Thank you.
Welcome to Steadfast Baptist Church.
Thank you all so much for coming.
Last day of the Firebreathing Baptist Fellowship.
If you could find your seats, please.
And turn in your hymnals to song 194,
Since Jesus Came Into My Heart.
Song 194,
Since Jesus Came Into My Heart.
Song 194,
Since Jesus Came Into My Heart.
Song 194,
Since Jesus Came Into My Heart.
Song 194,
Since Jesus Came Into My Heart.
Song 194,
Since Jesus Came Into My Heart.
What a wonderful
change in my life
has been brought
since Jesus came into my heart.
I am blind
in my soul
for which one way it sought
since Jesus came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
The joy of my soul
like the sweet moon I draw.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Song 194 on the 2nd.
I have sneezed from my
wandering and going astray.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
And my sentence
for many are all my true
pain. Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
But the joy of my soul
like the sweet moon I draw.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
I am possessed
of a hope that is
steadfast and sure.
Since Jesus came into my heart.
In your dark clouds
of doubt now my path
will sure. Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
But the joy of my
soul like the sweet moon I draw.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
There's a light
in the valley of
death now for me.
Since Jesus came into my heart.
And the
gates of the city beyond
I can see.
Since Jesus came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
But the joy
of my soul like the sweet
moon I draw.
Since Jesus came into
my heart.
I shall go there to dwell
in that city I know.
Since Jesus came into
my heart.
And I'm happy, so happy
as onward I go.
Since Jesus came into
my heart.
Since Jesus came into
my heart.
Since Jesus came into
my heart.
But the joy of my soul
like the sweet billows roll.
Since Jesus
came into my heart.
Amen. Good singing.
Let's have a word of prayer.
Lord, thank you so much for this day and thank you so much for the great
conference that we've had so far. All the people that have been
edified. All the people that have been saved.
I pray that you would also bless this day that you feel
pastor Shelley with the Holy Spirit.
And you give us all ears to hear and in Jesus name we pray.
Amen.
Alright for our second song.
We'll go to song 102.
He hideth my soul.
Song 102.
He hideth my soul.
102.
He hideth my soul.
Oh
wonderful
Savior is Jesus
my Lord.
Oh
wonderful
Savior to me
He
hideth my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He
hideth my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
He
hideth my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He
hideth my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
He hideth
my soul
in the cleft
of the rock
where rivers
of pleasure
I see
Okay.
Alright, looks like 29 for
Saturday. Praise the Lord on that.
And then, was there any soul wanting
to report that wasn't already reported at one
of our conference nights?
Whether that be Thursday, Friday, or
Saturday, was there anything else
that needed to be reported for any reason?
Okay. Alright. Keep up the great work
on soul winning. And then also, if
you have never been scripturally baptized,
we have our baptistry ready every single
service. And we have change of clothes.
We have robes for ladies. We have
shorts and shirts for guys if they'd like that.
And we have towels and everything like that.
And we do our baptisms right after the service.
So, if you have not been scripturally
baptized, just flag down one of the ushers
as they're going down for the offering.
Or just grab their attention
now and let them know that you'd like to be
baptized after the service. And we'd
love to oblige you on that. On the right,
we have a list of our expecting ladies
as well as our prayer list. If you have any prayer
requests throughout the week, you can always
submit those to the church email.
And we'll try to add those in there.
We do have a note about online donations
and checks. Please, if you'd not
donate to Steadfast Baptist Church
online or write a
check to Steadfast Baptist Church as we're not able
to accommodate that at this
time. If you'd like to give a check, you can write it out to either
Pure Words Baptist Church or if you
go to the PureWordsBaptist.com, there is
an online portal there. And
hopefully we'll get those things resolved as soon as
possible. But I just want people to be aware.
On the back, we have the dessert potluck
which is tonight. So, I'm looking
forward to seeing you tonight. And we're going to have
you can't have a Baptist Fellowship
without a dessert potluck. You know, I mean, we're
Baptist, right? So, obviously we're
going to have some fellowship. Really excited
about that. Also, you have a Texas
chili cook-off. Emphasis on the word
Texas there. And you know, I'm
going to preach this doctrine until I'm
done pastoring, okay? And even beyond
then, even from the grave, I hope, that somehow
I preach this doctrine. But
you know, you want to have good doctrine
and good doctrine is only meat
in your food,
right? You want the strong meat of the word.
You don't want leaven, fillers,
extra, junk.
And some people looked at me and said,
oh, well, you know, I mean,
adding beans doesn't really change
anything. Well, tell that to the
NIV when it adds stuff into the Bible, right?
And yeah, there's
some verses in the NIV that are similar to the
King James. And I'm not going to quibble
over that. I'm quibbling about all the stuff they add, all the
junk and all the stuff they take away. In order
to add beans, you know what you have to do? You take meat
out and you add beans
in. So, the NIV, they take
God's word out and they
insert beans in, okay?
I haven't even started preaching yet, all right?
This is just the announcements, okay?
But November 13th, we also have
an Oklahoma Soul Winning Marathon.
It's there in the city. And
it's a great place to go soul winning. It's very
receptive. And so I'd really encourage you
if you're able to go out there.
And then also we have a baby
shower in honor of
Miss Nexus Cooper that's coming up October
30th. And her baby girl, Melody,
she's also registered on Amazon
if you'd like to purchase them a gift.
And you're welcome to bring a snack or dessert if you
like. Also, if you are able
to help with some extra volunteer church cleaning,
just please see my wife or message her
or text her on that. That would be
really beneficial to us at this time.
I think there was another announcement
I was going to make. Oh yeah, my wife had been
doing a Tuesday soul winning
time for the ladies. And she just
put that on hold just while
she was giving birth and everything like that.
But she's going to start it back up again
this Tuesday. So,
that is going back into effect. So, if you
ladies want to participate,
it is Tuesdays at 1030.
And so, if you're able
or willing, we'd love for you to participate
in that. I think that's pretty much all I
have for announcements this morning.
If you have some extra seats around
and you can kind of reposition
if someone's, you know, needing
or looking for a seat, that would be really beneficial.
Thank you so much.
We'll go to our third song for this morning.
412 Onward Christian
Soldiers.
Again,
that song, 412
Onward Christian Soldiers.
412
Onward Christian Soldiers.
112
Onward
Christian Soldiers
marching
as to war
with the cross
of Jesus
flowing on
before
Christ the Royal
Master
leads against the
world
forward into
battle
see his
banner go
Onward Christian
Soldiers
marching
as to war
with the cross
of Jesus
flowing on
before
at the
Satan's post
of glee
on them Christian
soldiers
on to victory
tells
foundation's river
at the
shout of praise
brothers
give your voices
loud your
anthem's praise
Onward Christian
Soldiers
marching as to
war
with the cross
of Jesus
flowing on
before
like the mighty
army
who's the church of
God
brothers we are
treading
where the saints have
come
we are not
divided
all one
body
one in
hope and doctrine
one in
charity
Onward
Christian Soldiers
marching as
to war
with the cross
of Jesus
flowing on
before
Onward
many people
join our happy
throng
thank with
hearts your voices
in the triumph
song
glory, love
and honor
unto Christ the
ages when
an angel sings
Onward
Christian Soldiers
marching as
to war
with the cross
of Jesus
flowing on
before
1 Samuel chapter 18
the Bible reads
it came to pass
when he had made an end of speaking unto
Saul that the soul of Jonathan was
knit with the soul of David and Jonathan
loved him as his own soul
Saul took him that day
and would let him go no more home
to his father's house
then Jonathan and David made a covenant
because he loved him as his own soul
and Jonathan stripped himself of the
robe that was upon him
and gave it to David and his garments
even to his sword and to his bow
and to his girdle
and David went out whithersoever
Saul sent him
and behaved himself wisely
and Saul set him over the men of war
and he was accepted in the sight of all the people
and also in the sight of Saul's servants
and it came to pass as they came
when David was returned from the slaughter
of the Philistine
that the women came out of all cities
of Israel
singing and dancing to meet King Saul
with tabrets, with joy
and with instruments of music
and the women answered one another
as they played and said
Saul hath slain his thousands
and David his ten thousands
and Saul was very wroth
and the saying displeased him
and he said
they have ascribed unto David ten thousands
and to me they have ascribed but thousands
and what can he have more but the kingdom
and Saul eyed David
from that day and forward
and it came to pass on the morrow
that the evil spirit from God
came upon Saul
and he prophesied in the midst of the house
and David played with his hand
as at other times
and there was a javelin in Saul's hand
and Saul cast the javelin
for he said I will smite David
even to the wall with it
and David avoided out of his presence twice
and Saul was afraid of David
because the Lord was with him
and was departed from Saul
therefore Saul removed him
from him and made him his captain
over a thousand and he went out
and came in before the people
and David behaved himself
wisely in all his ways
and the Lord was with him
wherefore when Saul saw that he behaved himself
very wisely he was afraid of him
but all Israel and Judah loved David
because he went out and came in before them
and Saul said to David
behold my elder daughter Mirab
her will I give thee to wife
only be thou valiant for me
and fight the Lord's battles
for Saul said let not mine hand be upon him
but let the hand of the Philistines
be upon him
and David said unto Saul
who am I and what is my life
or my father's family in Israel
that I should be son in law to the king
but it came to pass at the time when Mirab
Saul's daughter should have been given to David
that she was given unto Adriel
the mahalathite to wife
and Adriel's daughter loved David
and they told Saul and the thing pleased him
Saul said I will give him her
that she may be a snare to him
and that the hand of the Philistines
may be against him
wherefore Saul said to David
thou shalt this day be my son in law
and the one of the twain
and Saul commanded his servants
saying commune with David secretly
and say behold the king hath
the light in thee and all his servants love thee
now therefore be the king's
son in law
and Saul's servants spake those words
in the ears of David and David said
seemeth it to you a light thing to be a king's son in law
seeing that I am a poor man
and lightly esteemed
and the servants of Saul told him
saying on this manner spake David
and Saul said
thus shall ye say to David
the king desireth not any dowry
but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines
to be avenged of the king's enemies
but Saul thought to make
David fall by the hand of the Philistines
and when his servants told David
these words it pleased David well to be
the king's son in law and the days were
not expired wherefore
David arose and went he and his men
and slew of the Philistines
two hundred men and David brought their
foreskins and they gave them in full
tale to the king that he might be
the king's son in law
and Saul gave him Michal his daughter
and a wife and Saul saw
and knew that the Lord was with David
and that Michal Saul's daughter loved him
and Saul was yet the more afraid
of David and Saul became David's
enemy continually
then the princes of the Philistines went
forth then it came to pass after they
went forth that David behaved himself
more wisely than all the servants of Saul
so that his name was much
set by. Let's bow our heads for
a word of prayer. Father we thank you for
the morning service here at Steadfast
Baptist Church and for the conference this week
I pray that you fill Pastor Shelley with your spirit
and help him to preach his sermon boldly
give him clarity of mind and also
just help us to pay attention
so we can apply the lessons in this
sermon to our lives and walk out of here
better Christians. In Jesus name I pray
Amen. Man
I want to first say the conference has gone
really great. It's really exceeded all my
expectations. I feel like
all the pastors that came preach really
good sermons and they complimented
our church to me in a lot of ways
they said they were really impressed
with our church members and our staff
and look a lot of people
go into the work of a conference as
far as all of our ushers and our volunteers
and you know Dylan chips in every once
in a while and so you know it's really
important that you know a lot
of people come together and so I really appreciate
our church family and everybody for
participating and helping with this conference
it's been a big blessing to me as
well as I hope to a lot of you guys and so
I appreciate you coming this
morning as well. I'm excited to preach
today and I want to start here
in verse number 8 where the Bible reads
And Saul was very wroth
and the saying displeased him
and he said, They have ascribed
unto David ten thousands and to me
they have ascribed but thousands
and what can he have more but the
kingdom? And Saul eyed David
from that day and ford
that came to pass on the morrow that the evil
spirit from God came upon Saul
and he prophesied in the midst of the house
and David played with his hand
as at other times there was a
javelin in Saul's hand and
Saul cast the javelin where he said
I will smite David even to the
wall with it and David avoided
out of his presence twice.
