Dear Lord we thank you for this church Lord that you've given us and we thank you for pastor
We pray that you bless him and give him boldness as he preaches your word
and I pray that we're able to receive the truth from your word Lord and
Just give us readiness of ears and and and listening Lord and bless every aspect of this service. We pray this in Jesus name. Amen
man
Okay, we're in Proverbs chapter 23 this evening. Look down at your Bibles at verse 29
It says here who hath woe who hath sorrow who hath contentions who hath babbling?
Who hath wounds without cause who hath redness of eyes they that tarry long at the wine they they go to see mix wine
Look not thou upon the wine when it is red when it giveth its color in the cup when it moveth itself
All right at the last it biteth like a serpent and stingeth like an adder
Thine eyes shall behold strange women and thine heart shall utter perverse things
Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea or as he that lieth upon the top of a mass
They have stricken me shalt thou say and I was not sick they have beaten me and I felt it not
When shall I awake I will seek it yet again and the time of my sermon this evening is Christian
Why knows Christian why knows or another title could be the case for alcohol consumption now?
Let me just start off by saying that this is this sermon is not for the faint of heart
Okay
and the reason I say that is because you know Christianity just in general and a lot of Christians out there have
Advocated for alcohol consumption. They're for drinking beer. They're for drinking alcohol. They're for drinking liquor and
You know not a lot of pastors actually get up and actually talk about why it's wrong to drink alcohol
Why it's actually sinful it's detrimental to your health because they're afraid that might offend someone in their church
Who's actually drinking alcohol now, obviously, that's not real love
Amen
Because a person who actually loves you will actually tell you the truth no matter how harsh it is or no matter what spirit
They're telling you in they're willing to give you what the Word of God says
Rather than to just risk offending you and say well, I'm like, I don't want to offend this person
And so I'm just not gonna teach what the Bible says about it. No, I'm gonna give you the truth tonight
I'm gonna tell you what the Bible says and I'm gonna show you beyond a shadow of a doubt tonight
The drinking alcohol is sinful drinking alcohol is wicked
Drinking alcohol is of the devil and every single Christian and every single young person in the church. Stay away from alcohol
It'll destroy your life it'll ruin your marriage it'll destroy your kids it'll make you a loser
And in fact, that's one of the reasons I'm calling this Christian winos
Okay, because why no it's not a necessary word that people use today
You know people consider it to be kind of like a degrading word and it's just you know
It's an old-school word, but we need to bring that word back. Amen and not just call
Oh, you know, they're just like a little a little wine every once in a while, you know with their friends
No, they're winos. Okay wine as a person with the Bible also refers to as a drunkard someone who drinks alcohol
Whether literal or a lot, you know
If you're drinking alcohol at all if the alcohol is touching your lips and you're consuming it the Bible says you're a drunkard
Okay
The Bible considers you to be a wino a drunkard and that's what you are now you say why preach on a subject like this?
well, you know, it's important to talk about this subject because you know alcohol is still a big thing in 2022 and you know
A lot of people drink alcohol Christians. Unfortunately have been duped into thinking that you know, it's permissible
It's okay to do just in moderation
Jesus turned the water into wine and all these other arguments that they bring up
but another reason why I want to preach on this is because of the fact that as of recently
There's this YouTube channel called inspiring philosophy. Let me just say this. It's anything but inspiring. Okay, and he essentially made a video
Criticizing one of my videos where I talk about how you should not drink alcohol now, let me just say this
Why would you discourage anybody?
Right. Why would you want to why would any Christian?
Slam another Christian who's telling other Christians you shouldn't drink alcohol cuz it's gonna ruin your life
You know, that's a pretty evil thing to do
Okay
but he made these videos and he said Jesus drink alcohol and let me give you this biblical evidence and he was just kind of
Mocking me in this video. And so I made a couple videos just kind of refuting what he said
But tonight is the culmination of the information that I've collected in the Bible. Okay to show you beyond a shadow of a doubt that
Alcohol consumption is wicked. It's sinful. And if you're drinking alcohol, you better quit. Okay, you need to throw that bottle away
You need to sober up and stop being a Christian wino. All right now, let's talk about proper chapter 23 for a minute
By way of introduction. I want you to notice in verse 29. It tells us here. Who's the person who has whoa
What is whoa, you know, they're they're sorrowful
They're cursed. Whoa would often synonymous with curse, you know who has contentions
Who's that person who's constantly fighting who have babblings, you know, the person who just doesn't make sense
They're just kind of babbling on who has wounds without a cause
Who has redness of eyes and look what it says they that Terry long at the wine
They that go to seek mix wine now
Let's use some common sense here is the Bible telling us that if we look at alcohol, we're gonna get all these things
Like we're if we literally look at alcohol, we're gonna receive all these things
No, what this is telling us. Is that a person who makes alcohol their focus?
Right who Terry's at the alcohol looks upon the wine
Entertains the possibility of drinking the wine will eventually step over that line of temptation and actually drink it and bring upon themselves
Whoa, sorrow contentions babblings wounds without a cause and redness of eyes
So what the Bible is teaching us here is them in order for us to avoid these things
We're we need to make sure that we didn't even go up to the line of temptation
You understand look what it says in verse 31 look not thou upon the wine
Everyone looking at that when it is red when they give it this color in the cup when it move it itself
All right, what is God telling us stay away from even being tempted to sin?
Stay away from even looking upon it when it begins to ferment why because if you are away from the presence of alcohol
If especially if you're tempted by it
The likelihood of you actually consuming it is a lot smaller
Okay, you know if you're not in the presence of alcohol if you don't keep alcohol in your house
If you're not hanging out at the bar, you know, just drinking your sprite or whatever
More than likely you're not gonna give in to the sin of drinking alcohol because of the fact that you're not in its presence
So what God is simply stating here is that we need to stay away from temptation
Because of the fact that when we stay away from temptation we place ourself in a safeguarded position
Where we're more than likely not going to drink alcohol, okay
He goes on to say verse 32 at the last that biteth like a serpent and stingeth like an adder now
What is this referring to?
What saying that when you drink alcohol the conclusion of that is that it's gonna be detrimental to your health
So just as a serpent bites you an adder and Jex within you it's poison
It's venom should I say, you know, and that's detrimental to your health in like manner God is saying alcohol is detrimental to your health
It's toxic to your health. Okay, and look any doctor can tell you
Liquor is bad for you
Health wise okay, forget what they think about what the Bible says just from a health perspective
Anybody could tell you it's bad for your liver. It's bad for your brain. It'll destroy your life. It'll make you an idiot
It'll make you a loser. It'll give you cirrhosis of the liver
You say you shouldn't say that I have an uncle that passed away from cirrhosis of the liver
Because he could not put the bottle down it destroyed his life he left his children behind this is the reality folks, okay
So at the last it bit him like a serpent and it stung him like an adder
He says in verse 33
Thine eyes shall behold strange women now. Do I really need to expound what that means?
