A
Baptist preacher who praised the attack in Orlando is sparking outrage in Sacramento.
Pastor Roger Jimenez's remarks came on Sunday morning, just hours after the attack.
Verity Baptist Church pastor Roger Jimenez's controversial sermon was uploaded to YouTube,
where he faced backlash over his remarks following the Orlando shooting.
Here in Northern California, controversy continues to brew.
Hundreds prepared to take a stand this morning against what they call the hateful words of
a Sacramento pastor.
When I spoke to pastor Roger Jimenez just a short time ago, he's sticking behind his
words.
In fact, he's telling me tonight, yes, Orlando is safer because of these deaths.
This is a YouTube clip of the sermon that has since been taken down by YouTube.
The original sermon was posted online by the Verity Baptist Church.
YouTube has removed the video as a violation of the site's policy against hate speech.
Deal with a very serious subject, a very important subject, Lord, I pray that you would help
us to have spiritual ears, Lord, I pray you'd help us to be ready to receive your word,
Lord, to not approach the Bible with any preconceived ideas, but Father, that we would be willing
and ready to take the stand that we need to take.
We love you, Lord, in your precious name I pray, amen.
All right, well, we're there in Judges chapter number 19.
And Judges 19, in my opinion, is probably the most graphic chapter in all the Word of
God.
And people who say the Bible is a boring book have never read it.
And there's just a lot of crazy stories in the Bible.
And to be honest with you, I don't even really, I love the Word of God.
I don't necessarily like reading Judges 19.
It's a very interesting chapter.
But this morning, I woke up and often after I spent time in the Word of God and, you know,
spend time in prayer, I will go on the computer on a Sunday morning and kind of review my
sermon notes for the sermon.
And I was checking my email and I see on the news, I saw that there was a 50 dead, a shooting
of 50 dead.
I thought that's insanity, 50 dead, good night.
But I, you know, I didn't have time to look at it.
I just reviewed my sermon notes.
And as I'm driving to church, my wife and I actually drove separate vehicles, which
is not something we normally do.
And I turned on the radio just to catch a little bit of the news on the way to church.
And I hear that there was about this shooting this morning, Sunday, June 12th, there was
a shooting where we're told that an Islamic terrorist, I guess is what you would call
him or what they're calling him, went into a gay bar, which I don't even like to use
those terms, but that's the term they use and shot up and killed 50 sodomites.
And I thought to myself, I had a sermon written for tonight, but I thought, you know what,
I want to take some time tonight and kind of just teach you the biblical response that
we should have as Christians when events like these happen in America and throughout
the world, because these things are going to be used, these events, these news are going
to be used to push an agenda.
And we need to be ready as Christians to be, the Bible says that we should be ready to
give an answer.
And we should be ready to be able to speak up and to say, well, here's what I think and
here's what my thoughts are.
And we need to be able to get back to the Word of God and let the Bible kind of teach
us how it is that we should think about things, and here's what you need to understand.
The Bible says that we need to renew our minds, that we need to be transformed by the renewing
of our minds.
And the problem as Christians living in America today is that we often spend so much time
in the world and so much time influenced by the media of the world that we don't even
know how it is that we're supposed to respond in a biblical way and what it is that we're
supposed to look at in scripture and how we're supposed to think about things.
And I want to try to help you tonight just to kind of say, well, what is the biblical
response?
What is a Christian supposed to do?
What is a, how is a Christian supposed to respond?
I want to give you just several points tonight in regards to that.
Number one, if you'd like to write this down, I'd appreciate it.
As a Christian, we shouldn't be mourning the death of 50 sodomites.
Let me just go ahead and start right there.
As a Christian, we shouldn't be sad or upset or, you know, the Muslims are tripping all
over themselves right now trying to, you know, talk about the fact that this is not part
of our religion and this is not what we believe.
And they're calling for Islam to, you know, for all Muslims in America to be donating
blood to these people that were shot in this event.
And I know that it's not going to be too, I mean, it's probably already happening.
It won't be too far down the road before Christian so-called leaders are tripping all
over themselves to say that we need to unite and that this is a tragedy and this is that.
But let me explain something to you.
The biblical response, and some of you may think like, you know, I've never heard this
before.
And I'll just encourage you, just look at what the Word of God says and look at what
the Bible says before you make any ideas or you make any accusations.
And here's the point that I want you to understand.
As Christians, we shouldn't be sitting there and say like, whoa, that's a tragedy or whoa,
that's a bad thing or we're upset or we're mourning or we're, you know, something needs
to be done about this.
As Christians, we shouldn't be mourning the death of these 50 sodomites and say, well,
why is that?
Here's why that is.
Because the Bible teaches, the Bible teaches that these sodomites are all, every single
one of them, a predator.
Now you may say like, well, that's not what society teaches and I understand that.
But when it comes to the Word of God, we need to understand this.
