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at 5 p.m. and then we have a Thursday night Bible study at 7 o'clock. We are currently going through the book of Genesis

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verse by verse. We will be in Genesis 24 this coming week, so we welcome you to come to that.

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We are a family integrated church and so infants and children stay with their parents in the service.

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But for your convenience, we do have mother-baby rooms located throughout the building should your child need some diversion.

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There's changing tables, speakers, and screens available there so you can still tune into the preaching and come back in at your discretion.

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If you need help finding those rooms, you can talk to one of the ushers and they can lead you to one.

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You see the so many times and teams listed there in the middle and then the list of expecting mothers.

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If you can keep them in prayer, please pray for your Uriah's upcoming stent procedure.

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Also, visitors are welcome to see the lemons and iris.

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They are at the Children's Hospital Orange County.

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I believe just the only thing they're keeping people from is actually seeing Uriah.

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But if you want to see the lemons and iris, of course, you can do so.

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I'm sure the Lemons will appreciate that.

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Give them a text message or a call letting them know you're going, but please pray.

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for his upcoming stem procedure. I believe that's going to be on Tuesday.

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And so please keep that in mind and keep him in prayer.

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You see the stats for salvations and baptisms for the month of May.

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And on the right hand side is the upcoming church events tonight is the

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ice cream social and that'll be after our pm service

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tonight. And so welcome you to come back to some

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preaching tonight and get some ice cream with us as well.

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And then this Friday is our Independence Day picnic.

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It'll be on the third. Details are at the guest center. We welcome you to come to

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to that please sign up if you're.

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going to come just so we can get a head count of everyone who's going to be attending.

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And then the Watermelon Fellowship is on Sunday, July 5th after the PM service.

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And then Ms. Robbins' baby shower will be on Sunday, July 12th after the AM service.

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We'll give you more details about that.

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Please make sure you silence your phones during the preaching so as to not be a distraction

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during the service.

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And that is it for our announcements.

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Song number 15, Lead Me to Calvary.

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Song number 15, Lead Me to Calvary.

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Song number 15 altogether nice and strong on that first verse.

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Lest I forget Gethsemane, Lest I forget thine agony,

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Lest I forget thy love for me, Lead me to Calvary.

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Show me the tomb where thou wast laid, Tenderly mourned and wept.

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In robes of light of rain,

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Guard in thee whilst thou slain.

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Lest I forget Gethsemane,

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Lest I forget thine agony,

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Lest I forget thy love for me,

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Lead me to Calvary.

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Let me, like Mary, through the gloom, come with a gift to thee.

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Show to me now the empty tomb, lead me to Calvary.

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Lest I forget Gethsemane, lest I forget thine agony.

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I forget thy love for me, lead me to Calvary.

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May I be willing, Lord, to bear daily my cross for thee.

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Even thy cup of grief to share, thou hast borne all for me.

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Lest I forget Gethsemane, Lest I forget thine agony,

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Lest I forget thy love for me, Lead me to Calvary.

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In that great scene, at this time the ushers will come forward to receive the offering.

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You can turn your Bibles to 1 Thessalonians chapter 5.

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1 Thessalonians chapter number 5.

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morning when first that's going to be a spy

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with the entire chapter together beginning in verse number one

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first that's alone in chapter five bible reads

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but at the times and seasons brother and you have no need that i write into you

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yourselves know perfectly that the day of the lord so cometh as a thief in the

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night

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for nation say peace and safety

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then sudden destruction come upon them as travel upon a moment when with child

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and they shall not escape

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But ye brethren are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

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Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day.

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We are not of the night nor of darkness.

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Therefore let us not sleep as do others, but let us watch and be sober.

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For they that sleep, sleep in the night, and they that be drunken, are drunken in the night.

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But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and

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wearing helmet the hope of salvation.

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For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.

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who died for us that whether we wake or sleep we should live together with him

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wherefore comfort yourselves one another even as also ye do

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and we beseech you brethren to know them which labor among you and are over you in the

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Lord and admonish you

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and to stand them very highly in love for their works sake and be at peace among

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yourselves

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now we exhort you brethren warn them that are unruly

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comfort the feeble-minded support the weak be patient toward all men

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See that none render evil for evil unto any man, but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves and to all men.

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Rejoice evermore, pray without ceasing, and everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

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Quench not the spirit, despise not prophesying, prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

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abstain from all appearance of evil.

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In the very God of peace sanctify you holy,

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and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless under the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Faithful is he that calleth you who also will do it.

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Brethren, pray for us.

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Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

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I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren,

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that the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

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It's great. Your Lord God. Thank you again for all you bless us with. Just ask that you be our other passion now

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Please fill them with your spirit

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Ask that you'd bless the message he's prepared and please just give us yours to hear and in Jesus name we pray. Amen

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Amen

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Okay, we're in 1st Thessalonians chapter 5 this morning, and look down at your Bibles

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in verse 21.

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It says, prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

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Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.

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The instruction that's being given here is that we as Christians should not just take

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any information at face value.

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We should test it.

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We should prove it to see if these things are so.

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So it doesn't matter how convincing someone may sound when they present it.

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Doesn't matter how many graphics there are.

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are or how many people believe it, at the end of the day,

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we need to make sure we test it to see if it's true

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and then hold fast to that which is good.

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That's what the Bible tells us to do.

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And in fact, this doesn't just apply to spiritual matters.

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It applies all across the board to everything in this world.

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Our natural disposition should be that we test things, we prove things, and see if these things are legitimate or not.

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And you know what? If they're not legitimate, we're not to believe it, right?

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If there's no legitimacy to people's claims, then we are to just outright reject it.

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It doesn't matter how many people believe it.

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doesn't matter how many groups of people claim.

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to assert that this is true, we need to make sure,

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hey, if it's not, then it's not true.

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Why is that?

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Because the Bible's telling us here

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that we should have a bias for truth, okay?

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Meaning it doesn't matter how many people condemn us for believing it, how many people condemn us for not believing it,

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we have a bias for truth and therefore we should believe it if it is true, if we've tested it and

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completely reject it,

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completely do away with it if it's completely false. Okay?

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And with that being said the title of my sermon this morning is flatlining the flat earth.

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flat lining the flat earth. I'm going to preach an entire sermon this morning

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on the false doctrine of the flat earth and make no mistake about it, it is a

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false doctrine.

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Okay, well let me just shoot you a video real quick before you preach the sermon.

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So many videos,

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there's good videos out there. Well how about we just go ahead and stick to the Bible first

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and then demonstrate from the Word of God that the earth is not flat.

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Okay.

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Now, why is it important to preach on this subject?

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Well, because of the fact that flat earthers will assert that the Bible teaches that the

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earth is flat, at which point it's no longer just a stupid idea.

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It actually becomes heretical, okay, because it seeks to use the Bible to substantiate

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its absurd claims, all right?

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So this is why it merits a sermon.

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In general, in my experience, flat earthers do not have a bias for truth.

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You know, Flat Earth is leaned towards having an allegiance towards a certain conspiracy,

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despite the evidence that points to the contrary.

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And you know what?

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That is not a virtue of honor.

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That is not something that is honorable in the eyes of God.

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We should seek to only accept things, prove all things, hold fast that which is good,

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and completely reject fables and profane conspiracies that don't have any substance in truth.

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Now look folks, undeniably there are conspiracies out there that are legitimate, okay?

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So don't think, oh man, he believes that the earth is round, that must mean that he believes

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that the Jews are God's chosen people.

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Well, you know, if you've known me long enough, you know that I don't believe that.

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And I do believe that the Jews are largely responsible for a lot of evils in this world.

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But let me explain to you why I believe that.

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Because it can be proven!

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It's not something I just believe just because a bunch of people believe it.

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I don't believe it just because it's really popular right now on the internet.

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In fact, I believed this before it was popular on the internet.

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You know, I'll give you some other conspiracies that are not necessarily foundational in the Word of God,

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but I believe to be true.

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How about 9-11, right?

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Now look folks, there's people even in our church that don't believe in, you know, or

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that believe the official story of 9-11, believe it or not.

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You know, and you're like, oh man, how can people believe?

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Yeah, but at the end of the day, because it's not a biblical concept, it's not a biblical

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subject, who cares if they do, right?

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If people believe the official story and you don't, it doesn't really matter because at

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the end of the day, in the house of God, we are to believe what the Bible actually states.

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So outside of that, people are welcome to have whatever.

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they have or want about whatever is going on in the world.

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You know, here's another thing.

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How about vaccines?

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You know, I'm against vaccines wholeheartedly.

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Okay.

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And I've preached about vaccines. I've given, you know, I've extrapolated principles from the Bible

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of why it's important not to take vaccines. But there's no verse in the Bible that says,

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thou shall not take vaccines. Okay. We can extrapolate principles from the Bible to

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substantiate that. I don't get vaccinated. I don't vaccinate my kids and I don't promote

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vaccination for anybody. But you know, if someone does that in our church, I'm not going to say

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they're just Godless people who don't know the Bible because at the end of the day,

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it's not an explicit scripture in the Bible.

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Oh, you need to watch this one guy though.

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No, I need to keep my eyes on the Bible is what I need to do.

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Because then people start becoming Pharisees

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and start teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.

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Which is exactly what we want to avoid doing this morning.

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So obviously there's, you know, conspiracies out there that are legitimate.

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And there's certain conspiracies that aren't, but who cares if they believe it,

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if it's not something explicitly mentioned in the Bible.

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Here's one, the moon landing, right?

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This is somewhere where our church is very largely divided on when it comes to the moon landing.

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And just to let you know, I believe we landed on the moon.

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Oh!

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You know, I don't care if you disagree with me, because at the end of the day it's not a doctrinal issue.

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It's not a doctrinal issue, you can disagree with me.

