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Amen thank you all for being here this evening. We're gonna get started with song number
325 as you find your seat song number 325 trust and obey and let's all stand together if you are able to for song number
325 trust and obey
Song number 325 we'll see it on that first verse. Oh and we walk with the
in the light of his word
What a glory he shed
on our way
While we do his goodwill
He abides with us still and with all who will trust and obey
Trust and obey
For there's no other way to be happy
Jesus
But to trust and obey not a shadow can rise
But a smile quickly drives it away
Not a doubt or a fear
Not a sign or a tear
Can abide while we trust and obey
Trust and obey
For there's no other way to be happy Jesus
But to trust and obey
Not a burden we bear not a sorrow we share
But our toll he doth richly repay
Not a grief nor a loss
Not a frown or a cross
But his quest if we trust and obey
Trust and obey
For there's no other way to be happy in Jesus
But to trust and obey
Trust and obey
But we never can prove the delights of his love
until on the altar we lay
For the favor he shows and the joy he bestows
Are for them who will trust and obey
Trust and obey
For there's no other way to be happy in Jesus
But to trust and obey
Then in fellowship sweep
Or we'll walk by his side in the way
What he says we will do where he sends we will go
Fear only trust and obey
Trust and obey
For there's no other way to be happy in Jesus
But to trust and obey
Amen wonderful singing let's start our service with a word of prayer dear God my father
We thank you so much for dear God for just allowing us to be here in your house this evening
We do pray that you please just bless every aspect of our service. Oh God
I pray that you please just bless the singing unto you and I pray that you'd also just be with our pastor
Oh God, I pray that you please just bless him while he preaches Lord God
I pray that you would please just fill in with your Holy Spirit guide him through the scriptures and I pray that you please Lord
Just help him work out to preach your word and I pray that you'd also just be with us regarding the congregation that we
Would also be attentive to your word being preached unto us or God help it touch our hearts for God
Help us help us to be a better Christians. We're going to serve you better. Oh God, you know these things in Jesus name
Amen, you may be seated song number five when I survey the wondrous cross on song number five
Song number five when I survey the wondrous cross
Song number five we'll see it on that first verse
When I survey the wondrous cross
On which the prince of glory died
My richest gift is mine
Glory
Die
My richest gain I count but
Lost
And poor contempt on all my pride
Forbid it Lord that I should
boast
Save in the death of Christ
My God
All the things that are me most
I
Sacrifice them to his blood
See from his head his hands his feet
Sorrow and love flow mingled down
There's such love and sorrow
Me
Or thorns composed so rich a crown
Were the whole realm of nature mine
That were a present
Far too small
Love so
Amazing
So divine
Demands my soul my life my
All right, great singing just a few announcements here before we sing our next song
Which will be song number 90 if you want to get that ready
Jesus lover of my soul song number 90 if you want to get that ready there
Of course our sunday morning service is at 10 30 sunday evening at 5 p.m
And then of course, we have our thursday night bible study at seven o'clock. We are in the book of matthew on thursday evening
So hope to see you there. You see the so many times in teams, of course
Happy birthday to you all in the month of june. Sorry for not singing the song
Before the preaching but we got it in afterwards. And so please don't be bitter towards me
And then um the list of expecting mothers keep them in prayer and then the reminders there at the bottom
Please keep that in mind
And then the samaria soul morning is coming up on monday june 12th meet here at the building at 11 30
You can see brother elise's hernandez for more details father's day is coming up on
On sunday june 18th. We'll have a gift for all the dads that come so make sure you invite your father
There's someone's dad on that day and the service will be geared towards fathers. The fourth of july picnic is on tuesday
Fourth of july and so, uh, we'll give you more details as we approach that it'll most likely be at eucalyptus park and um
But we'll give you more details, uh later on and then the men's prayer nights coming up on friday july 7th
7 p.m. At the church building. We will have uh dinner for everyone who shows up on that evening as well
And then one last announcement that's not on here after the service tonight
We're just going to take a little bit of time to kind of break up into families
And you can choose a partner to pray with but we're just going to have a brief prayer meeting tonight
Uh regarding june and the abominations
Of june and the fact that our our country is celebrating the abominable act of sodomy
We're going to pray against it. And so I want to encourage you to stick around after the service to participate in that
And uh, of course you have the regular reminders there at the bottom
Please make sure you silence your phones during the preaching so as to not be a distraction during the service
Let's go ahead and take some soul-winning numbers from this past week
Salvations from monday to thursday any salvations from monday to thursday. How about friday and saturday?
Two, okay
Eight for a riverside anybody else? How about uh this afternoon salvations for this afternoon one for brother ulysses
Two for saturday one today anybody else
one
One for brother marcus's team and one for brother hike's team
Two for brother mori's team anybody else? Okay. Keep up the great work on soul-winning
Let's go ahead and sing our next song song number 90 jesus lover of my soul
So
Song number 90 jesus lover of my soul song number 90 there in your hymnals
Song number 90
We'll sing it on that first verse
Jesus lover of my soul led me to thy bows of fly
While the nearer waters roll while the tempest tip is high
Hide me. Oh my savior
hide
Till the storm of life is past
Safe into the haven guide. Oh receive my soul at last
Another refuge have I none hangs my helpless soul on thee
Leave me leave me not alone still support and comfort me
Oh my trust on thee has stayed
Oh my help from thee I bring
Me
Cover my defenseless head while the shadow of the queen
Thou old christ art all I want
Raise up all and cheer the faith heal the sick and leave the blind
Just and holy is
Name I am all on righteousness
Vowel and full of sin I am thou are full of truth and grace
Grace
Plentiest grace with thee is found grace to cover all my sin
Let the healing streams abound make and keep me pure within
Thou of life the fountain art
Freely let me take of thee
Spring down up within my heart rise to all eternity
Amen wonderful singing at this time our ushers will be receiving the offering and please turn your bibles to first timothy chapter one
So
Good evening tonight. We're in first timothy chapter one
first timothy chapter one of the bible reads
Paul an apostle of jesus christ by the commandment of god our savior and lord jesus christ, which is our hope
Under timothy my own son in the faith grace mercy and peace from god our father and the jesus christ our lord
As I besought thee to abide still deficits when I went into macedonia that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies which minister questions rather than godly edifying which is in faith. So do
Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart and of a good conscience and a faith unfeigned
From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling desiring to be teachers of the law
Understanding neither what they say nor whereof they affirm, but we know that the law is good if a man use it lawfully
Knowing this that the law is not made for a righteous man
But for the lawless and disobedient for the ungodly and for sinners for unholy and profane for murderers and father
And fathers of murderers and mothers for manslayers for whoremongers for them that defile themselves with mankind
For men stealers for liars for purge persons and if there be any other good thing that is contrary to sound doctrine
According to the glorious gospel of the blessed god, which was committed to my trust and I thank christ
Jesus our lord who hath enabled me for that he counted me faithful putting me into the ministry
Who was before a blasphemer and a persecutor and injurious, but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief
And the grace of our lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in christ, jesus
This is a faithful saying and worthy of all
Acceptation that christ jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am chief
How be it for this cause I obtain mercy that in me first jesus christ might show forth all longsuffering
For a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting
Now unto the king eternal immortal invisible the only wise god be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen
This charge I commit unto thee son timothy according to the prophecies which went before on thee that thou might
That thou by them mightest war a good warfare holding faith and a good conscience
Which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck of whom is hymenaeus and alexander
Whom I've delivered unto satan that they may learn not to blaspheme
Let's pray dear god, uh, thank you for the church you've given us lord and thank you for the bible
You've given us and we just pray that you're blessed pastor right now
He preaches out of your word lord and that uh us in the congregation
We could be edified by the preaching lord and go away change lord. We pray this all in jesus name. Amen
Amen. All right. We're in first timothy chapter number one this evening and the title of my sermon tonight is
Vein jangling vein jangling or another title could be profane and vein babblings profane and vein babblings
Babblings profane and vein babblings look at verse number five of first timothy chapter one
It says now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart and of a good conscience and a faith unfeigned
From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vein jangling desiring to be teachers of the law
Understanding neither what they say nor whereof they affirm now here in first timothy
Of course, the apostle paul is writing to his son in the faith by the name of timothy
And he's obviously instructing him on how to be a good leader there at the church at ephesus
And of course the these are the epistles what people would consider to be the pastoral epistles because it has the qualifications of a pastor
The responsibility of the pastor to teach the congregation and just has a lot of practical teaching
When it comes to how to behave yourself in the house of god and he starts off by telling him
One of the things that he warns about is hey, make sure no one's giving themselves over to vein jangling now
What's interesting is that this is like 2 000 years ago and you know, this is back in the day
This is you know first century ad
And yet we still have that problem today and it kind of shows you how relevant the word of god is that
The sin nature of man is still present today
Things that people struggle with churches that struggle with these particular things still struggle with them today
You're always going to have someone exerting these type of qualities
And giving themselves over to what the bible calls here vein jangling now, let's talk about that
What does that mean and tonight's sermon is going to be really practical?