Everything that's in the Bible is all we need to know about anything.
I mean, the Word of God gives us the knowledge that we need to know to see life.
We don't need to see life through the scope of America or through the scope of CNN or
Fox News.
We just need to go to the Bible and let the Bible explain to us what we are to think and
what we are to believe.
And here's what you need to understand.
The Bible paints the picture of these sodomites, every single one of them, being a predator.
We're there in Judges chapter number 19, look down at verse number 22.
We read the entire story in its context but we won't take the time to go through it again
but look at verse number 22.
The Bible says, now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city.
Notice what he calls them, certain sons of Belial, Belial is the devil.
He says these men of the city, these were sons of Satan, they were certain sons of Belial,
beset the house round about and beat at the door and spake to the master of the house
the old man saying.
Now notice what they said.
They said, bring forth the man that came into thine house that we may know him.
Now I want you to notice that word know at the end of the verse there where it says that
we may know him.
Keep your finger there in Judges 19, go up here real quickly to the book of Genesis,
Genesis chapter 4, should be fairly easy to find, first book in the Bible, Genesis chapter
4.
And I want you to understand this, when they say that they want to know him, it's not like
they were having, you know, a neighborhood gathering.
And they're like, well, we just want to introduce ourselves, you know, make ourselves available
if they need help, you know, moving in or something.
The Bible uses that word know in a little bit different of a context, are you there
in Genesis chapter 4?
Look at verse number 1, notice what the Bible says, and Adam knew, you see that word knew?
And Adam knew Eve, his wife, notice, and she conceived, okay?
So when the Bible talks about knowing someone or they knew, it's just a word that's being
used to refer to a physical act between a man and a woman here where it produced her
being with child.
The Bible says Adam knew Eve, his wife, and she conceived and bear Cain and said, I've
got a man from the Lord.
And I'll just show you that one example, but there's examples throughout the Bible where
that term is used that way.
So if you go back to Genesis 19, when these men come and they're beating at the door,
and they're saying, hey, bring out the man that we may know him, they're talking about
abusing them, they're talking about taking advantage of them, look at verse number 23,
and the man, the master of the house, went out unto them and said unto them, nay my brethren,
now look, he understood what they were doing was going to be wicked, because he says, nay
my brother, nay, I pray you, notice what he says, do not so wickedly, seeing that this
man is coming to mine house, do not this folly, he's saying, don't do this, this is wicked
what you want to do.
Look at verse 24, behold, here is my daughter Amaden.
Now this is crazy, I don't think this is right, I think this guy, but we see Lot do the same
thing in Genesis 19, we'll look at that in a second, and here's what happens, and you
need to understand this, Christians who live, or you say, well good normal people, those
who live in a society where they have perverseness abounding around them, they begin to think
in perverted ways, and they begin to think that things that are just wicked are acceptable,
and here you got this guy trying to be the hero, and notice what he says, behold, here
is my daughter Amaden and his concubine, then will I bring out now and humble ye that, and
that term humble is another term used for that same idea of know them, or having a relationship
with them, and he says, and do with them what seemeth good unto you, but unto this man,
notice what he says, do not so vile a thing, you see that word vile, that's the word that
God uses throughout the Bible, not the only word, but that's one of the words that God
uses to talk about this sin of sodomy, it's called sodomy, named after Sodom and Gomorrah,
we'll look at here in a second, but I want you to understand that this is a vile sin,
it's a disgusting sin, it's a dirty sin, and in fact, you know, I got some statistics here
to share with you, a study done by psychologist Alan P. Bell and sociologist Martin S. Weinberg
found that, and try to just wrap your head around these numbers, they found, they did
a study where they researched and asked a bunch of sodomites, homosexuals, anonymously
so that they could be free to say the truth and not feel like someone's gonna criticize
and whatever, and here's what they found, 75% of homosexuals, this is the terminology
they use, 75% of homosexuals had 100 plus partners, I mean think about that, think about
what it would take to have 100 partners that you have a physical relationship with, and
they found 75, see this idea of like, oh, we just wanna get married, and we're gonna
be faithful to each other, and we're gonna be just like a married couple that gets married,
and then they're just together for the rest of their life, and they're not out doing anything
else, and it's just this pure relationship, that doesn't exist in this community of sodomy.
I mean 75% of them admitted when they were asked, and there was no consequences, they
admitted, they said, oh yeah, 75% of us have had 100 plus partners, now guess what, 60%
said that they'd had 250 plus partners, 43% said they'd had 500 plus partners, 28%, think
about this, that's almost a quarter, one in four sodomites admitted to having a thousand
plus partners, how is that even possible?