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Now if you start railing on me and calling me godless or whatever,

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and I don't know the Bible because of it, now we got a problem.

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Those are fighting words.

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Because now you're railing, because you're claiming that

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I don't know the word of God just because I believe in the moon landing or something like that.

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That's nonsense.

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People are welcome to have whatever opinions they want on things that aren't necessarily clear on the Bible

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But let me say this the flat earth when it comes to the subject of the flat earth the Bible is very clear on this

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And it doesn't matter how many videos there are

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and how many hours these videos are, okay?

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How many people in the world believe it?

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If it's wrong, it's wrong because broad is the way

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that leads to destruction and many there be

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which go in there at.

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So the volume of people that are converted to this doctrine

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does not substantiate its legitimacy.

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There's tons of people who believe in Islam, okay?

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There's tons of people who are Catholic.

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Tons of people who believe in false religion

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doesn't make it true, okay?

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And so, you know, obviously to paint with a broad brush and say that absolutely everything is deceptive in this world,

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despite clear evidence that is presented, is not a sign of integrity, my friends.

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It's a sign or an attribute of delusion.

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It's a sign that you don't have a bias for truth because we should desire to believe things

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if they can be proven.

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This is what the Bible says, prove all things, hold fast, that which is good.

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And this morning I do want to preach on the Flat Earth.

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We're going to go through a lot of information.

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Brother Hernandez, turn on the AC please.

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Let me also say this, you know, it was very difficult researching this concept of the flat earth online.

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And let me explain to you why, because there's not a single individual that actually agrees online.

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They all disagree with one another.

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There's no definitive model of the flat earth.

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There's no definitive measurements that they believe.

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Everyone believes something different.

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Some believe that planets exist, others don't.

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Some believe that the dome can be measured, others don't.

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It's just a lot of different opinions within the flat earth community.

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So it's kind of hard to pinpoint what exactly do they believe.

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So, you know, I did a little construction here.

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And no flat-earther can get mad at me,

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because there's no definitive, you know,

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this is more real.

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This flat-earth is more real

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than the flat-earth that actually exists.

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Now, I'm gonna offend a lot of flat-earthers,

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because this is like, they're physical balls, right?

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Whereas flat-earthers believe that they're lights.

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But look, they spin.

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Now, I have...

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Now, I had Ulysses make this, and you know,

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Ulysses behaves like the aliens in movies

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where he only believes America exists.

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Okay?

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And I was like, what is this?

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And he was like, that's Africa.

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Bro, what?

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What do you got against Africa?

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Like, we're missing a large portion of the world there,

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Ulysses, but obviously it doesn't matter, you know.

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This white part here is the ice wall.

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Okay, and so you know it spins so you got the ice wall you got the water you got America because that's the only thing

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That matters you know obviously

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You know what in the world cup was a world cup you know I mean

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It's just all right, and I got some Legos here to help us kind of illustrate some points here

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We'll use that later, okay, and then we have the legitimate model here. It's kind of small though. I couldn't find a big one

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I'll use that later

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Now, again, flat earthers don't even agree.

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They don't have a definitive measurement for anything.

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Whereas those who believe that the Earth is a sphere,

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there are definitive measurements for that.

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OK?

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You know, generally, everyone agrees

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that the Earth's circumference is about 24,901 miles.

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And from pole to pole, it's 24,860 miles.

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And everyone can come up with that number.

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Like, oh, NASA gave you that number, though.

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It was NASA who gave you that number.

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Well, OK, NASA, GPS, satellites.

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But also, you can actually perform these studies

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independently if you want to.

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You can not be lazy and actually do the measurements yourself.

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Because people have done this for thousands of years.

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And in fact, some of the earliest records

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of people performing these science

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experiences to see how many miles the Earth is

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goes back to 240 BC.

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So there's nothing stopping you from actually measuring

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the circumference of the Earth.

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And so it's crazy.

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It's just like, oh, no, the Earth is flat.

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Then go ahead and measure it for us then.

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Go ahead and gather all your Flat Earth buddies,

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get a GoFundMe, because there's enough of you guys

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to fund the project, and go measure it yourselves.

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And you know what, if you did, then why don't you guys

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agree on the definitive measurement of the Earth,

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if it's flat, okay?

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I'll tell you why, because it's all speculation.

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And you know what, this is all introduction.

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One of the major red flags of Flat Earthers,

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in my opinion, is that they're often

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given clear demonstrations, clear evidences.

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you

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And despite that, they will continue to believe in delusional ideas.

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Okay?

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Now let me give you an example of this.

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You know, there was a video that I did watch, okay?

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And basically what it was is there was a guy who believed that the Earth is a sphere, okay?

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Which by the way, the more technical term is an oblate spheroid.

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Okay?

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That's actually what the Earth is, meaning that it's wider at its center than it is at

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the poles because it's spinning.

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So you know, it has love handles, you know what I mean?

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So I'm no longer going to say I'm fat, I'm going to say I'm an oblate spheroid, right?

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So this guy believes in that and he said, you know, he put the challenge out there to

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flat earthers and said, look, let's go to Antarctica.

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You know, because flat earthers don't believe you can go to Antarctica, but you actually

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can go to Antarctica.

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You can actually fly to Antarctica.

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There's people that work there.

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There's people that travel there all the time.

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And you put it out there and you say, let's go.

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Because all these flat earthers throughout history have said, you can't go.

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You can't go there.

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And it's impossible because of the fact that they know that if we went there in order to

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observe the sun, because there's times throughout the year where the sun is essentially visible

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for a couple days.

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It circles at least 24 hours.

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And you can see it for a certain amount of time, which would disprove that the Earth is flat.

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Because again, according to this model, this is Antarctica, it would only be seen

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this part would be dark when this part would be light and so forth.

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So this guy was just like, I'll pay your way out to Antarctica to observe this.

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And all the flat Earth community was like, no, we're not interested. Why not?

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It's too expensive. How much is it one guy was just saying it's like $45,000. He's like paid. I'll pay for you

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And then the guy said well, I don't want to just go with a bunch of low people

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I would have to bring someone with me. It'll be way too expensive. He's like I'll pay for him, too

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Let's go

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So then the guy's like, oh man.

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So out of dozens of people who were invited,

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only about four or five people actually

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accepted the challenge.

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And even out of those five, only three or four

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actually ended up going.

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And then once they accepted the challenge to go,

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the entire Flat Earth community just disowned them.

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Oh, they're shills.

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They're shills.

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These guys are fake.

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They're liars.

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No evidence.

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Just an acceptance of going there.

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Oh, they're liars.

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They're shills.

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These guys are complete liars.

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You know, we need to disown them.

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Why?

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Just because they accepted the challenge.

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Something that you guys have been talking about for years,

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that this is what we should do.

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This would prove that the Earth is flat.

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And all of a sudden, it's just like, oh, these guys are liars.

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So they end up going.

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And the guy even-

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He said, I'll pay for everything.

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I'll pay $45,000 for every person who's a flat earther

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to go with me to observe the fact that you can see

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the sun in Antarctica.

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So they went.

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They went, and guess what they saw?

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They saw the sun.

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And he even told them, you can bring your own cameras.

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You can bring all the equipment that you want.

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You can live stream it.

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You can do whatever you want to record this.

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And they did.

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And at the end, they said, we're wrong.

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These guys are right.

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Now, I will admit this, is that they didn't admit

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that the Earth is round, though.

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They just admitted you can see the sun.

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OK?

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you

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Which obviously, from a scientific perspective,

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would essentially show that the Earth is a globe.

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It would prove the model that the Earth is an oblate spheroid.

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But a lot of these people still just like, oh no, it's green screen.

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It was green screen.

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So then the guy said, OK, we'll live stream it again,

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and we'll live stream facing each other.

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Because at that point, you can't fake a green screen.

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And guess what?

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They did it.

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And it was there there.

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And they're like, well, it's because they're not really

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in Antarctica.

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They're actually in Australia.

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Point to a place in Australia that looks like Antarctica,

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first and foremost.

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OK?

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And you know, Brother Connor just mentioned, like,

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if you really wanted to, you could just get together,

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put up a donation fund, and take a flight from Chile

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to Australia.

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Because according to the Flat Earthers,

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it would take about 30 hours to get there.

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But it only takes, what did you say, like, 13?

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16?

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16 hours to get there.

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Which, that's not 30 hours.

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You say, what's up with all the scientific stuff?

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Well, it's a biblical thing that we're to prove all things.

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Hold fast that which is good.

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Meaning that the Bible is compatible with science,

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my friends.

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And obviously, is there science out there that is false,

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that's fake?

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Absolutely.

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There's science out there that is science falsely

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so-called, of course.

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And you know what?

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It's the science that you can't observe.

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That's why we don't believe in evolution,

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because you can't observe it.

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But when it comes to the earth being an oblate spheroid,

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yes, you can.

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And my hope is that if we have a flat earther here,

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that you would immediately convert after this sermon.

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Why?

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Because you love the truth.

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Why not?

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Well, I've just seen so much evidence.

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Where?

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Where's the evidence?

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Where's the receipts?

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Want to see you perform these experiments and come up with the conclusion that the earth is flat

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Because no one's been able to do that. Okay, you know, you're like, well, I don't understand

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I believe the earth is this fear

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Why would people reject that concept despite the clear evidence scientific evidence and as we're gonna look the biblical evidence

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I'll tell you why because the Bible says this is the condemnation the light is coming to the world and men love

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darkness rather than light because their deeds are easy

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You know what that means?

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I don't care what the truth is.

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I'm going to keep believing this because I love

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darkness rather than light.

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And he says, for everyone that doeth evil, hateeth the light.

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Listen to this.

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Neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be

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reproved.

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Meaning that if you're a flat earther, and you didn't come

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to church today to hear the sermon, then it's probably

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because you don't want the truth.

