2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 3, the Bible reads,
Let no man deceive you by any means,
for that day shall not come,
except they come a fooling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition.
The title for the sermon this afternoon is
The Pre-Tribulation Rapture Deception.
What did it say there?
Let no man deceive you by any means,
for that day shall not come.
Listen, when it comes to the day of Christ,
when it comes to the gathering of believers unto Christ,
that day will not come except some things come first,
as we saw there in that verse, okay?
Now, I've got this book here.
This is a book called Things to Come.
It's a little bit worn out now.
Things to Come by J. Dwight Pentecost, okay?
Now, this textbook is one of the biggest sellers
when it comes to end times teaching,
when it comes to eschatology.
This book is found in many Bible colleges
throughout the world.
I mean, I can't remember how many millions of copies
have been sold, I can't remember exactly what it is,
but it's a very, very popular book,
written by J. Dwight Pentecost.
Now, the little that I know of this man,
he seems like a pretty decent guy.
I mean, I don't have anything against him,
but I do have many things against this book, okay?
Things to Come, and this is the book that's also used
by the primary independent Baptist church college,
Bible college, I should say,
in the primary independent,
fundamental Baptist college in Australia,
and they'll use this book in the lectures.
They'll use this book in the class,
so if you went to do a course on eschatology,
they will get you to purchase this book,
and you will go through.
Your requirement would be to read every page in this book,
and I've read every page in this book, okay?
I definitely have, and I think I may have even read it twice
or at least definitely once
and a decent portion a second time,
and so I'm gonna be preaching
against the pre-tribulation rapture, okay?
Now, what I left off, this is our series on the end times.
We started this series on Wednesday,
and I left off with the pre-millennial position
that we hold, and I had mentioned
there are two schools of thought
when it comes to the pre-millennial position,
that is that Christ will return,
then he will establish his millennial kingdom,
a thousand years where he will rule on this earth,
and there are two thoughts behind this.
Number one is a dispensational pre-millennial position,
which this book holds to
and what most Baptist churches hold to, okay?
And that is a position that's become famous
in the last hundred years, all right?
Now, dispensationalism is a requirement,
100% requirement in order for you to conclude in the Bible,
well, actually not in the Bible,
but that's your conclusion
that there's a pre-tribulation rapture,
that when Christ comes back to give us resurrected bodies,
when he comes back in the clouds,
that he's going to do that before the tribulation to come.
Now, this church, I, as your pastor,
hold to a historic pre-millennial position,
that is a position that Christ will come after
the tribulation, that Christ will come after
the man of sin is revealed,
he'll come after the Antichrist establishes himself
and persecutes the believers.
And the reason I brought this book here
is I've had many discussions, some heated,
but most of them very pleasant, very fruitful discussions,
and I've gone through the reasons certain people believe
in a pre-trib rapture,
and quite often when I debunk those positions,
they'll say to me, well, that's, yeah, okay,
I see what you're saying, but that's not why I believe it.
And then I'll debunk another position,
what, yeah, I see where you're coming from,
but that's not why I believe it.
And so, here's the thing, I mean,
it's like any, if you, I talk to anybody,
they've got all these different reasons
why they believe in a pre-trib rapture,
but you can't really nail them down,
you can't really show, what's that verse
that you believe again?
What's that verse that you read that shows,
that tells us that Christ is coming before the tribulation?
No one can point you to that, okay?
And so, what I decided to do,
instead of giving reasons that I'm familiar with,
I thought, let's go to the textbook,
let's go with one of the main books
the Bible colleges uses,
and let's see what this author has to say,
because this is what many people are parroting,
this is what many people are saying.
I mean, even you'll be familiar with many of the things
that are said in this book,
and so, I'm not gonna get through,
I think it was like 20-something pages
on the pre-trib rapture here,
I'm not gonna get through every argument this sermon,
I hope to get through maybe half of them in this sermon,
and then the other half, Lord willing, on Wednesday,
that would be my plan,
but the pre-tribulation rapture deception.
Now look at 2 Thessalonians 2, chapter three again,
what did it say there?
For that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
so there's gonna be a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.
Very clear, very clear here,
there are two things that must take place
before the Lord returns.
The man of sin is revealed, and the fallen away, okay?
Now the pre-trib position will take and say,
well no, the rapture happens
before the man of sin is revealed,
and that man of sin is what we know as the antichrist,
or the beast of the book of Revelation.
So what I'm gonna do,
this sermon's gonna be a little bit different,
I'm gonna read portions, I've highlighted certain portions,
I'm gonna read portions to you
as to why they believe what they believe,
and then I'll give you what the Bible says, okay?
So we'll do it that way.
Now, when it comes to the pre-tribulation rapture,
it says here, there are basically two key thoughts here
that the author lists why he teaches
or believes the pre-trib rapture.
Number one, it says, number one,
the essential basis of the pre-tribulation rapture position.
Okay, so this is the essential basis.
This is why he says we believe in the pre-trib rapture.
This is what he says.
Pre-tribulation rapturism rests essentially
on one major premise.
Oh man, what's the one major premise?
The literal method of interpretation of the scriptures.
That's the one basis, Brevin,
the literal method of interpretation of the scriptures.
Now, Brevin, as your pastor,
should you read this literally?
Absolutely, amen, except when it's not, okay?
Except when it's obviously not to be taken literally, okay?
So me, I totally believe that.
I totally believe you should approach the Bible literally.
That's what they're saying is the one thing.
But here's the thing,
why don't I believe in the pre-trib rapture?
Well, let's have a look.
They've got a second reason here.
The second major thing here,
and this is where most of the points are made,
the essential arguments of the pre-tribulation rapturists.
I want you to think about it for a moment.
The essential arguments of the pre-tribulation rapturists.
If I was defending a position, Brevin,
if I came to you teaching something,
would I come with you with essential arguments,
or would I just open up the Bible
and show you some verses?
Isn't that how we build doctrine on the word of God,
or do we build doctrine from arguments,
appealing to logic, appealing to who can win an argument?
That's not how you build doctrine.
You build it on the word of God.
But here's the thing, okay,
now, there are like 20-something reasons.
I'm gonna try to get through 10 or 11 of them this afternoon.
So let me go through their essential arguments
for the pre-trib rapture, okay.
Argument number one, which is kind of what we already read.
Number one, the literal method of interpretation.