Now we have an interesting story here
where we have King Saul and we have
the young David he's not king yet
but we know him as King David
later in the future but at this point
he's just Saul's armor bearer or
he's the guy that plays the music for Saul
he's just his servant in general
and we see that Saul
is very envious of David
in this story and he ends up persecuting
David and attacking
David and it causes
such a big rift
to the point where eventually David
is going to have to flee from Saul
David is going to have to separate himself
from Saul and so the title
of my sermon this morning is this stay away from
Saul stay away from
Saul and I have three points this morning of
why there could be a certain individual in your life
that you have to stay away from
even if it's King Saul
now let's make it clear
King Saul is not just a bad guy
you know King Saul is the king of
Israel King Saul
has defeated the Philistines
King Saul is the Lord's anointed
King Saul was described as being humble in his own sight
the Bible describes the
spirit of God coming upon King Saul
and King Saul doing all kinds of great things
for the Lord and what a lot of
people do is they try to
oversimplify a person
they just say this person's bad
or this person's good
but reality is that there's many
people that you can't just say they're bad
or they're good
obviously in comparison to Christ we're just all bad
there's none that do with good no not one
so you're never going to find someone that's always good
you're going to always have some level
of bad to every single person
we're all human and
a lot of people in the Bible are a mixed bag
they do some good they do some bad
they have some problems
they do some great things it's kind of just a mix
of all manner
of situations but when it comes
to King Saul you can get to a
point where someone even though they're saved
even though they've done great things for the Lord in the past
you just have to stay away from
them because they become a dangerous person
and look when your boss is throwing
a javelin at your head
it's kind of a dangerous work environment
you know I mean not only was
it one time it wasn't just like oops
I mean it happened twice didn't it
at that point you start to say
like there's something weird going on
you know I'm not sure
what kind of training this is Miyagi
but I feel like
this is getting dangerous here right
but what's interesting about David is
he continually loves Saul
his entire life and
you have to understand this just because you stay away
from someone just because you point
out someone's error just because
you have to mark someone and say stay
away from this guy doesn't mean
that you don't love them it doesn't mean
that you don't want good for them it's just
you've identified this person as being dangerous
so you just need to stay away from
them during that current
timeline okay look at verse 22
let's see some more persecution that comes
from Saul verse 22 and Saul
commanded his servants saying commune with David secretly
and say behold the king
hath the light in thee and all his servants
love thee now therefore be the king's son
and law so Saul concocts
this plan he's trying to destroy
David the whole story as we
as we move on all of his attempts
all of his plans all of his ideas are to destroy
David and he's telling his
secret his servants secretly
hey why don't you try to get David to be
my son-in-law but it's not that he
really wants him to be his son-in-law
all he wants to do is try to kill him through the
hands of the Philistines that's the whole goal
so he's going to ask for a hundred foreskins of the
Philistines as a dowry
as a payment which what dude wants
that okay
whenever a dude asks you for a hundred foreskins
he should already decide to stay away
okay that
was bizarre alright but he wants a hundred
foreskins of the Philistines
to become basically have David
become his son-in-law not that he really wants
him as a son-in-law and a lot of times
what enemies will do is they'll try
to draw you in closer to destroy you
they'll try to get more information
about you they'll try to
befriend you they'll try to pretend
that they like you just so as
to get more information more resources
or have a closer
chance to end up stabbing you in the back
okay because it's hard to stab
someone in the back when you're maintaining
social distance okay
whenever you got COVID going on you got to get
in a close proximity build
that trust where they never see it coming
or entice them with a gift
you know as we have stories
like that in the Bible of Ehud
look at verse 25 the Bible says
Saul said thus shall you say to David
the king desireth not any dowry
but a hundred foreskins of the Philistines
to be avenged of the kings enemies
but Saul thought to make David fall
by the hand of the Philistines
so notice the Bible is making it clear that
Saul is continually
persecuting David he's throwing
javelins at him over and over
then he's trying to put
him in battles put him in wars
by himself or in a dangerous
situation so as to seek the hurt
of David so as to hope that
David will fall by the
enemies of the Lord essentially
throwing him to the wolves throwing him
in bad situations
putting wolves in his path to try and
hurt him and basically
destroy him and
when you start seeing the attacks
on the wrong type of people that's
persecution okay
it's persecuting the wrong people Saul is
persecuting the wrong people why isn't he attacking
the Philistines why isn't
Saul attacking the right people why
is he attacking David you know you have to ask
yourself what's the motive of this person
you know what let me give you an application of this
I feel like a lot of old IFB
churches are doing the same thing
where they're attacking
David they're persecuting David
and why well they've been
ascribed thousands but David's been ascribed
ten thousands
and they're envious of that they don't
like that it's not that they really care
about killing Philistines because if you cared
about killing Philistines you'd be on David's team
he'd be like I'm so glad David
is on my team here I'm so
glad that David's doing great things for the Lord
but the reason why Saul
doesn't like David is because Saul has to be
at the top Saul needs the glory
Saul wants to have the
women singing about him he
becomes very envious of David and
because of his envy he ends up
persecuting the wrong person attacking
the wrong person and
you know it seems like old IFB
churches will have someone walk into their church
who just got
saved or now is baptized
they want to go fight they
want to go do soul winning and then they
immediately start getting attacked for being
in that church and you would
think like why in the world would a
church persecute a
saved soul winner that just showed up and
wants to institute soul winning you know why
it's because the pastor doesn't want to look
bad by the church
member that's doing more soul winning than him
he doesn't want to look bad at
a random church member coming in saying
I want to start the soul winning program
you know and it's like why was the pastor
not wanting to start the soul winning program
you know instead of just being humble
and saying hey this guy's a great
asset to our church now this guy's
going to do great things for us now
they start persecuting them and
they start attacking them oh you're bringing in
false doctrines or oh you're bringing in
you know new ideas or you're trying
to hurt our church or you're attacking
our church or whatever and it's like look
you can't be attacked with the truth
it's like oh you're attacking us by bringing in
real doctrine you know by
actually bringing in the correct doctrine
of the Bible by emphasizing biblical
doctrines and instead of explaining to you
why it's wrong they just say oh you're attacking
get out of here you Andersonite
you cult leader you're you're hurting
us and it's like the person's intention
was just to get into a good church
they're just sitting here thinking like I just want to serve God
hey I want to go to a church where someone
cares about the Bible here right
but they just have to attack them
and they get mad at them
because they emphasize soul winning
instead of emphasizing follow up
and I'm telling you it's
frustrating and sometimes you
have to realize okay if you're going to
persecute me for doing that which is right
I might just need to stay away from you
I might just have to distance
myself from you not that you're a bad person
in general not that you're
you know just a wicked reprobate or something
not that you're some kind of an infiltrator
but you know what if you're going to persecute
me for doing that which is right
then I might need to distance myself from you
you know that's why whenever I asked
a week ago how many people moved
for our church it was like 70 or 80%
of our church and you
say why because they couldn't find a good church
in their area because they couldn't
find a church where someone was going to teach them how to go
soul winning and look you know the only reason
I feel like I'm even a pastor is because of that
you know whenever I
started learning about soul winning and reading my
Bible zealously and learning a lot of doctrines
I was just like I just want to go to church
where I can learn how to go soul winning
you know I just want to get plugged in and join the program
and start doing it and then I started realizing how hard
that is to find
and I was like why is no one doing that
why does nobody care what the Bible has to say
why is nobody and I started thinking
like if I'm having this problem
other people are probably having the same problem
there's probably other people
in this world in this country
across you know the globe
and it's a globe my friend
that want
okay they want someone
to help them go soul winning
because what could be more important than pulling
people out of the fire what could be more important
than saving people from hell
you know it's interesting churches don't preach on hell
that much anymore but if you did
you might inspire someone to actually preach the gospel
every once in a while
you know we need to get up and preach the truths
of the Bible to motivate God's people
through the most important work ever
which is preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ
and look it's not a one man show
it's a participation sport
the whole church is supposed to participate in that
every single one of God's people
is supposed to be doing that and you know it's really
hard to do it when the leadership is not
doing it