But I feel like as a pastor I need to be an overseer in this matter of making sure
That our church is normal, right?
That it behaves normally it thinks normally it thinks biblically
It speaks normally it speaks biblically and then we don't surpass the boundaries of what god says normal should be. Okay
And one of the things that we see here that he warns about of course as I mentioned is vein jangling which simply means
vein meaning empty and jangling meaning speech, okay
Uh, it's not necessarily a word that we would use today a common word today would be wrangling which is basically the same thing
It's when you say a lot of things, but you don't you're not really saying anything at all
Okay, and you're just kind of rambling on about things that are insignificant
Not important and even foolish as we're going to look at in just a bit now
Let me give a disclaimer here is that
When I talk about vein jangling when the bible talks about vein jangling, it's not referring to talking about subjects in depth
Okay
And when I say in depth i'm saying that there's actually content in the bible to talk about
In regards to that particular topic or subject for example
You have the subject of end times bible prophecy where you can go pretty deep into end times bible prophecy
And you can extrapolate a lot of principles a lot of doctrines
There's a lot of facets of end times bible prophecy, but hold on a second. It's all still found within the bible
and so the reason I want to make that point is because
You know pastors out there
Can often get this attitude that when someone comes to their church and wants to discuss end times bible prophecy
And maybe go down a little deep and talk about the intricacies of the end of the world
You know these pastors want to write these people off as just one wanting to bane jangle or something
Whereas really what it is is they just want to learn the bible, right?
They want to learn the timeline the biblical timeline
They want to learn about the intricacies of the rapture about the tribulation
About the wrath of god and those details are very much laid out in the bible. And so sometimes pastors
Because they don't know the bible
They want to write people off as oh this person is just into bane jangling
They just want to talk about things. We're going to preach the gospel here. We're going to preach about, you know, salvation
And practical things whereas the bible specifically says we need to preach the whole council of god, which includes the book of revelation
includes the book of daniel
Includes a lot of these things that you know
A lot of these pastors and churches want to avoid because it requires a lot of study
And sometimes pastors don't want to put in the work to study out these subjects study out these matters
And so they want to write off these younger converts or these church members that are hungry for the word of god
They want to learn what the bible says. They want to write them off as all this. This person is just into vain babbling
They're just into vain jangling. But really what they're saying is I can't answer their question
Okay, and I don't know what that passage means
It's like can you explain to me what revelation 12 means and revelation 12 is a pretty deep chapter in the book of revelation
I mean, it's very symbolic in nature
It could be very deep a lot of symbolism is used there and it's for that reason a lot of people avoid that chapter, right?
And so they bring that up and it's just like you know what brother that's not important, you know, what's important is
You know studying the clear passages of scripture, which I agree with we have to study the clear passages
But we also have to study the obscure passages as well
So the point that i'm trying to make here is that this cannot be used
To just write someone off because they ask a question regarding content that is actually found in the bible
Okay regarding verses that are actually found in the bible
however, vain jangling or those who
commit the act of vain jangling
Are often guilty of going beyond the boundaries of what god's word teaches
Into areas that the bible doesn't even highlight for us, right?
They just kind of go off on tangents
And scenarios and theories and all these things and it's just like they're just kind of rambling on it's jangling
Nothing in the bible talks about that
So why would we surpass the boundaries of god's word to talk about something that the bible doesn't even talk about?
That the bible doesn't teach god hasn't revealed unto us
obviously we can pick certain things from the word of god and maybe uh make some
Some or theorize some solutions but at the end of the day we cannot be dogmatic about these things, okay
And so here he says, you know, make sure that
The people who are teaching at church first and foremost are teaching sound doctrine and they're not giving themselves over to just vain babbling
Just talking about nonsense and dumb theories and just kind of twisting and perverting god's word. Okay
So that's what we're going to talk about this evening the subject of vain jangling
Profane and vain babblings. He said why why do that? Well, you know this letter is written to timothy who is a young man
And this subject is covered in first and second timothy
It's also covered in titus
And it seems to be written to young men
And in my opinion in my experience should I say often it's the young men
In christian churches who have a tendency to give themselves over to vain jangling, okay?
And it's often a matter of immaturity it's often a matter of
Just uh ignorance of the bible and there's different factors that play into why they vain jangle why they're vain
They're just kind of vainly puffed up and talking about matters that the bible doesn't really talk about
But we see here that the apostle paul obviously is addressing timothy and he's telling him, you know
This is a tendency or the young men may have a propensity to kind of do these things
We need to make sure that we sift that out because we don't want our church to be characterized like that understand
And you know what? We don't want our church to be characterized by that either
I don't know about you, but I want to have a normal church
Okay, and yeah, maybe your definition of normality is different than mine
But guess what? You're not the pastor. So I guess it doesn't really matter now, does it?
You know, i'm the ordained pastor here. I'm the overseer and we need to normalize people not make them weirder
We need to normalize converts and not make them even more weird than how they came in okay
And so it's important for us to understand these things now
Why is it bad to vain jangle?
Okay, when we talk about vain jangling referring to the fact that some people ask questions or they talk about subjects
This surpass the boundaries of what the bible even talks about why is that bad?
Well, number one is because of the fact that it displays a lack of doctrinal stability, okay?
We want to be stable christians, right?