Again, they harp on that they're readers
that take the Bible literally, right?
What they read, they believe, they take it literally.
Great, I like that attitude.
It says here, the literal method of interpretation.
It is frankly and freely admitted by our millennials,
now, I talked a little bit about our millennials
on Wednesday, who are they?
They're the people that don't really believe
in a literal millennial on this earth, right?
And that Christ will come
once we evangelize this entire world,
once we become a Christian world, they believe.
That's when Christ is coming back.
So what they're saying is,
our millennials will frankly admit
that the basic issue in the controversy
between pre-millennials and themselves
is the issue of the method of interpretation,
to be employed in the interpretation of prophecy.
So why are we pre-millennial?
I agree with the author.
You know, we take the Bible literally.
That thousand years that I went through with you
in the book of Revelation,
we believe that's a literal thousand years,
not some spiritual thing or longer than a thousand years.
It's definitely a thousand years.
But what this author continues to do is then say,
in order for you to remain consistent
with a literal position,
you'll end up believing the pre-trib rapture.
No verses provided.
No verses, listen, that's the section.
The section is one page long, okay?
The section is one page long, no verses.
They just said they believe
in the literal interpretation of scripture,
not a single literal verse given.
Could you imagine that?
I mean, what in the world?
You know, now, no literal verses.
I mean, what they should now do,
we believe it literally, so here are some verses, right?
Here are the two and three witnesses
of the literal reading that the rapture's happening
before the tribulation, not one given.
But here's what they fooled the reader into thinking, right?
The reader who's easily manipulated,
the reader that's easily deceived,
they're gonna conclude, oh, the pre-trib rapture,
that must be a literal position, okay?
Now, keep that in mind.
They've said that twice already, okay?
Now, the second point they make here
is the nature of the 70th week.
This is the next reason.
There are a number of words
used in both the Old and New Testaments,
so I'm reading the book here,
to describe the 70th week period.
So we believe in this 70th week period,
these 70 weeks of prophecy from Daniel,
and we do believe there's one week left,
and that week doesn't represent seven days,
it represents seven years.
So just so you know what's going on here,
and then it says there are many words used to describe it,
and these are some words used to describe
the seven-year period, wrath, judgment,
indignation, punishment, destruction, darkness.
So far, I agree on all of this.
All of these words are used to describe
some portion, some part of that seven-year period, right?
But then the author says this.
It must be noted that these references
describe the period in its entirety,
not just a portion of it,
so that the whole period bears this characterization, okay?
You see what he's saying?
Now listen, I'm gonna go into this later on,
but I believe in a period called the beginning of sorrows,
which leads up to the midst of the week, Jesus describes.
At the midst of the week,
he then calls that the great tribulation, okay?
Then after, and we'll probably go look at that later on,
after that, when the sun is dark and the moon turns to blood
and the stars from heaven, that's called the wrath of God,
okay, the day of God's wrath, okay?
And so I don't have a problem with these words,
wrath, judgment, destruction.
Another one they've got here is the hour of temptation.
They'll say, and what they're trying to say is,
all of these words describe the entire seven-year period.
Chapter and verse, can you show me a chapter, a verse,
a book of the Bible that says the entire seven-year period
is described by all these elements?
No, okay?
Now they started with truth,
they started with, it includes all these things,
but then he wants you to think the entire period
can be called all that.
Now that's just his opinion, that's not a Bible verse.
That's not an argument for the pre-trib rapture.
And here's the thing, he's got two areas here
that we're going to look at,
and if you guys can go to Revelation 3 please,
go to Revelation chapter 3 and verse number 10,
Revelation chapter 3 verse 10,
because this is what he wants you to believe
is the seven-year period
and why they believe in a pre-trib rapture.
Revelation chapter 3 verse 10, the Bible reads,
because thou has kept the word of my patience,
I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation,
which shall come upon all the world
and try them that dwell upon the earth.
There it is, brethren, there's the pre-trib rapture.
Say where?
There it is, didn't you read it?
From the hour of temptation.
You say, hold on, hold on.
So they just finished saying
they believe in a literal reading.
So if we, okay, that's what they told us.
I'm going to believe them.
I'm not going to rebel against you.
I'm going to believe exactly what you said.
Okay, literal reading.
I will keep thee from the hour.
But you want me to believe that's seven years?
Wait a minute, who's been literal
and who's been figurative?
Is an hour seven years?
Man, no, this service will be over in an hour.
Were you really sitting here for seven years long?
No, listen, the literal reading is the hour.
And then what is it?
The hour of temptation.
Is this the great tribulation?
Is this a seven-year period?
No, it's talking about temptation.
If we want to take a literal view,
this is an hour of temptation.
They are not taking a literal view.
They are taking a figurative view.
They want you to believe hour equals seven years.
That's not literal.
They want you to believe temptation is the great tribulation.
That's not literal.
Guess what we found?
The first point, the second point, contradiction.
Contradiction in their arguments, all right?
And look, I'm a faithful guy wanting to learn the Bible.
I want to believe what they just said, that it's literal.
I want to take a literal reading.
But they've deviated from it.
They're saying, we're consistently literal.
Next point, they broke that.
They broke their argument already.
And Brevin, this was my problem as a young Christian.
I believed the pre-treat rapture,
and I kept seeing these contradictions.
You're telling me it's literal,
but you're not showing me any literal verses.
In fact, you're taking portions
and turning them into figurative speech,
and wanting me to interpret those passages
with a figurative interpretation of the rapture.
No, these arguments fall apart.
What else did they mention here?
They mentioned in Jeremiah 37, you don't need to turn there.
Alas, for that day is great, so that none is like it.
It is even the time of Jacob's trouble,
and he shall be saved out of it.
See, the seven year tribulation, it's for Jacob.
Well, hold on, alas, for that day is great.
What, so now you want me to not take this literally?
You want me to now take this figurative,
that a day equals seven years?
Brethren, it's a failure.
These arguments are not arguments.
You know why?
Because they're not built on any literal scriptures.
They're not built on any verses of the Bible.
And here's the thing, this is the thing,
if you have a brother in the Lord
that believes in the pre-treat rapture,
all you need to ask them, show me one verse.
And when they can't find the verse, just say,
look, if you wanna keep believing the pre-treat rapture,
I'm fine with that, but I want you to at least admit
that it's not in the Bible.