but I'm telling you I'm being honest with you
when you're hanging around Saul
sometimes you might get the javelin stuck
through you that's why it's important
to identify the Sauls in your life and say
you know what I need to find a church
or I need to find an area where Saul's not
actively trying to kill me or Saul's not
you know trying to impede
my service for the Lord
go to 1 Samuel 19 just you might be
there on the page or flip the page look at verse 1
and Saul spake to Jonathan his son
and to all his servants that they should kill
David
now as we read through this story and I've
preached through 1 Samuel but it's really clear
when you study all these chapters that
there's not a stopping point for
Saul okay
now at this point can't you
already see something a pattern
number 1 why
would you stay away from Saul because of the
persecution but number 2 because
there's a pattern there's a pattern of
persecution this isn't an isolated
event this isn't a one time
thing he's showing dedication
to destroy David he's showing that
he has an ax to grind
against David and so it's important
that you know you identify
these patterns okay
and not only that he's talking crap on
David privately isn't he
he's going around trying to hire
people to hurt David privately he's going around
publicly it's like oh David's so great
but in private he's like oh yeah kill David
hey I don't like David
and you know what that's a bad person
a bad person
talks positively about someone in public
but in private they're constantly
tearing them down they're constantly saying
evil about them behind their back
you know if you see that inconsistency
you need to be aware of that person
because they're not going to just be inconsistent
with David they're going to be consistent
with a lot of people so it's really
important that people are always consistent
and how they feel about others publicly
and privately you know and I don't
I don't want to go around and tell
all my church members one thing about somebody
and then publicly say oh I love
them I love Pastor
Shelley but then privately like I hate
Pastor Shelley hey I don't like this
guy he's a jerk he's a loser or whatever
you know that's that's not right
there's something wrong with that person's
heart look at verse 8
look he already avoided twice
he already was
seeking to kill him through the hands of the Philistines
didn't work out David got 200
force hands he's like you want 100 here's 200 buddy
then on top of that he's
telling his servants to kill him
didn't work then he goes out and kills even more
Philistines you know what
doing great exploits for the Lord
has now changed Saul's heart instead of
him being excited that he kills the Philistines
he's mad at David
evil spirit comes upon him he wants to hurt
him he wants to kill so he has to throw
another javelin it's become
a pattern at this point right
and I mean it just goes on and on I'm not
going to read every single part but it's just over and over
look at verse 11 Saul sent messengers
into David's house to watch him and a slave
in the morning and Michael David's wife told him
saying if thou save not thy life tonight
tomorrow thou shalt be slain
Michael let David down through a window and he went
and fled and escaped so what happened
he identified the persecution
he identified the pattern
and so he's going to stay away
from Saul and look this
is a biblical doctrine that there are
saved people that you have to stay away from
that you need to stay away from
it's important to stay away from them and look
when someone's trying to kill you physically it's a good
idea to stay away from them
I don't know if that's just
like illogical to some people but
you know it's funny how churches
will say all are welcome
it's like what
no the guy that's trying to kill me I don't want him
in my church
the guy that's openly admitting he wants my church destroyed
I don't want him in my church
the guy that's railing and slandering
and is a pattern of attack
a pattern of persecution
doing all manner of evil against God's people
yeah you say bye
you say stay away from us right now
we don't want you hanging around here
hurting God's people
look at verse number 18
Paul told Saul, saying, Behold David is at Nahoth and Ramoth
Saul sent messengers to take David
and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying
and Samuel standing
has appointed over them, the Spirit of God was upon the messengers
of Saul and they also prophesied
now this is where, again, the Bible
preaches reality
reality is confusing
he sends messengers
to kill David, but in the middle
of them going to kill him, they just end up preaching
and they're preaching the word of God
in fact
he himself, after being
unsuccessful in sending his preachers
against David, look what he does
himself, verse 23
now here's another tip
if your preachers start stripping off his clothes, stay away as well
okay
but look
he's preaching the word of God
and so this is what's confusing to people
is they'll look at somebody who
who preaches something good one time
and they think, well I can't stay away from him
he preached a good sermon
or he did something good, yet at the same time
he's trying to kill David all the while
and look, when it comes to the old IMB
it's not that they don't preach good sermons
every once in a while, it's not that
they're not right on lots of issues
it's not that the Spirit of God can't come upon them
and move them to do good works for the Lord
you know, even the churches that I was going to
I went to an independent Baptist church
back in my area, they didn't have soul winning
but occasionally, our preacher would just
go on a missions trip and just preach
the gospel for a few weeks
they didn't have it on a regular basis
but it's like, he just randomly goes out
preaches the gospel, and praise the Lord
I'm not mad
I don't want to attack somebody
that's preaching the gospel for any reason
but at the same time
you could identify, well, you know what
even though Saul's doing some good things
even though Saul is right
in some issues, even though Saul, I like
Saul in some areas
he's just too dangerous for me to be around
he's already shown a pattern
of persecuting the wrong people
and because of that, I still need to stay away from him
it's not like David heard about this
and said, oh, he preached?
well, let's go join back up
no, he kept his distance still, didn't he?
stayed away from Saul, as long as you know the story here
he doesn't come and join back up with him
now, for some people
it's really confusing, it's really hard
the person that it's really hard on is Jonathan
really hard on Saul's son
because he likes David
and he likes Saul
and he has a hard time believing that
Saul would ever hurt David
he just can't believe it
because he's related, because he's seen
the good things that Saul did
so it's just really difficult for Jonathan
but here's the thing
you need to stay away from Saul, Jonathan
spoiler alert
Jonathan dies with Saul in battle
now look at verse 3 of chapter 20
David swam all over and said
thy father certainly knoweth that I have found grace in thine eyes
and he saith, let not Jonathan know this
lest he be grieved, but truly as the Lord liveth
and as thy soul liveth
there is but a step
between me and death
so he's trying to tell Jonathan, he's talking with Jonathan
and he's saying look Jonathan
your dad's not going to tell you
because he knows that we're friends
your dad's not going to make it clear to you
that he wants to kill me
because otherwise
you may change your opinion about your dad
right?
and Saul doesn't want to lose Jonathan
he doesn't want to lose the favor and the blessing
and the friendship that he has with Jonathan
so he's just not telling him
plus he's more motivated to kill David
than being honest with his son
than being truthful with his son
and you know what, there's a lot of Jonathans in this world
that have a hard time realizing that there's a Saul out there
you know, you can point it all day long
you're like, look, he threw
three javelins at me
he's sending me out of all these battles to kill me
and Jonathan, it's just a bunch of coincidences
you know?
oh, I'm sure he didn't mean that
that's not what he really meant
and it's always that that's not what they meant
it's like, well what did you mean by throwing a javelin at me?
right?
I mean, you look at the javelins in the wall
and you're like, look at this, here's a javelin
you like, show Jonathan the holes in the wall
you're like, remember this hole?
what was the motivation there, buddy?
right?
but sometimes they just forget or they don't care
they're apathetic, they're not paying attention to all the warning signs
are they?
so they need someone to point it out to them
now, Jonathan has the right doctrine though
look at verse 13
so Jonathan realizes
hey, if Saul's trying to kill you
you're absolutely right
stay away from Saul
because the right doctrine
is to stay away from Saul
when you've identified the persecution
and the pattern
it's just, it's hard for Jonathan
to get the picture
go to 1st Thessalonians 21
and look at verse 1
chapter 21 verse 1
why art thou alone and no man with thee?
now David is continually
running away from Saul
but you can tell something's up
because when you separate from somebody
that you're best friends with
when you separate from somebody that you had a close relationship with
it's obvious, it becomes public
it's a public issue
and you know what, people get really uncomfortable
when you separate from someone
you know, when you used to be friends with Saul
and now you're not friends with Saul
everybody starts freaking out
people are like, what's going on?
and people don't like it
but you know what, I'm not here to preach this morning
to make you feel comfortable
I'm here to preach what's right
and to preach the Bible
and you know, sometimes I have to warn
against someone, even if it makes you feel uncomfortable
okay?
and look, I've called out a lot of people
show me the person that I've called out
that didn't just confirm everything I said about them later
right?
I mean, show me my error so far
okay, so give me a little bit of leeway here
give me a little bit of just
credence
and look, I could be wrong about someone
I could do something bad
but I'm telling you, if I think there's even a shred
of what I'm saying is not true
I try to shy away from it
I take a long time to identify people
or try to mark them
unless it's just a real egregious example
like Adam Fanon, you know
which you can figure out in a few days
but you know what?
right?