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If you see my sermon online, and you see flatline in the

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flat earth, and you're like, I'm not going to watch this,

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it's because you hate the truth.

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Because you don't come to light lest your deeds should

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be reproved.

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But listen to this, but he that doeth truth

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cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest

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that they are wrought in God.

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You know what this means?

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The person who loves the truth says, prove it.

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Test it.

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Let's test it.

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Let's put my beliefs to the test.

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Let's prove this to see if it's true,

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to see if my deeds are wrought in God.

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Why?

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Because they actually have a bias for truth.

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And in my experience, the Flat Earthers

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Thanks for watching!

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use the same exact arguments that Zionists use.

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They have the same exact attitude that Zionists have.

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So how do you know that?

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Because I've dealt with both.

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They're essentially exactly the same.

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Because with Zionists, you show them clear evidence.

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You're just like, I just believe that the Jews are

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God's chosen people.

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I think you're misconstrued.

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These are the same arguments that Flat Earthers will use.

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And you know what?

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There's a lot of people in our church here today,

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and a lot of you are probably going to get offended at this.

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But I don't care.

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Okay, if we split the church, I don't think half the church is a flat earth

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Community, but if you never come back to the service, let me just say this

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There's a reason why God allowed you to come to this

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Specific service and if you never come back, I'm cool with that because I have a bias for truth

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Okay

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Bible tells us that love is evil more than good Psalm 52 verse 3

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You don't have to turn there and lying rather than to speak righteousness. There's people in this world who just love lies

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They just love deception. They love delusion. They like the fantasy. They like the fables. That's what they like

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This is what the Bible tells us that they love right lying rather than to speak

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Righteousness the Bible tells us Psalm 62 verse 4 says they only consult to cast them down from his excellency

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They delight in lies

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They bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly.

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Selah, Isaiah chapter 30 verse 9 says that this is a rebellious people, lying children,

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children that will not hear the law of the Lord, which say to the see or see not, and to the

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prophets, prophesy not unto us right things, prophesy, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy

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deceits. Now let me also say this.

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One thing that I've noticed is that there's just absolutely

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no righteous pastor that teaches the flat earth.

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It doesn't exist.

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And if you give me a pastor who teaches the flat earth,

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I promise you this person is largely

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off on major, major foundational doctrines of the Bible.

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And in fact, I know of a pastor who is a flat earther online.

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Oh, but he's also, he believes in the book of Enoch, too,

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by the way.

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Oh, and he's also polygamist, by the way,

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and promotes both of these very openly.

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Yeah, great example.

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Let me give you another example.

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Years ago, there was a pastor who joined himself

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to our circle of friends.

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Thanks.

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Our ball of friends.

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And he tried to join himself to us.

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He wasn't necessarily qualified to be a pastor.

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He was kind of weird in the beginning.

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He preached everything that we would preach.

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He was anti-Zionist and all this.

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And he had the right Bible prophecy and all this.

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But he was just kind of weird.

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And then it turns out later on, he just

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ends up coming out with the flat earth.

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And we're just like, what in the world?

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This guy's a flat earther?

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Like a pastor who's a flat earther, you're like, well, what's wrong with that?

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You know, let people have their opinions.

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Well, here's the problem is that according to the Bible, we need to shun profane and vain babblings,

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for they will increase them to more ungodliness.

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So the Bible tells us that when we believe a heretical doctrine,

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and when we're presented with the truth, we continue to believe that you could actually wax worse in your doctrine.

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So this guy, he teaches the flat earth.

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Weeks later, he starts teaching Daniel Heresy.

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He starts saying that Christians can go to hell

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and that they will be in the lake of fire for 1,000 years

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for doing wrong.

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So he starts saying that Christians

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are going to go to the lake of fire.

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Like, well, yeah.

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Well, if you believe that, you're just not saved.

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Let me just tell you right there.

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But that's not the worst part.

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So first he taught flat earth, then he started teaching that Christians will go to hell for a thousand years, then he just said that he's Jesus.

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He said he was Jesus. He said he was the Son of God.

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And he said his head was the temple.

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You're like, surely people stop following.

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No, he got more followers because of that.

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Why?

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Because people love lies.

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They love deception.

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That's what they're all about.

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And now he's not even a pastor.

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He's like, I don't know, he makes motorcycles or something

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and just left Christianity just in general.

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So that is your example right there.

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And you know what?

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If the Flat Earth was a legitimate thing,

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why can't we find righteous pastors preaching this stuff?

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Is it because pastors in general have a bias for truth and when you do find a pastor that does believe it

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They're also often a bunch of other stuff that is like foundational to the Christian faith

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The bible tells us there will come a time when they will not endorse sound doctrine

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But after their own lust shall they heed to themselves teachers having itching ears

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The bible tells us that they will turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned unto fables

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Go to isaiah chapter 40 if you would isaiah chapter 40

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Isaiah chapter 40, let's get into this.

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Flat earth fails the test of scripture.

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We're going to talk about, let's prove the flat earth

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according to the scripture.

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And let's just automatically go to the passage of scripture

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that people will point to to demonstrate not only

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that the earth is flat, but that it's clearly not a globe.

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This is what they'll go to.

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Isaiah chapter 40, let's talk about the circle of the earth.

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This is their go-to gotcha verse.

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OK?

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you

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Look at verse 21 if you would of Isaiah chapter 40 and says in verse 21

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Have you not known have you not read hath it not been told you from the beginning?

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Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth

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And the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

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So this is the quintessential passage of scripture that flat earthers will use to demonstrate that the earth is flat and that it's not a spherical object.

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Okay.

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The fact that it says in verse 22, the circle of the earth.

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However, a flat circular object with thickness.

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OK?

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Is actually called a cylinder, first and foremost.

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OK?

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Or a disk, right?

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It's not merely a circle.

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It's actually a cylinder.

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Anybody know what I'm talking about?

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OK.

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Smart people out there?

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All right.

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And flat earthers will respond to this and say, yeah,

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but from God's perspective, when he looks down upon it,

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it looks like a circle, though.

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OK?

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And so that's why he used that particular term.

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Right, he used that term because of the perspective.

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And what's interesting is that in a three dimensional sphere,

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which we believe the Earth to be,

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the Earth also appears circular from every viewing angle.

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So whether you look at it from the front, from the back,

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from the side, side, left to right, top to bottom,

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a sphere will always look like a circle.

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So for the Flat Earthers to use that argument and say,

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yeah, it's a cylinder, but he used circle

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because from his perspective, that's what it looks like.

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Amen to that.

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The only difference is it's not flat.

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Because even according to the Flat Earth model,

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now I didn't do justice here, there's a cone below this.

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Now, obviously it depends on who you ask, too.

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Sometimes there's a turtle.

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Like, if you look at the different model,

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I'm not kidding.

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There's like a turtle there.

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There's like four actual Roman pillars there.

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The general one, the most popular one,

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is just the cone-shaped one.

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It's just a cone.

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Well, that in geometry is a cylinder.

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And so the way they respond to that is like, yeah,

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but it's circular from the top.

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Yeah, guess what?

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A sphere is circular from any angle.

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So that's an appropriate term to use.

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So when the Bible describes the Earth as a circle here

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in Isaiah chapter 40, it's essentially

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describing the Earth's visible outline.

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That's what it's doing.

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Now the common response from flat earthers in this regard,

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and this is where they really try to get you,

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the common response that they will give you

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is that if God wanted to communicate the fact

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Thanks for watching!

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that the earth is a sphere in Isaiah chapter 40,

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he would have used a different word in Hebrew

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that communicates that, such as he did in Isaiah 22.

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Go to Isaiah 22 if you would.

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Isaiah chapter 22.

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So keep in mind, they'll point to Isaiah chapter 20, verse 22,

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to demonstrate that the earth is flat,

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as demonstrated by the fact that it's using the word circle.

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When you point to the fact that their model is actually

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a cylinder, they will go and say, well,

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we're looking at the perspective.

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We'll say, well, a sphere is also from a perspective.

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The outline is a circle.

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And then they'll respond with, yeah, but the Hebrew word there,

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if God really wanted to communicate this,

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he should have used the same word that we see in Isaiah,

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chapter 22.

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Look at verse 17, if you would.

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Isaiah 22 verse 17 says, behold, the Lord will carry thee away with the mighty captivity

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and will surely cover thee.

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He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country.

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There shalt thou die and there the chariots of the glory, thy glory shall be the shame

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of the Lord's house.

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Aha!

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Gotcha!

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You know, ah, it fills with fear.

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God should have put ball there in Isaiah chapter 40,

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because we have a word here.

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God used ball there.

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You know what I mean?

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So let's talk about that.

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Let's talk about the Hebrew words

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for both of these renditions that we see in Isaiah chapter

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40 and Isaiah 22.

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you

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And I'm going to give you the bastardized pronunciation

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of these Hebrew words.

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Obviously, it doesn't matter because no one knows how

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to pronounce it anyways.

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So let's just give the Americanized bastardized

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pronunciation of these words.

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So the first word for Isaiah 40, verse 22,

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when talking about the circle, the Hebrew word there is hug.

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OK?

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Hug.

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And the Hebrew word for a ball in Isaiah 22 is kador.

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So you have hug for circle, kadur for ball in Isaiah 22.

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So they just say it.

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So follow me here.

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Their argument is, well, if the earth is actually a sphere,

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God should have used kadur instead of hug in Isaiah

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chapter 40.

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And he would have clearly communicated

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that the earth is a sphere, as noted by the fact

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that there's a Hebrew word for ball.

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So the argument follows that if the earth

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was spherical in nature, God would

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have used that word instead.

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But here's the problem with this argument.

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The problem is that flat earthers

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assume that these words exclusively only mean one thing.

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So in their mind, well, hug only means circle,

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and ball, only, kadoor only means ball.

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So that's why you should have used it.