Not just in our conduct and our conversation, but even in our doctrine
He says there in verse number one paul an apostle of jesus christ by the commandment of god our savior
And lord jesus christ, which is our hope unto timothy my own son in the faith grace mercy and peace from god our father
And jesus christ our lord as I have a softy to a bistill at ephysis when I went into mastodonia
That thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies which minister questions notice it doesn't say dissolves doubts
It ministers questions
So often people who are guilty of vain jangling they're actually not edifying someone else. They're not providing solutions or answers
They're creating more questions is what they're doing
He says they're endless genealogies minister questions rather than godly edifying which is in faith
Rather than godly edifying which is in faith so do so these individuals who give themselves over to vain jangling vain babbling
They're easily swayed to fables and endless genealogies which in turn causes more doubt
More questions not necessarily solutions to current questions of current of doctrines that we see in the bible
Now, let me also say this good ephsians 4 hold your place here in first timothy because we're going to come back to that
So someone who vain jangles
When they start vain jangling, it's simply a display of a lack of doctrinal stability. They don't really know the bible
Okay
Now they may claim to know the bible. They may talk like they know the bible, but because they
Partake in vain jangling. It's an indicator. They don't know the bible
And let me just say this as a church you should be reading the bible through every single year, right?
Especially if you're if you're planning to be a pastor or you have that goal
You know, you should probably read it a couple times a year. Okay, you should read the word of god understand its content
And not be given over to fables and endless genealogies that you find on youtube
Okay that you find on social media you come up with these weird scenarios that these
Youtube teachers bring forth and then you just buy into it
You're just showing that you're just doctrinally unstable if you're able to be persuaded
To be persuaded to one end or another just in one video
By some guy who's not even ordained or some person who's not even qualified to teach the bible
You're easily persuaded. You are a babe in christ. Okay
Now let me also say this is that in my experience and i'm just going to go ahead and say it
The people who are guilty of this the most
are often
Often have a very inordinate affection and obsession with rewards
Let me just say that okay
Let me say that again people who often give themselves over to vain jangling will often have this overly obsessive
inordinate affection towards rewards
Okay
So what do you mean by that? Well, you know
The the point of the christian life is to be balanced, right?
So we love all aspects of the christian life, but we're not looking to obey one commandment over the other
We want to be able to balance everything out. We want to be a good soul winner
But we also want to be a good student of the bible. We want to be a good husband
We want to be a good father. We want to be a great church member. We want to be a good employee
We want to be doctrinally sound but also be well in conduct
We want to have everything balanced out and we never want to just err on one side over the other
Right and say well, this is the most important thing right here
And in my experience well from what i've seen and obviously reflecting from god's word here
Is that the young men in churches today will often develop this inordinate affection towards rewards for whatever reason
Now if you don't know what i'm talking about, it's probably because you're working on being balanced
It's probably like why would anybody have an inordinate affection towards rewards?
I don't understand that well, it's because of the fact that they're doctrinally unstable
You said what do you mean by inordinate affection towards rewards? What does that mean?
It's this weird
Attitude where it's just like what is the aspect of the christian life that will render me more awards than anything else?
Okay
And you know what? That's a stupid question to ask
That's a really dumb question to ask
Because folks you said why is that stupid? Well, because there's a bunch of commandments that god gives us
And for someone to ask that question or to think in such a manner is to say jesus. I know you gave me all these commandments
But i'm only looking for the one that produces the most rewards for me
I mean you see the foolishness in that
Like let me just find the commandment
That's just the easiest to obey the one that just produces the most rewards
And the one can give me the most eternal gains and that's the one i'm going to focus on the most
But that's a wrong attitude to have my friends nowhere in the bible doesn't talk about that
It tells us to to to obey all things whatever he's commanded us
Okay
And so we need to be careful that we don't develop some inordinate affection towards rewards or just have an inordinate affection
I know this sounds weird, but even towards soul winning, okay
We ought to love soul winning and so winning is important. It's important for our church. We're called first works baptist church
But sometimes people can develop this attitude or it's just like well, that's the only important ministry in our church
So I I just want to capitalize on that particular thing and just forget about everything else. That's a stupid attitude to have
Okay, and it often shows that you're just incapable of growing in other areas in your life
It often shows that you basically are esteeming
Other aspects of the one aspect of the christian life over the others
And it's essentially you're you're not esteeming the commandments of god. Okay
And again, so winning is important my friends. We need to preach the gospel
But that is not the only facet of the christian life if you can't understand that you're still a brand new christian
You don't you need to do some growing. Okay, and i'm not by any means
Saying that soul winning is not important because it is i'm saying that we need to take care of everything. Okay
And so in my experience a lot of times
It's these young guys who come in
and
And let me say this is that they they often develop this inner order of affection towards the ministry of soul winning
Which we should have a heart for soul winning, but then it just becomes all about that at the exclusion of everything else
And what it does is it produces a holier than thou attitude
Because someone is something that everyone can see you do
And it negates everything else in the christian life. Okay, and often that type of attitude goes hand in hand with vain jangling
And so we never want to be guilty
Of just vain babblings just coming up with dumb scenarios
What's that one thing that'll give me the most rewards in heaven?
Like what is it that I specifically have to do?
Does praying like this help me to get more rewards does you know doing this particular thing help me to get more just serve god
All right
Listen my friends just serve god at every capacity as best as you possibly can and stop asking foolish questions
You can invest all that energy that you're at that you're investing into asking questions and to actually serving god
And you know what i'm pretty sure a lot of people will be surprised
at the judgment seat of christ
You know a lot of these people might be surprised to see some other people get more rewards than they are
Only because they had a fishing pole in every pond of god's service
So you never want to have to develop this inordinate obsession towards a particular thing and look that just doesn't go for rewards
I'm, just saying rewards because this is something that always comes up
It always comes up
It's it's been in our church since we started our church
Where people come through and they're just they have this this weird obsession over rewards. I get it online
People are constantly asking me online about rewards
What if I do this particular way and I I serve god in this area?
What if I only win this amount of souls? It's like they think like god literally laid out a ledger in the bible
Of how many rewards you can gain each day for soul winning?
It's just like it doesn't work that way my friends and it's a wrong attitude to have towards the service of god
This isn't your business. This is god's business, but this isn't something where it's just like well god, you know, give me
Let's see here. I'll put 20 on
On, you know
Lucky number seven or something, you know, that's where i'm gonna put all my investment in or something
I don't gamble so I don't even know how how to word it or something, you know, i'll put it on
Uh number five horse or something to see if that one wins. I think that one's the fastest
No, just bet on all of them. Amen
i'm not saying bet but
But again, these are the same individuals that give themselves over they give heed to fables and endless genealogies
They just lie. They're like the epicureans and the stoics
Who literally just like talk just hearing about something new?
And you know part of the problem
I know I had to turn to eephesians 4 we'll go there in just a bit. But part of the problem
Is it is the internet? Okay
It's youtube
Because of the fact that you know youtube and the internet obviously gives us access to a lot of bible preaching
But there's obviously a lot of access to a lot of stupid bible preaching, too
Okay, but let me let me let's talk about the bible preaching first, okay
Because this generation more than any other generation
Can literally come to church
today
For the first time and just know a lot of bible preaching already
Not because they put in the work for it, though
So they can literally come to this church next week
I mean, there's probably someone listening online who's been listening for six months and they're just racking up the knowledge
They're just learning all these things through youtube and then they just want to show up like an expert already
But then they really put in a whole lot of work did they and to actually studying the bible
It's them consuming content through youtube
Which obviously there's nothing wrong with that. But hold on a second the men that you're listening to actually put in the work
The men that you're listening to actually put in the hours and hours of learning the bible
Reading the word of god they come from a generation where you know bible preaching wasn't as necessary readily available as it is today
Today you can listen to 20 sermons throughout the week and just learn, you know
You can listen to 22 hours of the book of revelation
And if you're a decent listener, you can learn a lot
Whereas there's other individuals that have taken them 44 88 100 hours to learn the content of the book of revelation
To actually provide that for the listener what i'm saying is sometimes you'll get people who come to the church
And all of a sudden they're an expert in all bible prophecy
They're an expert in all doctrine but expert but not really an expert though, right?