Don't we all know that the byproduct of drinking alcohol, you know, obviously alcohol is typically found in places of ill repute
Right
Bars and clubs. Well, you know, there's a reason why they offer alcohol at those places
It's because of the fact that there's women of ill repute there as well
And the Bible says that when someone drinks alcohol their eyes shall behold strange women
So this is tying in adultery fornication
Sexual sins to drink in alcohol and this is consistent throughout the whole Bible
The first time the alcohol is mentioned in the Bible, it's not mentioned as a blessing
First time alcohol is mentioned in the Bible is when Noah drank the fruit of the vine got drunk and was raped by his son
Incest was committed with the first person to be drunk in the Bible that was recorded incest was committed. How about lot?
incest was also committed when his daughters got him drunk and
committed incest with him in order to
Have seed with him have children with him, you know, it doesn't seem like you know alcohol is a good thing
It says thine eyes shall behold strange women
Look what it says and thine heart shall utter perverse things. I
Mean, I think all of us can attest to a time that we've known someone then when they get a little drunk their tongue gets
a little loose
When they get a little drunk
They get a little perverse in their speech they get a little bold
They get a little confident and they start uttering perverse
They would typically say things that are they would say things that they typically would not say when they're sober
because alcohol ignites you and makes you act like a fool and
Causes you to utter perverse things. Look what verse 34 says. Yea, that shall be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea
Why does he say that? Well, if you're in the midst of the sea, you're just kind of like
Well, he's saying that that's how you look like when you're drunk
Imbalanced just kind of all over the place
He says or is he that lieth on the top of a mast. It's like you being on a boat
Okay on the top of a mass and you're just feeling the waves going up and down
There's no equilibrium to your physical body because you're drunk
Verse 35 they have stricken me shout thou saying and I was not sick. They have beaten me now listen to this
There's plenty of people out there that have gotten drunk and mouth off to the wrong person and got beat up because of it
And he says they're they're stricken me thou shall say I was not sick they have beaten me and I felt it not
And they wake up to like man. Why do I have all these lumps on my face?
It was like oh, you don't remember what happened last night
He's like why I knew it not
He says when shall I awake look what it says I will seek it yet again
What is he saying after all the consequences of drinking alcohol being beat up uttering perverse things
You know
Beholding strange women being stricken being beat
He says when I wake up. I'm gonna do it all over again
What is this an alcoholic?
What is this a wino?
Because any normal human being when they suffer the consequences of their actions
They say well, you know point a got me to point B and to point C
So therefore I should stay away from point A that's like the logical conclusion that people should come to
But the wino would say point A got me to point B into point C. I will see point A once again
Alcohol will ruin your life and I will preach against alcohol until the day that I die because I have
Obviously aside from the fact that the Bible teaches and condemns alcohol
I've known people and I've had family members who have been destroyed by alcohol
I've seen what alcohol can do to people and especially those who claim they do it in moderation
It's a bunch of nonsense folks anybody who tells you they drink in moderation. That's just code for you know
I'll only drink a little bit in your presence, but behind closed doors. They're pounding a bottle. They're pounding all kinds of liquor
That's just an excuse to justify their sin. Okay?
Go to Proverbs chapter 20 if you would Proverbs chapter 20
Proverbs chapter 20
alcohol drinking alcohol so wicked in the Bible the first Corinthians 5 labels it as
One of the sins that could actually get you kicked out of church
Think about that those particular sins that can actually get you kicked out of church
railing can get you kicked out if you're an idolatry could get you kicked out if you're an
Extortion can get kicked out if you're committing fornication and you're not unrepentant of these things you can get kicked out
But if you are a drunkard the Bible says you can be excommunicated from the church
That's how strongly God feels about that according to 1st Corinthians 5 11
Okay, but look at Proverbs 20 verse 1 says wine is a mocker
Strong drink is raging listen to this and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise
So the person who says well strong drink is okay. Just a little bit a little bit of wine is okay
It's not bad. You're deceived my friend. You are deceived. You're deceived by your own lust you're deceived by your own desires
That's not what the Bible teaches the Bible commands us to be sober
Okay, and here's the thing folks. Let me just let you in on a little secret the Bible doesn't talk about being buzzed
Did you know the word buzzed or tipsy that is not found in the Word of God?
You said what does the Bible use drunk?
Well, yeah, but that means like when you're really drunk no it uses drunkenness for any type of intoxication
When you're buzzed or you're tipsy you're intoxicated
What you're thinking about is like when someone's really intoxicated
But regardless if you have if you feel any of the effects of alcohol in your system
Whether if you want to call that tipsy or buzz or just absolutely smashed and drunk the Bible just refers to that as drunkenness
Well, the Bible commands us to be sober at all times
Because of the fact that we have an adversary which is known as the devil who as a lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour
So Satan's constantly looking for us to trip up. He's constantly looking for us to not pay attention
He's constantly looking for us to let our guard down which is done by alcohol for example
To attack okay
now obviously this this sermon would apply as far as the the
Aspect of being sober would apply to any type of mind-altering drug. You can apply this to weed to shrooms
To now, you know vaping that actually gets you high
Okay, any type of mind-altering drug this applies to but I'm focusing primarily on the subject of alcohol
Okay, turn with me if you would you're in proper still go to chapter 26. Go to chapter 26. This is all introduction here
Now it's unfortunate because you know, this should be just as clear as day
Pastors or people who teach God's Word should be able to see this because the job of a pastor listen to this is to actually
study the Bible
From cover to cover to know what the Word of God says
So it's sad when you see pastors
It's wicked
Should I say when you see pastors who claim to study the Bible and come to the conclusion that alcohol is permissible?
Okay, let me read you from Micah chapter 2 verse 11. It says if a man walking in the spirit and falsehood do lie
Saying listen to this. I will prophesy unto thee of wine and strong drink
He shall even be the prophet of this people
So the Bible's warning us and telling us look if someone is coming to you telling you that strong drink also known as alcohol is
Permissible the Bible is telling us that he's coming to you in falsehood
So in other words, it should be a giant red flag anytime you see pastor saying hey
it's okay to have a little bit of wine with some cheese a little bit of wine with your dinner a
Little bit of wine cooler or a little bit of beer. Just don't get drunk. The Bible says he's coming to you in falsehood and
He shall be you you point out a church
They're just constantly consumes alcohol, you know has a bar at their church with which does exist by the way
I'll point you to his pastor. That's also a drunkard. Okay, and
We shouldn't get our doctrine from winos
I
Mean, would you go to some wino on the street who's destroyed his life and destroyed his marriage and destroyed his children?
His bad habits and his sinful acts of consuming alcohol and say hey, how do you think I should like direct my life?
You know, can you give me some advice on how to be successful in life? You wouldn't do that
So why would you go to a so-called pastor and ask him if he's consuming alcohol as well? Oh
Because he smells better and it looks better
Look at the Bible says in Proverbs 26 verse 9 as the Thor goeth up into the hand of a drunkard
so as a parable in the mouth of fools and
If the Bible telling it is telling us that only a fool would commit the sin of being drunken
According to the Bible you can't trust the parable that's coming out of his mouth. Why because it's perverse
He's not gonna be able to discern what the Word of God is saying good Ephesians chapter 5
Ephesians chapter number 5 so I made these videos and this person made some videos, you know, I'm trying to refute
my teaching what the Bible says about
alcohol and
He obviously was clearly offended because he drinks a lot of alcohol and in fact the videos that he made
He's literally drinking like a huge glass of beer
He and then like I don't know a couple minutes after he's making the video. It's like halfway down. He's like, oh man
I gotta top myself off
And he's like pouring more beer in there and he's drinking more and then he pulls out like a glass of whiskey and he's just
Like drink to that Cheers and all I mean he's drinking like three different types of alcohol on the video. Oh
But he's just trying to be funny folks if he's doing that on camera just think about what he does off camera
If he's willing to do that for tens of thousands of people to behold and to see
Just think about what he's willing to do when there's no eyes around
But I'm gonna give you tonight the arguments that winos use
To justify their addiction and the wino that I'm referring to is this guy? Okay, this guy who made these videos
I'm gonna give you three of his arguments
That he is given and I'm just gonna completely demolish them. Okay, so number one argument number one
Why it's okay to drink alcohol why it's okay to drink a little bit of wine
Argument number one
It's okay to drink
Just not to get
Drunk, how many ever heard that before? Hey, you know, I'm pastor me. He's a little too
That's a little too much, you know everything in moderation
Right. Have you heard that?