And we don't even wanna go into the details of how something like that is possible, but
it's a vile sin, look at verse 25, notice what the Bible says, but the men would not
hearken to him, so the man took his concubine and brought her forth unto them, and they
knew her, remember the term, and abused her all the night until the morning, and when
the day began to spring they let her go, then came the woman in the dawning of the day and
fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was till it was light, and her lord
rose up in the morning and opened the doors of the house and went out to go his way, and
behold the woman, his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house and her hands
were upon her threshold, and he said unto her, up and let us be going, and none answered,
she died, I mean they abused her to the point where she died, and the man took her up upon
an axe, and the man rose up and got him into his place, this is a picture that God paints,
when God says, I want you to understand what happens with these sodomites, he says let
me tell you what happens, in Judges 19 he paints a picture of these men being perverts
and being predators, and taking advantage, and by the way, don't fall into this idea,
our society wants to classify everybody, you know it's LGBT whatever, and it's you
know, oh that guy's gay, and he's bi, well this passage proves they all go both ways,
they're all a bunch of perverts, the classification is this, they're unnatural, and I'll show
you that in scripture, but go to Genesis chapter 19, because you can say well that's just one
story, that's quite a story, but you can say well that's just one story, well what's interesting
about that, there's two stories in the Bible that are basically the same thing, Genesis
chapter 19, there's a more famous of the two, and you say well why does God explain, give
us two different stories, I think he's trying to tell us, this is not a unique, you know,
just happened one time, I think he's trying to explain to us, whenever you get a bunch
of sodomites together and they rule an entire society, this is the kind of stuff that happens,
they are predators, notice Genesis 19, look at verse 4, we won't take the time to read
the whole thing, Genesis 19 and verse 4, the Bible says this, but before they laid
out, remember God sends the angels into Sodom, because he's bringing Lot out to destroy Sodom
and Gomorrah, and the Bible says in verse 4, but before they laid out, the men of the
city, even the men of Sodom, compass the house round both old and young, all the people from
every quarter, and they called unto Lot and said unto him, where are the men which came
into thee this night, bring them out unto us, notice that we may know them, and Lot
went out at the door unto them and shut the door after him and said, I pray you brethren,
do not sow wickedly, see the Bible, the Bible paints this picture of the sodomites being
predators, and by the way, let me say this, every sodomite is a pedophile, every single
one, you know, it's an unnatural sin, it's unnatural to want to be with someone of the
same sex, and it's unnatural to want to take advantage of a child, and today, you know,
go to Romans, Romans chapter 1, you got Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, today, you
know, people say like, well, aren't you sad that 50 sodomites died, here's the problem
with that, it's like the equivalent of asking me, you know, what have you asked me, hey,
are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today, no, I think that's great, I think that
helps society, you know, I think Orlando, Florida is a little safer tonight, now that
50, you know, the tragedy is that more of them didn't die, I mean, the tragedy is, I'm
kind of upset that he didn't finish the job, because these people are predators, they are
abusers, they take advantage of people, and look, as Christians, we need to take the stand
that it is not our job to sit there and say, oh, this is a tragedy, or oh, this is something
we mourn, or look, the Bible paints a picture that these are wicked people, these are evil
people, are you there in Romans chapter 1, look at verse 24, people say, well, have you
given up on the sodomites, don't you want to reach them and bring them into church and
try to convert them, look, here's the problem with that, why would I try to reach someone
that God gave up on, Romans chapter 1, look at verse 24, notice what the Bible says, wherefore
God also gave them up, now look, you got to deal with what the Bible says, the Bible says
that God, because people say today, like, well, I don't know that I agree with that
whole reprobate doctrine, that's fine, you don't have to agree with the reprobate doctrine,
but you've got to figure out, what is God talking about in Romans chapter 1, when he
says God also gave them up, notice, to uncleanness, through the lust of their own hearts, to dishonor
their own bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worship and
serve the creature more than the creator, who is blessed forever, amen, look at verse
For this cause God gave them up unto, don't miss it, vile affections.
Now notice, he says again, he gave them up for even their women to change the, here's
the key words, you got to underline this in your Bible, the natural use, they're not natural,
it's natural to want to steal if you're hungry, it's natural to want to lie if you're in trouble,
look it's not right, it's a wicked sin, but it's natural for a man to be attracted to
a woman, even if that's not his wife, and he commits adultery, I'm not saying that's
a good thing, I think that's a terrible sin, I hope you wouldn't do that, and God even
puts a death penalty on that, that's a wicked sin, but that's not unnatural, it is unnatural
for a man to be attracted to another man, or a woman to be attracted to another woman,
or for an adult to be attracted to a child, or an animal.
He said he gave them up unto vile affections for even their women to change the, verse
26, natural use unto that which is, underline this in your Bible, against nature, you say
what is the category, LGB, no, here's the category, normal, not normal, natural, unnatural,
those are the categories, look at verse 27, and likewise also the man leaving, notice
the natural use of the woman, burned in their lusts, one toward another, man with men, working
in that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error,
they received a recompense for their error, they received a reward for their error, which
was me, which was suitable, right there, if you don't mind writing in your Bible, write
there next to Romans 127, you ought to write this word, AIDS.