They're good at regurgitating what they've heard in the sermon
I mean, there's people that can tell you the history of the new ifb even though they joined like
three months ago or something
I'm, just saying the internet is a tool that can just you know
Kind of help you to become a person that you weren't you that you're really not
By no study on your own
Okay, now you said what's the problem with that don't we want to get information out there as much as possible absolutely
That's why we have youtube
That's why we try to preach the word of god to hundreds of thousands of people
And it's it's definitely helpful, you know, like we got our channel taken down the last couple days in june. I'm not sure why
You know just they took it down on june 2nd. I don't know why they would do such a thing, but they took it down
But before it got taken down, you know, there's videos on there that reach hundreds of thousands of people
We literally have people that came to our church god saved and baptized because of this last youtube channel
So i'm going to keep making youtube channels and keep putting out content because it produces a good amount of fruit. Amen
But here's the problem when people gain
A lot of knowledge and information in a short amount of time
Let me explain to you what the problem is when people gain a lot of knowledge
In a short amount of time, here's the problem pride
Arrogancy
pride
Arrogancy haughtiness
This is the result of learning a lot of information in a short amount of time. So, you know what it requires
It requires a specific amount of discipline
To learn that information and be a good steward of that information and to be humble
To recognize you know what?
I didn't necessarily put in the work to learn all this. I just heard a bunch of sermons about it
I wrote down all the verses and I just memorized everything and I just
I know a lot not necessarily because I put in the work, but other people put in the work for me
And so but I need to remain humble
And and recognize that you know, I have not yet arrived
So you have a lot of these babes in christ that come to church
with a lot of knowledge
and then become prideful
And they begin to have an attitude that they should be esteemed amongst the brethren as being some know-it-all or whatever some some student
Uh of the bible
But folks it doesn't work that way. Okay
And again, sometimes this this creates an atmosphere of people who are given over to vain jangling. Okay
Now again, let me just
Say this again is that i'm not saying that you can't come to church and let's talk about deep doctrine, right?
We can theorize and talk about deep doctrine let me say this when you start arguing about stupid stuff
When you guys cannot have a decent conversation
About doctrine without one party getting upset at the other and you just argue over days and days and days at that point
It's vain jangling
When you guys can't come to a reasonable conclusion
Of whether Nicodemus was saved or not
And you just want to fight about it and argue about it and just all these things brother Robinson, can you thank you
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You know
beautiful beautiful
But she's stealing the show. Everyone's loving her singing right now. They're not paying attention to what i'm saying right now
You know if you can't come to a reasonable conclusion to that then at that point it's becoming vain jangling
if you are
Bickering and fighting over something so minuscule as let's just throw it out there. Of course the whether Nicodemus was saved or not
Then you know, that's a dumb question after a while now it can't it doesn't have to be a dumb question though
You can actually have a decent conversation about that and agree to disagree immediately
And just be like, yeah because look mature people say, you know, I I get what you're saying I disagree
And this is what I would disagree, but I definitely see from your point of view
Other people are just like
And they just want to keep going and then you have other people who instigate those conversations even further
They add more fuel to the fire
They add more endless genealogies and fables and scenarios and it creates this atmosphere
Of just profane and vain babblings. Okay, and from my perspective is just annoying
It's just an annoying thing. It's just like all right, let's shut up about it
Like who cares whether I guess we'll find out when we die
Okay
I didn't know the gospels were centered around Nicodemus. I had no idea that he's such an important figure in the bible
But people make a big deal about this and it becomes vain, jangling. It's not important
Learn to have adult conversations where you can come to a reasonable conclusion
Even if you disagree with the other person and you can just walk away and continue to have productive conversations
Okay
The point that i'm trying to make is that instead of ministering questions. We should be dissolving doubts
And I constantly online and even in church i'm at i'm answering questions and i'm just like why am I answering this question?
This is a pretty obvious answer and I feel like i've answered this multiple times and by the way, let me just say this
I i'm willing to answer anybody's question, but folks pay attention in church though
Amen
Stop falling asleep in church and listen
It's been so many times when people have asked me like hey
Have you preached on this sermon and I literally preached on it like the week before?
I mean that's annoying my friends
putting in all the work to prepare a sermon and preach the word of god and then someone comes to me like
Have you ever thought about preaching the sermon is just like thought about it already did
last week
Or have you ever talked about this and I literally talked about that
As of recent and they just want me to rehash the entire thing over look folks i'm giving you
50 minutes to an hour of my time teaching you the word of god. Just listen
Now, you know, obviously not everyone's gonna has the same attention span and and some things might go over your head
You might be thinking about what's for dinner right now and you know your favorite show that you don't want to miss
So hopefully I don't go long or whatever or you know
You got other things on your mind or you're thinking about your dog. You're thinking about your kitty you're thinking about, you know, whatever
Okay, how hot it is in here how cold it is
You know, you got other things on your mind. So you're kind of tuning in and tuning out. Okay
But let me give you a word of advice before you ask a question think of my man the pastor already covered this
Did he cover this?
Okay
And i'm not saying you can't ask me any questions you can but you know
There has to be a level of discretion to say is this a dumb question?
Or is that too much to ask right
Now I expect brand new christians to ask whatever they want because they don't know a lot
So when someone brand new comes to our church
Even if they've been listening online or whatever, but they haven't been in our church
And it's their first time I let them just ask whatever and I don't I don't shame anybody
But I definitely don't shame them because they just don't know a lot
but if you've been in our church for quite some time and you're asking things that i've already covered and and you know,
Number one i'm either gonna think
You're vain jangling
Or number two, what's worse? You're trying to catch me in my words
Which is also a thing that takes place
Which by the way, according to the chapter here in first timothy chapter one
You know based upon its context he might be referring to those guys who he gave over to satan that they may learn not to blaspheme
So there's actually two types of parties that give themselves over to vain jangling one is the unstable immature christian
The other one is actually a wicked person
Who does it in order to create confusion and or to catch the pastor in his words?
And I have no problem
In our church if I feel like someone's trying to catch me in my words. I'll put them on the spot right then and there
What does it mean to catch someone in your words?
You know, you're trying to catch me saying something else differently than what I said in a previous sermon or a previous statement
Okay, that's wicked
You know
I don't want to give examples, but you know, you understand what I mean?
Okay
And so when you approach me don't waste my time
And don't make me even assume that you're trying to catch me in my words because I will
You know cloud up and rain on that because I don't take that lightly
You know i'm investing time to preach the word of god and then you come and it's just like you're kind of
You're trying to see if i'm going to contradict myself or something like that
I'll give you an example. Let me give you an example. It won't be my example. It'll be my pastor friend's example
And I didn't ask him for permission, but i'm sure he's fine with it
Pastor Jimenez was telling me about an instant because I was telling him about
An instance that I had he's like man. I had a similar situation
He said that one time and this was like another pastor by the way
Who did this to him?