Everything in moderation. We can't be excessive about everything, you know everything in moderation, you know, the Bible doesn't condemn it at all
It's okay to drink just not to get drunk now. Where are they getting this from?
Well from their own wicked heart first and foremost, okay
So what they do is they take this from their own wicked heart
Then they look for verses in the Bible to try to justify that and this is the passage that they'll use to try to justify
Look at Ephesians 5
verse 15
It's a seed then that you walk circumspectly
Not as fools, but as wise redeeming the time because the days are evil
Wherefore be not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is
Verse 18. Here's the key passage and be not drunk with wine
Wherein is excess but be filled with the Spirit
Now this is their favorite verse to use
This is essentially the quintessential verse the Christian winos like to use to justify their drinking
Now, let me just start off by saying and I'm gonna keep saying it is that wine in the Bible is used interchangeably to describe both
non-alcoholic and alcoholic beverages and I'm gonna prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt later on in the sermon and
This is one of them. Okay
So this is the verse that they use be not drunk with wine
We're in his excess, but be filled with the Spirit. You see God doesn't want you to drink excessively
Because it says it right there not in it wearing his excess. He wants you to do it in moderation
You don't have to have temperance
You know just a couple beers, you know, just get a little buzz don't get all crazy about it
Just a little bit, you know God condemns drunkenness, but he doesn't condemn drinking. So this is the verse that they use
So let me do this. Let's pretend for a second. Let's just let's just let's just make believe right now
Okay
That this is referring to alcohol
Okay, we're gonna make believe that this is referring to alcohol and that alcohol is permissible for just a minute
Okay, so let's read it the way they would read this particular passage. All right verse 18. Let's read it again
Be not drunk with wine
wearing his excess and
What does the next part say but drink in moderation?
Is that what it says
So where they get that from
The way they read this is be not drunk with wine wearing his excess, but just drink in moderation
Folks it says but be filled with the spirit and notice it doesn't say be filled with the spirits
Be filled with ethanol and alcohol and you know whiskey and Jack Daniels and
It doesn't say that all it says is be not drunk with wine wearing his excess, but be filled with the spirit
so the alternative
To drinking wine and excess is not to drink in a moderation
The alternative to drinking wine and excess is to be filled with the spirit
This is not an instructional guide on how much alcohol you should consume
Which is what the wine has used this for they say well
You know, this is just a perfect verse right here to make sure I can only pound a little bit of whiskey a little bit
Of Jack Daniels, but that's not what it says at all. All it's saying here is that instead of drinking wine and excess
You should be filled with the spirit now, I personally believe that this is referring to juice
because of the fact that it's saying instead of being filled with juice and excess in order to be jovial and
Happy and joyous because that's what juice actually does to you
I know that's hard for winos to believe because they need alcohol in order to be happy, but
You're not gonna believe this if I drink sparkling cider. I can have a good time
Oh
You're trying to make me believe that people have
Weddings and no alcohol involved we've had nine weddings at this church and not a single one had alcohol and we all had a great
time
We all had a gay old time
It's true
None of us and no one in here said hey
pastor
Where's the you know?
You got the flask on you pastor, you know, we're not in my office like
A sparkling cider makes you happy because of the fact that we don't need much as Christians to make us happy
We're content. We're satisfied with just the basics of life
You know, we don't need to get high, you know
There's people that literally when they wake up they have to drink alcohol to be happy right to even operate normally
Don't tell me that doesn't exist
There's people that wake up in the morning and they have to get high in order to function in their life
That exists folks. We don't need that. You said what do you do? What do you do? I drink like a cup of coffee
I read my Bible. I go talk to my wife. I go play with my children
That's what I do to start off my day
Be not drunk with wine
We're in his excess
But be filled with the spirit the alternative to drink in wine and excess was never it doesn't say in moderation
It says you should be filled with the spirit instead and look if this is referring to alcohol then answer me this
Is drinking alcohol in moderation?
Will that help you to walk circumspectly?
Will that help you to be wise?
There's drinking alcohol in moderation help you to redeem the time because the days are evil
Does it help you to understand what the will of the Lord is?
No, because as we're gonna see later on alcohol perverts judgment, right?
But you know what does help with those factors is being filled with the spirit right when you're filled with the spirit
You walk circumspectly in other words you walk carefully in your Christian life
You are wise you can redeem the time and you can understand what the will of the Lord is
Those things do not are not a result of you drinking alcohol in moderation, right?
No, it's okay to drink
Just not to get drunk, okay
So think about this, okay
Because again what they're saying is drinking a little bit is not sinful
And drinking a little bit is not detrimental to your health
It's not sinful and it's not detrimental to your health. It's only when you can become drunk that it becomes sinful. Okay
So why don't you give alcohol to children?
Oh what now
Well
Well, what if it's not sinful?
Why don't you give it to a child?
If it's not sinful if it's not detrimental to someone's health, why don't you give it to a child?
Why don't you give it to a kid? Well, because you know, it's just it's just what oh, yeah, that's right. It's sinful
Well, that's right. It's wicked. That's right. It'll destroy their bodies
Oh, yeah. Oh now you didn't really think about that now, did you?
Okay, how about this
If just a little bit of alcohol
Is not sinful if just a little bit of alcohol is not detrimental to your health. Why don't you give it to a pregnant lady?
Yeah
Oh, oh you didn't really think about that now, did you
Yeah, ask a doctor if if a pregnant lady can have just a little bit of alcohol
A developing baby is exposed to the same concentration as the mother during pregnancy
So you can't tell me just a little bit. There's nothing wrong with just a little bit
Oh, that's interesting because that'll actually destroy a baby
within a mother's womb
There is no known safe amount of alcohol consumption for women who are pregnant
Including early in pregnancy when a woman may not know that she is pregnant and here's the thing, you know
Drunkenness or drinking alcohol in the bible, you know, you notice that the bible doesn't place an age limit to when you can drink
There's no age limit right why because of the fact that it's wrong for all ages
The reason there's no age limit to drink and alcohol in the bible is because god just expects for no one to drink it
No matter how old you are how young you are
Well, how come it says to drink wine because the places where it permits for you to drink wine is referring to juice
So let me ask you this can your child apply ephsians chapter 5 verse 5 verse 18 according to your
Doctrine no because it'd be wrong for them to drink alcohol in moderation as well
Checkmate
The developing brain is particularly vulnerable to the effects of alcohol it can destroy a child's brain
Okay. Now again, what I believe this is referring to is just juice
It's referring to juice and look anybody can tell you that wine in times past was also referred to as juice
That's a that's a that's that's just like common knowledge. It's common sense in this common knowledge. Okay?
This is why in acts chapter two
When the disciples are preaching the word of god the people looked at them and said they began to mock them and said these men
Are full of new wine
Now, let me ask you when you're drunk
Are you just able to just preach god's word and speak in different languages and just expound god's word?
No, the bible says you utter perverse things
That the effects of alcohol is that you utter perverse things that your judgment is impaired
That your judgment is impaired
the reason they say they're full of new wine is because they were so
vibrant and joyous and happy about it because new wine
You know the effects of new wine referring to just juice that's just taken out of a grape
A cluster of grapes could just make you happy because there's sugar in it
I mean you want to make your kid happy give them some sugar and you see them happen now they'll crash
They're after but they'll be happy they'll give you hugs and kisses because they got this sugar high
right
Turn with me if you would go to isaiah chapter five if you would isaiah chapter five
You know, how much is moderation then
How much is moderation if you can drink a little bit of alcohol just in moderation? Well, how much is that?
