by the preaching Lord we pray this all in Jesus name amen okay we're in first
Timothy excuse me I'm losing my voice first Timothy chapter number one look
down at your Bibles at verse number 19 it says holding faith and a good
conscience which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck of
whom is hymenaeus and Alexander whom I've delivered unto Satan that they may
learn not to blaspheme and what I'm gonna preach on this evening is the
subject of being shipwrecked more specifically I'm gonna talk about
hymenaeus and Alexander and Philetus now hymenaeus Alexander Philetus are men
that are mentioned only in the book of 1st and 2nd Timothy and they're not
mentioned necessarily in a good light these are actually some troublemakers
that have basically sprouted here in this church and Paul is given
instructions to Timothy on how to deal with them okay now go with me if you
would to 2nd Timothy towards the latter end 2nd Timothy chapter number four
because hymenaeus is actually someone who's mentioned twice in the book of
1st Timothy but Alexander might be mentioned twice we don't really know if
the second mention of Alexander is referring to the same Alexander we see
in 1st Timothy 1 but it potentially could be look what it says in 2nd
Timothy chapter 4 in verse number 13 it says the cloak that I left at Troas with
Karpus when thou comest bring with thee and the books but especially the
parchments Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil the Lord reward him
according to his works of whom be thou where also for he hath greatly withstood
our words now two things that we can see from this is the fact that number one it
could potentially be referring to the same Alexander because of the fact that
they have the same exact name they're both being people who are blaspheming
the Word of God they're causing Paul the Apostle trouble but it could could be
potentially referring to someone completely different due to the fact
that it's referring to Alexander the coppersmith okay so it's almost making
that distinction that difference between this Alexander and the other Alexander
but at the end of the day they're both really bad people okay and one thing I
want you to notice when it comes to these particular books is that Paul has
no trouble calling out people by name I mean this is someone I mean Alexander
hymenaeus and Philetus are people that we know directly by name because the
Apostle Paul called them out by name and the reason he did that is because he
wants people at this particular church to be aware or should we say be beware
of these people but they wouldn't be able to do that they didn't know who
they were okay so obviously we know that Alexander and hymenaeus are people who
are known amongst the congregation they've been coming around they're
teaching some false doctrines and so it wouldn't be right for the Apostle Paul
to come and say hey be careful with people who just teach false doctrine I'm
not gonna say who it is you know I don't want to say any names because I
don't want to offend anybody well that doesn't help anyone okay because then at
that point the congregants or Timothy should I say probably would have the
response of saying well who are you talking about specifically so I can warn
people about but what if Paul the Apostle just played it safe and say well
I don't want to offend anybody I don't think it's right to call people out I
don't feel like it's right to name the names you know he would be placing
Timothy in a situation a difficult situation where he would have to discern
well who is he talking about you know is it I Lord kind of thing whereas where
Paul is specifically naming these people Timothy knows okay I know who you're
talking about I'm going to you know call them out publicly rebuke them before all
that others may fear and the reason I make that point is because of the fact
that people get offended sometimes when we preach a sermon and we call people
out by name they think it's you know untactful or it's just not appropriate
it's not Christ like to call people out by name you should call them up and talk
to them about it but folks if the Bible talks about or gives us examples of
people being called out by name we should do the same if they're dangerous
people okay you know we shouldn't beat around the bush and say you know there's
this one guy out there I don't want to say who his name is you know what I mean
but this pastor is teaching false doctrine you know you got to be aware of
this one pastor I'm not gonna call out the church I'm not gonna call out the
name you're just gonna have to figure it out by yourself now folks it's important
for us to say hey it's Norm Diamante okay it's important to say hey it's this
pastor it's this person or whatever so that you know who we're talking about so
you're not left in your mind doubting man I wonder if he's talking about you
know some other youtuber or something like that no now you know who I'm
talking about okay because his name is called out so that's the first thing
that I want you to notice is the fact that Paul does not beat around the bush
when it comes to warning the flock regarding bad people he says it's
hymenaeus Alexander it's Philetus and in fact he doesn't even beat around the
bush when it comes to people he just doesn't like right because he talks
about homogenies and and and he talks about Alexander the coppersmith who we
don't really know if they're false prophets or something but he's saying
hey they did me much evil so I just want to warn you about this particular person
because of the fact that you know they did me much evil the Lord reward him
according to his work I mean he is given an imprecatory statement regarding
Alexander the coppersmith saying I hope God rewards him according to his work
because he did me much evil and so you know I like the fact that the men in the
Bible are just a men of like passions amen and we should be the same so he's
writing to Timothy regarding these particular people and first and second
Timothy are very doctrinal books or admonishments instructions on teaching
doctrine making sure they were strict about doctrine because hymenaeus and
Philetus exists because hymenaeus and Alexander exist and they not only exist
in the first century AD they also exist today people who try to creep in
unawares teaching things which they are not for filthy lucre's sake people who
try to pervert doctrine and so it's important for us as God's people to be
able to identify these people look at chapter 1 and let's read in verse number
three first and foremost I want to show you where this is taking place okay
because this is not some house church that they're referring to this is not
just anywhere there's a particular place where this is actually taking place look
at verse number three it says I'll be saunty to abide still at where Ephesus
when I came into Macedonia that thou mightest charge some that they teach no
other doctrine he's not pulling this statement out of a hat this statement
that he's making this instruction that he's writing is based upon some things
that are happening specifically at the church at Ephesus he's saying hey
Timothy you need to make sure you stay at Ephesus and you charge people what
does that mean you command them did they teach no other doctrine now that's not
referring to all right you could teach about salvation but don't talk about the
post trip pre-wrath rapture you know don't teach about any other doctrine you