He like came to him and he's just like
He's like, hey, how's it going?
and the pastor pastor man is like great and then the the other pastor was like
He's like do you remember me?
And you know in pastor man is his mind. He's like man. I don't remember this guy
And you know and there's like a temptation
To say like to kind of save the guy embarrassment by saying yeah, I think I remember who you are, but he didn't say it
He just ended up saying like no actually I don't remember you
And so he said I don't remember you and the guy said okay good because we actually never met
Wicked
That's called can trying to catch someone in their words
And i've had people do that here
And i've confronted people with that and i've ripped their face off because that's a wicked thing to do my friends
And so, you know don't bring this vein jangling vain by the way, it says profane and vain babbling
Because it's either you're you're it's never good by the way
Either one you're just unstable unlearned
Immature or two
You know you got an agenda behind that
By the way, if you already know what I believe about a subject why come ask me
Right
Like if you already know what my take is on a particular verse a particular subject
Why even open up that can of worms and ask me?
Unless you know that maybe one of my pastor friends believes different or something like that
Because that's sometimes the case
You know, I don't like it when my when people try to pin me against my friends over some ministem
Over some minuscule doctrinal issue or question or verse
That doesn't look right my friends
Okay
And I snip that out right away. I'm not for that. But look if you have a doctrinal question i'll answer of course
I'm, just saying these endless genealogies these these questions that minister more questions
These vain janglings need to stop. Okay
And i'm it doesn't happen all the time, but lest it should be a thing in our church, you know
That's why i'm preaching this sermon look at ephesians 4 verse 11
It says here and he gave some apostles and some prophets and some evangelists some pastors and some teachers
For the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry for the edifying of the body of christ
Till we all come in the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the son of god unto a perfect man
Unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of christ that we henceforth be no more children
Tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of men and cunning craftiness
Whereby they lie and wait to deceive but speaking the truth and love may grow up into him in all things
Which is the head even christ?
So someone who is given over to fables endless genealogies is referred to here as a child
Okay, and it should be our goal as christians to grow out of that, right?
And the way we grow out of that is learning what the bible actually says
And staying away from crossing the boundaries of what the bible doesn't say
Like well, let's figure out
What the toe of the dragon in revelation 13 what color that toe was or something like that
Okay, and it's often i'm telling this is often the case it's a person who wants to just have a corner on the truth
They want to be the ones who have that corner on the truth that discovered this particular thing
You don't have to be the expert in everything. You don't have to be the one to find the gold
Just rejoicing the gold that's already been found
Use the gold and the silver that's already there
Okay
And what i've learned is that when you approach the bible with that attitude, you know
God has a tendency to reveal more things into you
Because you've humbled yourself, but i've learned that people who are guilty of vain jangling know the least amount of bible
They can't teach me nothing
Okay
And they're often the ones who are
You know speaking of things that just don't pertain to any profitable conversation
And so we need to move on from that go back to first timothy
Chapter one i'm going to read to you from chapter six and verse 20 says oh timothy keep that which is committed to thy trust
Avoiding profane and vain babblings and oppositions of science falsely so called
Which some professing have erred concerning the faith grace be with thee. Amen. What's another what's what's this referring to?
Well, there's people who get into profane and vain babblings
Using science to debunk the bible or something or they try to fit current science into the bible, right?
And the bible says we need to avoid all that nonsense. Okay, you know, this is why we don't have
uh
You know creation ministry here
I'm, not interested in having a creation ministry here
I'm, not interested in having one of our church members be the next ken hoven for sure not the next
The next ken ham or something
The next person who's just is able to take on all of these scholars in the university
And just you know demolish them using creation who cares about that nonsense
I'm a creationist, but you know what i'm a creationist because the bible says that god created the heavens and the earth
The heaven and the earth he says that he created it in six days. It doesn't take much
To believe that just read the bible. You don't need to dig anything up for me
You don't need to use science to prove the bible
I don't need science to validate what the bible says
But you know people who are giving over to those types of ministries are often puffed up and proud
They're arrogant and prideful. They love to argue
They love to dispute they love to debate
Under the guise of well, we're just trying to win them to the lord. Well, that's funny
I don't debate people when i'm out door knocking and I get them saved
You say how because I go to the door already knowing that i'm right
There's no debate about it
The bible's right
He said what if they don't agree to that then I dust off
My feet and I move on to the next door and I win other people to christ
We don't need a creation science ministry and let's find the ark of the covenant
You know, that's you know, the ark of the covenant is right under the cross in gal gotha and it has human blood
I mean, you know what i'm talking about? What's that guy's name?
ron white
He's like
And you know the jews are he's like
He's like it's living blood
Whose blood is it? It's the blood of your messiah
right
That's what he said
Because he claims the blood that supposedly he found in the supposed ark of the covenant that supposedly was below the cross at gal gotha
That it had the blood of jesus. It was still living blood implying that it's jesus's blood
And then when the jew had the rabbi or whatever like who's whose blood is it?
It's the blood of your messiah
Freaking liar
That guy's a seven-day adventist
Is he still alive
Yeah, there you go. You guys in hell, so it doesn't even matter
Let's say let's say let's say it was the blood of jesus christ
Apparently didn't do him any good because he's in hell right now because he didn't even believe in that blood
And so, you know don't allow yourself to be swayed by these
oppositions of science false is so called especially on social media on instagram that bring up these videos about
You know, oh man this river just dried up. Oh, man, this river just got filled up. Oh, man
This is like they're obsessed with all these rivers
It's like rivers come and go my friends. This is the fulfillment of bible prophecy
And then here we are a year later. Nothing's happening
It's all for views. It's these narcissistic
You know creators these influencers that don't know what they're talking about
They're just persuading you and going out and by the way, no one leaves those videos saying you know what?
I know the bible really well now
They walk away
having more questions
And in fact, I guarantee they walk away with more doubt about the bible
Especially when those things don't come to pass
They doubt the bible even more
So these people are guilty
These
Influencers or whatever are guilty of creating more doubt in the word of god and turning more people away from god's word
Not because of how they said the truth, but because they're lying
About the truth they're turning the truth of god into a lie
Thus creating an audience that no longer has faith in the bible
Because the information that was presented to them was falsified. It's fake. It's not true. It's not doctrinal
And so beware of these people
And unfortunately, we do live in a society that you know, the simple passed on and are punished
A lot of simple people on the internet who will watch a 60-second video like that and just believe it and it's just not true
And look people don't even have to believe what I say in 60 seconds. Go look for it for yourself
The investigation fears no the truth fears no investigation
So when I do a 60-second short
Look it up. You can see it in the bible. You can listen to a sermon
You can read it in the word of god yourself and see that it's true
You're in first timothy
And so vain jangling often displays a lack of doctrinal stability
But it also stems from a heart that has the wrong motives
Because when someone is jangling they're just babbling on they're trying to make themselves seem as though they know something
When in actuality they don't know anything
And so they often expose themselves for actually being ignorant of the bible rather than
intelligent and knowledgeable about doctrine
And let me say this is that you know, the the more you talk
The more we know how much you know
The more you talk the more we know how much you claim to know actually
Okay, look at verse five. Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart and of a good conscience
And a faith unfamed
So he's saying here that they teach nor the doctrine
And then he talks about the fact that this commandment that he's given them should come from a heart
When when timothy actually executes this it should come from a heart that loves the people, right?