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Well, go to chapter 29, if you would.

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Chapter 29.

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So, hug can only refer to a circle,

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kadour can only refer to a ball,

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but I'm sorry, you don't know ball!

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Don't try to act like you're some sort of expert

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just because you found ball in the wording there.

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You gotta understand, they're synonyms, right?

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Now why are you turning down,

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I'm gonna read you from Job 22 verse 14,

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it says thick clouds are covering to him.

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you

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that he seeth not, and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.

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Circuit, the word being used there, is hug,

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the same word that we see for circle.

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And you can see very much the similarities between the two.

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A circuit is basically a course that you take.

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It has that same meaning of circular traveling, a circuit.

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But now let's look at Isaiah 29, verse 3.

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Verse 3 of Isaiah 29 says, and I will camp against thee.

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Listen to this, round about.

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and will lay siege against thee with the mount,

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and I will raise forth against thee."

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Well, the underlying heaver word for roundabout is Kedur.

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That's weird.

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How come he didn't put ball there?

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If ball, Kedur only means ball, then why didn't he

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put ball there?

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I'll tell you why, because it would sound really dumb to say,

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I will camp against thee, ball.

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Doesn't make grammatical sense.

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you

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But according to the Flat Earther's interpretation

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of how words should work, it should always say ball.

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Because that's what's being communicated,

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because Kador only means ball.

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No, it says here that he will camp against the roundabout,

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kind of like a circle.

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Kind of like a circle.

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Destroying the notion that ball should

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be used any time something circular or spherical

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is being mentioned in the Bible.

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False.

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False. Roundabout, Kador, being rendered here in Isaiah 29 as roundabout and in Isaiah 22 as ball.

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Why is that? Well, because God is communicating perspective.

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That's what he's communicating here.

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And he's not going to say, I will throw thee like a roundabout.

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You guys get what I'm saying here?

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Why? Because that would sound stupid.

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I will throw the-

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It's not coming back.

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We're not talking about a boomerang here.

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He's saying he's casting them away.

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It's not coming back.

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And it would be nonsensical to say,

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I'm going to throw you roundabout.

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It's better because the idea here is circular.

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It's like a ball.

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I will throw you like a Cador, like a ball.

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Because a ball's round.

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It's roundabout.

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But it's also, roundabout is also used to describe

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circling something, you know, like a circle.

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So if Kedur only meant ball, then you

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would have Isaiah 29 read.

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And read roundabout instead of roundabout, it would say ball.

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And so that would make absolutely no sense whatsoever

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The point being here is that all of these passage passages have one thing in common and that is description based upon perspective

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That's what it is. Okay

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Isaiah 40 uses the circle in order to describe the earth because the emphasis is placed on what the greatness of God

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Right?

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The fact that when he looks at the world,

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he looks upon the circle just as anybody would

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if they're looking at a globe.

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No matter what angle you're looking at it from,

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you're looking at the circle.

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And look, to say, well, it says circle,

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so it's literally a circle, I guess

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we're literally grasshoppers.

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I guess he's literally sitting upon the Earth.

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I guess the heavens are literally curtains and a tent.

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Folks, he's expecting for people to use common sense.

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Wouldn't read in the Bible.

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OK?

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you

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Furthermore, to interpret circle as literally a flat disk,

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you would literally have to interpret every portion of the passages like that,

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in any part of the Bible,

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whereas just overly literal doesn't work.

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It's completely nonsensical.

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Common sense tells us that these passages are not geometric descriptions.

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Meant to teach us the shape of the earth but rather meant to exalt the greatness of God in this perspective of the world

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Now I will be honest with you. We could literally just finish the sermon there because that's their strongest point

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That's literally the strongest point when it comes to the shape of the earth

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Okay, that's the strongest point and it's completely destroyed because now they can't use Kador and ball

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They can't use Isaiah 22 to substantiate that claim because it doesn't make sense when compared to other portions of scripture

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But we're not going to stop there.

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Go to Genesis chapter 1.

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Genesis chapter 1.

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So that claim is completely unfounded.

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Oh, circle.

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And look, people can make the argument,

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we cannot definitively say that the circle is a globe.

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And I would be willing to agree with that.

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Yeah, because it's not a scripture teaching us geometry.

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But let me say this.

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There's far more evidence to substantiate the claim

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that that verse is teaching that the Earth is a globe

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than it is teaching that the Earth is flat, which it's not.

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Thanks for watching!

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And look, I'm going to be a man of integrity and tell you,

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like, yeah, the circle of the Earth,

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I can't look at that and say automatically

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that it's a globe, because that's not what's being emphasized.

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So we would have to take the descriptions of the Bible,

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compare it to that which is actually proven and tested

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scientifically, and come to the conclusion

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because both science that's observed and tested,

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and the Bible are compatible, because they're both true.

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All right, so that's the circle of the Earth.

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Now let's talk about the firmament.

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Now, I messed up.

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I couldn't make a firmament.

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I don't know how.

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You're just going to have to imagine, just like we're

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imagining right now, that there's some sort of globe

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over this.

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It's like a snow globe.

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So in the flat Earth model, you have the cone.

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You have the flat Earth.

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And obviously, you don't have these.

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And these are lights.

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So the sun and the moon are lights in the sky

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that actually are below the physical dome

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that they refer to as the firmament.

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And then after that, you really gotta talk

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to like 100 different flat earthers

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to figure out what is they believe outside of that.

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you

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You ask us, we know what's in the exosphere,

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because you could observe it.

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They say, well, they're not planets.

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Some say there are planets.

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And here's the thing.

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If you don't believe in planets, then

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just say you don't believe in the Bible,

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because the Bible says the word planets.

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I mean, that's in the Bible.

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I talked to someone, and I said, well,

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planets is in the Bible.

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And they're like, no, it's not.

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I'm like, there it is.

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And he's just like, oh, OK.

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What do you want me to do?

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It's there.

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So case closed.

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Now what is the firmament?

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The firmament, according to the flat earth model,

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is a physical dome that surrounds the flat earth.

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Now let me explain something very important

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when discussing these things with flat earthers.

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Nothing about the rendition of the firmament

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adds any credence to the shape of the earth.

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So let's just pretend for a second that there

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is a dome over the world.

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It does not prove the actual shape of the earth.

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You said, then why do they bring it up?

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Because in their minds, these arguments

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will substantiate the claims that the Earth is

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flat for whatever reason.

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But this is a common tactic amongst flat-earthers,

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is that they'll use arguments from other categories

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in order to lend veracity to the shape of the Earth.

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So in other words, you have these categories.

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You have flat Earth.

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You have the firmament.

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You have geocentricity, for example.

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And they will borrow arguments from these other categories

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in order to claim that the Earth is flat.

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So whenever you're talking to a flat earth, and say, hey,

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the earth is not flat, they're like, I just can't see how

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we're just spinning so fast around the universe.

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Separate argument.

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That has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

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And I'm not standing up here saying that I'm a

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heliocentrist either, because the earth is not the only

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thing that's spinning.

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The sun is also spinning in this universe as well.

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Point that I'm making is that you've got to be careful.

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They can be crafty.

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Because of the fact that they'll use these other arguments like the firmament in order to prove that the earth is flat

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But there's nothing about it that demonstrates that it's just another weird idea

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That they come up with okay

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This is very common amongst flat earthers

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They'll borrow arguments from other categories to lend legitimacy to the shape of the earth

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So a dome they have a dome over the earth

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and so forth.

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That's what they believe.

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Now, the term firmament is not a common word

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that we would use today.

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It's found various times throughout the Bible.

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You have it in Daniel chapter 12, Psalm 19.

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You have it in Ezekiel chapter 1, Ezekiel 10.

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And it's most commonly found.

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It's actually mentioned 17 times in the Bible,

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with the majority of them being mentioned in the Genesis

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account.

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Now, what is firmament?

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Well, the literal definition of firmament is space.

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you

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or an expanse.

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And let me explain to you how it came to be that word.

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Why is it, why does that word exist in order to describe

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space or an expanse?

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It actually comes from a Hebrew word which is rakhia.

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And this word actually is a noun that stems from a verb.

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verb meaning to stamp out or spread metal. So you think of gilding for

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example when people would you know put gold plating over something they're

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spreading it out they're hammering something out it's being spread out

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what's being spread out is not where the noun comes from the noun comes from the

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action of spreading out

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So the noun, firmament, actually comes from a verb that means

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to literally spread out or stamp out,

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not referring to a particular object, just the action itself.

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You understand what I'm saying here?

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That is what Rikia is.

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And we find it multiple times in the Genesis account.

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Look at Genesis chapter 1, verse 1.

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It says, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

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And the earth was without form and void.

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And darkness was upon the face of the deep.

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And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the water.

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So think about this.

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You know, in this primordial stage of creation,

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God creates the heaven, referring to His heavenly abode.

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And He creates the earth.

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But when He creates the earth, it's basically...

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A sphere of just water, okay?

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Because it says there, darkness upon the face of the deep.

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It says the spirit of God moved upon the face of the water.

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So there is no atmosphere.

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There's nothing there.

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It's just a, yes, a ball of water.

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That's exactly what it is.

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Look at verse six.

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And God said, let there be a firmament

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in the midst of the waters.

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Thanks for watching!

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and let it divide the waters from the waters.

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God made the firmament, divided the waters which were under the firmament

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from the waters which were above the firmament, and it was so.

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And God called the firmament heaven,

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and the evening and the morning were the second day.

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So what we have here according to the proper interpretation

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is that, you know, if we were to look at... where's my ball?

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If we were to look at the globe, it's all water.

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No atmosphere, no land, no hills, no mountain ranges,

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no nothing, just water.

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So God begins to construct or make space

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for these things to exist.

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So as he begins to lower the sea levels, the ocean levels,

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what happens?

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Land begins to rise.