I'm fine with you believing what you want,
doesn't hurt me, but I just want you to admit
that it's not something that's built on the word of God.
It's not built in any literal reading,
and your argument for the nature of the seven to eight week
falls apart because you've now gone figurative
in your language.
I think about this, brethren, if I said to you,
you know, when we read Genesis chapter one,
and we know that God created everything in six days.
If I said to you, brethren, I believe
in the literal reading of the Bible.
I believe in a literal creation there in Genesis one.
And then I get behind the pulpit and say,
well, here's the thing, on day number one,
you know, each of these six days,
you know, each day represents a thousand years.
That's what it represents, a thousand years.
Am I being literal now?
But what if, no, no, I am being literal,
because my interpretation is built on literacy.
And you'll say, well, it says evening and morning
were the first day.
Well, yeah, so you gotta understand,
evening is the first 500 years,
and the morning is the next 500 years
to make the thousand years, right?
I mean, you would say, Pastor Kevin,
you're being retarded, right?
You'd say, you know, you've got a retarded doctrine there,
Pastor Kevin, all right?
But here's the thing.
At least I could go to a verse, okay,
now badly used, out of context,
and I can turn to 2 Peter 3.8.
But beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,
that one day is with the Lord a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day.
Now, that's out of context.
It's got nothing to do with creation, right?
But here's the thing, at least I found a verse
that has a day and a thousand years.
Listen, that's more than what
the pre-Trib rapture believer has.
Can you show me where one hour equals seven years
anywhere in the Bible,
or one day equals seven years anywhere in the Bible?
Man, if you think my interpretation of creation
is ridiculous, what about the pre-Trib rapture?
It's a failure.
It's not built on the word of God.
Not even close.
You can't even take verses out of context
and show seven years as an hour,
or anything like that, okay?
So, that's the second point.
The third point is this.
The scope of the 70th week, the scope.
What they say is, when this period
is being anticipated in Daniel 9,
God says, and you guys, please go to Daniel.
Daniel chapter 12.
Go to Daniel chapter 12.
When this period is being anticipated in Daniel 9,
God says to the prophet,
70 weeks are determined upon thy people
and thy holy city, in verse number 24.
Now, you guys go to Daniel 12.
And that's true.
That's what God says to Daniel.
And then he says, this whole period
has a special reference to Daniel's people, Israel,
and Daniel's holy city, Jerusalem.
Now, I do partly believe what is being taught here.
Yes, God did say these words to Daniel,
that this 70 week period is for Daniel's people
and for Daniel's holy city.
And I do believe that city is Jerusalem,
because Jerusalem does also play a major role
in the end times, okay?
But the author, without giving us a Bible verse,
wants us to believe that Daniel's people is Israel.
So, all the Jews that make up the nation of Israel,
that's Daniel's people, according to the author.
Now, you guys are in Daniel 12, verse one.
Daniel 12, verse one.
What does the Bible say?
They've not given us a Bible verse
to tell us that it's Israel, okay?
It could be, but we need a Bible verse
to tell us what it is, right?
Daniel 12, verse one, the Bible reads,
and at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth
for the children of thy people.
Hey, there's the people of Daniel,
and there shall be a time of trouble,
and this is the same as to the tribulation,
such as never was since there was a nation,
even to the same time, look at this,
and at that time, thy people shall be delivered.
Oh man, all the Israelites, all the Jews,
all the non-believing Jews, because of their DNA,
because of their blood, they're gonna be delivered.
Everyone that shall be found written in the book.
That's Daniel's people.
Everyone that is found written in God's book.
And listen, if you're saved, you,
regardless if you're Jew, Gentile, if you're saved,
you believe in Christ, you are written in God's holy book.
Okay, the Bible tells us in Revelation 3, five,
he that overcometh, the same shall be clothed
in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name
out of the book of life, but I will confess his name
before my father and before his angels.
Please go to Exodus 32, Exodus 32.
Daniel's people are saved people.
Okay, Daniel's people are saved people,
those that have their names written in the book of life.
Exodus 32, please, Exodus 32, 32.
Now, what we're about to read is after Moses
goes up to Mount Sinai, everybody comes back
and they built the golden calf and they're worshiping it,
they're dancing naked and all this kind of stuff, right?
And of course, a very wicked thing that they've done
and God wants to destroy the Israelites.
But this is what Moses says to God in Exodus 32, 32.
Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin,
and if not blot me, I pray thee,
out of thy book which thou hast written.
And the Lord said unto Moses,
whosoever have sinned against me,
him will I blot out of my book.
Here's what's beautiful about the Old Testament
and the New Testament.
We have the same book, okay, that has our names.
And those that don't believe in Christ,
those that are unsaved, if they were to die
or become reprobate, their names will be taken
out of the book of life.
But if you are saved, your name remains.
This is consistent in the Old Testament.
You can't tell me Daniel's got some other book.
I mean, Moses is talking about the same book, okay,
and making sure that he would rather have his name
blotted out than all of the Israelites.
I mean, he cares for the people, right?
And of course, I'll just read another passage to you,
Revelation 21, 27 says, and there shall in no wise
enter into anything that defileth,
neither whatsoever work of abomination or make of a lie,
but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life,
speaking of the New Jerusalem, the heavenly city,
only those that are names written in the book of life,
in the book of the Lamb's book of life
can enter into that city.
And guess what?
That city has 12 gates, and those 12 gates are the tribes,
the names of the tribes of Israel, okay?
Old Testament saints, New Testament saints,
our names are written in the same book,
and we are the people of Daniel,
and Daniel is our people, he's our person, okay,
because we're all saved in the same way
by grace through faith.
And so this author just, he doesn't want to show us a verse.
He just says, oh, it's Israel.
There's truth, right?
And if you're not careful, that's true, that's true,
Daniel's people, Israel, I guess that's true,
and you just keep going like that.
No, you go and you build your doctrine,
your beliefs on the word of God.
The word of God's very clear, who are Daniel's people?
Those who are saved, those that have their names written
in the Lamb's book of life, all right?
So the next argument they've got here
for the pre-Trib rapture is the purpose of the 70th week,
the purpose behind it.
And it says here, the second, if you guys,
I'll get you to turn to Mark 9, go to Mark 9.
The second major purpose of the 70th week,
the book reads here, is in relation to Israel.