Not because he's trying to lift himself up
Not because he wants people to think that he's knowledgeable about the bible
It's because he actually wants to help the people in his congregation. Okay referring to timothy here
It should come from charity out of a pure heart a good conscience and real faith
Faith and fame is just like not a fake faith. Okay
This is why young men who want to be pastors
You better go into the ministry with the right motives
With the right motives, so what motive is that I thought the motive was like to be
A famous man of god or something like that. No, it's not
The motive should be that you want to teach the word of god you want people to be edified by the preaching of god's word
You desire to oversee
God's people to lead them in the way of righteousness
You know why I love my job is because every sunday and every thursday
I leave fulfilled knowing full well that I was able to preach god's word to help someone grow in their faith
To become a better christian and I was able to turn someone to righteousness
Amen, I mean i'm energized anytime I come to church
When I come to church, I love helping people with their problems. I love talking about doctrine. I love leading people into righteousness
These are the things that I love. I don't do this because oh, I might be on the news next week or something like that
I don't care about that stuff
If it happens, it happens. I don't put myself in a position to be on the news if it happens it happens
Like when we were on the news on fox 11 a couple years ago
I didn't give them those clips. I didn't say hey put the clips like this to make me look cooler or something like that
You know, they went they picked all that out and he puzzled all whoever the editor was did an awesome job
And I was like dang this thing is cool this made me look cool
But I didn't I didn't premeditate and think to myself i'm gonna preach this and say this
You know what I mean? So hopefully they'll use this part right here. You know what I mean?
It's just like just put it all out there and let them choose
right
But even then you know if we if you never make it into the news
And no one ever finds out who you are. That's not the purpose of pastoring
Purpose of pastoring is to edify
Train the saints for the work of the ministry to perfect the body of christ
Feed the sheep feed the flock of god and help them, right?
Preaching god's word. I mean, I love to preach god's word. That's that's my that's what I love to do
I love preaching god's word. I'm not perfect at it. I'm not the best at it. I stumble I make mistakes
But you know what? This is a passion that I have and it comes from a heart that
Rejoices when the light bulb goes on on a convert
When someone's in church and they're like I get it or I made a decision to stop drinking or I made a decision
To get right with god because I love that
But the vain jangler can care less about those things
The vain jangler doesn't want to help people
The vain and profane babbler has no desire to help people grow in their faith. You say what do they desire?
They want self-recognition. They want people to recognize them. They want the accolades of men
That's what they want. So what they'll do is they'll vain jangle in hopes that you'll think that they're pretty smart
Because of the questions and theories that they propose
It's stupid. And in fact, look what it says in verse six from which some having swerve having turned aside into vain jangling
Desiring to be teachers of the law
Is it to help people though? No
It says understanding neither what they say nor where they affirm
So they'll talk about the law what the bible says. It's just like this guy has no idea what they're talking about
They don't know what they're saying and they don't even know where to confirm it
They don't even know where that is in the bible
So
And this is often the case this is pretty much 99 percent of christian youtubers
This is the scariest verse in the bible stick around to the end you'll find out why
This is all videos like that
Oh, man, it's like cringe i'm not exaggerating either that's that's how they talk
Geo just sent me a tik tok, you know, geo's always on tik tok tell by the way he looks
You know geo sent me a tik tok of this guy and I think the guy is on uh, that paul guys podcast
Thanks, but what's the paul what's the paul guy's name?
Logan like he had like you really have to think about that one. Oh
Logan paul
Logan paul is that he's on his podcast, right?
The guy the video you sent me
And he's like literally on there right and of course they put the dramatic music
And he's speaking because he's on his podcast and he's literally like i'm built different
Remember when I talked about that a couple weeks ago
Warning again, actually that was last week. Never mind, you know, i'm getting older. So forgive me last week
I was preaching on that this guy literally went on there. He sent this to me
This week and the guy's like i'm built different and he's talking about christianity, too
He says I can never get away from god because i'm built different
You know, it's just I love god and he's just boasting of how devoted and loyal he is to to god
The guy's probably not even saved
But this is the vain jangling that is out there
Profane which means unholy talk
Because what christian talks like that?
I'm, just built different. I'm never going to forsake god. Okay, peter
And and people eat that up with fork and spoon
But these people are designed to be teachers of the law
But they don't know what they're talking about you hand that guy a bible and say find me a verse that says that you're built
different
So
And look I could even pull out some verses to actually help his point
But I wouldn't help him i'd be like, you know what the bible says i'm fearfully and wonderfully made
For we are his workmanship created in christ. Jesus unto good works, which got it before our day that we should walk in it
And I would tell him find me that verse he wouldn't be able to find that
He's full of vain jangling profane babbling doesn't know what he's talking about
He just wants to be esteemed as someone who does know what they're talking about
But we don't want to have that atmosphere in our church don't be like that guy
You say well, you know, I do want to be esteemed as being someone who knows god's word
Then then okay
If you have a genuine desire to have that and and you feel like there's nothing wrong with it
Then keep your mouth shut and learn the bible
for five years
10 years
15 years
20 years
Just read the word of god and read the word of god, you know, and and
People will come to you
Stop going to people
Trying to show them how much you know, wait till people come to you
Stop going to people spewing out how much information you have wait for people to come to you
Because if you're always the one having to go to people to tell them how much you know
That should show you something that people probably don't want to listen to you
Are we okay tonight
If people have to if you have to constantly go to people to tell them information and just
Vomit out everything that you know, it probably shows that people don't want to listen to what you have to say
Because they probably realize you don't have much to say
The bible says in jeremiah, you don't have to turn to three verse 15
And I will give you pastors according to mine heart which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding
What's another reason why people vain jangle?
Or what's what should we should I say? What's the result of vain jangling?
Well, I think I mentioned this already but you know, it's speech that can lead to blasphemy actually
Because when people begin to vain jangle and create all these theories that surpass the boundaries of the content of god's word
They can get involved in things that are not in the bible and actually become blasphemous in certain areas. Okay
And we see this example in first timothy one
And verse 19. It says holding faith and a good conscience which some having put away concerning faith had made shipwreck
Of whom is hymenaeus and alexander whom i've delivered unto satan that they may learn not to blaspheme now
We don't know exactly what hymenaeus and alexander said
What got him in trouble?
But they obviously blasphemed
And you know all that and i'm i'm not even sure if hymenaeus and alexander are saved. We don't know the bible doesn't explicitly tell us
but
Probably this could have been avoided if they should just shut up
If
Hymenasian alexander just never said anything they probably wouldn't have gotten involved in this situation. Okay?