stick to what you know kind of thing you know just stick to one subject no when
he says no other doctrine is referring to no other false doctrine don't teach
anything that's outside of the parameters of God's Word make sure
people are not going around you know teaching that the Christmas tree is
pagan or something like that trying to teach that Christmas is pagan and all
these things and teaching that the earth is flat or whatever and teaching just
nonsensical teachings that don't match up with the Bible he says I'm telling
you that you charge them so he's like I'm giving you I'm deputizing you I'm
giving you the authority to make sure you go to Ephesus and you teach them not
to tolerate false doctrine now let's see if that was actually carried out go to
Revelation chapter 2 if you would revelation chapter 2 because when you
read the book of Ephesians you don't really have examples of what's taking
place here and one of the reasons why is because of the fact that maybe the book
of Ephesians was written prior to the book of first of second Timothy or prior
to the events that took place in first and second Timothy okay but the book of
Revelation when the letters are written to the seven churches which are in Asia
some things are explicitly said and we can tie those into what Paul is telling
Timothy in first Timothy look at chapter 2 verse number 1 or verse number 2 it
says I know thy works and thy labor and thy patience I want you to notice this
and how thou canst not bear them which are evil and thou has tried them which
say they are apostles and are not and has found them liars you know what the
most satisfactory feeling in the world is for a Christian to find people who
are just liars to just catch people red-handed in a lie to have them teach
some false doctrine you just debunk them you just destroy whatever they're
teaching you found them to be liars so this is obviously an ethic a spiritual
ethic that they've developed over the years where they had a zero tolerance
for false doctrine people coming in saying there were apostles sent
messengers of God and what do they do they tried them which say they're
apostles or not and has found them liars it says in verse 3 and as born and has
had patience for my namesake has labored and has not fainted so we see that this
is a very doctrinally pure church now we see later on obviously that you know
they were they were neglecting the most important work which is you know the one
of the works that God has called us to obviously is to study to show ourselves
to prove them to God a workmen that needed not to be ashamed and there are
heavily emphasizing that but they were neglecting the first works okay they
weren't preaching the gospel and so Jesus is rebuking them for the for these
things and I personally believe that they probably got that right I mean when
you get a letter from Jesus you know you're not gonna take it lightly like
hey guys the oh John sent that no no Jesus Jesus actually is the one saying
this so we got to get this right so I'm sure they got that right but what we see
in the book of Revelation chapter 2 is the fact that they actually took the
admonishment or should I say they were well equipped and trained by Timothy who
was left at Ephesus and he charged them that they teach no other doctrine okay
go back to first Timothy if you would first Timothy so this is where this is
taking place it's at Ephesus and the reason that's important because of the
fact that you know in every church not just Ephesus there's always gonna be
doctrinal issues people who come in and try to teach weird stuff but even in the
age in which we live it may not necessarily happen here but there's tons
of it on the internet where you have these guys who are like self-ordained
you know you have the the the Brian Dunlinger's of this world the Robert
Breakers you know these these these weirdos who are self-ordained they have
these online church ministry or something that the church in the clouds
or whatever you know where where they're teaching God's Word the perverting
judgment and you know they give themselves credibility and let me just
say this is that look folks I'm thankful for the internet we have a YouTube
channel there's tons of people who listen to our preaching online and thank
God for it but if all that was removed guess what I don't get my credibility
from a YouTube channel in fact I already got my credibility when I was ordained
by another pastor of an actual church you know you know like the biblical
model which is that pastors are supposed to send out pastors churches
beget churches so another one approves you as being the man fit for the job
lays hands on you and send you out to do the work of the Lord we don't get
ordained online and I'm for YouTube I think it's great I think social media is
great we could reach a lot of people but that doesn't necessarily give us the
credibility what gives us the credibility is the man of God who is
ordaining you for that job understand and so what we see here though is the
fact that he's telling them these things he's saying look stay at Ephesus charge
them that they teach them where the doctrines verse 4 neither give heed to
fables and endless genealogies which minister questions rather than God the
edifying which is in faith so do he's basically telling them hey make sure
you're preaching this you're charging them and then he says in verse 6 from
which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain janglings okay now what
is vain janglings well later on we'll see in the book of 1st Timothy in
chapter 5 he talks about vain babblings so janglings is the same thing as
babbling you know you ever met someone they just say a lot but they're not
really saying anything at all they have a whole lot of a whole lot to say but
not a whole lot of substance to what they're saying they say a whole lot of
content or they have a lot of words but the reality is it's just a bunch of vain
jangle okay just mark it down when you see someone like that what are they
doing they're swerving okay why well because of the fact that when we preach
God's Word it's supposed to be plain not jangling not a bunch of noise it's made
plain we preach the word we're instant in season out of season we're approved
rebuke exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine all scripture is given by
inspiration of God it's profitable for doctrine for a proof of correction for
instruction in righteousness so if these things are important to us we're to put
the cookie on the bottom shelf for everyone but when you have someone just
saying all types of things and you kind of walk away wondering well is it by
calling upon the name of the Lord or is it not just mark it down that person is
trying to confuse you that person is filled with vain jangling vain babbling
now why is that why do people teach false doctrine because I believe this is
referring to Hymenaeus and Alexander which is at the latter end of the
chapter okay why do people teach false doctrine why do they do that why why do
they teach false doctrine well I'm gonna give you a couple reasons why okay
number one is the most obvious reason and that is because they're wicked false
prophets okay go to go to the book of Titus if you would look at Titus chapter
1 and verse number 10 Titus 1 verse number 10 says for there are many
unruly in vain talkers you know like the vain janglers the vain babblers here's