Well, it's different for you. It's different for me. It's different for all of us. Well, here's the thing because this the same guy
You know, he was saying this
He was letting us know, you know how much alcohol he could hold
He's like I can drink like three beers in a two-hour span and i'll only be buzzed
Okay, and he's probably right about that
He could probably drink more than that right and only be buzzed. I'll be honest. That's that's probably his his ability his tolerance
Now what is he admitting to here? Well, here's the thing is that
A person who has never drunk any alcohol in their life or should I say has abstained from drinking alcohol?
For a long period of time if you gave that individual one can of beer
They would be smashed
What I mean is like they'll be drunk
Because they they don't have a tolerance to that alcohol
It'll hit their system fast and they will become drunk
Drunk
Now remember the argument that they're posing it's okay to drink drinking is not sinful
It's when you become drunk that's sinful now that same individual who drinks one can of alcohol and gets drunk if they can
You know if they're faithful
They got some discipline in their life
And they just drink a little bit more and a little bit more every day, you know, what's gonna happen is they're gonna build tolerance
to that alcohol
To the point where you know a beer won't get them smashed. They're not gonna pass out. They're not gonna act a fool
They'll just be a little tipsy a little buzzed
And then they can get to a point where they're just as strong as this guy
Where he can have three beers in a matter of two hours and not be drunk at all. Just want to be a little buzzed
Now again, let me remind you of the argument. It's okay to drink drinking is not sinful drunkenness is sinful
But by that rationale you're stating that you have to sin first
In order to build up the tolerance to only become tipsy and buzzed checkmate
So is it right for anybody
To just go ahead and sin first and just hey, we need to make sure in order for you to become as godly as I am
You know where you can enjoy the because they say that alcohol is like a gift from god
How wicked is that and think about this folks? You know how many people out there?
Sincerely, they they're alcoholics and they struggle with alcohol
It's a sad thing, you know, they struggle with alcohol. It's a temptation to them. It'll destroy their lives
How do you think that person feels when this individual says that alcohol is a blessing from god
They're like i'm not even worthy enough to have this blessing because i'm such a sin. I'm just a sinful person
I can't even handle my alcohol. I can't even I can't even handle the gift from god
This this this wonderful thing that god has given to us folks alcohol is not a gift from god
Okay, the bible calls it the poison of asps
Poison of dragons. That's what the bible calls it
It's satan's substitution
for juice
So think about that, you know
You have to become drunk first in order to even build up tolerance
To the point where you can now you can tolerate now you can handle your liquor. Well, look what the bible says
in isaiah chapter 5 verse 11
Woe unto them verse 11 woe unto them that rise up early in the morning
That they may follow strong drink that continue until night till wine inflame them look at verse 22
You
Woe unto them that are mighty
to drink wine
And men of strength to mingle strong drink
What is this? This is talking about the person who's able to tolerate?
large amounts of alcohol
And he's he's not god's not looking at it. He's like you're blessed man
You're actually being a good steward of your body because you can handle the alcohol this gift that i've given to you that not everyone
can handle
You know, you this is you're the man
No, he's saying woe unto you when you are strong to drink strong drink strong drink referring to alcohol
Why because you're you're past the point?
You've opened that door
You've gotten drunk and now you're addicted to it. So now you're strong to and you know what this is common today, isn't it?
The frat parties and the young guys and how much beer can you get without getting drunk and oh, man
You can't even hold your liquor down. This guy's a newbie. He can't even hold his liquor down
Folks the guy who can hold his liquor down. First of all, it's filled with so much estrogen
There's nothing manly about a man overdosing on estrogen
Allow women to have estrogen a man is not supposed to overdose on estrogen my friends
Which is why you know
It's hypocritical for these billboards to have these guys with six packs and big shoulders drinking a beer
Why don't you show what they really look like if they're consuming alcohol
They would have man boobs a beer belly and yellow eyes
Like oh man, this is kind of rude, you know, I don't think folks it's necessary
The bible says how forcible are right words and the bible tells us that we're to make sin look exceeding sinful
In order to protect your children in order to protect the next generation from touching this stuff and destroying their lives
I don't want your kids. I don't want my kids. I don't want the church members to end up like the people off the freeway
Just drunk off their hinder parts
And all they're doing is begging for money so they can become more drunk and just destroy their lives
You don't want that for your kids
So why would you want them to drink in moderation?
It's nonsense folks
Go to isaiah 28 if you would isaiah 28
Isaiah 28
You say why then you know, why did does god permit the drinking of wine because it's referring to juice
And why do these people believe this well look at isaiah 28 verse 7
But they also have aired through wine
And through strong drink are out of the way
The priests and the prophet have aired through strong drink
They are swallowed up of wine. They're out of the way through strong drink they air in vision
They stumble in judgment look at verse 8 for all tables are full of vomit and filthiness so that there is no place clean
It doesn't sound like alcohol
Helps your judgment at all. It sounds like it messes up your vision and impairs your judgment destroys your life
Go with me if you would to genesis chapter 40 genesis chapter 40
And by the way, why are these pastors
drinking alcohol
When the bible says that the qualifications of a pastor is a person not given to wine, right?
So, how do you explain that if you want to make that permissible for other people in your church?
Okay, but you know, one of the qualifications for pastors is that they they're not given to wine
And yet some of these pastors actually have bars at their church
wicked
And so, you know this whole
Argument drink just a little bit. Just don't become drunk complete farce. It's false. It's stupid
It doesn't hold up in god's court, right? Okay argument number two
Non-alcoholic wine didn't exist in the bible, bro
And I promise you this is an argument that people post
Non-alcoholic wine didn't exist in the bible because you know
People will go great lengths to justify their sin
They'll go to great lengths to justify it even to the point where they're willing to just pervert the bible to fit their you know
agenda
and this guy basically said because I was like I was explaining the fact that
Wine is used interchangeably in the bible to describe both alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages and he just laughed. He just laughed me to scorn
He was like
this guy
Non-alcoholic wine didn't exist in the bible
And this is this is his argument. He says because by the time
They picked the grapes and put it into vessels and put it in a car and the donkey carried it to the to the wedding
At cana it would have already fermented under those temperatures and other those conditions
Modern technology didn't exist in those days to preserve the juice so that it would not ferment. Okay
This is what he said
He said the technology to preserve wine so that it wouldn't ferment did not exist. So you expect me to believe
That people could build pyramids
Aqueducts
War machines
But just like how do we keep this from like fermenting though?
It's like I don't know man
Let's just build a third pyramid though
We at least we mastered this though, you know
So
This guy must think so
Like just doesn't really think highly of people in bible times
And here's the reason why he doesn't because he also believes in evolution, right?