The recompense for their error, you know what that was, AIDS.
According to a 2010 study by the Center of Disease Control, this is their wording, homosexuals
and bisexual men, they're the same, represent, now catch this, they represent 2% of the United
States population, think about that, our media makes it sound like there's 50, like they're
50% of the population, I mean Hollywood makes it sound like, I mean it's like half of society,
it's just a bunch of sodomites walking around, according to the CDC, they represent 2% of
the United States population and account for 63% of the estimated new HIV infection in
the United States, think about that.
They represent 2% of society and they account for 63% of people infected with AIDS.
It's a sin that God has recompensed with their, and some of you are like, well I can't believe
that you're saying, I can't believe that there'd be a church, but look at what the word of
God says.
I mean you've got to get back to the Bible and say, how does the word of God want me
to think about these things, what does the word of God want me to say about these things,
look at verse 28, and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, don't
miss it, God gave them over.
No, but we're supposed to reach out to them, why are we reaching out to someone that God
gave up on?
Why are we reaching out to someone that God gave over?
Why are we giving, look, if God Almighty, God says, there's nothing I can do for them,
why would you and I be trying to reach them?
Verse 28, and even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them
over to a reprobate mind.
The word reprobate, just look it up on dictionary.com, as far as I know dictionary.com is not a theological
book or theological website, the word reprobate, according to dictionary.com, is morally depraved
and beyond hope of salvation, that's pretty good.
He said he gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient,
meaning natural, the things that come naturally.
Now notice verse 29, because people often bring this list, because then he gives this
list, he says, being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness,
people of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity, whispers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful
proud boasters, investors of evil things, disobedience of parents, without understanding,
covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful.
People will look at this list and say, well look, you can't say that these sodomites are
so bad.
And they'll say, because you know, look, if someone's fornicating, are they a reprobate?
And the answer to that is no.
Now fornication is a grievous sin, and it should be dealt with, especially within the
church and people should be given a time to repent, and if they don't, they should
be asked to not be part of the church.
But if you're a fornicator, you're not a reprobate, absolutely.
If you're covetous, now if someone has covetousness, even that, the Bible says people should be
removed out of church.
It's a grievous sin.
But if you're covetous, you're not a reprobate.
What if you're full of envy?
What if you murder?
David murdered, Moses murdered.
If you murder someone, are you a reprobate?
If you debate, if you're deceitful, if you are proud, if you're a poster, if you're a
covenant breaker, you know, and they'll say, you know, but here's what you need to understand.
It's not that God has given us a list and saying, the sodomites, these reprobates, they
do these things.
That's not what he's saying.
Notice verse 29, being filled with, here's the key word, you got to underline this in
your Bible or circle in your Bible, all.
Is that word all?
See, he's not saying, oh, you know, some of them are fornicators, some of them are debaters,
some of them are deceitful, some of them are covenant breakers, because here's the thing,
some of us are covenant breakers, some of us are deceitful, some of us are proud.
Here's what he's saying.
Every single one of them has all of these.
I mean, if you met one person that had all of these characteristics, would you just say
like, I want you to spend time with my children?
I mean, if you met one person that had all unrighteousness, that all of them fornicate,
all of them are wicked, all of them are covetous, all of them are malicious, meaning they desire
to harm, to inflict injury, all of them are full of envy, all of them murder.
That's what God says.
All of them debate, all of them deceive, they're all full of malignity, meaning they speak
harmful or evil things.
They're all whisperers, they're all back-biters, by the way, they're all haters of God.
They're all just fightful, they're all proud, they're all boasters, they're all investor
of evil things, they're all disobedient to parents.
It's not that, oh, you know, if you're disobedient to your parents, does that make you a runaway?
If you disobey your parents, no, no, it's the fact that they won, one shot at might,
does all of these.
This is a characteristic of all they do without understanding covenant breakers, without natural
affection.
And look, that's important.
Because look, you know what's natural is to look at a child.
You know what's natural is to look at a little three-year-old girl.
I've got a four-year-old daughter, I've got a two-year-old daughter, and I've got a daughter
on the way.
You know what's natural is to look at a four-year-old girl and to just love her, to just want to
hug her, to just want to protect her.
You know what's not natural?
To look at a little four-year-old daughter and to see her as some sort of a sexual image.
That's disgusting.
He says that they're without natural affection, implacable, meaning they cannot be appeased
they cannot be pacified.
That's why he said you just got to put them to death because look, they will not stop.
They're unmerciful.
It's not that they, well, these characteristics, it's that they're all of these.
They have all of it.
They're all wicked, predators, perverted people.
Look at verse 32, who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things,
commit what things?
We're not saying that if you commit one of these things you should be went to death,
but we are saying when a reprobate commits all of these which commit such things are
worthy of death.