another synonym vain talkers and deceivers by the way especially they
have the circumcision it's referring to the Jews there all right whose mouths
must be stopped who subvert whole houses teaching things which they are not
why for filthy lucres sake the Bible says so a lot of times these false
prophets want to teach false doctrine because it's making them money Joel
seen the Rick Warren's of this world you know these prosperity preacher types
they do it they teach false doctrine with no conscience whatsoever because
they're trying to make money off of it he says one of themselves even a prophet
of their own said the Christians are always liars evil beasts slow bellies
this witness is true wherefore rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in
the faith not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men that
turn from the truth he says in verse 16 they profess that they know God this is
similar to what we see in 2nd Timothy where it says they have a form of
godliness but actually they deny the power of the earth so what does that
tell us well you know Matthew 7 puts it out it puts it this way they're wolves
in sheep's clothing because obviously if they're gonna deceive people they can't
come looking like Robert breaker they can't come looking like Brian Dunlinger
they can't come looking like a false prophet they have to come looking and
speaking like you and I they have to be wolves in sheep's clothing why because
they're trying to deceive they have to cloak their deception in a little bit of
truth to deceive people and he says they profess that they know God but in works
they deny him being abominable disobedient and unto every good work
reprobate go back to 1st Timothy if you wouldn't 1st Timothy so one of the
reasons that they teach false doctrine is just because they're wicked and you
know some people need to come to grips with that people need to come to grips
that false prophets do exist that evil people are actually real that there's
literally people with the nefarious agenda to damn souls to hell okay you
know this is not just something that you see in the movies in fact evil people
are worse than the people that you see in the movies worse than the villain
the worst villain you'd ever see is worse than then the you know t1000 of
Terminator reparates of this world are worse than that you know they're worse
than any villain you ever meet on I mean name your most villainous villain
Danos dang you guys are too young for me I don't know who that is Jason that's
more like my generation yeah the guy with the hockey mask right I was
thinking of someone else but name another one some more Freddy Krueger
who Biden no but see he's real he's real he's worse than the movies he's worse
than Chucky it was based upon Biden he's worse I mean he's false prophets of
this world are worse than those people and you know what false prophets do
exist they exist to teach dandable heresy to damn souls to hell to beguile
unstable souls the Bible says to destroy people's lives that's one of the reasons
that they teach false doctrine but another reason why they teach false
doctrine look what it says in first Timothy chapter 1 verse number 7 desiring
to be teachers of the law now this particular category we can't really say
if they're false prophets in the sense of like their reprobate we don't know we
just know that the motive behind teaching false doctrine or teaching
really stupid stuff it's because they desire to be teachers of the law they
want to be pastors they want to be evangelists they want some sort of a
position of authority and because of that they want to come up with these cute
doctrines and in doing so what do they do they pervert the Bible because they
want to be accredited with teaching this new truth or something like that you
know they desire to be teachers of the law but what does it say understanding
neither what they say nor where of they affirm let me put it to you in plain
2021 English they don't know what they're talking about they don't know
what they're talking about so why do they do it because they want to be
teachers of the law they want to look and act like they're waxing eloquent
like they know what they're talking about but they don't know what they're
talking about he says desire to be teachers of the law understanding
neither what they say nor where of they affirm but we know that the law is good
if a man use it lawfully what is that telling us you know when someone out
there is teaching out of the King James Bible and they're teaching something
really stupid don't blame the Bible that they're using right I mean Robert
breaker and Brian Dunlanger they use the King James Bible but it's not the
King James Bible's fault or why they're so stupid don't accredit what they're
teaching to the Bible because they're simply perverting what the Bible says
the law is good if a man use it lawfully the King James Bible is great if you use
it lawfully but if you use it to teach stupid doctrines you know then you're an
idiot that doesn't make the Bible does it doesn't discredit the Bible that
you're using understand now look obviously there's false versions of the
Bible out there but I'm saying when false prophets will use the King James
Bible you know a good hope kjv type of a person say that they're King James only
but they're teaching false doctrine it's not the Bible's fault right why because
we know that the law is good if a man use it lawfully so one reason why people
teach false doctrine because they're false prophets deal with it believe it
accept it don't think that there's every human being out in the world is a good
person they mean well no folks sometimes they're just rotten people out there
they exist and you need to come to grips with the reality of it we don't live in
this Disney world type of you know where where you just ride off into the sunset
and the bad guy dies or whatever you know bad guys still exist in this world
now one day they'll all be cast into the lake of fire I agree but you know what
until then you know sometimes bad guys prevail and they teach false
doctrine they infiltrate they teach false things but not only that they
teach false doctrine because they desire to be someone they want to be teachers
of the law okay and this that particular reverse verse reminds me of Norm Diamante
Norm Diamante is the guy who has this channel it's called good hope kjv and
you know initially he was teaching pretty decent stuff it was all about
salvation it looked like good soul-winning tips or good salvation tips
and illustrations or whatever it's one of those things is like you know got
nothing against the guy looks like he's doing well he looks like he's sincere of
heart it looks like you know some good stuff right and the reality is this
let's just let's just call it the elephant in the room okay most everything
that he was teaching came from new IFP churches okay let me just just just
point out the obvious here is that most everything that he taught that was good
came from new IFP churches the churches that he is now attacking but then all of
a sudden it comes out attacking calling upon the name of the Lord saying you
don't have to call upon the name of the Lord to be saved now let me just help
you out with something whenever someone tells you not to do something that the
Bible clearly says to do we're not talking about like some obscure verse or