Now go to second peter chapter three i'm going to explain to you why
people who vain jangle have a tendency
to
Overstep their boundaries of of doctrine of god the doctrine of god's word and possibly result in blaspheming
Look at second peter chapter three in verse 15
We're going to come back to first timothy
Second peter 315 says an account that the long suffering of our lord is salvation even as our beloved brother paul
Also according to the wisdom given unto him has written unto you
Also as also in all his epistles speaking in them them of these things in which are some things hard to be understood
Which they that are unlearned
and unstable
Rest as they do also the other scriptures unto their own destruction
So it says here that there's certain individuals that will take the hard sayings of paul
And they would begin to rest them rest means to twist
Kind of twist it they rest like wrestle it they twist it and it's because they're unlearned
and unstable
I admire a person in our church
Who
knows the basics
Sticks to the basics and doesn't even necessarily need to let everyone know that they know the basics
They're just kind of growing the lord. They just learn the bible
They'll ask questions here and there
They're not necessarily want to be the center of attention when it comes to knowledge
They're just a person who's growing that's appropriate attitude to have
But the individual who's unlearned and unstable
Because they're constantly flapping their gums wanting to disperse the knowledge that they don't have
They're bankrupt of knowledge
they can also
Blaspheme and teach weird things
really weird things
You know where even sometimes they allow their political views to get involved into their doctrinal views
You know
Whatever views they have regarding the the the the current situation the culture just kind of influence their doctrine
And then they can they end up twisting the scriptures
And you know, they they twist them. They wrestle them they take things out of context and it can result in blaspheming the word of god
Okay, go to second timothy chapter two
And you know don't overlook that and think well, you know, that's not going to happen to me or something, you know, but it can though
Because if you're confident in what you're saying, even though it's wrong
You're just confidently teaching that which is wrong
You can get involved in blasphemy
teaching wrong doctrine false doctrine
And so just keep learning god's word just stick to the basics
Look at second timothy 2 15. It's a study to show thyself approved unto god
A workman that needed not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth, but shun profane and vain babblings
so he's saying you know, just
Don't be a vain babbler shun that stuff. Just get away from that
For they will increase unto more ungodliness
So if you allow yourself to just vainly talk and vainly babble it's going to increase unto more ungodliness
And their word will eat as doth the canker of whom is hymenaeus and philetus who concerning the truth have erred
Saying that the resurrection is passed already and overthrow the faith of some
And look i've personally seen this
as a pastor at our church
where people can become
So profane and vain in their babblings where they begin to surpass the boundaries of the doctrines and content of god's word
And then they start teaching some weird stuff
And i'm serious i've been told you know that this might be the tribulation
And they could even convince other people
We might be you know, 2020 came around
And then you had the coronavirus
And it's just like corona crown
gives a crown and
You know just like and you know what they were able to convince some people that possibly were going through the tribulation
But you know what unlearned and unstable people though
You see how dangerous that can be
And look I don't
Again, I don't try to shame people like that
but if they're talking to me, I just kind of look at them like
I don't think that's the case and obviously they know more than me. So they're they feel bad for me
They're you know, their minds are like this poor pastor
He's a good, you know, I love the new fb he's a good pastor, but he's just he's just wrong in this area, you know
Just but here we are in 2023
And which would essentially, you know, uh mark, I don't know the the fourth or the fifth horseman
Or the fourth horseman and then the fifth seal
right
Don't really look like it
Because people have people have thought that like the vaccine was the mark of the beast
Yeah
By the way, stop talking about the stupid vaccine anyways
This is church bring your look we're all against the vaccine
We don't need to win each other to christ here when it comes to the vaccine
Like do I need to preach the gospel to every single person in here?
No, because everyone pretty much here is generally that as far as I know everyone's saved here
So we don't need to preach the gospel in here because everyone's safe
Well, I don't think you need to go around preaching
The gospel of anti-vaxx either because pretty much everyone knows where we stand on that here
This is church. Let's talk about church things talk about life. Don't allow your political views to start inserting into
Church culture in here if you wanted to if you want to allow it to dictate your life that's on you
But don't bring that stuff here
Okay. So what's the problem with that? Well, I don't know, you know, i've been in old ifb church
Where you know their political views started infiltrating the churches and they became
Republican fox news baptist. That's how that's how it turned out
And so don't think you're you're above that that that can't happen to you because it can okay, we need to keep church church
But you know, they start teaching weird things weird doctrines time travel, I mean it's out there
You know flat earth
That's a big one
Okay, that's vain profane and vain babbling and i'll say it again it's stupid
It's a stupid doctrine. I don't care how many listeners that we have are flat earthers. You're an idiot for believing those things
Plain and simple. Well, you're not being sensitive enough folks if the bible teaches that the earth is round
And you're like, yeah, but this one video makes a great case
If the bible I mean are we bible believing christians here
Are you saying that the that some video makes a better case than the bible does?
Think about that
Let's let's think about that for a minute. We don't have flat earthers in here. So you you know, we're good
Okay, as far as I know
The bible makes a far greater case and it's just like yeah, but this
You know, this one video is just really good. You mean you oh you mean like that six hour video
Where you don't see the guy's face
And he uses like nib verses and stuff. Is that what you're talking about?
But you know what that's what it's talking about when it increases into moral and godliness
And look here's a perfect example
of
vain babblings
That leads it increases into moral and godliness tyler doka
Is a perfect example of someone who came out as a flat earther
the the savior of the flat earthers
Because he was a new ifb guy or whatever which he wasn't
It's so funny I was talking to the the guest stars were here earlier from verde
And and mrs. Guest was one of her daughters was just like, oh the guy with no shoulders
You know what that's true
The guy actually and I thought about I was like, yeah
He kind of looks like my son would draw him or something
He looks like a kid's drawing or something with like no shoulders because he's just kind of like falls, you know, he's just like
That was like the best description I heard of tyler doka
But you know, he he comes out as a flat earther
Which is a profane and vain topic
Okay, and if you don't believe me just talk to any flat earther any subject you talk about it'll always come back to the flat earth
always
Oh, but did it stop there no it increases into moral and godliness
Because then you start teaching the christians can go they're going to go to hell. They're going to go to the lake of fire
And then it increased into more on godliness where now he's teaching that he's jesus
Even to the point where he's like measuring his dome
His reprobate mind he's measuring it and saying that the measurements of his dome are the same measurements of the temple
I mean, that's a pretty good example right there, wouldn't you say?
That's what happens when you know study to show yourself approved unto god
Where you give yourself over to vain profane and vain babblings increasing unto more in godliness and then you blaspheme
Which is exactly what tyler adoka did
Now that's an extreme example, but that's a good example in my opinion a good example of a bad example
All right, go to titus chapter two if you would titus chapter two
So
Titus chapter two
You know god commands us to have sound speech. Okay, and I don't want you to be discouraged from like
Getting with your pals or whatever and discussing the bible
Because I find that very edifying. I think it's a good thing
It's one quality about our church that I really love is that men can just get together and just talk about the bible
But you know don't take it to the point where you're just discussing things that
God didn't put in the bible or he didn't intend for you to know
or create scenarios
That are just kind of like what's the point of that question? There's like no point
You know, like how many rewards do you think will get?
For like destroying reprobates in the millennial reign or something. It's just like
I'm just like I just want to walk away, but i'm like that's a dumb question
Do you think we'll be designated to like execute reprobates in the millennia? I don't know what that's why are you even thinking about that?
But i'm this this inordinate obsession over a particular topic though
Stop asking stupid questions like that. And that was my last point. My last point was, you know, don't ask stupid questions
I don't agree with my elementary teacher that said there is no such thing as a stupid question. There actually is okay
Now little kids look look my kids vain babble and that's okay
They jangle because they're kids
My daughter my son are constantly asking me and they ask me actually really good questions sometimes
Sometimes it's just like they're questions that kids would ask it's just like, you know
And you kind of have to be like, okay, I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question
And you kind of humor them or you just you're merciful because they don't know they're little kids
But when a grown man asks those questions, there's a problem
Like for example my son, you know, we're on our way home last week or something and he had a sincere question
He's like is it possible?