I mean, go join his church if you want
I'm fine with that, you know
get out of here
but at the end of the day, people don't like it
and you know, when I preached against Adam Fanon before I took over this church
people didn't like it
people are freaking out
they're like, who's this guy coming in here?
you know?
what's this about?
you know, other people that I've had to publicly mark
you know, whenever I just distanced myself from Manly Perry
a lot of people didn't like that
you have to be a raging heretic
and you know, people don't like it
they don't feel comfortable about it
but you know what? sometimes it needs to happen
sometimes you just have to call it out
you have to say what it is
and a lot of people have been thinking the same thing
look at verse 7
now, here's the thing
you have this pattern
and whenever you separate
there's going to be somebody that hears
that's a bad person
and they end up trying to cause a lot of problems
based on your separation
and that's doe egg
now I want to get a little application, I'm going to get my third point quickly
now I want to make a final application
but what do we think about the old FBE?
is there a pattern of them
persecuting the right things?
well, how about this?
how about all the Bible college institutions out there?
that's not just like a one time event
this is a pattern
of preaching false doctrine
of doing all manner of things that are not biblical
having all kinds of women
adding all kinds of junk
when it comes to the Bible version issues
you know, they have to get these titles
like Master of Divinity coming in
to the institution
they have no biblical precedent for it
they have no fruit to show from it
but they just have a pattern of it
and you know what? every time you go to your pastor
your old IBE pastor says I want to be trainer of ministry
Bible college
and you're like, I looked what came out
and I don't want that
I don't want pastor polka dot
you know? I don't want to become that
I'd rather be a trash man
for my whole life
and never be a pastor than be a pastor polka dot
what a shame
to be a queer, effeminate pastor
you know, we don't need any more weak pastors
we don't need any more
compromisers
we need some people to go just create a coffee club
we need some real men of God
to stand up
and to preach the Bible
and to read the Bible
and to quote the Bible
and to stand on the Bible
and not care what people think
and you know where you don't get that? Bible college
and you know what Bible college does?
is it destroys the zeal of young men
I don't see people walking into Bible college on fire
and coming out more on fire
it waters them down
and you know what? It's a pattern
you say, what's the pattern?
show me all the fruit then
show me all the great men that are coming out of Bible college
all of a sudden
you know, all the people I look up to didn't
graduate from Bible college
didn't come out from that kind of institution
the people that are leading the charge are not
the doctor of divinity
you know, I'm the master
you know, these guys are the compromisers
these are the guys not only
watering down their own church
but watering down all the other churches that affiliate with them
watering down all the other churches
that fill their Bible college up
and look, what's Bible college about?
let me tell you
money
you know how much I charge for people to learn the Bible at our church?
zero dollars
what kind of weirdo
is going to sit here and profit
off of teaching the Bible
and then say it's biblical
why am I going to pattern myself
after the world
look, Bible college
while we think of it as being different than regular college
you have to realize
Harvard University
you know what the whole purpose of Harvard University was?
to train men for the ministry
that's why it started
it's a Bible college
ok, and then look where it turned out
now their chaplain's an atheist
and look
you can say, oh but they did it wrong
no, it's just it's a bad
institution and it's going to eventually
fail, corrupt itself
they're only going to care about money
they just want to bring as many people in
that's why they don't preach hard on doctrine
that's why they don't name the names
because after you name the names
they stop sending their kids to your Bible college
when you name the name they don't show up to the
FBBF
and look, we need more space anyway
so hopefully I can get some of you out of here, alright?
you know
they only care about their attendance
that's the pattern I notice
all their efforts seem to be geared around attendance
rather than
the quality of the attendance
rather than people actually caring
and you know, if I got up
and preached half of the sermons that I preach
for this church, at one of those churches
it would look smaller than this one
because it's not real, it's fake
there's a lot of fluff there
and people look and they say, oh we got 500 on Sunday morning
yeah, but if you get up and preach all the unsafe people
out the building, now it's cut in half
if you preach all the fags
out the building, you're going to lose another quarter
of the population
and all the sympathizers with them
you start preaching against birth control
you'll lose all those people
you start preaching against divorce, you'll lose all those people
you start preaching against the modern versions, you'll lose all those people
and then you'll start looking at your church and saying
wow, there's not much left
I'd rather just preach
at all and just not worry
about losing people every single week
when you preach the Bible
but you know what, I hope I lose all the people
that aren't interested in hearing God's word
because I don't want to get into a pattern
where I come to church on Sunday morning
and I'm thinking like, oh no
I don't want to get fired for that sermon
I already got fired
you know, it didn't work
they fired me
they said I couldn't even talk to you guys
said I couldn't even show up
they didn't work
you know, because church isn't a building
church isn't a corporation
church isn't some legal document somewhere
you know what church is?
you and me
and wherever we are
that's where Steadfast Baptist Church is
you know, they can
sit here and take your money
they can take your name
they can take your corporation
they can take anything they want
but you know what, they can't take you and me soul
they can't take our freedom
they can't take the King James Bible
they can't take the doctrine out of our hands
and you know what, churches care more about the building
they care more about breaking attendance records
than preaching the word of God
but you know what, when you preach the word of God
you can have it all anyways
why don't they just do that?
you know, the Sunday morning
service for the FBBF
in 2019 we had 146
look around
I think we're going to break that attendance record
256
oops
I guess that's what happens when you preach the Bible
people actually like the Bible
and you know what, I'd rather be around
5 people that like the Bible than 5,000
that don't
welcome to the Steadfast Baptist Church
this morning, ok
go to 1 Samuel 22, I'm going to get my third point quickly
if I can finish
these points, because I have a lot more
I need to preach
verse 7
then Saul said unto his servants that stood by him
hear now you Benjamites
will the son of Jesse give every one of you fields and vineyards
and make you all captains of thousands and captains of hundreds
that ye have all conspired against me
and there is none that show up
that my son hath made a league
with the son of Jesse
and there is none of you that is sorry
for me
for a show of unto me that my son has stirred up my
servant against me
to lie in wait as at this day
that's how I read it
I don't know how you read it
he's trying to get people to feel bad for him
for what? he wants to kill David
what did David do?
but you know what?
that's what these sick people do
is they sit here and they try to get a bunch of sympathizers
to act like he's being attacked
when he's the attacker
he's acting like someone's being a predator against him
when he's the predator
and pay attention, this is a saved person
this is a person that had the spirit of God come upon them
this is a person that preached the word of God
look how deceptive he's being
look how malicious he's being
and look, just because someone's malicious
and a predator and attacking
doesn't make them unsaved
okay?
but sometimes it is
you just have to pay attention to other factors
but you point out someone's being a predator
being an attacker, and they'll be like, oh, you caught me unsaved?
well, that's for you to decide
but guess what? you're still attacking me
and because you're attacking me, I want to stay far away from you
look at verse 9
then answered Doeg the Edomite
which was said over the servants of Saul
and said, I saw the son of Jesse coming to Nob
the son of Ahithop
and he inquired of the Lord and gave him vittles
and gave them the sword of Goliath
the Philistine
so, notice, he falls for it
oh, I'll help you out, Saul
but he doesn't really care, he just wants his back scratched
just the same way, you know, he's just looking for promotion here
he's just a wicked person
verse 16, the king said
so then he basically inquires of Ahimelech
finds out that he helped David
even though he wasn't doing it on purpose
to attack Saul or anything, he just was trying to do right
but
King Saul wants to kill him now
verse 16, and the king said, thou shalt surely die Ahimelech
thou and all thy father's house
and the king said to the footman that stood about him
turn and slay the priests of the Lord
because their hand also is with David
and because they knew when he fled
and did not show it to me
the servants of the king did not put forth their hand
to fall upon the priests of the Lord
the king said to Doeg, turn now and fall upon the priests
and Doeg the Edomite turned and he fell upon the priests
and slew on that day four score and five persons
that did wear linen and ephod
and Knob the city of the priests, and Modi with the edge of the sword
both men and women, children and sucklings
and oxen and asses and sheep with the edge of the sword
now when Saul can't kill David
he just kills the next best thing
a whole bunch of other priests of God
and you know that's where you can tell the motivation of the individual
why are you killing priests of God here?
and notice
at least his men had enough fear of the Lord to say no
at least a lot of his soldiers
said like, whoa
why are we just killing
other men of God here?
why are we just attacking other men of God
for David?
this is weird
but Doeg has no problem
so he just sicks Doeg on these people
and Doeg, he kills not just them
their family
why? because he's a sadistic, evil reprobate
and you know what, these people have no
conscience
they'll just hurt as many people
as soon as they get the okay from Saul
just attack
everything to hurt God's people
and it's sick
and this is the third reason why you stay away from Saul
is because of his pals
number one is persecution, number two is pattern
but third is pals
when you're pals with Doeg, stay away from that guy
I don't want to be your buddy
when you're buddies with Doeg
and everybody will get up and say
you don't want to be my friend because of my friends?
yes
why is that a weird doctrine?
you know
when you go to the Cowboys game wearing an Eagles jersey
good luck
when you go to the Eagles game wearing a Cowboys jersey
good luck
you're going to get roughed up
and you can't be friends with everyone
my friend
it's so stupid
and look, if you're going to literally be pals, be buddies
with my sworn enemy
I'm not going to be your friend
I can't be your friend while you're teaming up
and partnering and palling up
with people that are my sworn enemy
there's no sense
no normal person would ever believe that
and of course, Saul
he lets Doeg do the dirty work
so he keeps his hands clean
and again, this always confuses people
because they're like, well he didn't do it, Doeg did it
yeah, at the behest of Saul
because Saul wanted him to
because Saul encouraged him to do it
look at chapter 28
go to chapter 28, here's another pal
that you should notice
from Saul and say, wow, I need to stay away from Saul
okay, he's got some bad pals
1 Samuel 28 verse 6
so literally, Saul just stops hearing from God
he was preaching good sermons
but it got to a point where it was so bad
he can't even preach good sermons anymore
he can't even hear the word of God
he reads the Bible and it's just nothing
only carnal application
just nothing spiritual anymore
the Spirit's not flowing
he's not hearing the Lord
he's too far away from the Lord
he's become the enemy of the Lord
he's the enemy of David
and when you do that, God might shut you off
the Holy Spirit may be too grieved
to communicate with you the same way he did in the past
that's why it's important to be filled with the Spirit
hey, when you're filled with the Spirit
he's not going to talk anymore
when you grieve the Holy Spirit of God
he's not going to be communicating in the same manner
and you know what, when the Spirit of God would come upon
prophets in the Old Testament
they were gifted with the ability to commune with God
but you know what, when they drew away from the Lord
when they got away from his presence
when they're doing that which is wrong
God could take the Spirit away from them
and now they're not hearing from God the same way
and you say, why?
now he's inquiring of a witch
what's another application?
they're constantly bringing in guest preachers
that literally will preach a repent of your sins false gospel
and yet they just get up there
this is my buddy, he's so great
they'll literally have Sam Gipp come in
inquire of the witch
you know, have him come in here
and teach them a whole bunch of weird junk
a bunch of weird false doctrine
and not care
why? because the Spirit of the Lord departed from them
and look, I've been in churches like this
and they'll say, I'm not qualified to preach on the rapture timing
I've got to bring in a specialist
so then they bring in the Sam Gipps
then they bring in the witch at Endor
they bring in whoever to come and teach
I'm not qualified to preach on the King James Bible
so we'll bring in Gail Riplinger
why is there not a man in the house
that can get up and tell you why you should use the King James Bible
you need Gail Riplinger to teach you how to use the King James Bible
I mean, this is bizarre, my friend
why? because they stopped hearing from the Spirit of God
all they do is read commentaries
they stopped reading their Bible
they stopped going soul winning
they're now a forgetful hearer of the word
because they're not a doer of the work
and look, when you're not a doer of the work
the Spirit of God is not going to work in your life the same way
that's why it's important to be filled with the Spirit
you say, man, my life's been going to shreds
well, have you been going soul winning?