You see, the 70th week, it's all about Israel, bruv,
it's not about you, you Gentile Australian, okay?
It's about these physical Israelites,
and here's their argument for it,
I'm glad that I've at least taken the Bible now, okay?
Malachi 4, 5, and 6, I'll just read Malachi 4, 5,
this is their argument,
behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
Now, that great and dreadful day of the Lord
is a future event, okay?
And the Bible's saying that Elijah will come
before that day, okay?
Has Elijah come though, brethren?
Did he come already?
Well, look at Mark chapter 9, please,
Mark 9, 11, Mark 9, 11,
and actually, before I read the passage,
let me read to you in the book
what their argument for this is.
So they write here, it can only be concluded then,
that Elijah, who is to come before
the great and terrible day of the Lord,
can have only one ministry, only one,
that of preparing a remnant in Israel
for the advent of the Lord.
What in the world?
The author's telling me, Elijah's only got one ministry,
just one thing he wants to do, just to get Jews saved.
He doesn't care about anybody else, did you know that?
He doesn't care about you,
he doesn't care about your relatives
that might go through the tribulation, whatever it is, okay?
All he cares about is getting the Jews saved
according to this book, all right?
And so they say, because Elijah came,
and let's read the passage, Mark 9, 11,
and they asked him, speaking to Jesus,
why say the scribes that Elias must first come?
That's Elijah.
And he answered and told them, so Jesus gives the answer.
Elias verily cometh first and restoreth all things,
and how it is written of the Son of Man
that he must suffer many things and be set at naught.
But I say unto you that Elias is indeed come,
and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed
as it is written of him.
Now if you know the Bible,
they're speaking of John the Baptist, okay?
When Jesus says that Elias has come, Elijah has come,
he's referring to the same spirit
by which John the Baptist came, okay?
Now John the Baptist came, pointing us to Christ, okay?
Here's what's funny about that.
So they're thinking that Elijah has a,
I mean, that's the fulfillment there of Malachi 4-5.
That's the fulfillment, John the Baptist.
This is already taking place, all right?
But what they're trying to say is,
well, Elijah has to come again,
and because his main ministry was in Judea,
well, his main ministry will be in that place again,
and he's only trying to reach the Jews.
Say, well, where's that argument come from?
If you guys can go to Revelation 11, please,
go to Revelation chapter 11,
and the argument this person is making here is,
well, it said he is coming before
the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
Well, he's ready to come before
the great and dreadful day of the Lord, isn't he?
I mean, that's still to come,
and Elijah came 2,000 years ago before Christ, okay?
So it's already, I mean, as far as that,
if you wanna just take a very literal view
of that scripture, it's already been fulfilled, okay?
But they want you to believe that Elijah's gonna come again
or John the Baptist's gonna come again,
one of these guys is gonna come again, right?
Just to preach the Jews, all right?
Now, they get this from Revelation chapter 11.
Look at this, Revelation chapter 11, verse three,
because this is about the two witnesses.
It says here, and I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy 1,200 and threescore days
clothed in sackcloth.
Now, that 1,200 and threescore days
represents three and a half years, okay?
Many people, as do I, believe this is Elijah and Moses.
And so is Elijah coming back in the future?
He is, well, if that's Elijah.
But here's the thing, does the Bible tell us it's Elijah?
Does it tell us it's Moses?
The Bible doesn't say these things.
Now, you can have a very strong opinion that it is them.
I have a very strong opinion that it's them.
I can make an argument for them,
but can I really be that dogmatic
and say it's definitely them
when the Bible doesn't actually tell us it's those two?
He can't be, okay?
So is this scripture that they're talking about
that Elijah's just gonna come for the Jews,
is that really being taught literally from the Bible?
These are just opinions, these are just arguments.
Now, it may very well be Elijah.
Now, if he's coming for three and a half years,
I want you to consider this.
And obviously, I've not covered,
obviously, this is a series,
so I haven't covered it yet in the series,
but we believe in a post-Trib pre-Raph Rapture.
And at the midst of the week, there's a great tribulation
of the Antichrist persecuting the people of God,
the children of God, believers, the church, okay?
Shortly after that three and a half year period,
that's when the Lord's gonna come back
and rapture his believers.
But here's the thing,
that's shortly after three and a half years.
Now, these two witnesses,
they're gonna be there for three and a half years, okay?
So, that's gonna be the second half
of the three and a half years.
That means if you scale it back,
these two witnesses appear shortly before the rapture,
shortly before the day of the Lord, okay?
Think about that.
So, that means if we're here on the last days,
facing the tribulation,
we're gonna see these two witnesses,
probably Elijah and Moses, preaching.
And we're there, we're gonna be there, okay?
So, it's not that they just have a ministry just for Jews,
because believers from all across the world
are gonna be there at the same time, okay?
If we just take it literally,
which they want me to take literally in the Bible, okay?
I mean, an argument for this,
you know, it's only for the Jews, it fails.
I mean, there's no verse
that actually says anything like that.
They've got to stretch a prophecy for Malachi,
which Jesus says was fulfilled in John the Baptist, okay?
Now, let's keep going.
The next point they've got here
is the unity of the 70th week.
Now, brethren, if I haven't explained something clearly
to you, just please,
you can ask me any questions after the service,
any questions after the sermon,
any questions during the week about what I'm preaching.
I'm more than happy to try to clarify
if I'm rushing through these things.
The next point is the unity of the 70th week, all right?
Please go to Matthew 24.
And while you're turning,
I'll read to you from this book.
It says here,
while all would agree on the basis that Daniel 9.27,
so that's one portion of scripture,
Matthew 24.15, that's another portion,
and Revelation chapter 13,
that's three, there's three witnesses, great.
We all would agree, yeah,
that the week, that seven-year period,
is divided into two parts of three and one-half years each.
We would agree with that, right?
Amen?
And then it says here,
yet the nature and character of the week is one,
permeating both parts in their entirety.
Think about that.
Even though we have three major passages of the Bible,
making a clear distinction
between the first three and a half years
and the next three and a half years,
just believe the author,
that it's all the same in one thing.
Who cares?
It's the unity in the 70th week.
Do you think God would tell us three times
about a division, about the middle of the week,
if it's just all the same thing?
But that's what he wants us to believe.
Say why?
Because the pre-Tribulation rapture believers,
cannot distinguish the differences
between the wrath of God and the Tribulation.