People say, well, that's the Old Testament.
No, the New Testament says that they're worthy of death.
Now look, those of you who say, well, I don't know that I believe that, then what do you
do with Romans chapter 1 verse 32?
You just cut it out of your Bible and say, well, that's the one part of scripture.
Look, you either believe all of it or you don't believe any of it.
We're not here to try to say, well, let me tell you what I like about God's word and
what I don't like about God's word.
I got to take the whole thing, whether I like it or not, and he says that they which
commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them
that do them.
You got to understand, God paints a picture of these people as being filthy predators.
Let's look at more passages.
Go to the book of Jude.
If you can find the book of Revelation, the last book of the Bible, right before the book
of Revelation, you got the book of Jude.
And look, if you say, you say, well, I just don't agree with you, you know, I think sodomites
are fine.
Look, whatever, please don't get around my children, but you know, whatever, you can
believe whatever you want.
But at the end of the day, if you're going to call yourself a Bible-leaving Christian,
you've got to decide what do you do with all these verses we're reading?
Do you believe the word of God or not?
And see, Christians today have decided that they're just going to ignore entire sections
of scripture and just say, well, that's not applicable today.
And look, the word of God, all scripture is given by its grace of God.
It's all profitable.
It's all applicable.
Jude 1, look at verse 7, Jude 1, 7, even as Sodom and Gomorrah, that's what we just talked
about in Genesis 19, even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication.
Notice they were fornicating, just like the list said, going after strange flesh, strange
meaning different than what they should be going after.
We always like to point out, that's why the word queer is a scriptural passage, a scriptural
word, because the word queer means strange.
And here he said that they were going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example.
Look, the Bible says that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah as an example, suffering vengeance
of eternal fire.
Notice verse 8, likewise also these filthy dreamers, because in Jude, he's talking about
other reprobates, and he's saying they're like the ones in Sodom and Gomorrah.
So he says, likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak
evil of dignities.
God calls them filthy.
Here's the one I'm trying to make.
There's no scripture in the Bible that speaks positive about sodomites, not one.
Find it.
Find it and show it to me.
I'd love to see it.
It doesn't exist.
There's not one scripture that paints a nice picture about them.
Go to 2 Peter.
If you're going backwards, you're going to go past Jude, past 3, 2 and 1 John, into the
book of 2 Peter, 2 Peter chapter 2.
2 Peter chapter 2, you have the same, basically it's a parallel passage to Jude, 2 Peter chapter
2.
Notice what he says.
He's using these Sodom and Gomorrah as an example, 2 Peter chapter 2 and verse 6, and
turning the cities, 2 Peter 2, 6, and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes.
Think about that.
God destroyed an entire city, two cities, rained fire upon them.
That's how God felt about it.
He didn't, look, when God was going to destroy Nineveh, he sends Jonah before to try to see
if he can get them saved.
When God wants to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, he sends two angels in to get the one saved
guy out so he can destroy all of them.
He said, well, why didn't God send an evangelist?
Because God gave up on them, that's why.
Because God wasn't interested in getting them saved, that's why.
Because they were already given over to a reprobate mind, that's why.
Look at 2 Peter chapter 2, and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned
them with an overflow, making them an example unto those that after should live ungodly.
Skip down to verse 12, just because I don't have time to go through the whole passage,
but the context says that the people he's talking about are like these people, look
at verse 12.
But these, notice what God says, okay?
This is God's word.
I mean, do we believe that this is the inspired, preserved Word of God?
This is God speaking.
This is what God said.
He said, but these as natural, brute beasts.
You know what God calls them?
Stupid animals.
He says, they're brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed.
They speak evil of things that they understand not, and shall utterly perish in their own
corruption.
Now, here's a question I have for you.
Show me the passage where God says, oh, no, sodomites are fine, we need to bring them
into church and just let us love on them.
Let's just get them saved.
Show it to me.
If you show it to me, I mean, look, I don't have a dog in this fight, okay?
I just go with what the Bible says.
You show me the passage, I'll stand up here next Sunday and say, hey, I was wrong, here's
the passage.
I don't know how I missed it, but here it is.
God says, love the sodomite.
Show it to me.
I can promise you it doesn't exist.
Go to Leviticus chapter number 20, Leviticus chapter number 20, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus.
See, as Christians, we should not be taking a sympathetic approach to these types of news
and saying this was a tragedy.
This is something that we're sad about.
We should be mourning these people.
Because the Bible teaches that they are all predators.
That's all the Bible says about them.
They're wicked, they're vile, they're predators.
And God says that they deserve the death penalty for what they do.
That's what God says.
Now look, and I'll talk about it here in a second.
I'm not saying that we should be doing that, but in God's government where God set up the
laws and God set up the rules and God set up the people in charge, God said when you
find a sodomite, put them to death.