I never hear from God
are you going soul winning? are you reading your Bible?
are you doing the work of the Lord?
because when you're a forgetful hearer
he stops talking
he stops communing with you in the same way
you forget things
look, there's plenty of people
that have learned all kinds of doctrines
and then they don't use them, they don't exercise
and you forget them
you forget why you were going to church
you forget why soul winning was so important to you
look, I've seen so many people
they're like the most zealous person I've ever met in my life
and then a year later, they're just so apathetic
who are you?
what happened?
they weren't doing the work, and they forgot the whole reason why they did in the first place
they forgot who they were
they forgot their identity
now when it comes to hard preaching
if it's going to be hard, it's got to be biblical
it's got to be corrective
but here's a really important point, it's got to be specific
and you know, I don't like vague book preaching
and what I call vague book preaching
is where you're kind of preaching about someone or something
but instead of just naming the name
you just kind of stay in this safe land
of like, well there's just these people out there
that do these things
you know, this group
or whatever
and look, occasionally you do that
obviously sometimes you can't think of an example off the top of your head
so you may just have to allude to generic examples
but you know, real hard preaching is when you actually use someone's name
you know, and in the Bible it's full of names
even though we've never met
I've never met Doeg the Edomite
you've never met Doeg the Edomite
if you have, you should leave, okay
I've gotten my speed dial
notice God is not afraid of using names
the Bible's full of names
in fact, some chapters are just names
if you've ever read it
you're like, oh, it's the name chapter again
you know what you should do the next time you come to a name chapter
be reminded that it's important to name the name
because God likes the name of the name
He names the name of the false prophets
He names the name of the infiltrators
He names the name of the Judases
but you know what, not just all the really bad people
He also names the Christians that are mixed up too
you know, there's a lot of Christians
that get screwed up
go if you would to Galatians chapter 2 for a moment
2 Timothy chapter 4
this is what Paul said, for Demas
hath forsaken me, having loved this present world
and is a part of the Thessalonica
how would you like it to be publicly named
for all of eternity as the backsliding Christian
as the guy that gave up
right?
Hey, there was this guy in our church
and he left
it's not that, Demas was in our church
and Demas left
think about that, that's the literal
the apostle Paul communicating
a person's name, he's attaching backsliding
Christianity with a person
I don't like that
well, read the Bible
that's what he did
he said, Cretans of Galatia tied us into Dalmatia
only Luke is with me
you know, that's sad reality
but over time
the names and the faces just keep changing
so Luke is with you
only a few people are with you
Galatians chapter 2 verse 11
but when Peter was come to Antioch
I withstood him to the face
because he was to be blamed
for behold, that certain came from James
that he did eat with the Gentiles
but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself
fearing them, which were the circumcision
and the other Jews assembled likewise with them
and so much that Barnabas also was carried away
with their dissimulation
now is Peter a good guy?
does he get publicly called out?
just because someone gets publicly called out
doesn't even mean they're not Peter
doesn't even mean they're a bad person
in general, Peter's a good guy
you know what, Peter made a big mistake
and his mistake was a public mistake
and here's the problem
you can't fix public mistakes privately
if Paul had gone to Peter
privately and said, hey Peter
don't do that
it wouldn't have fixed the problem because notice Barnabas
got carried away, didn't he?
so now Barnabas has to get involved
and all the other people saw
and all the other Jews noticed
and all the other Gentiles noticed
so then guess what has to happen?
Peter, you're to blame
you can't do that
you're corrupting the gospel here
you're teaching some bad doctrine here
you're drawing people away from the faith here
and look, when you have a public ministry
you're going to be publicly criticized
if you make a mistake
and that's the right thing
and people get all mad, they're like
why didn't you call me and fix it?
and it's like, because it wasn't a private issue
it's a public issue
you have to address it publicly
go to 1 Corinthians, oh you don't have to go there
yeah, go to 1 Corinthians 5
I'll just read another place, Acts 15
now here's another person
Paul is looking at him and saying
I'm not going to work with you
I'm going to stay away from you
because you've already failed
you've already shown yourself to be a quitter
and because of that, I'm not working with you
now does that mean that John Mark wasn't saved?
no
but it means that John Mark had some serious issues
he needed to work out in his life
Demas had some serious issues
Peter had a serious issue that needed to be addressed
and look, even in church you're going to have people
that have to get publicly marked
look at verse 11
but now I have written unto you
not to keep company
if any man that is called, notice this
a brother
be a fornicator, a covetous, an idolater, a railer
a drunkard, an extortioner, with such and one know not to eat
what have I to do to judge them
also that are without, do not you judge them that are within?
but them that are without, God judgeth
therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person
notice the Bible is calling a saved person
a wicked person
calling a saved person, hey this guy
this guy has problems, this guy has issues
you need to separate from them
until they fix that issue
okay
I feel like I've made the case, if you don't believe me at this point
I'm not going to convince you
but there's going to be a time when you have to call out
someone who's saved
done good things for the Lord in the past
that you may even like
because they've caused too many problems in that publicly
okay, so it shouldn't matter who I name
if all of that's true
if all of what I've taught
if all of what I've taught is true and it applies
it doesn't matter who I name
but here's my application that I want to make
and this is one of many
because I've already made a lot of applications
but here's a very specific application I'm going to make this morning
and that is Pastor Tommy McMurtry of Liberty Baptist Church
he's going to follow this pattern
and this persecution
and the pals that I've already labeled
okay
now, what was point one
of why you would stay away from Saul?
because of persecution
Pastor Tommy McMurtry and his wife
have gone on Facebook and said all kinds
of weird junk about me personally
I've seen it
I preached a sermon called Loud and Stubborn Women
and then on Tim DeLello's Facebook page
they're all sitting here mocking me
mocking my sermon, mocking the word of God even
so much as to say
oh, I don't know why
jail didn't listen to Pastor Shelley's sermon
you know, about how women
aren't supposed to grab men by the secrets
I wish she had learned that instead of, you know
actually rising up and slaying
and I'm like, that's not even the same application
they start making fun of
God's laws
making fun of my sermon publicly
not only that
Pastor McMurtry and stick
where you are in 1 Corinthians chapter 5
you're still there, right?
he has a bad definition of the word rail
and because of his bad definition of rail
he constantly falsely
accuses the new IFB of being railers
his definition of
rail is to speak against someone
or to say
negative things about someone
or to attack someone verbally
but wait a minute, isn't it right here in verse 11
that if someone's a railer
you're not even supposed to have fellowship with them at all?
that's a serious accusation
to call someone a railer
and by making that type of
definition for the word rail
you know you're calling a railer? Jesus
because
a railing is a very specific accusation
notice this list
fornicator, covetous
idolater, drunkard or extortioner
now, riddle me this
which of those sins is
okay in moderation?
which of those sins is okay
in any situation?
well, it's just a little bit of fornication
he just is an idolater occasionally
he just extorts
some people
there's never a time when
that's okay or contextually
driven, but then he wants to make the word
railer contextually driven
but it's not contextually driven, it's always
a false accusation
now I'm not going to prove that again because I preach
those sermons, but I want to show you a few verses
go to Luke 23 for a moment
go to Luke chapter 23
now, the reason why people make this mistake
is because if you look in a dictionary today
most of them don't contain a
biblical definition for the word rail
and I get that, but you know that's pretty lazy
scholarship when you just let the dictionary
tell you what everything means
because the word repent is also
usually not accurate in a dictionary
according to the Bible
but the word rail in a dictionary, this is what it says
to revile or scold in
harsh, insolent or abusive language
scold or upbraid
okay? now
look at Luke 23 verse 39
and one of the malefactors which hanged railed on him
saying, if thou be Christ
save thyself and us
now, here's the thing
what they're saying about Christ is not true
because they're saying
if you're really Christ, you wouldn't die on the cross
wait a minute
that's the whole reason why he is the Christ
is because he is going to die on the cross
so they're trying to make a
lying slander against him
they're saying, oh, if you die
if you don't get off the cross, if you don't save yourself
and us, then you're not really the Christ
they're lying about him, they're slandering him
okay? it's not just speaking negatively
about them, go to Mark 16
let me show you another verse here
and then where do you draw the line?
and shouldn't we have really clear lines
when it comes to church discipline?
I mean, I don't want to have this vague
well, it's Pastor Shelley's opinion that you railed
no, I want it to be crystal clear
I want us to all to be able to agree
I want us to all say, you know what, this was a lie
this is a clearly proven slander
therefore the person is a provable
railer, so we're going to move them from the church
not just like, well that seemed a little mean
that didn't seem very nice
because you know what, Jesus doesn't seem very nice
to a lot of people in the Bible
calling him, I don't know, like children of the devil
how can he escape the damnation of hell?