something like that I'm talking about when they attack something where the
Bible says do this and they tell you oh no don't do that okay then that person
is probably a false prophet why because he's saying you don't have to call upon
the name of the Lord to be saved for whosoever shall call upon the name of
the Lord shall be saved you don't have to do it with your mouth that if you
confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in our heart that God
raised him for the dead thou shalt be saved so whenever someone tells you the
exact opposite I mean I know this is elementary but whenever someone takes
the exact opposite what the Bible says is instead do the exact opposite that
should be a red flag to you that person is probably a bad person and so what we
see here is that people teach false doctrine because there are false
prophets or they just desire to be teachers of the law which is what this
guy is doing you know and you know he made that stupid video and I went on
there because it comes up on my on my recommended and there's a thing called
the comment section on YouTube and so you can leave a comment whether you
approve or disapprove you know I mean and so what I did this is what I put
what a joke period so it was a joke you expect us to believe that you should not
call upon the name of the Lord to be saved that's a joke when the Bible
clearly teaches that you're supposed to call upon the name of the Lord so then
he gets on there and and by the way you can no longer go to the comment section
to validate this because he turned off the comment section but don't worry
they're screenshots he starts calling me a liar he's saying I'm a deceiver
he's calling me a fatso a Gordito I mean I took that person he's like going off
and saying all these things and he said hey you know he said some word in
Spanish that means like a deceiver and I just responded by saying hey another
one bites the dust because he like many others have exposed themselves for who
they really are and then he just went off and he started insulting me and
saying all these things or whatever and I said why are you getting mad why are
you upset I said you made a stupid video I was like so we're just saying it's
stupid and I said look I'm the one telling you that I'm an actual pastor of
a real church this is what I said I'm a pastor of a real church and I said look
the only reason anybody even watches your channel is because of Alexander
Scorby because the man's channel has millions of views not because of him but
because of Alexander Scorby's Bible reading I mean I've watched this
channel just to listen to Alexander Scorby turn on the book of John I mean
you look up Alexander Scorby KJV his channel is probably gonna pop up and I
said that's I said let's just be honest that's the only reason people go to your
channel and I just said this norm who norm who and then he he responds by
putting me in quotes saying oh I'm a pastor of a real church ordained by the
new IFB folks when you put something in quotes that means you're quoting the
person who's supposedly stated it verbatim I never said I was ordained by
the new I just said I'm a real pastor of a real church and he's like the only
reason people listen to you is because it's because of pastor Steven Anderson
and this I responded with man I must have really hurt you then he reported my
comment he reported my comment you said how do you know he reported your comment
well because when you delete a comment it goes away when you report it the
comment that you made you can see it but no other account can see it so he
reported it and I don't know he might have put it under like bullying or
something like that he reported my comment and then you know my what a joke
comment was getting more likes than any other comment that was on a video which
there's a ton of comments on that video basically showing you that people are
like this is stupid this is a joke so what does he do he turns off the comment
section why turn off the comment section folks let me just say something about
the comment section it helps your your videos and it makes for good videos
later on I mean I made a couple videos called you pass from here reads mean
comments and we get it from the videos well you know this is snowflake
generation they can't take criticism they can't take correction they can't
take admonishment or just like oh let's just silence them let's just this cancel
culture type of generation they can't handle the truth you can't handle the
truth so what do you just turn off the comment section so then later on
he makes a post on that channel because everyone in the new IFP a lot of people
the new IFP are getting on them they're like this is stupid your teaching false
doctrine this is what the Bible says and he's doubling down on it let me just
let me just share something with you folks if you're wrong you're wrong
there's nothing wrong with saying hey you know what I made a mistake stupid
video I'm really sorry you're right this is what I meant but maybe I just didn't
word it correctly I'm really sorry about that let me take down that stupid video
you know a lot of people would respect that guy but he's not looking for
respect he's looking for subscribers that's what he's looking for he's not
looking to be right he just wants to teach stupid doctrines so he makes this
post and this is the most telling thing that he said okay he said oh I'm being
called a child of the devil because I never asked Jesus to save me and this is
what I responded with because it was on a community post this is what I was
wondering with I'll say it's it I'll say it's it hey this by thy words thou
shall be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned there you go and
folks you do have to call upon the name of the Lord to be saved no you know when
the Bible says confess with your mouth believe in your heart they're kind of
synonymous one with each other no one leads to the other that's why it says
confess with your mouth for what the heart man believeth unto righteousness
but what the mouth confession is made unto salvation and it says how shall
they call on him and whom they have not believed showing you that the
prerequisite to call upon the name of the Lord is you have to believe it gives
you the order of sequence that the prerequisites to every single step
leading up to salvation I mean no one would get up and say well people could
just read the Bible and just be saved like that no you need a preacher to come
to you and actually give you the gospel you're not gonna remove the element of
the soul winner and say people could just get saved like that no because you
need the human instrument of a soul winner to open their mouths boldly to
make known the mysteries of the gospel to get you saved well why would you
remove the very last step which is calling upon the name of the Lord it's
very strange folks and then he uses John chapter 12 to try to prove his
point and say well the Pharisees believe but they didn't confess them openly for
fear of the Jews you see they believed and they didn't confess openly because
it confessed you know they didn't openly make a public profession about their
faith no folks let me just explain something to you it's very simple when
the Bible says that the Pharisees believed but they confessed to him not
openly in other words they weren't telling everyone that they were
Christians because they didn't want to get put out of the synagogue it doesn't