So he he views people in the bible as like cavemen or something. Oh
And they're just picking grapes and then just like they're wait for it they can't drink it on the spot
So
They wait four to twelve four, uh, excuse me twelve twelve to fourteen weeks
Which is the amount of time it takes to ferment wine
And then they drink it like that. It's like nonsense and let me just say this. Let me just point out the obvious
They didn't need modern technology
to keep juice from fermenting
Because there's people today
That don't use modern technology
to keep juice from fermenting
Because he's thinking they didn't have refrigerators back then
It's like are you seriously gonna pull folks I remember going to a camp, okay
When I was a kid, I brought a I bought a six-pack of of cokes
Okay
And but there there's no there's no refrigerator. So you know what I did? I took the cokes, you know, just common sense
And I went to the river
And I put it in the river. I surrounded it by stones and I picked it up the next day. It was freezing cold
Oh, I'm sorry, I went like this
You don't need modern technology to preserve things folks
So his argument is that
By the time you went through this whole process to get juice
It would just already ferment
Okay, it's just like hurry. Hurry. Hurry. Oh
Oh
Man and they're just like, oh man, and they're just like and it's just like would ferment like right off the bat or something
Like in 12 weeks, they just couldn't figure out that they could drink it between that
You know in between that 12-week span and it would be completely fine
Or you know, just like crush grapes into a vessel and just drink it there
And but they didn't figure that out yet
They didn't know they can do that apparently
Well, look at genesis chapter 40 because this is a passage that I used
And it's funny because I quoted this passage this story in the video refuting that
Because he says juice didn't exist in bible times
So crazy, he says juice did not exist
And I quoted this passage and it's a passage about a man who had a dream about squeezing grapes into a vessel
And he said that was a dream that never happened
That's what he said
Now folks the videos that I was making they're like 60 second videos
They're short so I only have 60 seconds so I can't read the entire chapter
But i'm expecting for him to read the entire chapter
I'm expecting for anybody to just read the entire
But the guy just read the verse saw a dream. He's like, oh never happened. He's like, did you keep reading?
Let's read it look at verse five
So this is referring to
Pharaoh's baker and his cupbearer
Pharaoh was very upset with them
And he basically put him into prison, okay
And they're in prison with joseph
Okay, joseph the lord is with them and he's the interpreter of dreams
And so they have these dreams look at verse five it says and they dream to dream both of them
Each man is dreaming one night each man according to the interpretation of his dream the butler and the baker of the king of egypt
Which were bound in the prison and joseph came in unto them in the morning and looked upon them and behold they were sad
And he asked pharaoh's officers
That were with him in the ward of his lord's house saying wherefore look he so sadly today
And they said unto him we have dreamed the dream and there is no interpreter of it and joseph said unto them
Do not interpretations belong to god tell me them. I pray you
And the chief butler told his dream to joseph and said to him in my dream behold a vine was before me
And in the vine were three branches
And it was as though it butted and her blossom shot forth and the clusters thereof brought forth ripe grapes
And pharaoh's cup was in my hand
And I took the grapes listen to this pressed them into pharaoh's cup and I gave the cup into pharaoh's hand
So he didn't look he had better something better than modern technology because modern technology you need a juicer
He had a human being for a juicer
He's like forget the juicer just you do it
Your full-time job is to squeeze grapes into you know squeeze enough grapes into the vessel so I can just drink it like that
So I quoted this verse and he's just like
wrong
It was a dream
I'm, like you you gotta be kidding me
Let's keep reading
Verse 12 and joseph said unto him. This is the interpretation of it. The three branches are three days
Yet within three days shall pharaoh lift up thine head
And restore thee unto thy place and thou shall deliver pharaoh's cup into his hand
Listen to this after the former manner when thou wast his butler
So according to this guy
When he had this dream, he just dreamt up something that just didn't exist
Like this guy's silly. He's squeezing grapes into a cup to give it to him. That's not real juice doesn't exist
It's just a dream. What is he dreaming about? He's dreaming about a previous responsibility that he had
Right because that was his job and what happened guess what the dream came true
Hey dreams really do come true
Look at verse 20
And it came to pass the third day
Which was pharaoh's birthday
That he made a feast until all servants and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and of the chief baker among his servants
And he restored the chief butler unto his butler ship again and he gave the cup into pharaoh's hand
But he hanged the chief baker as joseph had interpreted to them
So here's a clear example of someone who's literally just squeezing grapes into someone's cup and giving it to them now look
Not everyone in bible times would probably have the resources to have this done
This is obviously a very wealthy man
Okay. In fact, no one today
Probably has someone to do that. In fact, i'm gonna i'm gonna see my wife would do that for me today
Can you just be my cup bearer and just squeeze it just to prove a point here?
But no one's out there hiring a person to do a full-time job of just squeezing grapes into a cup, right?
They have like a juicer or something like that
But go to go to number chapter six number chapter six
But that's a clear example right there of someone literally and by the way the one it didn't ferment when it hit the when it hit
the vessel
It's not like pharaoh's like he got it and he's just all right. He's like, what are you doing?
I gotta wait like 12 weeks
Why don't you just drink it now? Well, because whatever's in there now doesn't exist
Gotta wait 12 weeks
So again, his argument is that jews did not exist in those days, right
Jews never existed. Not a real thing. Non-alcoholic wine didn't exist, you know
Okay. Well, let's look at number six verse one. This is referring to the nazarite vow
It says in the lord speaking to moses saying speaking to the children of israel and saying to them
When either man or woman shall separate themselves to valve valve a nazarite to separate themselves unto the lord
He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink referring to alcohol
And shall drink no vinegar of wine or vinegar of strong drink listen to this neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes
Nor eat moist grapes or dried
Now when we think of wine today, we think of alcohol
But in those days, it's also referring to juice when we think of liquor today
We also think of alcohol, but this is simply referring to the liquid of the grape
So the command that was given to the nazarites was that if they took a nazarite vow
They were to abstain from these particular things, right?
And here's the thing is that here we see that he used to abstain from juice
Now you say well then why would he command for him to abstain from wine and strong drink if they couldn't drink wine or strong drink
Well, i'll tell you why because of the fact that he's telling him not only are you supposed to be separate from sin
But you're supposed to be separated from even those luxuries that you could possibly have such as juice
But you're abstaining from those things for a season
That's why he's telling him don't you can't eat grapes. You can't eat raisins. You can't eat moist grapes or dried
You can't eat juice and it's only for a limited time
Because once they fulfilled the vow they were able to do these things once again, but the point of the nazarite vow was that
You're separate from sin just like everyone else is
And then you're also separate from these particular things and to prove to prove that
Is the fact that even if you weren't a nazarite
Listen to this, even if you weren't a nazarite you were to abstain from touching unclean animals and beasts, right?
Right
Well that was later reiterated to the nazarite. Make sure you still don't touch those
unclean animals and beasts
Things that died of itself. You can't touch those things. So this is simply a reiteration
He's basically saying well aside from the fact that you're still supposed to abstain from alcohol
Now we're going to step it up in your standard and say you can't drink juice. Okay?
Now i'm going to do something really dirty here. Okay, i'm going to read from the modern versions of the bible
Okay, now we're a king james only church
And if you're curious as to why you can you can listen to my sermon
On the superiority of the king james bible and explain clearly why we use the king james bible here
And we reject all modern versions of the bible. Now the modern versions are
A lot of it's translated from corrupt texts
But not all of it is corrupted some of it actually is right with the king james bible
You can read it side by side some of it is still correct with the king james bible
And you know what? This is a passage that's actually correct with the king james bible
And the reason i'm even bringing this up is because of the fact that this guy
Who claims that juice does not exist nor is it found in the bible?
uses the esv
Okay, so let me read to you from the esv
Because you can see how someone could say liquor of grapes that's liquor that's that's alcohol
Stop trying to pervert god's word. That means alcohol. Okay, let me read it to you from your version
esv
He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink
He shall drink no vinegar made from wine or strong drink and shall drink and shall not drink any juice of grapes
Or eat grapes fresh or dry
That's from his version
So he claimed the juice does not exist in the bible. Well here it says don't drink any juice of grapes
Let me explain to you. Let me explain to you. Let me interpret that what it means in the hebrew grape juice
Let me read it to you from the niv
They must abstain from wine or other fermented drink
And must not drink vinegar made from wine or other fermented drink
They must not drink grape juice
Or eat grapes or raisins
Now the majority of churches that advocate for alcohol consumption use these versions of the bible
New king james version
Says here
He shall separate himself from wine and similar drink
He shall drink neither vinegar made from wine nor vinegar made from similar drink
Neither shall he drink any grape juice
Nor eat fresh grapes or raisins
So it says grape juice
So how would this person get around this claiming non-alcoholic wine did not exist juice does not exist
When their own version of the bible tells them
grape juice
I'll tell you why because of the fact that he doesn't read the bible, right?