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So he's separating the firmament from the waters,

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from the land.

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He's creating space so that things

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could exist within this expanse.

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You know, this is, it's not like even the world that you see on Interstellar where it's just a world planet of just water or something like that.

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Okay?

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And we'll come back to verse 6 in just a bit. Look at verse 14 if you would.

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verse 14 says in God said let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the

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night let them be for signs for seasons for days and years and let them be for lights in the

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firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth and it was so so in their model they believe

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that the sun and the moon are literally just lights because they're described in the bible

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as being so right they're described as just being lights initially

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So you have these lights inside what they call the dome, which is the firmament.

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That's what they believe it is.

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Okay.

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And then you see in verse 16, it says God made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, the lesser light to rule the night.

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He made the stars also.

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So you have three factors here.

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You have the sun, moon and the stars, right?

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Look what he goes on to say here.

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Verse 17, very important.

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And God set them in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth.

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So what's the problem here?

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Well, according to the flat earth model,

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the sun and the moon are below the firmament,

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but the stars are actually affixed to the dome.

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Well, that doesn't meet the grammar,

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the rules of the grammar here in verse 17

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that says he set them, sun, moon, and stars,

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in the firmament.

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If the stars are affixed to the dome

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and the sun and the moon are below the dome,

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that's not accurate.

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He says, the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth, to rule over the day and over the night,

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to divide the light from the darkness, and God saw that it was good, and the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

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Look at verse 20. Here's another problem.

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Because you often bring up, well, doesn't the Bible say that the birds are flying in the firmament?

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Well, yeah, because they're flying within the dome.

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They're in the dome.

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So it's accurate to say that they're flying in the firmament.

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But it actually doesn't say that they're flying in the firmament though.

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Look what it says.

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Verse 20, and God said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature,

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the half-life, the fowl referring to the bird.

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They may fly above the earth in the what?

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Open firmament.

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So that's referring to the space in the expanse within,

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above the oceans.

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That's where they fly in.

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You can actually observe that outside, birds

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flying in the open firmament.

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Now, let's talk about the dome and the water

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that they claim is above the dome.

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I know this is super boring, and I'm sorry,

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but I'll never talk about the flat earth

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as long as no one else has a flat earth.

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Look at verse 6.

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It is boring, okay?

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It was vaccine to even study this stuff.

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Look at verse 6.

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And God said, let there be a firmament

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in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters

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from the waters.

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So what is he saying?

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Well, let's finish reading verse 7.

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God made the firmament, divided the waters,

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which were under the firmament, from the waters that

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were above the firmament.

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And it was so.

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Now what they assert is that when this is taking place,

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you have the water here.

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And then you have, you know, God divided it.

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The dome is the actual firmament.

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But then above that dome is like an ice wall or something.

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There's like water above that.

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And again, depending on who you ask.

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Because not everyone even agrees on that.

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I'm just kind of giving you like the general consensus

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of what they interpret this verse to mean.

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They'll use this verse to claim that there's water above the dome

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or that the dome is water.

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It's like an ice dome.

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OK?

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That's what they believe.

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Like, well, how do you explain that?

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You know, what is the biblical interpretation, pastor?

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OK, go to Job 26, if you would.

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Job 26.

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Job chapter 26.

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Now let me say this is that you can easily prove,

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you know, if you're a flat earther

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and you're tired of people criticizing your dome.

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Just go and fund me and send a rocket or something.

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Go prove us wrong.

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Go demonstrate.

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Well, we can't.

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Why?

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Why?

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And you know what?

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I would say we should do the same, but we already did.

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And all you guys say is like, it's all fake.

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It's just all fake.

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OK, then you do it, since you're the only real one.

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Since you guys are the only honest ones,

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go ahead and send something to demonstrate to us that it is.

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And someone mentioned that there's

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a guy who actually paid for all this,

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and he was like a flat earther.

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And he did it, and then he's like, well,

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it kind of does look like a curve a little bit.

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But I think I need to go higher.

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And he ended up dying.

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So I'm sure that was fake too though.

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OK, so how do you explain then the waters

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above the firmament?

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Pastor, if you believe that the firmament is simply

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referring to space, then how do you

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explain that there's water above the firmament

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if it's not an ice stone?

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OK, well let's do some science here.

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Let's talk about some science.

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Let's talk about the water cycles.

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OK?

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All right, kids, pay attention.

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Pastors are going to teach you some science, all right?

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They already know this because they're homeschooled.

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When it comes to the water cycles,

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there's actually three phases.

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You have evaporation, condensation, condensation,

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and precipitation.

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And the way it works is that you have the sun that

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heats the surface of the Earth.

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It heats the lakes, the seas, the oceans, the ground,

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the moisture there.

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And it causes water vapor to come up.

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you

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OK?

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That's called evaporation.

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So you can experiment with this on a hot day.

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You get water.

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You throw it on the ground.

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Eventually, it dries up.

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But it's not that it's just drying up.

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It's that the water's going somewhere.

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OK?

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It's being lifted off the ground.

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That's called evaporation, because the water's hot.

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It's rising up.

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Well, as it begins to rise, it begins to cool down.

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And when it cools down, it's going to evaporate.

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It's going to evaporate.

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It's going to evaporate.

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It's going to evaporate.

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It's going to evaporate.

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It's going to evaporate.

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It's going to evaporate.

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It goes through the process of condensation,

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which is why we have clouds.

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When you look outside, you see the clouds?

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That's condensation.

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These are tiny microscopic droplets

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of water that are just kind of hanging out in the sky.

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Now, there's a lot of clouds here right now.

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But think about storm clouds, for example.

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So this is condensation.

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Well, when other clouds collide with other clouds,

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when these tiny microscopic droplets collide

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with other microscopic droplets, what does it do?

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It becomes heavy, and then it falls as what?

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Rain and snow.

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It's called precipitation.

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So this is God's water cycle in order to filter water.

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We've been drinking, showering, playing with, and using

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the same water for thousands of years.

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OK?

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you

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Like, it's all the same water, right?

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Gaj has been using the same one, but this

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is his filtering system.

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This is how he does it.

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So again, you have evaporation, condensation, clouds,

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precipitation when it rains.

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Now, think about this.

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At this moment, all around the world,

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there is literally four to nine trillion gallons of water

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in the sky right now through the clouds.

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Yes, there is.

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you

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If you go to humid areas like South America, Central America,

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you go to Africa where these have these major storms,

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these major storms, major clouds, they're filled with a lot of water.

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And it's been measured that there's four to nine trillion gallons of water in those clouds.

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And in fact, you could look at the sky on a stormy day.

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I've looked at the sky on a stormy day when there's massive clouds,

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and I'm like, man, that thing looks like a city.

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It's so massive, right?

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So huge.

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And you may think to yourself, yeah, I don't know.

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Four to nine trillion gallons of water all over the world,

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pastor.

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Sounds fake and green screen to me.

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How do you have four to nine trillion gallons?

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And keep in mind, these are microscopic droplets spread

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over a large surface of the expanse.

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How can you have all that?

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Well, let me also mention that all atmospheric water,

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invisible water vapor, has about three to four quintillion

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gallons.

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Earth is very massive, and it carries all this water.

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You say, yeah, I don't buy it.

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I don't buy it.

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How could all that water be up there and not fall down?

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Well, it does fall.

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That's why you have like people.

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That's why you have like floods.

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You know, that's why people like die and stuff like that.

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You ever been to a rainforest?

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You know that that's true.

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People drown all the time.

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I mean, like, they drown in gallons and gallons of water.

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Look at Job 26 verse 7.

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That's made up.

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You can't have all that water be up there and not fall.

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Look at Job 26 verse 7.

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He stretcheth out the north over, oh, look at that,

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the empty place.

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That's interesting.

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and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

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He bindeth up the waters in his thick clouds,

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and the cloud is not rent under them."

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He said it to be that way, where you

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can have these massive cumulus clouds accumulating

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in the open expanse, and they do not fall.

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Now, eventually they will, because it follows the water

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cycle.

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So that is, listen to me, that is a tested truth.

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that is compatible with the Bible, with the waters being

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above the firmament.

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Because you have the sky, and above the sky,

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you have the clouds.

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And guess what those clouds have?

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Water.

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And you know what?

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That's observable.

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No one's ever seen a dome.

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Nobody's ever seen it.

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It doesn't exist.

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No one's ever seen it.

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But we have seen a lot of clouds.

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We've seen people die because of clouds.

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We've seen people die because of rain, because of floods.

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We've seen that it's observable.

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The point that I'm making here is

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that we need to prove all things whole fast, that which is good.

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And when we demonstrate the observable world around us

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and compare it to the Genesis account, it actually matches up.

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The dome never matches up.

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Now let me also say this.

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Obviously, people could look at the Genesis account

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and come up with speculations about a dome.

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It's not very explicit.

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But I will give you two ancient scriptures

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that are very explicit about the dome.

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Two, very important.

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One of them is the Book of Enoch.

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So you got me.

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You got me.

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The Book of Enoch is very explicit in that regard.

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But guess what? We don't regard the book of Enoch as being scripture.

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Because it's retarded. Because it's stupid.

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And it's gay. Okay? I preach so many sermons against

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the book of Enoch and it's far more explicit about the dome than the Bible is.

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You would have to, you would have to like impose that doctrine into the Bible.

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and compare with observable, but when

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compare with observable signs, you'll see that it's false.

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But the Book of Enoch is very explicit about it, though.

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That's one.

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The second book, or books, should I say,

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that's very explicit about the dome is actually the Talmud.

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Let me just throw that in there real quick.

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Sounds like a Jewish shy up to me.

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And by the way, who wrote the Book of Enoch?

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A bunch of apostate Jews?

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Who wrote the Talmud?

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A bunch of godless, Christ-rejecting,

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apostate Jews?