mean they didn't call upon the name of the Lord for salvation you understand
you know because one of his one of his proselytes was saying well confess
doesn't really mean you know a public declaration or something like that it
only means to be in agreement and this is what is he gonna say he's gonna say
this you see in the Greek this is what it says you know and this is me I'm
sorry where does it say this folks words and even in the English language have
various meanings that mean almost the same thing but they were used for
different in different contexts but just a casual if you even just casually look
up the word okay the Greek word for confess you'll see that it says agree
but it also says to publicly declare well I never means to publicly declare
it never means to publicly confess it just means to agree well in that case
when the Bible says to confess your faults one to another I guess we just do
it in our hearts I guess when I want to confess my faults you I just stare at
you the whole time as I'm speaking in my heart I mean is that what it means or
just confess means hey these are my faults I fall short you know I'm
struggling in this area or something yeah it means to publicly say it means
openly say it look obviously confess can mean to agree obviously that's true but
in context of salvation it does mean to verbalize asking God to save you and
they want to get into this minutiae you know details of well what are the exact
words folks save me remember me when I will not come into the kingdom I mean we
don't expect people to be a theologian in their prayer life to get saved you
understand well let me say this you know out of the abundance of the heart the
mouth speaketh it's not like I believe this in my heart but no I will not say
this with my mouth what kind of nonsense is that we cannot but speak the things
which we have seen and heard and folks calling upon the name of the Lord dates
back all the way to Genesis chapter 4 before the Bible told us about Abraham
believing in God and it was counted unto him for righteousness which is later in
Genesis the first mention of calling upon the name Lord is Genesis chapter
number 4 showing you that God is placing an emphasis on calling upon the name of
the Lord before even places the emphasis on believing on the Lord for
salvation and both are important obviously you need both to be safe what
I'm saying is that it dates back all the way to Genesis chapter 4 you know the
law of first mention you want to see how something important is or what the Bible
teaches about something go to the first time that is mentioned in the Bible first
time calling upon the name of the Lord is mentioned in the Bible Genesis
chapter 4 then men began to call upon the name of the Lord oh I guess you just
got a bunch of people in the world just agreeing in their hearts no I'm saying
that they got saved okay and so people teach false doctrine like hymenaeus and
and Alexander because they're either false prophets or they just want to be
teachers all they want to be somebody and this is why in first Timothy the
Apostle Paul goes over what the qualifications of a bishop it's not like
I mean I got to fill up this letter with some stuff let me just put the
qualifications of a pastor in here you know that'll take up a good chunk of the
letter here no he's putting that there for a reason because these guys who
desire to be teachers of the law they're not pastors they're wannabes right
there are a bunch of wannabe pastors wannabe preachers want to they desire to
to be teachers of the law and look if any man desire the office of a bishop he
desires a good work but the bishop the Bible says has to be apt to teach he
can't be a babe in Christ he can't teach stupid things so what happens to
hymenaeus and Alexander we'll go to chapter 1 go to the latter end you say
man I feel uncomfortable these kind of sermons you know it's just like calling
people out and stuff and it just doesn't sound nice you know well you know Paul
tells Timothy in verse number 18 this our charge I committed to these son
Timothy according to the prophecies which went before on the that thou by
them might is war a good warfare folks I don't know if you know this but
Christianity is warfare it's not a walk in the park it's not a theme park says
you're going to war and he says if you're gonna go to war you need to make
sure you take the prophecies which went before on the and obviously with
Timothy's referring to the Old Testament referring to what they had then the
revealed scriptures he says according to the prophecies which went before on thee
that thou by them might is war a good warfare you need to be able to defend
the faith used in the Bible okay he says holding faith and a good conscience
which some having put away concerning faith have made shipper what does that
mean and of course he's referring to hymenaeus and Alexander what does it mean
to be shipwrecked well what this is referring to is the fact that you think
of a Christian being represented as a ship in the sea they're going to a
specific destination and they're on that course okay but you know the Bible says
there would be no more children tossed to and fro carried about with every wind
of doctrine by the slight of men and cunning craft in this whereby they lie
in wait to the sea so God wants us to stick on the straight and narrow
doctrinally in our practice and he doesn't want us to turn aside into vain
janglings why because once you start getting into stupid doctrines you're
gonna eventually hit some rocks and you're gonna be shipwrecked and once
you're shipwrecked you're no longer sailing your ship is worthless Paul said
in first Corinthians chapter 9 I keep under my body and bring it into
subjection let's buy enemies when I preach to others I myself should be a
castaway in other words I don't want to be worthless in the Christian life
therefore I'm going to discipline myself so that I remain useful John 15 talks
about you know people who don't abide in the vine they're cast forth as a branch
they are withered men gather them and cast them through the fire and they are
burned what does that mean they become worthless so a person who becomes
shipwrecked doctrinally is a person who has swerved they're carried about with
every one of doctrine now today we don't necessarily have every wind of doctrine
we have every wind of YouTube videos and people get carried away with a lot
of crazy stuff folks when they're saying this is pagan you're watching some
YouTube videos out there from some Judaizing wannabe teachers out there
these Judaizers who want to you know they want to devalue Jesus Christ in his
birth even to the point where they'll attack a Christmas tree they'll attack
Christmas the Grinch's of this world that's what they are yeah the Scrooge's
of this world no one got that one where's Moses you know they try to they
try to Judaize Christianity devalue Christmas devalue the Christmas tree why
because they want to attack Jesus Christ okay and where do they get it from I'm
telling you they get it from YouTube videos sometimes look folks when you
start placing a heavier emphasis on some channel which some channel says more
than the Bible then you're probably swerving and look I'm not the type of
pastor that says don't watch YouTube don't watch any of the sermons because
you do whatever you want you know I remember in times past I had leaders
just like watch out for the so-and-so watch out for this there's people on the