They don't want you to distinguish the differences.
So it's all the same one thing.
It's all unites, all the unity of the 70th week.
Who cares about this divided period in the middle?
It's not that important,
even though the Bible tells us three different times.
Listen Brethren, if God is telling us three different times
about this division of three and a half years each,
that means it's important.
That means there's a division.
We're talking about rightly dividing the word of God.
God divides it for us.
So we go off the division
that God has given us between these periods.
Now, let me show you the division very quickly.
Matthew 24, seven.
I kind of mentioned it very quickly to you before,
but just quickly here.
Verse number seven,
for nation shall rise against nation,
and kingdom against kingdom,
and there shall be famines and pestilences and earthquakes
in diverse places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
This beginning of sorrows leads up to the first half
of that seven year period,
that first three and a half years,
to the midst of the week.
Look at verse number 15.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation
spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place,
whoso readeth, let him understand.
I'll just read to you very quickly from Daniel 9, 27,
the midst of the week.
This abomination of desolation
takes place in the midst of the week.
Why is that important?
Because like this author said,
Daniel 9, 27, Matthew 24, 15, Revelation three,
there's a division,
there's something that happens in the middle of that week,
and it's when the antichrist reveals himself.
It's when he's exalted himself,
and he demands the people of the world
to worship him and to worship the dragon.
And this period now is now known in the Bible
as the great tribulation, okay?
Now, look at verse number 29, verse number 29.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days,
so we have the tribulation,
now the day period after the tribulation of those days,
shall the sun be darkened,
and the moon shall not give the light,
and the stars shall fall from heaven,
and the powers of the heaven shall be shaken.
Now, this corresponds neatly with Revelation 6, 13,
which says, and the stars of heaven fell onto the earth,
even as a fig tree cast off her untimely figs,
when she is shaken of a mighty wind,
for the great, and then verse number 17 says,
for the great day of his wrath is come,
and who shall be able to stand?
So what's the Bible teaching us?
Why is that division important?
The three and a half years,
then the three and a half years, beginning of sorrows.
The entire world will be in distress
during those first three and a half years.
In the midst of the week,
the antichrist will exalt himself,
demand worship, demand that you worship the dragon,
the mark of the beast, all those kinds of things.
That is known as the great tribulation.
Those that do not take the mark, he will persecute.
He will persecute the believers
that are not gonna worship the dragon, right?
Then immediately after the tribulation,
shortly after that three and a half year period,
that's when Christ returns,
and then the people of the earth are wailing because of it,
and they're saying that the great day of his wrath is come.
Beginning of sorrows, half point, great tribulation,
then God's wrath, God's wrath upon this earth.
And we believe in a post-tribulation
after the persecution of the antichrist,
but before God pulls out his wrath,
that we will be raptured from the earth.
So this is all for saying,
look, just ignore the division, it's all the same.
No, they're at clear distinctions, okay?
The literal reader of the Bible will see those distinctions,
and notice these are important things.
Who's trying to deceive, reverend?
Sounds like this author's trying to deceive.
Sounds like he's trying to tell you,
it's all one and the same thing.
And this is why, because we know that as believers,
we will not face the wrath of God,
and he wants you to believe the entire thing
is the wrath of God, and so he writes this.
He writes, the latter group, referring to the church,
will go, sorry, sorry, the latter group here
talking about Israel in his sense,
will go into the tribulation period
for Revelation 2.22 indicates clearly
that the unsaved professing church
will experience this visitation of wrath.
Please go to Revelation 2.22.
Let's see what this author is talking about.
Revelation 2.22.
Revelation, actually, sorry, I missed the point.
So this is the next point he makes,
the nature of the church, the nature of the church, okay?
So let's talk about the nature.
You guys are going to Revelation 2.22?
Look at this.
It says here, because he doesn't want any church,
any saved people to be part of the tribulation, right?
So when he's faced with a passage here in Revelation 2.22,
what does it say?
Behold, I will cast her,
and this is talking about the church in Thyatira.
Behold, I will cast her into a bed,
and them that commit adultery with her
into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
Now listen, I'm a reader, a literal reader of the Bible.
This is talking about a church,
and if they're not careful, if they don't repent,
the Bible says here they're gonna go into great tribulation.
Isn't that what it says, literally?
Of course that's what it says, right?
But do they want churches to be in that period of time?
No, they don't want.
So what are they gonna do with a passage like that?
Well, this is what he says.
Revelation 2.22, so what we just read about these people,
indicates clearly that the unsaved professing church
will experience this visitation of wrath.
What's he saying?
These people are not saved.
That's why they're gonna face the great tribulation,
because obviously in his view,
the saved will be raptured and go to heaven.
Okay, well, am I gonna believe Dr.,
you know, what's his name?
Dwight Pentecost?
Or am I gonna try to get something sold from the Bible?
Are these people saved or unsaved?
Well, first of all, because it's a church,
you should automatically think they're saved.
Yeah, but that's not good enough, right?
We need a scripture.
Let's go back two verses, just two verses,
J. Dwight Pentecost that you forgot to read, all right?
Verse number 20, Revelation 2, verse 20.
It says here,
Notwithstanding, I have a few things against thee,
because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel,
which calleth herself a prophetess, look at this,
to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication,
and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
Who are these people
that are committing fornication of Jezebel?
The servants of God, the servants of Christ.
These are believers, all right?
These are believers
that have been deceived by this woman preacher.
And then you're telling me that they're unsaved?
Listen, the Bible's clear.
These people are saved,
and even the saved can fall into some major heresies
or some major sins.
And that's the warning here.
If a church were to fall into those things,
they need to repent of those things,
or don't expect protection during the Great Tribulation.
You'll be cast into that Great Tribulation
to suffer and die, basically, all right?
So, I mean, he's telling you they're unsaved,
but Jesus tells me they're his servants.
I'm gonna go with Jesus on this one,
not with Dr. Pentecost, okay?
Let's keep going.
The next argument he makes,
the concept of the church as a mystery,
the concept of the church as a mystery.
It says here, in his writings,
the church is manifestly and, listen to this.
Think of New Life Baptist Church.
Think about other good churches that are serving the Lord,
that are the Church of Christ.
This is how he wants you to think about the church.
The church is manifestly an interruption.
Brethren, you're just an interruption.
What are you doing here?