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And both of those are more explicit about the dome

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than the Bible is.

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Plain and simple.

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And this is why Flat Earthers love using the Book of Enoch

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when they are trying to talk about the Flat Earth.

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They use the Book of Enoch more than they use the Bible,

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actually.

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you

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I've seen this time and time again.

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You will not find me a video that

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wants to use spiritual arguments to substantiate the flat earth

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and then not use the Book of Enoch.

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They will use it 100% of the time.

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But they won't use the Talmud, because that looks really bad.

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Because they hate Jews.

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They don't like Jews, but it's just like,

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it's right there though.

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Anyways.

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So it fails.

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The firmament argument according to the Bible literally does fail.

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And obviously, you know, can we claim that there's not a dome explicitly from the Bible?

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Not necessarily. We could only take the descriptions mentioned in the Bible

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and compare it to what? Observable science.

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But if we were to use the same equation

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with the flat earth and test it according to observable science, you come up with nothing.

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Nothing.

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And let me just say this.

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Proving things, testing things is biblical.

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We're going to come across that later on.

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Solomon did this in the book of Ecclesiastes

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over and over again.

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God wants us to do these things.

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Now, before I move on here, let me give you

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some honorable mentions.

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For example, hell is a demonstration

59:42.020 --> 59:43.900
that the earth is not flat.

59:43.900 --> 59:45.900
As known about the fact that Jesus Christ said in Matthew

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Chapter 12.

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In verse 9, an evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign. There shall no be sign given to it,

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but the sign of Jonas the prophet for as Jonas was three days and three nights in the well's belly,

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so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights where in the heart of the earth.

01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.640
Cylinder does not have a heart whereas a sphere

01:00:05.200 --> 01:00:06.560
does. Okay.

01:00:06.560 --> 01:00:11.060
And of course Jonah chapter 2 verse 1 says, then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish's belly.

01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:16.740
Instead I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord he heard me out of the belly of hell cried I and thou

01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:18.960
hurtest my voice

01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:26.540
Furthermore people will often point to first Samuel chapter 2 as a proof text that the earth is flat because it mentions pillars and again

01:00:26.540 --> 01:00:31.460
Pillars the pillar argument doesn't substantiate the claim that the earth is flat

01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:35.920
Furthermore any model that you see with the cone a cone is not a pillar

01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:40.960
Whereas the Bible talks about pillars, which is plural.

01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:43.320
A cone is singular.

01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:45.760
And the pillars that the Bible mentions

01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.600
is actually, when you compare it to observable science,

01:00:49.600 --> 01:00:52.080
is possibly just referring to the mountains, the mountain

01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:52.580
ranges.

01:00:52.580 --> 01:00:53.080
OK?

01:00:53.080 --> 01:00:53.100
you

01:00:53.100 --> 01:00:57.420
each possessing extensive roots, bases, and massive rock formations

01:00:57.420 --> 01:01:02.660
below, beneath the visible surface, which would explain why there's plural pillars

01:01:02.660 --> 01:01:06.420
that are extending into the earth's core and so forth. So when

01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:11.100
Jonah is describing being in the belly of hell, having the bars around him,

01:01:11.100 --> 01:01:15.340
that would actually make sense according to the biblical standard and what is observed.

01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:17.360
Very important.

01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:18.780
So when we look at the flat earth,

01:01:18.780 --> 01:01:22.480
we see that it actually fails the scriptural test.

01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:23.980
And again, I'm not going to walk away

01:01:23.980 --> 01:01:25.560
and say that it explicitly says that it's a globe,

01:01:25.560 --> 01:01:28.720
because the Bible is not a geometry book.

01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:30.700
But at least I have the integrity to say that, though.

01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.960
I'm just saying that whatever scripture is available,

01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:37.540
when compared to observable science,

01:01:37.540 --> 01:01:42.160
would point to the Earth being a sphere, an oblate spheroid.

01:01:42.160 --> 01:01:45.400
Whereas, flat Earth has got nothing.

01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.600
They got nothing.

01:01:47.600 --> 01:01:49.320
Now, what else does it fail?

01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.320
It fails plain observation and science,

01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.800
just outside of the Bible.

01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.840
Now, let me help you to understand something.

01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:59.120
There's nothing wrong.

01:01:59.600 --> 01:02:01.160
with observing science.

01:02:01.160 --> 01:02:02.760
Science is an observation, right?

01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.240
Testing things even outside of the Bible.

01:02:05.240 --> 01:02:07.440
I mean, literally Solomon did this.

01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.480
He said he said it's hard to observe things,

01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:11.720
to study them, to prove things, even things

01:02:11.720 --> 01:02:14.040
that were outside of the Bible.

01:02:14.040 --> 01:02:16.720
Because science is true if you can observe it

01:02:16.720 --> 01:02:17.700
to see if it's true.

01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.200
So it fails just plain science.

01:02:21.200 --> 01:02:27.120
You can observe stellar parallax, stellar aberrations,

01:02:27.120 --> 01:02:30.800
two of which actually proves that the Earth rotates.

01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:34.380
You got the Foucault pendulum, where you can literally

01:02:34.380 --> 01:02:37.440
go to the Griffith Observatory and see that pendulum

01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.240
and how it moves, therefore demonstrating

01:02:39.240 --> 01:02:40.480
that the Earth is rotating.

01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:41.840
You have the Coriolis effect.

01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.480
There's so many different types of tests

01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:46.080
that you can do in this world to demonstrate

01:02:46.080 --> 01:02:47.000
that the Earth is rotating.

01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:49.720
and some of which not only prove that it rotates,

01:02:49.720 --> 01:02:54.200
but it also proves that it rotates as a sphere.

01:02:54.200 --> 01:02:56.640
But let's talk about one specific one.

01:02:56.640 --> 01:02:58.720
Let's talk about the sun.

01:02:58.720 --> 01:03:00.560
This is a really good one right here.

01:03:00.560 --> 01:03:01.640
Let's talk about the sun.

01:03:01.640 --> 01:03:05.400
Now keep in mind, the sun, according to the flat earth,

01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.520
is a light in the sky.

01:03:07.520 --> 01:03:09.680
Both the sun and the moon are lights in the sky

01:03:09.680 --> 01:03:10.720
that are below the dome.

01:03:10.720 --> 01:03:13.120
So this is what's going like this.

01:03:14.100 --> 01:03:16.100
I'll get my flashlight here.

01:03:18.500 --> 01:03:22.140
Now, this is like a Superman type sun,

01:03:22.140 --> 01:03:23.700
because it has a red light.

01:03:23.700 --> 01:03:24.620
So this is what it does.

01:03:24.620 --> 01:03:25.860
OK?

01:03:25.860 --> 01:03:27.580
Ooh.

01:03:27.580 --> 01:03:28.900
And this is how it lights everything.

01:03:28.900 --> 01:03:29.460
OK?

01:03:29.460 --> 01:03:31.540
First and foremost, you see that it only lights parts of

01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:33.820
Antarctica, right?

01:03:33.820 --> 01:03:36.380
And then it lights only, and it follows a certain pattern or

01:03:36.380 --> 01:03:37.580
whatever that they claim it does.

01:03:37.580 --> 01:03:38.420
That's how it lights everything.

01:03:38.420 --> 01:03:40.820
This is how they explain days, nights.

01:03:40.820 --> 01:03:43.700
This is how they explain the seasons and so forth.

01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:45.940
And this is why, in Europe, for example, it's dark.

01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:50.240
Because we have the spotlight on us right now.

01:03:50.240 --> 01:03:53.200
Very, very deep.

01:03:53.200 --> 01:03:55.760
But here's a couple problems with this model.

01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:58.000
There's major problems with this model.

01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.400
Is that the people in Europe can't see the sun.

01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:02.720
They can't see the sun.

01:04:02.720 --> 01:04:04.400
You say, well, they shouldn't be able to.

01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:06.480
Actually, on a flat earth model, they should.

01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.720
Because the sun never disappears below the horizon

01:04:08.720 --> 01:04:10.280
on a flat earth.

01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:11.120
It never does.

01:04:11.120 --> 01:04:11.880
It does on a sphere.

01:04:12.300 --> 01:04:13.580
But it doesn't on a flat earth.

01:04:13.580 --> 01:04:14.880
It never goes below the horizon.

01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:15.880
It should never go below.

01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.880
It should stay within these parameters.

01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.040
Now here's the thing when it comes to something going

01:04:22.040 --> 01:04:24.920
further away from you is that it will remain visible.

01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:30.200
It'll just get smaller, which poses a major problem.

01:04:30.200 --> 01:04:32.640
Because we could observe the sun,

01:04:32.640 --> 01:04:37.840
and as it goes on in the day, you will not see it shrink.

01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:38.340
OK?

01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:38.400
you

01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:40.600
So let's do a little bit of math here.

01:04:40.600 --> 01:04:42.720
I hate math.

01:04:42.720 --> 01:04:44.360
My daughter's really good at it.

01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:45.640
I hate it.

01:04:45.640 --> 01:04:52.720
But I admire math, though, because it's just so strict.

01:04:52.720 --> 01:04:54.680
It's just no nonsense.

01:04:54.680 --> 01:04:57.280
It's going to give you the right answer.

01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:58.280
It has no bias.

01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:00.000
It's not a respecter of people.

01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.120
It doesn't care if a flat-earthers' feelings are

01:05:02.120 --> 01:05:02.620
hurt.

01:05:02.620 --> 01:05:03.000
Thanks.

01:05:03.100 --> 01:05:04.560
It doesn't care what everyone says.

01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:05.900
It's just like, these are the equations.

01:05:05.900 --> 01:05:07.860
This is what it's going to do.

01:05:07.860 --> 01:05:10.460
So let's do an experiment here.

01:05:10.460 --> 01:05:11.060
Let me see.