I mean, those aren't really nice
comments to be made
look what it says in Mark 16, verse 14
Jesus upbraided his own disciples
so are you now going to say that Jesus is a railer?
that would be a wicked false accusation
against Jesus
look, we have to have the proper definition
but by having this bad definition
then he's just constantly accused of the new IFB
of being a bunch of railers
which is a serious accusation
how would you feel if I go around calling everybody a fornicator
or an idolater, or an extortioner
because I come up with my own definitions
because I come up with a bad definition
look, this is something to beware of
and you know what it ends up doing?
it ends up weakening what rail really means
and it causes where people don't take it as seriously
because they say, oh, well you talk negatively about somebody
so it's okay if I lie about you
no, no, no, no, no, those are way different
me criticizing you for being a terrible person
is way different than you lying about me
these are infinitely different
because you know what, the Bible constantly tells me
I'm a terrible person
and none of it's railing
you know, we're all
for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God
you know, the Bible's constantly correcting us
and look, you can't be attacked with the truth
it could be maybe insensitive
it could be harsh
you know what, it's only beneficial when someone tells you the truth
and it's only negative when someone lies to you
that's why it's harmful to have railers in your church
but he's constantly talking trash on the new IFB
calling them bozos, railers, inbred, freaks
how would you feel if someone's sitting in the room
just calling you all a bunch of inbred freaks
and bozos and weirdos
and you know, when you call him out on this
he's like, oh, I'm talking about the ones that
you know, are online or something
and I'm like, well, my church members are online
yeah, but I'm talking about the ones that are online
that don't, you know, go to your church
will they move to my church?
well, I'm talking to one of these like
look, I've literally seen him correct
my church members that are sitting in this room right now
and then he goes on all these new IFB bozos
and these young new IFB punks
and all these wannabe pastor punks
and he just makes comment after comment
after comment after comment after comment
where it becomes, wow, you must hate the new IFB, buddy
and you know what, I love the people in this room
you know, I don't care what label you give it
you know, I'm fine with the new IFB label
but you know what, I don't want to sit here
and just mal-align a whole bunch of people
that are trying to do the works of the Lord
they're doing some of the greatest soul winning
it doesn't make any sense
go to Ecclesiastes 7 for a moment
go to Ecclesiastes 7
and look, this, anybody that's paid attention to anything
or listened to this guy preach for a while
they could honestly admit
I've heard him speak a lot of crap on the new IFB
he even made a recent video with his wife
explaining why he's not new IFB
and he doesn't like that terminology
and he doesn't want to be associated with the new IFB
whatsoever
and he doesn't like people giving that label
because he's saying, oh, well then people
will harass me for every sermon that I preach
that's different than the new IFB
that's interesting
because you know what, me and my friends
that are in the new IFB differ on a lot of stuff
and I've never noticed anybody
harassing and attacking me constantly
for it
you know, where are these vague accusations
even coming from?
but look
I don't think it's okay
to just go around and attack people
or call them out just for every little
minor disagreement
you know, I'm not that type of person
and anybody that knows me knows
I tried my best to just move on
not care, and really in life
you should not call people out
for every minor transgression
the Bible teaches this
look at Ecclesiastes 7 verse 20
read unto all words that are spoken
lest thou hear thy servant curse thee
for oftentimes also thine own heart knoweth
that thou thyself likewise has cursed others
so the Bible's teaching
just because someone runs their mouth one time
don't just go after them
you know, and look
I've even heard people in this room
say stupid stuff every once in a while
or say things that I'm like, wow, you shouldn't have said that
or I don't like that, but I'm like, who cares
because if I'm going to sit here
if a boss wants to hear every idle word
that their employees speak, it's going to be bad
and if I hear every idle word my church members speak
I'd probably feel bad about them
you know, but you have to realize
none of us are perfect, we all make mistakes
every once in a while, we all run our mouth every once in a while
but you know what, when it's every single
video that you make
when it's like almost every other sermon
it changes from being a one time event
to a pattern
and when you're being persecuted in a pattern
something's changed
you're going to stay away from this type of person
now
here's something that's real serious
now my friend
Pastor Aaron Thompson and I
have known each other for a while
and we communicate on a regular basis
and he was dealing with an issue where he had two church members
that were kind of causing him problems
he'd asked me to go preach in Hawaii
and so I'm asking about Hawaii
and he's got an evangelist there called Ryan Gallagher
okay, and Ryan Gallagher
has caused him a lot of problems
a few months ago or a couple months ago
Ryan Gallagher and another evangelist
Chad Argonne
start making attack videos
against Pastor Thompson
well simultaneously
Tommy Murtrie's making a video about it
and he's bringing up all kinds of the same
information and the same things
not only in this video is he bringing up
all kinds of weird stuff, and look that's a fight
between them too, but when I watched the video
it really disgusted me
because of some of the things that
Pastor Murtrie had said
he said he was making a video against Pastor Thompson
and this is a public video he made
and he said it's because he brought up his wife
and he said that's the ultimate coward move
to bring up his wife
even though Jesus brings up women in the Bible
so I don't know if that's making Jesus a coward
does that make Paul a coward?
I'm pretty sure the qualifications for a bishop
brings up the wife and the kids
so I guess it's fair game
if it needs to be called out, right?
but in this video
he literally says going after the family of pastors
is about as scummy as you get
you don't get much lower than that
so in his opinion, which I think you get
way lower than that, like maybe I don't know
stealing all your bank accounts
I mean there's a lot of other things you could do, okay
but he's saying the scummiest thing you could do
is go after a pastor's family, this is the next statement
he says, the next breath, now I have to do this
what?
he literally said the worst thing
you could ever do is go after a pastor's family
and then he says I'm going to do that
and then he brings up pastor Thompson's son
and says he has all this dirt on
pastor Thompson's son that he's not going to release
unless
pastor Thompson says more
he says
and he said this, I sent him that information
and he says, pastor Thompson
knowing that I have this, I think it scared him
and I think it freaked him out
now let me explain to you what that is
it's called extortion
when you say you have dirt on someone
and you say, hey
I'm going to keep this dirt private
unless you say something, otherwise
I'm going to release it, that is textbook
extortion, my friend
and you know it's interesting, the word extortion is found on a list
in 1 Corinthians chapter number 5
isn't it?
so he wants to constantly call people liars and railers
but then he literally
is performing extortion
I was just like
my jaw just dropped
and I was just like wow
but you know what, that was between them
even though I saw that a few months ago, I just left it alone
because that's their fight
that's their issue, ok
that's something that they have to deal with
not necessarily something I have to deal with
but you know what, it starts changing
when all the information that
pastor McMurtry is using
against pastor Thompson is coming from a particular person
named Ryan Gallagher
and then all of a sudden
Ryan Gallagher
out of nowhere
just starts attacking my church
I have nothing to do with this individual
nothing
ok, now
I'm getting a little ahead of myself
I want to make one more point and then I'm going to bring that back up
ok
but here's another thing, because we're talking about pattern
number 1, he's persecuting the wrong person
why would you persecute pastor Thompson
why are you persecuting the new IAB in general
why are you persecuting all these young guys that want to be pastors
I feel like we need more of them
not less of them
and it's a real big pattern
ok, public videos
using extortion
not only that
he preached a sermon recently called
The False Gospel of Many Soul Winners
and in this sermon
he said that a lot of soul winners
are doing penance
by soul winning
now what is penance, kind of a catholic term
I don't use it, but if you just look up the definition
penance is a devotion performed to show sorrow
or penance or sin
basically you screw up, you do something wrong
and you try to make it right
by doing some good work
that doesn't sound that bad
you know, if I screw up, I'm thinking
yeah, I probably should go back to church
or read my bible
you know, we could argue about the methods in which catholics do
penance, right
by confessing their sins to a priest, I'm not going to do that
paying indulgences
not going to do that
but you know what, what did God, God's people would show some penance
because that's where they screw up
and you know, if one of those is by going soul winning
praise the Lord
because I'm not going to sit here and say like
why are you going soul winning this afternoon
did you do something bad this week
because if you did something bad this week
you need to get out of here
that's silly
you know, praise the Lord someone is preaching the gospel
the last thing I want to do is put a wet blanket
on soul winning
this is what he said in his sermon
I'm just giving you direct quotes
every time you justify sin
because of a work of soul winning you're preaching a false gospel
but what person
have you ever heard anybody in the new act of peace say
you know what, it's okay if I sin a little bit
because I'm a soul winner
what person has ever taught that
what person has never believed that
he said this, people are making soul winning look bad
by the fact that you sin
okay
number three statement, I'm sick of listening to people
justify wicked
sometimes criminal behavior
because someone is a soul winner
now I'd love to know who that's about
oh wait I do
about Pastor Thompson
for that same reason
he literally got the bank statements
of their church from Ryan Gallagher
and has created some narrative in his head
where he thinks Pastor Thompson
has done something illegal when he hasn't
and then he says that all of us
are justifying criminals because
they're a soul winner
he didn't say his name
I'm sorry that I have a brain in my head
and I can tell what's happening
and you Jonathan over here
is saying like, well I don't know
he said this, many people
are preaching a false gospel with their life
they have a great gospel with their mouth
but because they have the ability to memorize
but their life is telling something
completely different
now I want to know who in here is not sinned
this week
well you better not preach the gospel
because you're preaching a false gospel now
what kind of a
wicked statement is that
what kind of a weird sermon is someone
going to get up and preach that if you're sinning
you're preaching a false gospel
I thought salvation was by grace, not of works anyways
some of you make the gospel look great
by your sinful lifestyle, okay
the woman at the well got people saved
because she was such a whore
she's like hey this guy
knew I was a whore
he told me all I ever did
they're like
five husbands, five husbands
he knew it
what about the guy that you're with now
he knew that too
they're like well
everybody knows that, yeah but he's from Judea
and they're like what
this is the Christ
you sinful lifestyles
not getting people saved, it literally got people
saved my friend
now look, I'm all for
ripping on sin, I'm all for
being the cleanest vessel you can possibly be
hey I'm all for cleaning it up
hey God's going to use those that are clean
the best, you know what
if you're dirty and can get someone saved
praise God
because we're all dirty, we all have
filthy rags
that was a wicked sermon
it was heresy, I'm sorry
it made me angry
that's what tipped the scales for me
because you know what, when someone's going to put a wet blanket
on soul winning, it just rubs me the wrong way
not only that, the evening sermon he preached
doing right in spite of bad examples
where he literally teaches that Job's the good guy
and Dave is the bad guy
anybody that's read the Bible is kind of like
what? it was weird my friend
you know what
it was pretty clear what he was trying to do
he was trying to paint Ryan Gallagher and Chad Argon
as these misunderstood church members
and Pastor Thompson
is just afflicting these good old poor
little church members
these poorly treated church members
and how whenever they disagree with the pastor
they're just automatically labeled as a bad guy
you know why they're labeled as a bad guy?