Can you let God go about his business
dealing with the Jews, please?
Can you stop interrupting God's program, all right?
The church is manifestly an interruption
of God's program for Israel,
which was not brought into being
until Israel's rejection of the offer of the kingdom.
It must logically follow that the mystery program
must itself be brought to a conclusion
before God can resume his dealing with the nation Israel.
It must logically follow.
What's he arguing from?
Man's logic.
Chapter and verse, please.
Can I see where the church is
the interruption of God's plan?
Can you show me where God put Israel aside
just to deal with some gentile believing interruptions?
Okay, now he wants the interruption gone
so he can finally go back to plan A?
Can you give me a verse about that?
It's just logic.
It angers me, brethren, because Jesus died for the church.
He purchased it with his own blood.
And you wanna call that an interruption?
Man, this is the most beautiful thing
that Christ has ever done for us.
I would never use those words describing it.
Now, I'm just gonna read a portion of scripture to you.
I wanna speed up here.
Are the gentiles an interruption?
Is the New Testament church an interruption?
Matthew 8, 10.
And Jesus heard it and marveled
and said unto them that followed,
verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith.
No, not in Israel.
He's speaking about a Roman centurion,
a non-Jew who had great faith.
And I say unto you,
that many shall come from the east and west
and shall sit down with Abraham
and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
Oh man, these are the interruptions.
No, the Jew says they're welcome.
From the east and the west,
they're gonna sit down with these patriarchs.
They're gonna sit down with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Israel.
We're gonna sit down.
And then he says this,
but the children of the kingdom, those are the Jews,
shall be cast out into outer darkness.
There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Listen, Israel that rejected Christ,
they have a false religion in Judaism, okay?
They're not part of God's program in the future.
They're gonna be cast into outer darkness.
God's not dealing with some interruption.
It's all plan A.
Us together, Jews, Gentiles sitting down together,
you know, fellowshipping together in that one body.
Jesus says in John 10, 16,
and other sheep have I which are not of this fold.
They're not of Israel, not of this fold.
Them also must I bring and they shall hear my voice
and there shall be one fold and one shepherd.
Beautiful words from Jesus Christ.
We're all one.
Stop being a racist.
You know, pre-trib rapture believers.
The Jews aren't special.
They're just the same as you and I.
They need Jesus.
They need to be saved, okay?
They need to be saved, these people.
The next thing they've got here,
the next point, point number eight,
is the distinction between Israel and the church.
There's distinctions between Israel,
what did I just read?
What distinction?
Anyway, these two groups cannot be united into one.
I'm sorry, Jesus, you said you wanted one fold.
Dr. Pentecost says you can't do it.
Can't be done, Jesus.
You got it all wrong.
Brethren, listen, am I gonna finish this series on this?
I don't know.
Where are the verses?
Where is the Bible verse?
Telling me what you're telling me is true.
Where is it?
Literal reading of the Bible?
Nonsense.
Rubbish.
Give me the Bible.
Give me Bible verses.
You can give me Bible verses for the virgin birth.
You can give me Bible verses
for the second coming of Christ.
You can give me Bible verses for the atonement of Christ,
his sacrifice, his shed blood,
salvation by grace through faith.
Where's the Bible verse for the preacher rapture?
We're just gonna make arguments for it.
Logic, you know?
What Jesus says he wants to do, it can't be done.
Could you imagine if I'm like this as a pastor
and my sermons are all like this?
I haven't given you many arguments
for why salvation is by grace through faith
and not even give you a Bible verse.
You say, get out of there.
You mean it's like 100 verses, can't you turn to one?
Right?
And here's the thing.
And listen, I love my brothers because they've been deceived.
What did we see about the end times?
Deception.
They've been deceived.
The last 100 years, they've been deceived, okay?
And I want them to listen to this sermon
and I don't want them to think,
man, Pastor Kevin's angry at me.
Listen, you're deceived.
I feel sorry for you.
You need to believe the Bible.
You need to go back and believe the word of God.
Your pastor tells you, you gotta believe the Bible, okay?
But right now, you'll believe in your pastors.
You'll believe in your Bible college lecturers.
You'll believe in J. Dwight Pentecost.
Where's the verse?
Where's one verse?
Give me one.
At least I've got the 1,000 years in the one day
for the 6,000 years of creation, right?
You had a context one.
Give me something.
Can't be done.
Give me something.
Anyway, sorry, what was I up to?
The nature of the church.
No, no, sorry, not that one.
The distinction.
So these two groups cannot be united into one.
And then they say this.
The extent of the Bible,
so this is why they can't be united into one.
The extent of the biblical revelation.
See, for Israel, the Bible,
so this is a pretty big book, right?
For Israel, nearly four-fifths of the Bible
and for the church, about one-fifth.
Man, you're like,
I'm struggling to read the Bible cover to cover.
I'm glad to tell you,
you don't need to read one-fifth of it, right?
Now you've read it cover to cover
because that's only for you for the church.
What nonsense.
You know what?
Nonsense, right?
2 Timothy 3.16.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God
and is profitable for doctrine,
for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness
that the man of God may be perfect,
freely furnished unto all good works.
All of it, okay?
All of it's for us, not just one-fifth.
Second point, the divine purpose.
Israel, listen to this.
How heretical is this?
Now I don't know if he means it,
but it sounds heretical.
The divine purpose between Israel and the church.
Israel, the earthly promises of the covenants,
that's for them,
and the church, the heavenly promises in the gospel.
The gospel's not for the Jews?
The gospel's not for Israel?
Romans 1.16.
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,
for it is the power of God unto salvation
to everyone that believeth,
to the Jew first,
and also to the Greek.
Listen, the gospel's for the Jews, okay?
For the Greek, for the Gentiles, for everybody.
What do you mean?
You were creating this,
this JW Pentecost creating distinctions?
You're telling us something.
You're telling me Jesus can't do,
Jesus cannot save the Jews and the Gentiles
by the same gospel.
Now I don't know if he means that,
but that's what it sounds like.
Number three, the seed of Abraham.
Israel, the physical seed
of whom some become a spiritual seed.
Church, a spiritual seed.
Is that right?
The seed of Abraham.
Is the seed of Abraham Israel physically
and the church spiritually?
Kind of some truth to that a little bit,
but is that really the point that the Bible makes
when it comes to a literal reading of the Bible?