01:05:11.060 --> 01:05:12.300
I need a table, actually.

01:05:12.300 --> 01:05:14.380
Let's go over here.

01:05:14.380 --> 01:05:16.500
I have to put it over here.

01:05:16.500 --> 01:05:19.700
Yes, I'm this short.

01:05:19.700 --> 01:05:22.260
All right, so I got two people.

01:05:22.260 --> 01:05:26.420
I got two Legos here that both believe

01:05:26.420 --> 01:05:28.140
that the Earth is a sphere.

01:05:28.140 --> 01:05:29.420
One of them is Darth Vader.

01:05:31.300 --> 01:05:32.900
Death Star, huh?

01:05:32.900 --> 01:05:35.420
It wasn't flat.

01:05:35.420 --> 01:05:38.060
And then you have Malcolm from Jurassic Park.

01:05:38.060 --> 01:05:40.380
And the only theory he believed in was chaos theory.

01:05:40.380 --> 01:05:43.780
But he believed that the Earth was spherical as well.

01:05:43.780 --> 01:05:47.140
Let's just use Darth Vader for now.

01:05:47.140 --> 01:05:49.220
So we've got Darth Vader here.

01:05:49.220 --> 01:05:53.340
And he's in California, because that's the best place to be.

01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.960
So he's there, and you know, the sun is spinning.

01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:01.000
Well, as it gets further away, let's just put it over here.

01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.760
Again, as I mentioned, it should still be visible

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.460
from his angle, right?

01:06:05.460 --> 01:06:07.200
Because it's not disappearing over the horizon.

01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:08.920
They specifically say that it doesn't.

01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:10.380
But it should still be visible.

01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:11.480
So let's say this.

01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:13.360
According to the Flat Earth Model,

01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:17.280
they assert that at noon, if you were to stand directly,

01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.480
if the sun was directly over you at noon,

01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:22.720
then it would be approximately 3,000 miles above you.

01:06:23.200 --> 01:06:25.000
So the sun is above Darth Vader.

01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.560
Obviously, this is not to scale.

01:06:26.560 --> 01:06:29.880
Let's put him in Antarctica for now.

01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.000
You know, it's 3,000 miles ahead.

01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.080
Let's say the sun begins to go away from him,

01:06:36.080 --> 01:06:37.840
and it travels about 4,000 miles.

01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:45.000
Well, we need to figure out what percentage of the sun,

01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.080
how much of it would shrink at 4,000 miles.

01:06:48.080 --> 01:06:48.100
you

01:06:48.300 --> 01:06:49.300
OK?

01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:50.860
And therefore, we can demonstrate

01:06:50.860 --> 01:06:53.540
that this flat earth model of a spotlight

01:06:53.540 --> 01:06:55.820
is non-existent based upon this math.

01:06:55.820 --> 01:06:57.260
So how do we figure that out?

01:06:57.260 --> 01:07:02.900
Well, we have to use a theorem whereby we figure out

01:07:02.900 --> 01:07:06.940
what's the distance between his eyesight and the sun.

01:07:06.940 --> 01:07:08.780
So if you go 4,000 miles out.

01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.500
It's not technically 4,000 miles away from him,

01:07:11.500 --> 01:07:13.580
because we've got to take into account the height

01:07:13.580 --> 01:07:15.380
and the diameter of the sun.

01:07:15.380 --> 01:07:18.740
His line of sight is what we need the number of.

01:07:18.740 --> 01:07:23.780
And this is famously referred to as the hypotenuse.

01:07:23.780 --> 01:07:25.780
So how do we figure that out?

01:07:25.780 --> 01:07:27.460
Well, the way we do it is that we

01:07:27.460 --> 01:07:33.460
have to add 3,000 squared to 4,000 squared.

01:07:33.460 --> 01:07:34.740
And we get what?

01:07:34.740 --> 01:07:35.420
What's the number?

01:07:35.420 --> 01:07:36.140
52 million.

01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:39.000
squared.

01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.200
But that's the hypotenuse squared, though.

01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:43.880
Super boring stuff, I know.

01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.720
I'm getting somewhere with this.

01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:47.200
So that's the hypotenuse squared,

01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:48.780
but it's not the actual answer.

01:07:48.780 --> 01:07:51.660
That's not the distance of the line of sight

01:07:51.660 --> 01:07:54.340
between Darth Vader and the sun.

01:07:54.340 --> 01:07:55.560
So how do we figure that out?

01:07:55.560 --> 01:08:00.000
Well, we've got to get the square root of that sun.

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:01.040
52,000 million.

01:08:01.040 --> 01:08:02.080
So what's the square root?

01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:02.800
Does anybody know?

01:08:04.500 --> 01:08:05.940
Who said that?

01:08:05.940 --> 01:08:07.020
Mike, of course.

01:08:07.020 --> 01:08:09.220
5,000.

01:08:09.220 --> 01:08:11.020
5,000.

01:08:11.020 --> 01:08:16.140
So if you have the sun above Darth Vader at 3,000 miles,

01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:18.580
but it travels 4,000 miles, we need

01:08:18.580 --> 01:08:20.380
to measure this part, which is that's

01:08:20.380 --> 01:08:21.380
what the hypotenuse is.

01:08:21.380 --> 01:08:24.540
It's the largest part of the triangle.

01:08:24.540 --> 01:08:27.260
And based upon that equation, someone remind me

01:08:27.260 --> 01:08:28.220
what's that called?

01:08:28.220 --> 01:08:30.140
The Pythagoras?

01:08:30.140 --> 01:08:30.640
What?

01:08:32.100 --> 01:08:35.060
That's that one right there.

01:08:35.060 --> 01:08:38.180
Based on, I'm a pastor, not a teacher here.

01:08:38.180 --> 01:08:42.020
But you could experiment this with anything, though,

01:08:42.020 --> 01:08:43.740
as we're demonstrating here.

01:08:43.740 --> 01:08:45.860
Based upon that equation, it demonstrates

01:08:45.860 --> 01:08:49.140
that the line of sight from Darth Vader to the sun

01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:51.300
is 5,000 miles.

01:08:51.700 --> 01:08:52.980
You say, well, what does that prove?

01:08:52.980 --> 01:08:56.020
Well, it doesn't prove that the sun is shrinking or not.

01:08:56.020 --> 01:08:57.180
This is just the equation.

01:08:57.180 --> 01:08:59.180
This is the formula that we need to use in order

01:08:59.180 --> 01:09:01.580
to find the percentage that it shrinks.

01:09:01.580 --> 01:09:03.420
So in order to demonstrate that, we

01:09:03.420 --> 01:09:06.140
have to divide 3,000 miles, which

01:09:06.140 --> 01:09:10.420
was where it originally was, by 5,000 miles,

01:09:10.420 --> 01:09:12.780
and you get 0.6, which is 60%.

01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:18.080
Meaning that at the line of sight, which is 5,000 miles away,

01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:25.320
you should only be able to see the sun should be 60% as wide as it was at noon.

01:09:25.320 --> 01:09:26.120
What does that mean?

01:09:26.120 --> 01:09:32.400
It means at 5,000 miles of line of sight, it should have shrunk 40%.

01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:34.600
And that's substantial.

01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.440
40% is law.

01:09:37.440 --> 01:09:39.440
Well, how does that prove anything, though?

01:09:40.900 --> 01:09:43.220
What does that really prove?

01:09:43.220 --> 01:09:45.260
Math is useless.

01:09:45.260 --> 01:09:48.380
It's gay and Jewish.

01:09:48.380 --> 01:09:50.300
What does that really prove anyways?

01:09:50.300 --> 01:09:52.220
I'll tell you what it proves.

01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:53.380
This is why it's important.

01:09:53.380 --> 01:09:55.620
40% is what it shrinks.

01:09:55.620 --> 01:09:57.740
Here's the problem, though.

01:09:57.740 --> 01:09:58.700
The sun never shrinks.

01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:05.680
You can test this out yourself.

01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:06.920
Go observe the sun.

01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:09.080
From the time that it rises to the time that it sets,

01:10:09.080 --> 01:10:13.320
it remains virtually the same size all day long.

01:10:13.320 --> 01:10:15.920
It never changes.

01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:20.080
Not 10%, not 20%, not 30%, not even 40%.

01:10:20.080 --> 01:10:21.320
It does not change at all.

01:10:21.320 --> 01:10:24.160
And look, we could just do this experiment right now.

01:10:24.160 --> 01:10:26.240
You could go outside, look at an airplane above you.

01:10:26.240 --> 01:10:26.880
It looks big.

01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:28.800
And the further it gets away, it gets smaller.

01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:32.600
And in order to figure out what percentage it shrank,

01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.000
you would have to take those numbers, the distance it

01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.280
was above you from the distance that it traveled,

01:10:37.280 --> 01:10:40.240
and then get the hypotenuse and all that.

01:10:40.240 --> 01:10:41.960
And you would be able to figure that out.

01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:42.960
Obviously, it's difficult with the airplane

01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:44.040
because it keeps moving.

01:10:44.040 --> 01:10:47.640
And by the way, we're just saying 4,000 miles.

01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:50.040
Horizontally is what we're saying.

01:10:50.040 --> 01:10:52.840
We need the line of sight, and that produces that number.

01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:54.440
But the sun never changes, though.

01:10:55.300 --> 01:10:59.460
Now here's the rebuttal of the Flat Earthers.

01:10:59.460 --> 01:11:01.000
Pastor.

01:11:04.300 --> 01:11:08.580
There's something called atmospheric distortion.

01:11:08.580 --> 01:11:10.980
And that's why it looks like that.

01:11:10.980 --> 01:11:13.460
Atmospheric distortion.

01:11:13.460 --> 01:11:16.500
You know, the Drake.

01:11:16.500 --> 01:11:18.900
Oh, why did I think of that?