because they're bad guys
and look, if a disgruntled church member
of any pastor
is coming to me with their bank statements
you know what I'm going to think?
you're a bad guy
I'm not going to think, oh give them to me
let me look at those
let me comb over those with a fine tooth comb
look, if
brother Oliver comes up to me and is like
hey I've got Verity's bank statements
I'm going to be like, I don't want to look at that
and I'm calling Pastor Jimenez right now
what kind of agenda, this is wicked
this is bizarre
that's not normal my friend
why is he letting
Ryan Gallagher give him bank statements from another
church that has nothing to do with
I thought we were independent
oh we're so independent and he preaches so much
against the new IBD and the denomination
but he's going to take the bank statements
from a completely different church
and look, this is not a game to me
I'm not playing church right now
and Ryan Gallagher is a sworn enemy
of our church who's literally
taken our bank statements, who else is he
fishing them to right now?
and I find it interesting
that Mr. McMurtry wants to sit
here and make videos based on bank statements
against a pastor
and then I literally expose him as being a criminal
and those sermons are still up
I mean once you find out all the information
you used to attack a pastor
was based on a literal felon
wouldn't you be like, maybe I should
censor that one
maybe I should take that one down
or maybe I should call the pastor
up that's being attacked by that guy and say
I just want to make it clear, I'm not fellowshipping
with that guy anymore
I'm not getting any more information from this individual
which look, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
I doubt he has
but I don't know for sure
and it's kind of interesting
that, you know, you got Ryan Gallagher over here
there was another thing that the
former pastor's wife, Leslie Romero
she started an interesting little show
called Gently Led Sisters
it was that, Leslie Romero
and Cassandra McMurtry's wife
so two of my
directors have a direct
connection, that's weird
and it's interesting that you preach a whole
sermon against a bunch of dykes
and lesbians and loud and stubborn
women today and they have to try and
twist that to say that I was preaching against him
and his wife specifically
and I'm like, what in the world?
like if I preach the whole sermon against fags and some guy
came up to the service and said like, is that against me?
I'd be like, I didn't know
but yes, get out
look, that
sermon, loud and stubborn women, was literally
shared like tens of thousands
if not hundreds of thousands of times on TikTok
by all kinds of lesbians and dykes
and freaks and weirdos
they're making posters about it over here
and then literally an independent
Baptist pastor's wife is going to tell me it's all about her?
I'm thinking like, what?
what?
I literally named Joyce Meyer
and all these other women, I named a completely different
independent Baptist pastor's wife in that
sermon, it's more about them
than anybody, if the shoe fits
though I guess we're it
and look
I'm not saying, let me make it clear
I'm not saying these people are just bad people
because I don't believe that
in fact, a few weeks ago
I would have still said I would probably go to their church
if I was in their area, this is probably the best
church in their area, is it Soul Winning?
you know, to my knowledge, they have a lot
of good things going for them
but at this point, I don't want to sit here and listen to
sermons attacking Soul Winning
I don't want to sit here and hear vague book sermons
about bank statements that are coming from felons
you know, I don't want to hear
a constant attack on all these
people that are trying to serve God
with their life, even if they're not perfect
sorry that we're reaching people that just came
out of fornication, that just came out
of divorce, that just came out of sinful
lifestyles and we're trying to church them and try to bring them in
I'm not going to sit here and be like
oh, you go Soul Winning?
why don't you clean your life up first?
you know what, why don't you go
Soul Winning first?
why don't you clean
your heart first and then the outward
appearance, you Pharisee
now, go if you would to Proverbs 26
go to Proverbs 26
and look, I've listened to sermons
that Pastor McMerchies preached and I thought
they were great
I'll admit it right now, I've listened to tons
of sermons and I've liked them
I like every word even
I'm not sitting here saying this guy's a bad guy
I'm not saying he's unsaved, I'm not saying any of that crap
what I am saying is I'm going to stay away from him
because it's a clear pattern
of persecution and
you know, I just
I'm worried for my people
I'm worried for myself, I'm worried for my church
I have literal sworn enemies right now
that are attacking me
and look, because of the persecution
because of the pattern and because of the pals
I'm saying you should stay away from that person
okay
Ryan Gallagher, for sure
wow, why would you want to be friends with that guy
the Bible says in Proverbs 26 verse 17
he that passes by and meddles with strife not belonging to him
is like one that taketh the dog by the ears
he should have told Ryan Gallagher to take a hike
you know, the Bible says it's an honor for a man to cease from strife
but every fool be meddling
say, how do you know he talked to Ryan Gallagher?
well, both Pastor Thompson and his wife
were on the phone with him and he admitted it
I have two witnesses
okay
how about other pals of him
how about Stacy Shifflett
now I publicly endorsed his book
I even gave it to all my church members at one point in time
and I read the book and I'll admit
I thought it was one of the best page turners I've ever read
I mean, man, I was just
I went through that book quicker than I've read
getting through all kinds of books
and I thought a lot of information was good
you know, the last page was kind of a bummer
the last page said
he had to repent of your sin and then he put in a parenthesis
turn from your sin to be saved
and I thought
you know what, I'm just going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt
that looks bad
the benefit of the doubt
I've even visited his church not that long ago
like a year ago or so, I went and visited his church
but I have to say, after doing a little bit more inspection
that's not a good person to be hanging around with either
you know, and here's how you can tell
show me the clear gospel presentation of Pastor Shifflett
you know, anytime he brings up salvation
he always brings up repenting of your sins too
he always brings up you have to turn from your sin
here's some quotes from Stacey Shifflett
have you turned from sin unto the Lord?
in context of getting saved?
here's another quote
when did you turn from death unto life?
here's another one
people are getting saved
but they're not repenting
that's why there's not a change in their life
there's no transformation at all
so he's saying there's all these people that we think are getting saved
that we pray without the door
but because they didn't repent of their sin
they didn't actually get saved
and I went soul-wanting with his assistant pastor
and his assistant pastor literally told me
he said, anybody that doesn't come to church after we pray with them
is not saved
he said he got up in the Sunday school and said
I got up in the Sunday school and said
if you don't have works you're not saved
I thought the Bible says
therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith
without the deeds of the law
dead faith, well dead faith saves you apparently
because you know what? faith without works is what
saves you
what kind of nonsense is that?
don't get me started on that piano player of his
Adriel
the most queer, effeminate person I've ever met in my entire life
and you know what's interesting?
guess what position he holds in Stacey Shiblett's church?
school administrator
that's interesting reading a book called
Wolves Among Lambs
and if he's not a faggot
which I think he is probably
but if he's not
he's definitely the most effeminate person I've ever met
why would you want that
leading your school?
after the problems you already had with Cameron Givinelli
look
I don't even know if Stacey Shiblett's saved
but of course
if you preach against him
it's an attack against Pastor McMersery
well you know what?
go to Proverbs 14
I want to give you another verse here
here's another interesting pal
of Pastor McMersery
Josh Gander
now when I preached against Josh Gander
and warned about him
because he has a rogue church
was not ordained, was lying about it
and being deceptive about it
guess who called me right away?
Pastor Tommy McMersery
to try and convince me how great Josh is
and that I had lied or something
I even contacted Josh Gander's pastor
and confirmed with him
everything that I had said was true
I have the text messages still
he's never been ordained
but this is what Josh Gander
recently said on a YouTube comment about me
in context to me
we were talking to each other
he said Mr. Shelley lies from the pulpit
especially about men that make him feel insecure
this is verified
I'm so insecure about you Josh
so forgive me for addressing him in this way
I haven't wrote to him at all today
and my words now reveal how literal respect
I have for him
you're right
he's a shameful creature
and I would like to see him go down
in a big way
and I believe it's a fact
that whether it's this case
that does it
or the Lord in due time
he will come to naught
and he knows it too
I think I'll make myself president of McDonalds later
since according to your master
no one checks the paperwork
now he's mocking me
he says I'm your master
never took that title upon myself
even though he likes to give himself titles
like pastor
isn't that interesting, the guy that loves to take titles he doesn't have
likes to falsely accuse me
of taking titles I never claimed
not only that, he wants me to go down
this is what you call a sworn enemy
how can I be buddies with someone
that's pals with all the people
that are my literal sworn enemy
people are saying they want me to go down
you know I've preached against Josh Gander
you know I didn't say I'm praying for him to be destroyed
I just want him to stop
pastoring a rogue church
because it's wrong
that doesn't mean I want him destroyed or something
and look he's literally saying
he's glad or hopeful
that people literally stole the church's money
and look it's not about me
you know how much my money got stolen
Seth Gallagher, wow Seth Gallagher
that's a weird baby
Seth Bookout and Ryan Gallagher
and Leslie Murrow, zero
you know whose money they stole?