internet you got to watch out for them my philosophy is this why don't I just
train you to know what the truth is right and then you know you're on your
own after that and look if you get carried away some wind of doctrine and
become some heretic it's not my fault why is that my fault I'm teaching the
Bible you're lost not mine sorry and if you're saved you know you're not gonna
follow the voice of a stranger okay and plus we're in a church where we teach a
lot of doctrine people are keen to the right doctrines they're keen to false
prophets and heretics I mean we have to kind of like cool it down sometimes I
was like all right that's like a hot red we need to bring it down to a cool blue
all right not everyone's a reprobate not everyone's a false prophet type of a
thing but you know I rather I rather pull the reins on a horse than have to
kick a donkey all right I rather pull the reins and so I say well you know
chill out a little bit you know not everyone comes to those doors the
faggot all right you chill a little bit I rather have to do that than have to
kick a mule but what happens is some of these people's they make shipwreck so I
believe sometimes Christians can become shipwrecked just get off doctrinally why
because one of the works of the flesh is what heresies not Danville heresies but
heresies nonetheless and he says in verse 20 of whom is hymenaeus and
Alexander whom I've delivered unto Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme
that's a very interesting statement and it should something should come to mind
when you hear that right being delivered unto Satan what is that what does that
make you think of Church discipline first Corinthians chapter 5 go there
first Corinthians chapter 5 Church discipline is a practice of the church
and that we see in first Corinthians chapter 5 dealing primarily with someone
who is involved in fornication we see the list of sins mentioned at the latter
end of first Corinthians chapter 5 and it's not just fornication it's drunkenness
idolatry all these other things but you could add to that heresies you could add
to that blasphemies and heresies and all these other things because first
Corinthians 5 is not the list of first Corinthians 5 is not necessarily
exhaustive list because there's times that people get thrown out for offenses
in the church for heresies in the church for you know just being inappropriate in
the church for whatever reason sometimes it's literally at the discretion of the
pastor to throw someone out this is basically the basic list here that he
gives us that for sure it's like if you're committing fornication drunkenness
railings etc but look what it says in verse 4 in the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ when you're gathered together my spear with the power of our Lord Jesus
Christ to deliver such in one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh that
the spear may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus now both this verse and first
Timothy chapter 1 referring to hominids and Alexander kind of leave room for us
to wonder are these people saved or not like his hominids and Alexander are they
false prophets are they saved or not and kind of God kind of leaves us an
obscurity for a reason because it's kind of obscure and I'm explain to you why
he doesn't make it very clear whether these people say are saved or not okay
the reason why he doesn't make it clear whether they're saved or not is because
he doesn't want us to alleviate the punishment on that person if they're
saved in other words it's like oh man but he's a brother in Christ God's like
brother in Christ or not the punishment still stands on both why because what
does the Bible say in Matthew chapter 18 that they are to be unto us as a what
heathen and as a publican so even if they're saved that they get thrown out
of the church the Bible says treat them like an unsaved person so the reason he
gives us these examples of hymenaeus and Alexander and even in the guy in 1st
Corinthians chapter 5 and he doesn't make it very clear whether they're saved
or not it's because it's not really important whether they're saved or not
the important thing is is that you dish out the appropriate punishment to these
guys whether they're saved or not if they're saved throw them out if they're
not saved throw them out if they're saved deliver them them unto Satan if
they're not saying deliver them unto Satan the punishment the degree of
punishment does not change based upon whether they're saved or not because the
violation is still valid their violation is still there so based upon that
violation God says you need to cast them out deliver them unto Satan that they
may learn not to blaspheme okay now we don't know the blasphemy of hymenaeus
and Alexander you know blasphemy simply means to speak irreverently of something
you know if you blaspheme if you blaspheme God you're speaking
irreverently of God but sometimes people can blaspheme and they can they can
speak irreverently of the Christian of Christianity or the Bible like for
example Paul was a blasphemer he didn't blaspheme the Holy Ghost because at that
point he'd be irreverently right the Bible says he was just a blasphemer in
other words he spoke irreverently of Christianity so we don't know exactly
what hymenaeus and Alexander are guilty of we do know that it's tied into what
they were teaching them and they're blaspheming the Word of God for that
reason they were thrown out okay and so we see here that they made shipwreck
they were delivered unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh they may learn
not to blaspheme turn with me if you would go to chapter 6 go to chapter 6
and by the way that's why chapter 4 exists right because chapter 4 he says
now the spirit speaketh expressly then in the latter time some shall depart
from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils is it
any coincidence do you have hymenaeus and Alexander being mentioned at the
latter end of chapter 1 and then he says in chapter 4 some shall depart from the
faith giving heed to seducing spirits doctrines of devils what does it mean to
depart from the faith I believe this is referring to people who have fallen from
grace doesn't mean that they lost their salvation it means they were just never
safe to begin with okay so he tells them hey this is how you save yourself from
false doctrine this is how you save those who are listening to you from
false doctrine look at chapter 6 in verse number verse number 3 he tells us
how to deal with these people he tells Timothy if any tea if any man teach
otherwise and consent not to wholesome words what's another way of saying
wholesome words that which is clearly stated that which is whole right nothing
wrong with someone has a different opinion on obscure scriptures the book
of Revelation you know parts of the book of Daniel but if someone is not
consenting to wholesome words like for example believe on the Lord Jesus Christ
and thou shalt be saved you know the Word of God was made flesh and dwelt
among us those are wholesome words in other words there's no room for doubt of
what it's talking about oh that's your interpretation how many times you've
ever heard that Sony well the Bible says here all you have to do is believe
on the Lord Jesus Christ you can be sick yeah that's that's your interpretation
no there you don't really need to interpret much here it just says you