01:11:18.900 --> 01:11:20.740
Now look, I believe in atmospheric distortion.

01:11:20.740 --> 01:11:22.000
It's a legitimate thing.

01:11:23.100 --> 01:11:30.380
And it does cause some visually inconsistent things in the sky

01:11:30.380 --> 01:11:30.860
sometimes.

01:11:30.860 --> 01:11:33.420
It's a major phenomenon.

01:11:33.420 --> 01:11:37.740
It can make the sun's light bend.

01:11:37.740 --> 01:11:39.860
It can blur the edges of the sun.

01:11:39.860 --> 01:11:45.180
It can even slightly flatten the sun at the horizon, for sure.

01:11:45.180 --> 01:11:48.500
But one thing that it just can't do

01:11:48.500 --> 01:11:50.460
is decrease the Earth's sun by 40%.

01:11:51.400 --> 01:11:54.160
It cannot account for that 40% shrinkage.

01:11:54.160 --> 01:11:55.440
It's just impossible.

01:11:55.440 --> 01:11:58.160
So I know you like to say atmospheric distortion,

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but you better know what you're talking about though.

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Because it can't do that.

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How do you know?

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I'll tell you how, because we can prove all things

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whole fast, that which is good.

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It can be proven.

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And you know what?

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Saying that you just blindly believe something?

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Sorry.

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That's called stupidity.

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That's called simplicity.

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You say, well, don't we blindly believe the Bible?

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No, because the Bible is the evidence.

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There you go.

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There you have it.

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So this whole atmospheric, and let me just say this,

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atmospheric distortion is the answer for everything.

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If they don't get something, it's

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like atmospheric distortion.

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It's atmospheric distortion.

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Which it is a legitimate thing.

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I'm here standing telling you atmospheric distortion

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is a legitimate thing.

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It's pretty cool.

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But sorry, it does not account for that 40% shrinkage

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of the sun.

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You can see it virtually the same size all the way through,

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demonstrating that the flat earth completely

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fails the test of science.

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Darth Vader does not see the sun.

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Why?

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Because the sun actually, this can only be explained on a sphere

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because the sphere is rotating, and therefore it

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goes below the horizon.

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You know, kind of like the Bible says that it sets.

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It rises, and it sets.

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Go to Ecclesiastes chapter 1.

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See, you're not only learning spiritual things,

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you're learning science and hypotenuse and Pythagorean

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theorems and all that.

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The Bible says in Ecclesiastes chapter 1, verse 5,

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the sun also will riseeth, and the sun goeth down,

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and hasteth to his place where he arose.

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These expressions are observational language

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describing what a person on Earth actually sees.

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And this is something that is repeated over and over again

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about the sun.

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But it's not observable according

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to the flat Earth model.

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perfectly natural on a globe as the earth rotates the sun appears to rise above the horizon and later descend below it and the

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Reason this can only be proven on the globe is because the earth not the earth the Sun

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million miles away

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millions and millions of miles away

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So there is no substantial change

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When we see it because it's so big the changes are so minute. It's just it's just

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Virtually not visible or observable with the naked eye

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That's why we say it virtually looks the same all the way

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through, because the sun is just so far away.

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The biblical wording agrees with the observable phenomenon,

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does it not?

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While the flat earth mechanisms cannot physically

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produce that phenomenon.

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Go to Ecclesiastes chapter 12.

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Now another thing that flat earthers can't really answer

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are the rotation of the stars.

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They can't answer that.

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How so?

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Because in the northern hemisphere,

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the stars rotate counterclockwise.

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But in the southern hemisphere, they rotate clockwise.

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How does that work on a flat earth?

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Atmospheric distortion.

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So I need three volunteers.

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Three volunteers.

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Three or I'll pick you.

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All right, come on, Adrian.

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For the atom.

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I need one more.

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One more.

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All right.

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No, J.C.

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All right, I need you to stand there.

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Adam, you stand right there.

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And you are the constellations.

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You're the stars, OK?

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So I want you to circle your finger, J.C., counterclockwise.

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Isn't that clockwise?

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That's clockwise, isn't it?

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Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right.

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This is clockwise.

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Clockwise, OK?

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So how are you viewing this for the atom, from left to right,

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right to left?

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you

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Right to left, how are you viewing it?

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Left, right.

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Ha, ha, ha, ha.

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So this is a perfect example here

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of how people view the stars in this world.

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Even though it's literally rotating the same way,

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the different perspective demonstrates

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that one person on one hemisphere

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views it rotating one way, and the other person

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sees it the other way.

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Another way to do this, if you're to look at a clock,

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you put it over you, if it's a clear clock,

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you see it rotating one way, you could stop now.

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You guys can sit down.

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You're a good son.

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You're a good star.

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And then if you're to put that same transparent clock under you,

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it's rotating a different way.

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You cannot duplicate that on a flat earth.

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And in fact, they don't have an answer for that.

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They don't know.

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They can't answer that.

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Like, why is that?

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They're just like, what's another fancy word we can use?

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They've got nothing.

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Furthermore, those in the southern hemisphere

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can't see, I forget what it's called,

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the star that aligns with the pole, the north pole,

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the Polaris, Polaris.

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They can't see that star in the southern hemisphere.

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Because after you get over the, after you cross the equator,

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the, that star becomes smaller and smaller to the point you just don't see it anymore.

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They can't see it. Whereas, if on the flat earth model,

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directly above the north pole, you have the Polaris right here.

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Everyone should be able to see it at any given time.

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Because it's directly above the North Pole,

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and all of Earth can observe that.

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Why can't the Southern Hemisphere see it?

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Because once you drop below the equator,

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it begins to go over the Earth's curvature.

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And this is why people in the Southern Hemisphere,

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for example, see different stars and constellations

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than those in the Northern.

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Why?

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Because it's a sphere.

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I know you wanted to hear about Jews this morning and homos and, you know, reprobates

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and whatnot, but I just, we had to talk about this.

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Different constellations are visible at different hemispheres, and as I mentioned, the stars

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rotate in opposite apparent directions.

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What is the conclusion of the matter?

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And again, I'm not standing up here telling you that the Bible explicitly says that the

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to Earth as a globe, because the Bible's not a geometry book.

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The problem is that flat-earthers will get up and say that the Bible explicitly teaches that it's flat.

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And that is a lack of integrity, that is deception, those are lies.

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But what I am saying is that when we compare the language of the Bible to actual observable evidence,

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it demonstrates that the earth is a sphere.

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And that's an honest takeaway.

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You're dealing with an honest pastor.

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I'm not going to say the earth specifically says it's a globe.

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No, the evidence seems to point towards the fact that it is a globe because

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both science and the Bible are compatible. But for sure what it doesn't

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it does not demonstrate that it's flat. It's a flat disc. It's just not there.

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Look at Ecclesiastes chapter 7.

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Verse 23 says, all this have I proved by wisdom.

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I said, I will be wise, but it was far from me.

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Look at verse 25.

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Oh, I'm sorry, are you in Ecclesiastes 12 or seven?

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Go to 12, go to 12, sorry.

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Go to chapter 12.

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Look at Ecclesiastes chapter 12 and verse 9.

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You say, why even preach on this?

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What's even the point of this?

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Just let people believe what they want to believe.

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Look at verse 9.

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And moreover, because the preacher was wise,

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he still taught the people knowledge.

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Yet he gave good heed.

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He sought out and set in order many Proverbs.

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The preacher sought to find out acceptable words.

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And that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

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You know why?

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Because this is important for me to even study out.

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I need to make sure, hey, if the Earth is flat,

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I need to make sure I believe that if it's true.

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If the Earth is a globe, I need to believe that if it's true.

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Why?

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Because I want to seek out knowledge.

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I want to know what the truth actually is.

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And I'm glad, because I learned a bunch of stuff.

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I bought a telescope we're gonna use tonight

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to look at the moon that has shadows, you know what I mean?

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All the craters and stuff.

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And we're looking, Ulysses and I,

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you know, Ulysses is an astronomer now,

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I'm like, where is this guy at?

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And I look out and he...

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We're like looking at the moon, we're looking at the star, we're looking at the heavenly

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bodies because you know what folks, I want to be right.

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And if being right requires for me to initially be wrong, then so be it.

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I have no problem with that.

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You know what, if I want knowledge to continue to be given to me by God, I need to humble

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myself when I am wrong and change when I am.

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The words of the wise are as goads.

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and as nails fastened by the masters of assembly which are given from one shepherd."

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He said, what are you doing? As I'm preaching this, I'm fastening you

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so that you're not, listen to this, tossed to and fro, carried about by every wind of doctrine,

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by the sleight of men and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive. I'm pinning

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you down with scripture, knowledge, science, so that you're not easily persuaded and deceived.

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by the nonsense of this world.

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At the end of the day folks, biblical faith does not oppose investigation.

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Solomon observed, tested, compared, reasoned, and then drew the appropriate conclusions,

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which is exactly what we did.

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And you know what?

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Flat Earth failed miserably.

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F is what it gets.

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Let's pray.

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Father, we thank you so much for your word.

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Thank you for the explicit teachings of the Bible.

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And thank you for just...

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the heavens that declare the glory of God. We're thankful that observable science demonstrates to us

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what the Bible says, Lord. And obviously there's passages of the Bible that are not explicit,

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but Lord you've given us things outside of the Bible, just observable things. We can view the

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creation as you said, and it shows your handiwork. And I pray that you'd help us to recognize that,

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Lord, not be ignorant.

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And Lord if someone's been deceived by this doctrine, I pray that they would humble themselves and change and love the light

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Love the truth

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Not be stubborn

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So that in turn you would continue to give them more knowledge and more wisdom because they love the light

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And I pray that you bless this as we go on our way. We love you. We thank you pray this things in Jesus name. Amen

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Please turn your song to song number 316.