Steadfast Baptist Church
you know whose money they stole? God's money
what kind of motive
could anybody have in their heart to say
I hope three soul winning churches
have all their money stolen from them
or their church gets destroyed
that shows a pretty bad heart
if you ask me
there's hundreds of people here
there's hundreds of people that are influenced by our ministry
you want that to be destroyed because of me?
and look
even if God destroyed me tomorrow
this church will go on
this church will be steadfast
this church has already shown themselves to be unmovable
always abounding in the work of the Lord
and I believe that
it doesn't matter how much money they take
and look what kind of a loser is sitting here trying to attack
good ministries, good churches
like Josh Gander
the church has to come and defend the guy
and be his pal and be his buddy
why are you buddies with all these weirdos and freaks?
look what it says in Proverbs 14 verse 7
go from the presence of a foolish man
when thou perceivest not in them the lips of knowledge
how are you not walking away from
Josh Gander
how are you not walking away from Ryan Gallagher
how are you not walking away from Stacey Shifflett
how are you not walking away from
Keith Gomez
the guy that had a literal anti
Pastor Anderson conference
I don't even know how
Pastor Anderson is way more long suffering
and merciful than me
if some pastor had an anti Jonathan Shelley conference
and you were buddies with him
I'd be like, I don't want to be friends with you
somehow Pastor Anderson is more kind
than me, okay
more merciful than me
here's a quote from Keith Gomez
you are saved by works
why would you want to be friends with him
now he says, oh but it's important that you rightly divide
that was for the Jews
he literally teaches that in the Old Testament
you were saved by works
you can listen to it for yourself
he says James 2 teaches work salvation
but if you understand it's not written to you, it's written to the Jews
Romans 2 told me I was a Jew
that guy's not even saved
he had positive comments to say about
John MacArthur
about his stance on COVID
here's my stance on John MacArthur
I hope he goes to hell right now
I hope the government nukes his church
you know before COVID
John MacArthur, I hope the government
shut down his church
during COVID I hope the government shut down his church
after COVID I hope the government shuts down his church
because he's a wicked false prophet
and he's leading people to hell
hell but they didn't wear a mask on their way down
who cares
well they didn't get the vaccine on the way down
well you know what, hell's gonna hurt still
why in the world
would I ever support John MacArthur
for any reason
it's bizarre
but then you're gonna attack
Pastor Aaron Thompson
then you're gonna attack all the new IFB
seems weird, doesn't it
doesn't make any sense
being buddies with Joe Major and Grayson Fritz
you know the Bible says he that walketh a wise man shall be wise
but a companion of fools
shall be destroyed
he's just an open enemy of the new IFB
an open enemy of mine
he's just buddies with, hells with
he almost seems like a clear message
go to first email 20
I'm almost finished
hell, Josh Gator says
you can just make yourself the president of McDonalds later
well it's interesting if you just go to the secretary of state website
they literally say that
they literally say that you can file bogus documents
and claim to be the president or director of any company
at any time and it's a common theft
here let me read you
not only is it Texas
it's every secretary of state
because you just type in business identity theft
and it's like California, Ohio, Washington
Texas is just showing you
that this is a common theft
let me read for you
business identity theft
this is from California's one
business identity theft happens when criminals
pose owners, officers
or employees of a business
to illegally get cash, credit and loans
leaving the victimized business with the debts
now it says this
what are some common
business identity theft schemes
emphasis on the word on common
it says examples of business identity theft
include a variety of schemes
involving the fraudulent use of companies information
including and then it tells you what are the most
common ways that people do this
filing bogus documents with the secretary
of state's office
in order to change the business's
registered agent or the names of the
directors, officers or managers
of the company which can later help
thieves establish lines of credit with banks
and retailers, that's from the secretary
of state and that
doesn't matter which one, California
Texas, they say this is common
I saw one statistic that said
7% of businesses experience this
it's costing billions and billions
of dollars, it's a bad loophole
that the government just allows to exist
and banks allow to exist, it's a common
issue that
people have to deal with and he's like
yeah, he's lying and saying you can just do it
if you want to
I guess you're going to have to call the secretary of state
of Texas a liar too
and the secretary of state of California a liar too
you're going to have to call everybody a liar
because that's just fact
now let me conclude
what's the title of the sermon?
stay away from Saul
why? because he's throwing spears
because he's attacking David, because he's going back
on his word, because he's sneaky about his intentions
because he unleashes doe egg
on the priests of God
he wants to unleash Ryan Gallagher and Seth
look at all these people on the people of God
Josh Gander, to do your dirty work
for you, to go post the comment
I hope you're destroyed
you know what, there's going to be some Jonathans out there
that don't believe me
okay, you can do whatever you want
I'm telling you I'm going to stay away from this person
and I think that you should
I think this
what is a danger to my church
and I think you know what, you've heard so many sermons on
fags, you're good, okay
if you can walk past them
and come in here, you're probably okay already, alright
you know, is it
Seth, look out on Leslie Romero
that doesn't even affect you guys, it really only affects me and Dylan
you know, I mean
has anything changed for you guys?
I feel like the conference went about the same, didn't it?
I think everything's just been the exact same
for a normal church member, it really just
affects us having to change banks like every
second or whatever, annoying
you know what could
affect you, is someone preaching a bunch of
heresy and whispering in your ear
and trying to draw you away
try to get you disgruntled
you know, Pastor Thompson's lost tons of people
in his church because of these issues
and you know what, I hope
I lose anybody that wants to sympathize with these freaks
Look at 1 Samuel chapter 20 verse 32
Saul cast a javelin at him to smite him
whereby Jonathan knew it was determined of his father
to slay David. You know, Jonathan
woke up when the spear was headed at
him. Don't be Jonathan
you know
this is the moral of the story
stay away from Saul, Jonathan
go you would to Proverbs 24
the last place I'll have you turn
you know, David said this
a froward heart shall depart from me
I will not know a wicked person
who so privately slandered his neighbor
whom will I cut off?
you know, if I come up to you and I start whispering in your ear
a bunch of negative things about people
and I'm not saying it publicly
you should probably just get away from me
you know, and anybody that knows me
knows I'm not going around talking crap on people
you know, outside of like
my employee, I'm not sharing information
that doesn't need to be shared
and obviously my employee gets
limited information from me
on occasion about certain events
but that's because we work together
we have to deal with the same things, the same situations
be aware, be vigilant
you know what, I'm not going around just talking crap
to all my church members about every single person
in fact, most people, it's always
a surprise, they're like wow, I didn't necessarily
think you felt that way
but you know what, if someone's going around
slandering his neighbor, I don't want to have
anything to do with that person
and you know what, this is the last point I'm going to make
and this is probably the most important
after you've heard everything I've said
David never
attacked Saul
David never
attacked Saul
he warned about him, he stood away
he stayed away from him, he told
other people the dangers of him
but you know what, he himself never attacked him
and look, telling someone you're not going to be around
them, separating from them
warning about them is not attacking them
if it's true
but let me make it clear
hearing this sermon is not a license
to go and rail and lie about
a pastor
and you know what, David didn't take it kindly
when people attacked Saul
and people were like, oh, why would you attack Saul
he's a soul winner, but you know what, Saul constantly fought
the Philistines through that whole time
but you know what, because
he was a dangerous person, he stayed away
and here's the thing, if you lie
in slander against Pastor McMurtry
I will throw you out of my church
because
it's not right
especially since he's a man of God
it doesn't matter how bad they get
and I don't think, it's not necessarily that bad
it's just enough to say, stay away
it's enough to say there's an issue
and you know what, I hope it fixes it
I hope he decides to stop persecuting the wrong people
I hope it stops becoming a pattern
and I hope he gets rid of all those loser pals
that he's hanging out with
you know, if all those change, then let's fix it
you know, but until those things
change, I'm staying away
and
I want my church to be aware of this situation
and if something bad
happened to me, to him, I would
not be pleased
just like
Josh Gander wants something bad to happen to me
I don't want anything bad to happen to these guys
I'm not there, I'm not trying to be their enemy
look at Proverbs
24 verse 17
you know, David
killed the guy that claimed
to hurt Saul
and at the end of the day, we have to
balance the scriptures here and realize
it's not always just bad and good
sometimes it's a mix
we have to use the Bible to discern situations
protect ourselves
and make sure that we're just
marching on
I don't want a wet blanket on soul winning
I don't want to constantly have my church members persecuted and harassed
and I want you to be warned of
individuals that may hurt you
let's close in prayer
thank you Heavenly Father for this morning, thank you for our church
I pray that people would not be offended by the word of God
they wouldn't be offended by persecution
and the issues that we have to deal with
in our lives
but rather they would embrace the word of God
they would realize that if they serve the Lord faithfully
you're going to bless them and give them favor
and I pray that you would just
use this message to change the hearts of people
to get things right
and that we would all be on the same team
we would fight against each other
but rather we would just work together
to fight the Lord's enemies
and to get as many people saved as possible
in Jesus' name we pray, Amen
Alright, for our final song
we will sing 405
The Banner of the Cross
Song 405
The Banner of the Cross
Song 405
The Banner of the Cross
There's a royal banner
given for display
to the soldiers
of the King
as an ensign
where we lift it up today
college, friends, and ones
we sing
marching on
Lord Christ ground everything
but loss
and to crown him King
toil and sin
lead the banner of the cross
through the fold
they rage and gather
as the father let the
standard be his claim
and beneath
his bolt as soldiers
of the Lord for the truth
be not his name
marching on
Lord Christ ground
everything but loss
and to crown him
King toil and sin
lead the banner
of the cross
over land and sea
wherever man can
help make the glorious
tide his blow
of the crimson banner
now the story's held
college, war shall claim
his own
marching on
Lord Christ ground everything
but loss
and to crown him King
toil and sin
lead the banner of the cross
in the glory
lost is
drawn and buried here
it is his claim day by day
and before
our King of
Folks are less of fear
and the cross the world shall say
marching on
Lord Christ ground
everything but loss
and to crown him
King toil and sin
lead the banner
of the cross
God bless you.
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