No, it says Galatians 3, 16.
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
He saith not to seeds as of many,
but as of one and to thy seed,
which is Jesus Christ.
Oh, which is Christ.
That's the seed.
Did you miss Galatians three,
which just tells us plain,
literally what the seed is?
It's Jesus.
It's not the physical nation of Israel.
It's not the church,
whatever version of church they've got here.
The seed is Jesus.
And then if we're in Jesus Christ in verse 28,
there is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither bond nor free,
there is neither male nor female,
for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's,
then are ye Abraham's seed,
and heirs according to the promise.
Does it sound like physical and spiritual seed?
No, we're all one in Christ Jesus.
We're all one.
A seed because of Christ, okay?
Skips over that, skips over that.
And I'm not gonna keep reading this.
I got a lot to cover, let's move on.
The next one, the doctrine of imminence.
This is another reason they believe
in the pre-Trib rapture.
The doctrine of imminence.
What's imminence?
Christ can come back at any moment,
is what they believe.
Okay, so let's have a look.
There's many verses here
that he says teach about the imminence,
imminent return of Christ.
Christ can come back at any moment.
It says here,
the church was told to live in the light
of the imminent coming of the Lord
to translate them in his presence.
So apparently we're told to live in light
of an imminent coming.
Now I do believe, and I taught this,
that we are told to live in light of his coming,
but imminent coming at any moment,
you know, could come back in two seconds.
Could come back after this sermon,
could come before this, you know,
before this day ends.
Is that what the Bible teaches?
And so they've got some verses here.
Let's have a look at the first two,
because I don't have time to go through all of them.
The first one for proof is John 14 verse two.
John 14 verse two and three,
which reads,
in my Father's house,
these are the words of Jesus,
are many mansions.
If you were not so, I would have told you,
I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again and receive you unto myself,
that where I am, there ye may be also.
Well, I don't know.
It's meant to say something about imminent coming.
He's coming back at any moment.
Wasn't there?
Oh, but you gave me a reference.
Brethren, listen, the Bible college student
reads this imminent coming of Christ.
Oh man, look at all these references.
Christ is coming back at any moment.
How many of them do you think
will turn to those passages and read it and prove it?
Was there an imminent coming in that passage?
Was there a coming of Christ?
Yes.
Was there an imminent coming at any moment?
No.
It's a lie.
It's deception.
What's the next one they've got?
Acts 1, 11, which says,
which also said ye men of Galilee,
why stand ye gazing up into heaven?
This same Jesus which is taken up from ye into heaven
shall so come in like manner
as ye have seen him go into heaven at any moment.
Oh, no, it's not there.
You know, it could be before this day ends.
No, it wasn't there.
It's just saying Jesus Christ is coming back.
Amen.
Jesus Christ is coming back,
but these verses don't speak anything
about an imminent return.
Listen, these are arguments for his position
of a pre-trib rapture.
The verses he's using don't even teach what he's saying.
I mean, that doesn't surprise us, right?
Doesn't surprise us, but listen, this is a textbook.
You think there'd be something decent in here
about the pre-trib, and here's what's funny about that.
You can look at it later.
Pre-tribulation rapture theory.
I think he knows.
I think he knows, you know, something's not quite right.
Yeah, let's just call this a theory.
All right, let's keep going.
The work of the restrainer.
Now, I'm gonna hurry up.
Let me just see what I'm up to.
Oh no, I'm almost done.
All right, I'll finish up on this one.
The work of the restrainer, point number 10.
The work of the restrainer.
Can you please go to 2 Thessalonians chapter two,
which is what we read?
2 Thessalonians chapter two, verse seven.
The work of the restrainer, verse number seven.
The Bible reads, for the mystery of iniquity
doth already work, only he who now let
a fool let until he be taken out of the way.
So there's a he that needs to be taken out of the way.
Okay, let's just keep that in mind.
And then shall the wicked be revealed.
And that wicked is the beast, is the antichrist, yes.
Whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth
and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
Amen, awesome.
So who's this person that needs to be taken out of the way?
Well, I'm glad I've got this textbook to tell me.
Okay, so the work of the restrainer
in 2 Thessalonians chapter two.
He writes here, it would seem that the only one,
and it's funny how he says it,
it would seem that the only one
who could do such a restraining ministry
would be the Holy Spirit.
As long as the Holy Spirit is resident within the church,
which is his temple.
Anyway, this restraining work will continue
and the man of sin cannot be revealed.
It is only when the church, the temple is removed
that this restraining ministry ceases
and lawlessness can produce the lawless one
or the wicked one as we read there, okay.
So he's saying it would seem the one
that's taken out of the way is the Holy Spirit.
Now, I'm a literal reader of the word of God.
So we go to that passage and you can read it
in your own time, read it.
Guess what?
The Holy Spirit's not mentioned in that passage at all.
It's not mentioned.
Okay, so then we're left with,
well, what's it talking about, right?
And then we talk about context.
Have you heard preachers say,
stay, keep to the context, go back to the context.
Let's go to the context.
Holy Spirit's not mentioned.
Well, I guess you seemed wrong, brother.
J. Dwight Pentecost, it was wrong.
You know, you're, you know,
and then look, this man's passed,
this man passed away, I think about five years ago
and he died at like 99.
He's an old man, okay.
Seems like a decent guy.
Again, I've not really studied his life.
From what I read about the gospel,
it sounded okay to me.
I didn't see any major issues with it,
but I'm not necessarily saying this guy's saved.
I really don't know, okay.
I'm saying this is the book that was given to me
for Bible college.
Now I didn't go to Bible college.
I did a course through my local church
and we had to buy this book,
but I was actually given a copy.
My pastor's copy gave me,
my pastor gave me his copy so I could read through it
and that's the first time I read through it
and so I have read it through twice.
I read it through him
and then when I did the course in my church,
I read through it again.
And so, well, what's the context?
What do we get out of this, okay?
Look at verse number six.
Let's just go back one verse.
2 Thessalonians 2 verse six.
And now we know what withholdeth
that he might be revealed in his time.
Look, the Apostle Paul is saying,
and now ye know.
He's just saying, look, I just finished telling you,
now you know who's withholding the wicked one
from being revealed.
What a strange thing to say we know
without and then, oh, it must be the Holy Spirit
when it's not even mentioned.
It's gotta come from the word of God, all right?