It was like a really deep question and I was kind of already done with church
Like when I go home
I'm, just like i'm taking off the pastor cape and i'm just like i'm ready to be just a normal person again
You know no more human being just like, you know, not be not do church
And then he's just like dad
Is it possible for christian
Who let's say they're saved
To like help reprobates against other christians
And I was just like man, that's too deep right now like i'm not
I'm, like where was that question earlier?
Like that's a good question. Actually, that's like worthy of my time to answer
And he's like, you know, they're saved but maybe they're so backslidden that they help reprobates against other christians
And I was just like, yeah, that's well, you know, I just answered the question and you know
He's it's not like he's like trying to show off either. He's just talking to me
And he asked me a couple questions like that and I thought to myself
These are really legitimate good questions because he just was curious about it
He's like what about this scenario right here because you know, he's six years old
So we still like understanding a lot of these concepts then it's not like we drill him either
We're not like hey definition of reprobate go
Definition of this go
He just learns them and then you know, the holy spirit because he's saved
Is working in his heart and he's just kind of learning these things, right?
But that's not to say that he doesn't ask me a silly question every now and then okay
Because he's a little kid and so they jangle every once in a while, but you don't want adults jangle. That's a problem
Okay
Because we should know better, okay
Don't ask dumb questions
Don't ask me. How many reprobates am I going to get in the millennial reign?
Don't ask me like hey
Do you think that the new IFB will be designated for sodomites in the millennial reign? I don't know. I don't care
That's such a weird mentality and you know what all you're showing is what you're obsessing over here
I said well, don't you think about the millennial reign? Absolutely
I think about the millennial reign all the time, but you know why I think about it because i'm sick of this world
And I want to be with Jesus
But i'm not thinking like oh man. I wonder what my horse is going to look like, you know, like
Man, I wonder what part of the country and you know, oh man i'm gonna you know, do this
I'm gonna get these people back or I'm just thinking of millennial reign as a hope that is set before me
Okay
So god commands us to have sound speech it says in titus 2 6 young men likewise or verse 1 actually says
But speak out of the things which become sound doctrine verse 6 young men
Likewise exhort to be sober minded and all things showing thyself a pattern of good works in doctrine showing uncorruptness
Gravity sincerity sound speech listen to this that cannot be condemned
The he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed having no evil thing to say of you. Hey young man follow this
You know every young man wants respect
But not every young man knows how to get it
Every young man wants respect, but they don't necessarily know how to get it
And he if you want to be respected
Give yourself a pattern of good works
You want a good reputation in our church should be a blessing in our church
You
Don't earn respect by asking for respect
You don't earn respect by telling people to respect you
You earn respect based upon the works that you do
The reputation that you build in our church of being a blessing and being humble
okay
and
Just let me say this
You may not know that you're vainly babbling and jangling
But you should know it now though
And so
you know
after this
You know, and by the way, i'm not preaching against people
I'm, not angry with someone as the pastor. Sometimes I have the uncomfortable responsibility to preach like a sermon like this
you know and and you know kind of call these things out because
You know, we need to make sure that we keep a normal church here
And that the young men in our church grow up to be
Functioning members of society and of their church
Uh, you know responsible husbands and responsible fathers and just godly young men
but part of that is just shunning profane and babe mabblings and not giving yourselves over to just
endless genealogies and fables and what your favorite podcaster just said your favorite conspiracy theorist came up with or whatever
You know that that's not a way to earn respect my friends. That's not a way to get godly
Let me finish up here. Look go to titus chapter three
So
It says in verse number eight
This is a faithful saying and these things I will that I will affirm constantly
The day which I believed in god might be careful to maintain good works
These things are good and profitable unto men you say, you know, I don't really like how you say don't ask stupid questions
It's kind of like rude, you know, it's like
Why would you say it like that? Well verse nine says but avoid foolish questions
Foolish means stupid
So the bible actually says we should avoid stupid questions
I try to avoid them by hearing stupid questions. You should avoid them by asking by not asking stupid questions
So you need to filter what you're about to say
Okay
And when you approach someone and you know, you want to impress someone with your knowledge, you know, don't
Just kind of listen
You swift to hear slow to speak
And and here and here's the thing is that you know
What the bible teaches my friends listen to me what the bible teaches is that the less you speak the more people think that you know
So even if you don't know anything you could actually cause people to think that you do know quite a bit
Because the bible says that people are esteemed when they don't when they shut their mouths
They're actually esteemed as being people of knowledge
It's like oh this guy probably knows what he's talking about because he doesn't talk a whole lot
Whereas the person who's constantly flapping his gums is just like, okay
We know this person doesn't know anything because he they've displayed to us that they don't know anything
You understand
And so, you know the sermon is really practical tonight. I hope I didn't offend anybody. But if I did, you know get over it
And and and give heed to this. I don't hate you. I'm not angry with you
I don't uh esteem you any less than anybody else
But you know, these are warnings that we need to give and give heed to
To make sure that we don't turn to this church of just
Jangling and vain bambling which by the way a lot of churches out there. They kind of characterize churches like ours as being
And I refuse to have that stigma in our church
Because I know we have intelligent people in our church
I know we have godly people in our church. I see my people to be very knowledgeable very godly very loving
right
But that's not to say that every once in a while. We won't get a couple people
Who you know, they need to be taught in those ways
And be refined in those ways
So that they don't behave in such a manner
That is contrary to the conduct of that god highlights in the bible
And so, um, that's pretty much it avoid vain jangling, uh, especially now after the service
Okay
You know, we're going to be fellowshipping but hey, we're going to be able to pray together
And maybe one of the prayers is like lord help me not to vain jangle, you know
Help me not to be a vain babbler. Now if you're one of these people and you walk away in your life
I got a lot to say today
And I know that sermon wasn't for me
That's for like, you know, I know who that's talking about then you didn't get it you didn't get it
Okay, everyone should be able to apply this sermon
And so let's pray father. We thank you so much for your word
Help us as your people lord
to take into account
Beforehand what we say lord help us not to get involved in vain janglings. There's enough in the bible to talk about
There's enough clearly laid out in the word of god
There's enough
content to to talk about and highlight and discuss and enjoy and be edified over
I pray that you help us as your people to do so lord
and help us
To shun profane and vain babblings, uh, so that ungodliness does not spread in our church
Bless our prayer meeting tonight the brief prayer meeting that we're going to have lord as we ask you to spare
our nation over
The abominations done in the midst and I pray that you bless us as we go on our way in jesus name. Amen
Song number 187 jesus loves me as our last song song number 187
Song number 187 seen on that first verse
Sing it out unto the lord
jesus
Loves me this I know
for the bible tells me so little
They are weak
Yes, jesus loves me yes, jesus loves me
Yes, jesus loves me the bible tells me so
Jesus loves me he who died heaven's gate to open wide
He will wash away my sin
Let his little child come in
Yes, jesus loves me yes, jesus loves me
Yes, jesus loves me the bible tells me so
Jesus loves me he will stay
Close beside me all the way
Thou has fled and died for me I will henceforth live for me
Yes, jesus loves me
Yes, jesus loves me the bible tells me so
So
Okay at this time I want uh encourage you to go with your families stay right here
And uh, just break up into families and if you don't have your family with you
Just find someone in an auditorium that you can pair up with and it doesn't have to be a long prayer meeting
We're just kind of praying briefly. Here's a couple things you can pray over you can end this