He put the death penalty.
Leviticus 20 verse 13, if a man also lie with mankind as he lies with a woman, both of them
have committed an abomination.
They shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them.
God puts the death penalty on the sin of sodomy.
God puts the death penalty on a lot of things, but this unnaturalness is one of them.
Now I want you to keep your place there in Leviticus because we're going to leave it
and we're going to come back to it.
But make your way to 2 Kings chapter number 23.
2 Kings, you've got Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, if you can find all
the one and two books, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, find 2 Kings chapter number 23.
And let me say this, not only number one, as Christians, should we not be mourning the
death of these 50 vile perverted predators that died today, but number two, let me say
this, as Christians, we shouldn't be advocating the killing of sodomites.
I'm not standing up here tonight and saying, let's go get some guns and let's go get them.
Okay, that's not what I'm saying at all.
And people sometimes will hear, you know, someone like me preach or someone like other
pastor, okay, and say, you guys are advocating violence.
We're not advocating violence.
We're not saying we should go do this, but we're just saying this, if we lived in a righteous
nation with a righteous government, then the government should be taking them.
There's no tragedy.
I wish the government would round them all up, put them up against a firing wall, put
a firing squad in front of them, blow their brains out.
If we lived in a righteous government that loved God and loved children and wanted to
protect them, that's what we do.
I'm not saying we should do it.
I'm not saying we should go, you know, blow up Planned Parenthood.
I'm not saying that at all.
All I'm saying is this, if God had His way, that's what He'd do.
And by the way, in the millennium, that's what will be done.
God's laws will be reestablished.
And you know, and here's the funny thing is, you know, today Americans, I can't believe
you say this, in America, they put sodomites to death.
Did you know that?
The death penalty was on homosexuality in the early days of the United States back in
the 1600s and 1700s.
Did you know that prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy
term of imprisonment and or hard labor?
They considered them insane.
In 1962, Illinois became the first state to legalize it.
That wasn't that long ago.
We've came a long way.
But look, we're not saying, we as Christians, let me make this clear, we should not be advocating
the killing of sodomites or violence to sodomites.
Look, the Bible says, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual
wickedness in high places.
Look, I'm not interested in fighting a physical battle.
We've got to fight the spiritual battle.
Our focus is on preaching the gospel and getting people saved.
We don't need to go fight these people or put these people to death.
Here's what I'm saying.
We shouldn't be advocating what happened today, but we shouldn't be sad about it either.
We shouldn't be saying like, yeah, you know, let's go get some guns and do this.
But we shouldn't be all, you know, just tripping all over ourselves to say, well, this is terrible.
We need to do something.
No, no, we don't need to do anything.
As far as I'm concerned, Orlando's just a little safer tonight.
Number three, as Christians, though our society and culture accepts sodomy, we should not
welcome them into our churches and lives.
Are you there in 2 Kings chapter 23?
There's a couple examples I can give, but I'm just going to give you one.
Some of you need to decide, you know, do I believe the word of God?
What do you do with these verses?
2 Kings 23, here's what's happening in 2 Kings 23.
A righteous king comes in and they're literally having revival.
And verse 7, the Bible says, he break down the houses of the sodomites that were, don't
miss this, by the house of the Lord where the women wove hangings for the grove.
The Bible says that when this king comes in, he breaks down their houses just because they
live by the house of God.
He said, I don't even want you near, you put like a blue dot on them and say, you can't
even be around the house of God, okay?
Let's break, you know, let's break.
And today you've got Christians standing up.
Not only, you know, are they allowed to be around the house of God, let's bring them
into the house of God.
Today you've got Christians saying, you know, sodomites are, walk them in, pedophiles are,
I mean, I know Baptist churches in Sacramento that are harboring pedophiles right now and
just lying to their people and just not, you know, it's like one deacon, one pastor knows
about it and look, churches that are doing that are putting those children in danger.
And at Verity Baptist Church, we don't allow no pedophile, no sodomite, none of them are
walking near, we don't want them around us, we don't want them around our kids.
You say, don't you think this is going to, you know, affect your church growth?
I care more about our children than trying to get a crowd here.
I care more about protecting young people that need protecting.
By the way, that's why we don't separate them from their parents.
That's why we keep them with their mom and dad all the time.
The Bible says that he break down the houses of the sodomites just because they were by
the house of God, just because they were near the house of God.
He said, you can't be here.
I said, number one, as Christians, we shouldn't be mourning the death of these 50 sodomites.
Number two, as Christians, we shouldn't be advocating the killing of sodomites.
Let me just make that clear.
We shouldn't be, we're not going to go to militia and do nothing, all right?
Some of you, you're so excited, let's go soul winning, but we're not going to shed a tear
for it either.
Number three, as Christians, though our society and culture accepts sodomy, we shouldn't welcome
it.
We shouldn't bring it in.