just have to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you can be saved you know no
prophecy of the scripture is given of any private interpretation the Bible
says especially that which is most important in the Bible such as salvation
God clearly lays it out tells you what you have to do because he doesn't want
you to be doubtful or confused regarding salvation so the Bible says here that if
any man teach otherwise and consent not to wholesome words even the words of our
Lord Jesus Christ and to the doctrine which is according to godliness he is a
scholar he's a theologian that guy knows this stuff he must have a lot of YouTube
subscribers he must have millions of views no he's proud oh what does that
say no it's nothing he doesn't know anything because once you start
subverting the Word of God once you just go against the clear teachings of the
Bible you don't even know anything that's right idiot once you say the
exact opposite of what the Bible says okay you're an idiot I know you you're
an idiot you know nothing he is proud knowing nothing but doting
about questions and strives and words well what if someone is you know like
mute or something you know all these stupid hypothetical questions that
people bring up oh what if someone's deaf do we really have to open our
mouths boldly to make known the mysteries of the gospel what if someone
is just deaf well first of all the vast majority of deaf people can hear a
little bit still we have deaf people in our church and they still are able to
hear somewhat okay they're legally deaf okay but folks obviously if someone is
Helen Keller status then obviously that would be the exception to the rule folks
don't dote about stupid questions
doting about questions and strives of words where earth coming cometh envy
strife railings evil surmising so what is the result of these type of questions
arguments stripes disputes evil surmising railings folks I literally
just put what a joke and he's just like you're a deceiver and by the way that is
a railing accusation no proof of where I'm a deceiver just calls me a deceiver
so guess what norm you're marked from our church so do you think he's not
saved who cares he's done to me into our church as a heathen and as a publican no
hope I don't care how many subscribers you got I don't care how many views
Alexander Scorby has on your channel I
don't care what you do you're railing I'm not a respecter of people and
therefore because you're a railer against yours truly your mark from our
church evil surmising look what it says perverse disputings of men of corrupt
minds and destitute of the truth supposing that gain is godliness look
what it says here from such withdrawal thyself the Bible says you need to get
away from these people okay stay away from these people why because of the
fact that what they do is they beguile unstable souls during that whole
debacle there's a lot of babes in Christ that were getting carried away with his
nonsense people like a little man maybe well isn't he right though like don't I
mean what if you know they start coming up with those those doting questions
again don't about those questions well you know doesn't the Bible just say
believe in the Lord Jesus Christ well he's a good guy listen to a couple of
his videos you know he kind of helped me in my soul honey he kind of helped me in
this and these babes in Christ are being carried about with this guy's wind of
doctrine Bob says from such withdrawal thyself from such withdrawal thyself and
look this is a stupidest thing I've ever heard when dealing with something like
this why don't you just call him because I don't like talking to heretics
there's my answer because I don't like talking to heretics and you know what
most of the people who follow that idiot are idiots themselves let's just be I'm
just being honest with you because I've spoken to them I've spoken to people
who've spoken to them they send me screenshots of their conversations where
they're just like I told them this guy's a wicked person and that individuals
like show me he's all right here the screenshots he's railing against pastor
Mihir he's saying this he's a I don't even care about that though okay oh I
know you you're an idiot it's like you instantly recognize people like that and
then these same people are contacting me show me where he said this and I'm like
do you follow this guy do you agree with them yeah I agree with them but show me
show me proof I'm like I'm not here to prove that I'm right I'm here to block
you I'm here to make sure that you to confirm that thou are an idiot I'm
nothing to prove to you who are you sometimes people give themselves too
much credit go to 2nd Timothy chapter 2 I don't have any notes so I don't know
how long I'm gonna go we're just kind of going through this all right you guys
cool with that or what all right so what's the answer to this well the
answer is not for me to say stay away from them don't listen to them you know
for me it's like hey if you want to follow people off a cliff go for it
because to me it's more like you know what if you follow people like that then
you deserve to follow someone like that if you like people like that then you
deserve you you guys deserve each other I don't try to keep people away from
people like that I warn people of them and people with you know any brains in
their head well no I need to withdraw myself from this person because this
person is wicked that's right not because you're gonna be influenced by
them because you don't want to be associated with wicked people that's
right who wants to follow a wicked person nobody does not a righteous
person doesn't want to associate themselves with the wicked individual so
what is the answer well look what it says in 2nd Timothy 2 and verse 15 it
says study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be
ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth so number one we have to say the
Bible ourselves study the word of gold read Romans 10 yourself it's still there
Romans 10 9 and 10 11 12 13 it's all there in plain English you know what's
interesting about this guy all the Bible says believe in thy heart and thou
shalt be saved why'd you leave out the other part of the verse why'd you leave
out the power says to confess with your mouth because you hate it so much because
it goes against what you believe folks let's quote the entire thing only wicked
people remove things from the Bible folks right the Bible says to study to
show ourselves and prove them to God so we need to study the Word of God go look
it up yourself go look up Romans 10 13 go look up Genesis chapter 4 go look at
all the ports just look up just type in call upon the name of the Lord and see
how many times that thing comes up in relation to salvation it's closed but
not only that verse 16 says but shun profane in vain babblings for they will
increase into more ungodliness you know one thing I've learned about these
idiots this is not the only stupid thing he's gonna say because according
to the Bible they will increase unto more ungodliness even example manly
Perry you might not know who he is this guy came out with one false doctrine
after another and it just kept getting worse it's like one week ago I was like
whoa this is bad they can't get worse than this and then he just come out with
something way worse it was like I stand corrected I stand corrected and then he