Not even his own bible
Folks we actually read the king james bible
And let me say this, you know, the niv is the most popular bible on the market as far as people purchasing that bible
But the king james bible is the most widely read bible
So people who purchase the niv if they own an niv they don't read it
I'm talking about from cover to cover
They don't study. They don't read it. They read books about the bible
That's what they do. Whereas people who are typically king james only is actually read the king james bible
We have a bible reading calendar we read a cover to cover genesis all the way through revelation reread the entire thing
So this guy's like a non-alcoholic wine did not exist in those days juice didn't exist I just showed you
Three editions or three versions of the bible
Where it claims to talk about grape juice and by the way, we don't need these versions because we understand we have enough
You know smarts
To know the liquor of grapes is referring to juice
Right
Go to isaiah 25 if you would isaiah chapter 25
Now here's where he's gravely mistaken because you know, he thinks that
There's no modern technology that can you know?
Keep the juice from fermenting but it just shows you how very little he knows about history
How very little he knows about history and you know, obviously he's going to look up
You know because he pulls up these commentators that are essentially saying the same thing that he's saying
And it's okay to drink alcohol
And you say well, you know, what's up with that? Well, did you know there's alcoholics back then too?
Hey christian winos didn't just exist today they were from back then too
So you had christian winos back in those days, you know with the beer mug and drinking the same a little wine for the stomach's sake
So
He's simply following what his spiritual ancestors have been saying for years, okay
But look at isaiah 25 verse 5
Uh verse 6, excuse me
It says and in this mountain shall the lord of hosts make unto all the people a feast of fat things
a feast of wine on the lees
of fat things full of marrow
of wine on the lees well refined
Now lees is simply referring to you know, if you've ever had like strawberry lemonade, for example
You know, the best thing about strawberry lemonade is when they keep the strawberries inside
Right, they let them just kind of float in there and you kind of shake it up and one of the most delicious things about
Strawberry lemonade is once you've done drinking the lemonade you got the strawberries at the bottom, right?
Right, that's considered like the lees
Okay, you know the little bits and pieces that fall off the fruit and they kind of
It's the sediments that fall to the bottom of the cup, right?
And what this is picturing here is that you know our end as christians is going to be the sweetest part of this whole trip
You know drinking the the juice
The wine right of of god's will is sweet, but it just gets so much sweeter at the very end
When we're just eating, you know
You know what i'm talking about when you drink it and then you're just kind of getting all those leaves and you're chewing on
You know the pulp you're chewing on the strawberries. That's great
Strawberries that's great. That's what god is picturing here, but he's saying here the wine on the lees well refined
What's it referring to? It's referring to filtration
Because no one's going to deny folks that wine is obviously made of fruits that has been allowed to ferment
That's obviously the case proverbs 23 talks about that
The argument that we're making is that you can actually prevent and impede the fermentation process so that it only remains juice
Okay
Now how well?
One of them of course is filtration
And in fact, let me read you a couple things here
You know because this guy likes to use these
Outside biblical source or sources that are outside of the bible. Okay. Well, let me give you some sources outside of the bible
To prove that this is a fact
plutarch, okay
Who is a roman author?
Discusses to whether wine should be strained declaring wine that's cleansed by a strainer
Has its strike and madness taken away
Leaving one in a mild and healthy state of mind
symposiacs
693b
So he's saying, you know when you strain wine, it removes the madness. What is he talking about?
It removes your drunkenness so it doesn't get you drunk
But let me show you the most common way to prevent juice from fermenting boiling
It's something that people do today
This is like modern technology, oh you mean like boiling
You mean like like putting uh, you know a pot and putting juice in the pot over a fire
Something that even your caveman probably did as well
Boiling was a way to prevent juice from fermenting
And in fact the reason why it was such an effective way
To prevent fermentation is because when freshly pressed grape juice is boiled the water evaporates
Leaving a thick syrup that doesn't ferment easily
So it would create this thick syrup that would not allow the juice to ferment easily
Which could be later extracted and made to use more juice to make more juice
You should put more water in it and it makes more juice
Aristotle
Wrote about wines in arcadia so thick that they were scraped off the wineskins so that they could be rehydrated in order to drink them
The roman poet virgil describes housewives boiling down. Listen to this sweet must
Now that's not a common word that we use today, but sweet must is referring to freshly squeezed juice
That's what they would call it back then is sweet must
So he's talking about the housewives that will boil it down in order to keep it as sweet must okay
and in fact today in greece
And you probably find in the united states of america. There's a drink called
Vicinada, okay, which is the drink that is made by mixing a thick cherry syrup with pure water
It's found today
But of course one of the most common ways to keep wine from fermenting becoming fermented is not just boiling but storage as well
Okay
You say well how they didn't have refrigerators back then, you know, you can literally dig the earth
And it gets cooler and you can store things in there and it remains cool or you can put you know
You can have a place in your house the coolest part of your house to store things
I mean, how do you think people kept?
uh food from like
Decomposing, I mean obviously they had they had salt and all that but there's different ways to keep things from decomposing from fermenting
One of them was placing them into rivers cold parts of the house in earthen vessels like we're going to look at right now
Boiled or filtered wines
Were stored in earth and where earth and where vessels or sometimes in animal skins for travel?
I mean the bible talks about animal skins putting new wine into new bottles referring to animal skins
Okay
Let me read you a couple things here caito the elder who's a roman soldier senator and historian
Claimed that must referring to juice
Stored in an amphora
Coated with pitch and stored 30 days in a water tank could be removed and kept as must for the whole year
Now what is an amphora if you've ever looked at you know this I know this is really interesting to you
I thought it was pretty interesting
Amphoras are the vessels that the greeks and the romans used to use if you remember if you've ever seen it
It looks like a vase
And it's narrow at the bottom and it has like two handles. Those are amphoras
Okay, and within their pitch with a certain coating that would preserve juice
So he said you put that in there and you put it in a water tank and actually can keep
The must from fermenting for at least a year
for a couple months
Okay
This is not a fundamental baptist
The apostle paul didn't write this
This wasn't the apostle john. It wasn't the apostle paul
This is you know, those cavemen that lived back in those days. They didn't know about modern technology
Columella who was the roman tribune of syria in 35 a.d
Claimed the same thing but extended the period during the amphora was submerged in water for 40 days
And his writings the rustica
Let me read you some more here
He says the ancients recognized that must stored in the cold does not ferment
In plutarch when attempting to keep must it was generally stored in a cool place
And could be kept as sweet must for as much as a year. You can find that in columella's writings and so
But here's the thing in bible times
Obviously aside from boiling, you know these filtration systems one of the most common ways is just putting it into a vessel
Okay, and and here's the thing. It's not like people just drink juice all the time either
Because juice was a commodity. It was a luxury
Okay, I know we can just go to the store right now and get ourselves a bottle of grape juice if we wanted to
But it wasn't that accessible in those days. That's why
Wine was considered listen to this a blessing from god because wine pictures abundance
Okay, it doesn't it's not like oh, it's such a blessing to be just smashed
It's such a blessing to wake up with a hangover
Right, that's not a blessing
Why the reason wine is a blessing is because thy barn shall burst out with new wine referring to the fact that god will give you
An abundance the christian life blessing is pictured by abundance
That's what it's pictured as and so when people had wine in those days, it's like wow. This is a blessing
Because I don't have anybody to put in the word to crush these grapes and put into vessels and give to all my family here
It would be considered like a luxury something you would use to celebrate things. Okay?