We shouldn't look.
There are people in my personal life that we've had to just cut off and say, we can't
be around you because you're a sodomite, you know, once we find out.
And as Christians, we need to just take that stand and realize we can't have these people
around and just say, well, it's not that big of a deal.
It is a big deal.
It's a grievous sin.
Go to Genesis chapter number 13, Genesis chapter number 13, Genesis chapter number 13.
Let me say this, number four, I said, number one, as Christians, we shouldn't be mourning
the death of these 50 sodomites.
Number two, as Christians, we should be advocating, we should not be advocating the killing.
Someone's going to take that clip and let me fix that.
As Christians, we should not be advocating the killing of sodomites.
Number three, as Christians, though our society and our culture accepts sodomy, we shouldn't
walk them into our churches, we shouldn't accept it.
Number four, as Christians, we should be speaking up against this grave sin of sodomy.
Look, sodomy is not just, here's what they want us to think, they're like, what's just
another sin like every other sin?
You know, like you get mad sometimes and lose your temper, that's the same as a man going
to bed with another man.
It's like, that's insanity, okay?
Are you there in Genesis 13, look at verse 13.
But the men of Sodom, this is what God said, but the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners
before the Lord, look at this word, exceedingly.
This was an exceeding sin.
Some sins are worse than others.
I know today people want to teach all sins are the same.
The Bible doesn't teach that anywhere.
All sins are not the same.
There are some sins that are worse than others.
There are some parts of hell that are going to be worse for some people than others.
And look, you know, I was thinking about this this afternoon when I was going through my
notes, Rahm Emanuel, who's Obama's chief of staff back then, I think he's the mayor of
Chicago now, he had this famous quote that everybody talked about.
He said, you never want a serious crisis to go to waste.
And look, I can promise you they were going to be using this as an opportunity to attack
gun rights.
They're going to be using this as an opportunity to attack freedom of speech.
They're going to be using this as an opportunity to lump in fundamentalist Christians with
these radical Islamist terrorists.
They're not going to let this crisis go to waste.
They're going to push this, they're going to use this to push their agenda.
And you know, I wouldn't, and I'm not saying I think this, but I wouldn't be surprised
if this guy wasn't even a Muslim.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was paid to do this, you know, because here's
the thing, they use these types of things to push an agenda.
And the agenda is always disarming people, the agenda is always taking away our rights,
the agenda is always just making it so that it will be easier to bring in the anti-Christ,
it will be easier to bring in the one-world government, it will be easier to bring in
the one-world religion, because it will be easier to attack Christians who actually believe
the Bible.
And look, it's time for normal people to speak up.
Look, because here's the thing, they represent 2% of society.
You can't tell me at 98%, I know there are some wackos out there that aren't sodomites
and think like, well, it's fine, I get that, but you can't tell me at 98% of Americans
just, the vast majority of normal people know that it's gross.
It's not right.
But here's the problem, they'll use things like this event today to shut normal people
up, so that the average preacher is going to say, well, I can't preach that sermon,
I can't touch that subject, I better just get up and say, let's pray for the victims.
I can't stand up and say sodomites are sin, I mean, good night.
And they use these things to try to shut us up, but you know what we should do as Christians
is just stand up and say, no, you know what, that happened over there, but that doesn't
change anything.
It doesn't change the fact that we need to stand against it, it doesn't change the fact
that we need to preach against it, it doesn't change the fact, and if normal Christians,
and here's the thing, if Baptist preachers or preachers are saying they believe the word
of God, would just stand up and say, no, here's what the Bible says, I mean, that would be
enough to move back the tide that's coming in.
Look, they have, their agenda is on full court press right now.
I mean, they are trying to push this transgender garbage, they're trying to push all of this
stuff, and we just need to get up and say, you know what, I'm sick and tired of it, and
normal people are going to stand up and say, no, we're done with it.
Get your 2% of people and go somewhere else.
Go, you know, get an island somewhere and leave us alone if we're not going to be able
to put you to death.
Because here's the thing, and here's what you need to understand, and can you make your
way back to Leviticus 20?
You say, well, why preach sermons like this?
And here's why, and here's what you need to understand, America is in trouble.
I mean, America is going to be destroyed, obviously we know that because America is
Babylon, but we are in trouble, and the destruction of America may come sooner than we think.
Because here's what's interesting, keep your finger there in Leviticus 20, and go to the
book of Ezekiel.
Let me show you a couple things, we're going to, we'll finish up here soon.
Keep your finger in Leviticus 20, go to Ezekiel chapter number 9, it's the big books, the
big major prophets, you got Isaiah, Jeremiah, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Ezekiel chapter 9,
and look at verse number 9.
I think Ezekiel 9, 9 is one of the most interesting verses in the Bible.
Because the Bible says this, because sometimes people will ask me, like, well what, you know,
why did God destroy an entire, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah?