said like you know he was saying that Jesus Christ was like a literal bread
and then Mary was like an oven and you're just like people go to this guy's
church this is crazy I look folks think about it you shouldn't feel bad for
people who go to that guy's church initially I felt bad like those poor
people but then once he starts teaching all that crazy stuff and they remain
there like oh no you deserve to be there because if you can hear something like
that and it doesn't bother you it doesn't rub you the wrong way you know
you deserve to be there you understand and so what am I saying is that often
when people come out with some stupid doctrine they will increase into more
ungodliness they'll teach weirder stuff Tyler Doka Tyler Doka came out with the
Flat Earth and then after that he just snowballed into the all these weird
weird doctrines like Christians are gonna be in the lake of fire you know
it's just like based upon how much bad you've done you'll be there for a little
bit you know it's just like what so the Bible says what are we what should we do
Sean profane and vain babblings you should be able to identify vain babbling
it says in verse 17 and their word will eat as doth a canker of whom is
hymenaeus and Philetus by the way hymenaeus seems to be the focus of a lot
of what's going on here he's mentioned in chapter 1 of 1st Timothy as
blaspheming and then with his other partner Philetus he's teaching someone
something else he says and their word will death eat as a canker of whom is
hymenaeus and Philetus who concerning the truth have erred saying that the
resurrection is past already now this is dandable heresy and overthrow the faith
of something so that means that people some people who were saved they were
getting you know carried away with this now here's my speculation of what this
is actually referring to what they're probably doing and it's still wrong is
they're pointing to the partial resurrection of people who came back to
life when Jesus Christ resurrected you remember people came out of the graves
it was only like a partial resurrection it obviously wasn't a glorified
resurrection people just came to life so they're kind of using that as their proof
as to all the resurrection is past already or something they're overthrowing
the faith it sounds like the resurrection is not gonna take place in
the future it already took place this is your first example of preterism
because preterism teaches all these things have already happened the rapture
already happened resurrection already happened well hymenaeus and Philetus are
the architects of that doctrine but what I want you to notice is that it says
that they overthrow the faith of some of who those who are not studying those who
are not studying they could get carried away with these things folks that's why
it's important that you not only listen in church to the preaching but you
better go home and study it yourself you better go home and crack open your Bible
and say Lord open down mine eyes that I may behold wondrous things out of thy
law teach me the Word of God help me not to be simple simple-minded help me not
to be a fool help me not to be a child help me to mature spiritually to not be
tossed to and fro carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of
men they're cunning craftiness they're trying to deceive me I want to know the
Bible I want to know what the Bible says so that you don't have to keep coming to
me or others in the church saying hey how do I can you talk to this person
instead I don't know how to answer this you learn how to answer you learn how to
debunk that doctrine you learn how to debunk that false teaching you learn how
to answer people study to show thyself not approve them to me I was just
approved them to God that means God holds you accountable so you know what
God's not gonna blame me like hey Bruce you know Jordan got carried away with
some false doctrine that's your fault he's gonna hold Jordan accountable and
Jordan can't blame me I'm just using it as an example you know let's say he
didn't know the Bible he can't go to God and say well you know pastor me here
then and teach me this it's like well you have a Bible you should have learned
it yourself you have the Holy Spirit dwelling within you you have the unction
of the Holy Ghost within you you should have known this you should have studied
this this is your job okay I'm gonna give an account that I may do with joy
not with grief for your souls because I'm watching over you you understand but
I'm not gonna give an account for the knowledge that you know that's your job
okay and so you know Hymenaeus Philetus and Alexander are bozos idiots who were
cast out of the church at Ephesus they were marked by the Apostle Paul for
teaching stupid doctrine were they saved I don't know but based upon what we see
here in 2nd Timothy 2 probably Hymenaeus was not saved because they're teaching
that the resurrection is passed already okay but at the end of the day it
doesn't matter there is a good hope cage are you saying that he's not saved I
don't care I'm gonna treat him like one how about that but do you believe he's
not safe I'm a treat him like I believe he's not saved because the Bible tells
me that he's like a heathen and as a publican well how can you talk about him
like you know me lives he's changed and how many things he's done for people and
all these things he's ever what is he done a channel folks our channel can get
shut down tomorrow the work of God will still continue at first words Baptist
Church still gonna get a bunch of people saved thank God for the internet but
folks the work of God is primarily here getting people saved preaching the Word
of God turning people to righteousness I'm not gonna sit down in this corner
right here with my phone and just depend on me making videos what's up
everyone can you lose your salvation and I'm not against making videos like that
I think it's important but that's not the only thing we're doing I got my
fishing pole and all types of ponds folks and you know what my first
responsibility is being a pastor that's my first responsibility preaching God's
word leading God's flock winning souls to Christ and I'm ordained of the Lord
Jesus Christ because the Lord Jesus Christ ordained the man of God who sent
me out because he was ordained by a man of God who was sent out by another man
of God not some self YouTube ordained idiot with the Napoleon complex let's
pray father we thank you so much for your word and thank you for the book of
first and second Timothy I love these books especially as a pastor there's so
much instruction at admonitions there I pray God that you would help us as your
people to shun faint profane and vain babblings the vain janglings Lord help
us to study to show ourselves approve them to God and these doctrines are
important Lord you want us to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered
unto the Saints and these types of doctrines are gonna come under attack
throughout the years help us to never grow weary of fighting for the truth
and help us to fight to the bitter end and Lord the Apostle Paul said himself
that he finished his course his ship reached the end he stayed the course
help us not to be distracted and and swerve unto vain janglings and Lord I
pray you bless our church help us to continue to get more people saved to
turn many to righteousness we love you we thank you for these things in Jesus