It's gotta come from the word of God
and what I'm saying to you, brethren,
this isn't difficult.
The only one that's in that context
is the Antichrist himself.
He's the only one.
Say, what does that mean?
Well, the Antichrist is a normal man, okay?
He's a normal man.
He needs to be taken out of the way
for the wicked one to be revealed.
So who's getting revealed?
Him again, but now as a wicked one,
now as a son of perdition, okay?
Now, how do you know that?
Well, this is why the Bible's so consistent.
Please go to Revelation chapter 17.
Revelation chapter 17.
Revelation 17 verse eight.
The beast, now again, the Bible uses the word beast
many times in the book of Revelation
to refer to the Antichrist.
Same person.
The beast that thou sawest was,
so in the past, and is not,
now the Bible uses this term
to talk about someone that's died.
He's no longer there, he's not.
And shall ascend out of the bottomless pit.
So he was and is not,
but is now ascending out of this pit.
This is like a resurrection.
This Antichrist is going to basically say,
he's Jesus Christ or some type of Messiah, okay?
He's gonna go for something similar, right?
And go into perdition, that's damnation.
And they that dwell on the earth shall wonder
whose names were not written in the book of life
from the foundation of the world,
and they behold the beast that was
and is not and yet is, all right?
He was, past, not, and yet is.
Why, because he's alive again.
He's gone through some type of death.
He's lived, died, and come back to life, okay?
And the people wonder at the beast, all right?
And now you can understand why they're gonna worship him,
because he's setting himself up to be this God
or this Jesus Christ.
Now go to Revelation 13, please.
Revelation chapter 13, verse three.
So who needs to be taken out of the way?
Well, the one that was.
Okay, and when the wicked is revealed, and yet is.
It's the same guy.
The same guy that gets taken out of the way
will then be, we'll have a look at this.
Revelation 13, verse three.
Revelation chapter 13, verse three.
And I saw one of his heads as it was wounded to death,
and his deadly wound was healed,
and all the world wondered after the beast.
There it is, they're wondering after, right?
That he's been healed from this, he's come back.
Look at this, verse number four.
And they worshiped the dragon
which gave power unto the beast.
And they worshiped the beast, saying,
who is like unto the beast?
Who is able to make war with him?
And there was given unto him,
this is now that he's come back from that death, right?
And there was given unto him a mouth
speaking great things and blasphemies,
and power was given unto him to continue
42 months, the next three and a half years,
he's given that power.
Say, what's this about?
Well, here's what's gonna happen, brethren.
When the antichrist is revealed, the wicked one,
he's gonna speak blasphemies against God.
But those blasphemies is a mouth that's given to him
by the power of the devil, the dragon.
Before that, he dies, he comes back to life,
people wonder who can make war,
they're amazed at this antichrist,
they worship him, they take his mark,
they worship the dragon,
and he continues for a space of 42 months.
That's the second half of the seven year period.
So who's taken it out of the way?
Regular, Joe, antichrist man dies,
comes back fully under the power
and the influence of the devil.
Now, I don't know if he's got the same senses as before,
or he's just like a puppet being used by the devil,
I don't really know.
But there's something different that takes place.
This is why that midst of the week is so important,
which the author says, oh, don't worry, it's all the same.
No, it's important, okay?
It's such an important understanding
of that final seven year period,
and many things revolve around that period of time,
and it changes the events,
and that's when he seeks blasphemies against God,
that's when he goes against the believers,
against the saints.
And so, brethren, I'm gonna leave it there.
On Wednesday, I'll continue this.
I wanna cover every argument, every argument.
Now, we went through 10 arguments, brethren.
Are you convinced of the preacher rapture?
Did I convince you?
I mean, I read the textbook.
Now you're educated.
Now I can give you a diploma, all right?
You can pass a test,
and you can believe in the preacher of rapture.
No, it's nonsense.
It's nonsense.
It's deception, you know?
I hate every false way.
This does not mean I hate the coming of Christ.
Man, I love that.
That's gonna be so awesome, and I love my brethren,
but I hate the fact that they're deceived.
And listen, there are many good pastors,
many great pastors that believe in the preacher of rapture.
I don't hate them either.
I understand.
I fully understand what they have to lose
if they change positions.
I had to lose certain things when I changed my position
from a pre-trib to a post-trib believer, okay?
And listen, I wasn't even that grounded
or invested in a ministry, you know?
At least when I started a ministry, I start fresh.
I start with the right doctrine on the end times.
These people have friendships.
These people have groups that if they step out of line
on this position, they will be rejected.
Are you really gonna break fellowship
and reject your brothers over a doctrine
where you have no verse?
Now, you want me to believe in a literal verse
that you apparently have that's never presented,
never given, just arguments.
Would you break fellowship of a brethren over that,
over something that's not even clearly taught in the Bible?
Listen, I will break fellowship over someone
that denies the return of Christ.
That's clear.
That's crystal clear, okay?
But a pre-trib believer breaking fellowship of brethren
that cannot see, trying to believe you
about the literal reading and you're not providing it,
that's ridiculous, you know?
And I can't wait to see this doctrine die,
the pre-trib rapture doctrine.
I can't wait for people to finally wake up believers
across this world and say,
we could go for the tribulation.
I need to get prepared.
I need to get busy for the Lord.
I need to get close to the Lord
because I might go through those difficulties.
And it's like, well, if I'm gonna go
through those difficulties, who cares about this world?
Let's go and serve the Lord.
And I reckon if our churches would just change
and stick to the Bible, all right,
and understand that we're gonna face persecution.
I have no doubt they're gonna be doing greater things
for God than they're doing right now.
They're gonna have a greater heart for the lost
than they do today.
They're gonna have a greater heart even for the Jews, okay?
Because they must be saved the same way,
believing in Jesus Christ as the rest of us.
And so, you know what?
I'm happy that I've got pastor friends
that believe like I do.
Super happy about that, right?
And we need to start seeing change.
And I know, and if someone's listening to this,
a pastor, and you know, there are many pastors.
I know this, there are pastors in Australia
that their church constitutional,
their statement of faith says pre-trib rapture,
but they believe in a post-trib pre-wrath.
And it's just, stop being afraid.
Just stand up for the truth of God's word.
Prepare your church.
Prepare the people that God has put you over to shepherd.
Prepare them for the end times.
Okay, let's pray.