Or why does God destroy entire nations?
Because obviously a nation is full of sinners, so what are those sins that moves the hand
of God to the point where he's going to destroy them, where he's going to judge the entire
nation?
Ezekiel chapter 9 verse 9 says this, then said he unto me, the iniquity of the house
of Israel in Judah, notice, is exceeding great.
Iniquity is referring to their sin.
He said, they don't just have sin, their sin is exceeding great.
And notice what he says, number 1, okay, the land is full of blood, and, here's number
2, the city is full of perverseness, for they say the Lord hath forsaken the earth, and
the Lord seeth not.
You know what the Bible teaches, that when, what moves the hand of God to finally judge
a nation is these two things.
When a land is full of blood, when there is shedding of blood, when people are dying,
you know, and we're talking about innocent blood here, or either and or a city or a nation
is full of perverseness.
And it's interesting because if you go back to Leviticus chapter 20, in Leviticus chapter
20, and we won't take the time to read the entire chapter, we looked through this recently
on a Wednesday night, but in Leviticus chapter 20, he gives us a list of all the sins that
the nations in Canaan were doing, the nations that he told the nation of Israel to go in
and completely destroy.
And here's what they were doing, and I won't take the time to read the whole thing, but
in verses 1 through 5, we find that they were sacrificing their own children as burnt human
sacrifices.
They were shedding innocent blood.
In verse 13, we read it, they were partaking in sodomy.
In verse 15, they were partaking in bestiality.
In verse 17 and 19, you see incest.
You see other things like adultery and witchcraft, and it's all in this passage.
And in verse 23 of Leviticus 20, he says this, and you shall not walk in the manner
of the nations which I cast out before you, for they committed, notice what he says, all
these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
And here's what he says, these people were killing their children, they were taking part
of perverseness, he said, I abhorred them, and then he told the children of Israel to
go in and kill everybody in those nations, man, woman, and child.
He said, get rid of them.
Sodom and Gomorrah, he said, just get rid of all of them.
And look, the judgment of God comes upon a nation when they cross these two lines.
They shed innocent blood, and the city is full of perverseness.
You know what in the United States of America, we're having 3,000 aborted children killed
every day, we have an innocent blood shedding machine in this country.
And then at the same time, we're pushing the sodomites, we're pushing transgender, we're
pushing all this perverseness, and it's just a matter of time before the hand of God comes
down on this country.
Because God, you know, there's just some things, and here's the problem, you say, well why
does he judge the entire nation?
Because not everybody in the nation is a sodomite, right?
Not everybody in the nation is having an abortion, but here's the thing, when a group of people
puts their stamp of approval on that, and when a group of people says, yeah, I know
that many kids are dying, but what are you going to do about it?
God just kind of just shrugs their shoulder and says, well, I mean, that is what it is.
God says, you know what, this nation has just crossed a line.
Because someone needs to stand up and protect these children.
Someone needs to stand up and speak against this perverseness.
Somebody needs to stand up and say, look, like, this is wrong, and we're not just going
to take it, and you can call us whatever you want, you can call us terrorists, you can
say whatever you want, but if we would stand up, and here's what I'm saying, if we as Christians
would stand up and just say, no, it's not right.
Look, when people bring it up to you, just saying like, hey, look, I think sodomy is
wicked.
I think they're all pervers.
You say, well, people think I'm crazy, but if I'm Christians, we're saying it, we wouldn't
be so crazy anymore, and Christians used to say it, and preachers used to say it, but
we don't take the stand anymore, and you say, well, how do we respond to this?
What do we think about this?
What do we think?
Here's what we think about it.
We don't mourn the death of them.
They deserve what they got.
You reap what you sow, but we don't advocate it either.
We don't wrestle against flesh and blood.
We're not calling people to arms, and if somebody goes out and says, I'm gonna go kill the sodomy,
and I'm gonna do it, because pastor, you managed to preach the sermon, you didn't listen to
the sermon, because that's not what we're saying, but you know what?
As Christians, we need to just stand up and say, I don't care if people accept this, if
people think it's normal, if people think it's right, as Christians, we need to stand
up and say, no, we're standing against it, no, we're not gonna let you shut us up, no,
you can have all your little massacres you want, and we're still gonna say it's wrong,
and we're still gonna stand against it, and we're not gonna let you intimidate us into
shutting up about it, because that's what they want.
They want us to be able to say, well, let's not talk about it, because did you hear what
happened in Florida, and you know what, as Christians, we need to just say, yeah, I heard
about what happened in Florida.
I'm not advocating it, but I'm still against it, and you know what, every less automate
there is in this country, it's better for our country, let's bow our heads and have
a word of prayer.
Heavenly Father.
I just wanted to say that we had a record breaking attendance here this morning, normally
we have around 200 people in church on a Sunday morning, today we have 281, and I just want
to thank the media for all the free publicity.