the process of fermentation
Grapes would produce. Excuse me. Grapes produce sugars that ferment under the right conditions. These sugars have contact with yeast
And of course the yeast is essentially the reason why
Wine ferments now today they can essentially streamline that process by adding more sugars and more yeast
And that's why they create these wines a lot faster today. Okay
now in order to
In order to regulate this and keep it from fermenting you need a couple elements. Okay number one
You need to make sure that you have either you you separate the yeast
From the skins you need cold temperatures or listen to this you need air deprivation
So if you deprive the juice from air you can impede it from actually fermenting
Which is why they would sometimes put it in wine skins
And in fact, they'll tell you when you put juice in wine skins
And and if you want it to ferment you got to make sure you put a vent
That way it can ferment and then you can get drunk or whatever
Whereas if you want if you don't want it to ferment don't leave a vent in there
Okay, now obviously you would have to drink it
Uh within a close period of time because of the fact that the co2 would eventually burst the wine skin
Okay
Which we see that in the bible
Now go to john chapter 2 if you would john chapter 2
It's pretty simple folks
You don't need modern technology. They didn't need factories back then. They didn't need machines. They literally there's people in france today
They literally just step on them with their feet
So, um, there you have it
He said why would they make these arguments because they want to keep drinking alcohol
Nothing to see here folks nothing to see here
No, no, no, this doesn't exist juice didn't exist. Let's just keep drinking alcohol
Let's just keep justifying this this sinful act here because they just want to justify their sin
They're not willing to look at the facts and folks this shows you how far an alcoholic is willing to go
To just keep doing what he's doing
And it's sad
But what makes me mad?
What gets me angry is not necessarily the person who just struggles with alcohol and is trying to overcome it
What ticks me off is the religious leader?
Who permits it because he wants to keep drinking knowing full well that there's people out there that actually struggle with alcohol
Who he's causing to stumble
That's wicked folks
Here's the last argument here
Or one of the last arguments is jesus turned the water into wine
How many have ever heard that one, right?
Jesus turned the water into wine
So I explained how it was juiced and he's like it was not juiced because by the time you pick the grapes
By the time you put them on carts by the time the donkey took it to the wedding at cana
It would have already turned fermented and I think to myself when did jesus do that?
Didn't he just turn the water into wine
Or he's like alakazam go get it real quick, okay, you know, this is like go get that order
I ordered it like for 12 weeks ago. Go get it
He's like the process that it would take for it to keep from fermenting it would already been fermented
Jesus didn't turn wine into wine or to juice. Well, it's like
It looks like jesus just skipped all that process
And kept it as fresh as you can possibly get it. Amen
Right
So even by his standards, it's just like okay i'll give you that
Let's say it does take that long and that's what where they got it
Well, jesus did not turn the water into alcohol because he literally made it fresh
Okay, but look what it says in verse one in the third day
There was a marriage in cana of galilee the mother of jesus was there
And both jesus was called and his disciples to the marriage and when they wanted wine the mother of jesus saith unto him
They have no wine jesus saith unto her woman. What have I to do with thee mine hour has not yet come
His mother saith unto his servants whosoever whatsoever he saith unto you do it
And they were set there six water pots of stone
After the manner of the purifying of the jews containing two or three firkins of peace
Jesus saith unto him fill the water pots with water and they filled them up to the brim
And he said unto them draw out now and bear into the governor of the feast and they bear it
When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine
And knew not whence it was but the servants which drew the water knew
The governor of the feast called the bridegroom and said unto him every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine
And when men have well drunk then that which is worse, but that was kept a good wine until now now think about this, okay
Because they're claiming
That the alcohol they drink prior to jesus giving them wine was alcoholic
And that the out the wine that jesus gave to him was also alcoholic
Now this is super wicked
Because even according to their definition remember what they said it's okay to drink
Just not to become drunk
Well, if they've already drunk in all the alcohol
And the bible says that they had well drunk
Wouldn't it mean that wouldn't that mean that jesus is causing men to sin?
By providing six more water pots of alcohol. It's like here's six more kegs guys
That'd be wicked
That would be an evil thing to do that would be claiming that jesus christ
Is causing men to sin and this is the argument that he posed. Well, you know, it's not jesus's fault
If they if he you know, if people can't control their alcohol or if they're getting drunk, you know
He provides the wine, but we do, you know, if we can't control ourselves, that's our fault. That's not his but you're claiming
That jesus gave it to them
Yeah
Number one you're claiming that jesus gave them more alcohol and he says this think about this
You know, it's just like gluttony
Gluttony, it's a sin to commit gluttony to just overeat. But here's the thing folks. You need food to survive
You don't need juice or alcohol to survive
It's not the same thing
And then he says this he's like the pharisees called jesus a glutton and a wine bibber
And in its context that shows you that jesus drank alcohol
Think about this what he's claiming is that he agrees with the pharisees
Because he's they're lying about him
So he's like, oh they're right. That means he was drinking alcohol
No, it means they're lying
Because the bible says that they are of their father the devil the lust of the father what they do
He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth
For the truth is not in him when he speaketh a lie speaketh of his own
The bible says for he is a liar and the father of it
The pharisees lied about jesus. They said he wasn't the son of god
They said he was a glutton and a wine bibber. It doesn't confirm that he drank alcohol. That would be wicked to say
So he says
Oh, we don't know if they really were drunk though
You know prior to jesus turning the water into wine
We don't really know if they were drunk because it takes me about two three beers and two hours to get buzzed
So we don't really know that and then in the same as the words are just coming out of his mouth
He's like by the way, when it says well drunk it means intoxicated
You just contradicted you're saying you don't know if they're drunk but then you say well drunk means intoxicated
Which means that you do you do believe that jesus gave them more alcohol to get more drunk even after they became intoxicated
But folks this is what happens
When people drink alcohol
They can't they're not consistent oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive
You just can't tell the truth because you just forget because alcohol destroys your brain
Go to romans 14 i'm going just a little long today, but I want to finish this up because this is important. Okay?
Let me give you the hypocrisy of these christian winos
Because here's the common thing that i've heard over the last couple weeks
You know because they can't refute what i'm saying and none of them have been able to refute what i've said
So this is what they come up with
Oh brother, just leave him alone. He's just referring to me. He's just weak in the faith
Okay, he's just weak in the faith he doesn't understand that we can drink alcohol he's just a weaker brother
Okay, how many have heard something like that?
They claim that we're the weaker brethren
Because we just we just you know, we can't we're just not spiritually strong enough
To understand that we can just get smashed anytime we want and it's okay
That it's okay in the sight of the lord to just get drunk
They're the weaker brother so what are they what are they implying it's it's obviously it's an attack, right?
to basically
You know belittle us and say oh you're not spiritual enough to know the spiritual truth. Okay?
So let's just pretend for a second
That we see it their way
Okay
Let's just pretend that we are the weaker brother
I'll take that
So according to that rationale according to what you're saying, we're the weaker brethren. Okay. Well, let's see what the bible says about that
Look at romans 14 verse 21
It is good neither to eat flesh nor to drink wine
Nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth or is offended or is made weak
So if you think i'm the weaker brother stop drinking then
I'll take that. Yeah, i'm just so weak
Hey inspiring philosophy i'm so weak right now
So I need you to just put the wine away because the bible says that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, that's right
Checkmate that's right
I'm offended i'm weak. You're causing me to stumble. Okay. Well the bible commands you to not drink wine then
So put away the beer that's right put away the wine put away the liquor sober up
But you know what they don't want to do that you say well why because they don't even know this verse exists
Because they don't read the bible
They just pick parts of the bible that kind of fit what they want
And they forget to read the rest, right?
But i'll take that if you want to claim that i'm weaker
But let's just be realistic though. The bible does not say that we are the weaker brethren
And in fact, we're strong in the lord and power of his might because we're sober
You can't be a strong christian and drink at the same time. It's impossible
Because you're not in your right state of mind
And anybody can tell you that any level of alcohol messes with your mind in some way shape or form
Okay, let your guard down and mess with your mind and the bible tells us god did not give us a spirit of fear
But a power love and a sound mind
Go to prophet 31 and this is the last portion of scripture we're going to go to
Just kidding, it'll be prophet 31 and then one more scripture after that, okay
I was going to talk about paul prescribing alcohol to timothy, you know, because he claims oh a little wine for thy stomach's sake
But obviously that's a that's a nonsensical argument because of the fact that he's not this is how we know he's not referring to alcohol
Number one because no doctor in their right mind would prescribe alcohol for health reasons
Ask any doctor we have a doctor in our church and I asked her doctor rita
Would you ever prescribe just a little wine for any stomach ailments? She's like absolutely not
What doctor would ever prescribe toxins?
For any type of health benefit
It's detrimental to your health but think about this, you know timothy is a pastor
So if he's saying, you know a little wine for thy stomach's sake
Wouldn't that contradict what he's telling him in first timothy chapter three where he says that a pastor's not to be given to wine, right?
Checkmate
Look at prophet 31. This is another portion of scripture that they've used
To tell me that it's okay to drink alcohol
I mean they're grasping at straws look at verse six
Here's the text verse
Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish
And wine into those that be of heavy hearts
This is a verse that they've told me
This is why it's okay to drink alcohol because you give drink unto them unto him that is ready to perish
And wine into those that are of heavy hearts. Okay
Now think about this I guarantee you 99.9 of the people who gave me this verse are not ready to die
Right
But if you really want to get technical about it, okay
Well instead of using prophet 31 as your as your as your example of how you should die. Why don't you use jesus christ?
Because listen to this when jesus christ was crucified on the cross
They gave him wine mingled with myrrh. You know what the bible says he refused it and he was someone who was what ready to die
Think about that
But let's let's go a little further than that, you know, because again, what do they do they get one verse?
I like the whole chapter
Let's start from verse one
The words of king lemuel the prophecy that his mother taught him
Great mom here, by the way
What my son and what the son of my womb and what the son of my vows give not thy strength unto women
Nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings now, what is he saying? This one i'm about to tell you will destroy your life
Verse four
It is not for kings olemuel. It is not for kings to drink wine nor for prince's strong drink
Oh, but everyone else can do it though
Listen look at verse five lest they drink and forget the law and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted now
Let me ask you
Is forgetting the law and the perverting of judgment something that is only subject to kings when they drink
This happens to everyone
So let me ask you this
Why not? Why are you acting like you're ready to perish and have a heavy heart and not behaving yourself like a king?
I mean doesn't the bible say that we're priests and kings unto the lord doesn't god expect for us to be the royal priesthood
And as the royal priesthood we should be like lemuel
That even if we're of heavy hearts even when we're ready to die
Even when we are bearing our cause daily, we refuse to wine mingled with myrrh
Yeah
But this is the first they want to use for that
Folks if you're ready to perish
Take it like a man and go to heaven
If you are the bible says if you are of a heavy heart, it doesn't tell you to drink wine
You know what? It tells you to do in james chapter 5 sing songs
Oh, I know that doesn't give you the high that you want though, right?
Because you need something stronger to know what you need is to get spiritual about certain things
And if you are of a heavy heart if you're ready to perish then walk in the spirit and man up
And not choose the easy way out and just say well
I'm, just gonna have a little bit of wine a little bit of alcohol just to ease the pain a little bit
Take it like a man take it like a christian take it like the lord. Jesus christ
Who even though he was in excruciating pain, he was scourged. He had nails. He had a crown of thorns upon his head
He was beaten and spat upon. He said I ain't drinking it
Go to luke chapter 5 and now we're done for sure for sure, okay
You say are you preaching this to win that guy over absolutely not
And let me say this I am not trying to win him over
He said what are you trying to do i'm trying to prevent and help those who are listening to him
From continuing down that path
You say why would you not try to win him over? Why don't you give him a call?
Be a peacemaker and give him a call
Well, i'm gonna give you a biblical reason as to why
Look at luke chapter 5 verse 36. This is jesus speaking to the pharisees
Verse 36 says and he spake also a parable unto them
No, man put the new piece of a new garment upon an old
If otherwise then both the new make it the rent and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeeth
Not with the old and no man put his new wine into old bottles
Else the new wine will burst the bottles and be spilled and the bottle shall perish
But new wine must be put into new bottles and both are preserved listen to verse 39
No, man, also having drunk old wine
Straightway desireth new why for he saith the old is better
You know why I don't want to win this guy over because no matter how much scripture I give him no matter how much proof
You know what? He's always going to say. Well, the old is better anyways, right?
I'm just drinking alcohol still better drinking alcohol is still permissible. So i'm not going to waste my time putting new wine into old bottles
The new wine of god's word the new wine of doctrine is going to go into new bottles
People who are listening people who see what the bible says people who actually love the truth
And they say you know what i'm going to stop drinking alcohol
And let me just say this sober up
Amen
You should today go to your liquor cabinet and throw all the way the liquor that you have
Throw away all your wine and your beers and your weed and your mind-altering drugs and start fresh today and say i'm going to sober up
I'm going to act like a king. I'm not going to act like someone who is
Uh stricken i'm not going to act like someone who's ready to die
I'm, not going to act like someone who's of heavy heart. I'm going to be filled with the spirit instead
Sober up
What's the sermon today, you know, the sermon is on winos christian winos
And i'm preaching this and you may think well you didn't come at it with the right spirit
Well, you know because i'm mad that's why
Because i've seen what alcohol can do i've seen it take the lives of people that I love
I've seen it destroy homes
I've seen it destroy marriages and it ticks me off when a man of god a so-called man of god gets up and say
It's still fine to do though wicked
It would never be permissible here. I will never change my stance on it
And I think I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt
That it's sinful. Amen. Let's pray father. We thank you so much for your word
And thank you for the admonishments. Thank you so much for the the clear teachings of the bible
We're so thankful lord for those who have taught us
And I pray lord that our children the teenagers in this room
The the the couples that everyone would steer clear
Of this poison of dragons
And lord help us lord to fight this and and and reprove the works of darkness
I pray that you'd open the eyes of people who have been deceived by that message of that alcohol is supposedly permissible according to the bible
I pray that you open their eyes and and help them to clean up to sober up to live righteously
And to bask in the new wine of god's word instead and I pray that you bless it lord
We love you so much. We thank you. Pray these things in jesus name. Amen