Amen. All right, we're there in Galatians chapter number two. I'd like you to keep
your place there in Galatians two if you would and go back with me to the book of
Acts. Acts, if you go, if you keep your place there in Galatians we're gonna come
back to Galatians and go back to the book of Acts. If you go backwards you're
gonna go past 2nd Corinthians, 1st Corinthians, Romans into the book of Acts.
So you have Galatians, 2nd Corinthians, 1st Corinthians, Romans into the book of
Acts. Acts, I'd like you to find Acts chapter number 15 if you would and
tonight I'm preaching a very different type of sermon. A sermon that I don't
regularly preach, not something that I normally preach and if it's your first
time here at Verity Baptist Church or maybe you're new to the church, you know,
I really want to communicate this idea that the type of sermon I'm preaching
tonight is extremely rare. In fact, our church has been around now for over 10
years and I can only think of a few times that I preached this type of
sermon usually and when I say usually I would say the vast majority of time at
Verity Baptist Church the sermons are meant to be for our church family and of
course the sermon is meant for our church family but they're meant to be
very practical, applicable, helpful sermons but from time to time you have
to deal with some issues and that's what I'm doing tonight and like I said it's a
very rare sermon and if you are visiting with us or you're not having
been with us too many times I would encourage you to come back another week
and give us another chance at another time but tonight I'm having to deal with
a very specific issue and of course our church is an independent church. What
that means is that we are autonomous. We are a self-governing church. We're not
part of any sort of denomination or any sort of union of churches where we've
got a headquarters somewhere somebody's telling us what to do or anything like
that however with that said our church does fellowship with other churches of
like faith and practice and that's a very scriptural thing as you read the
New Testament you'll find that the churches in the New Testament would
fellowship with each other they would work together they would take special
offerings for each other and things like that and our church does fellowship with
other churches of like faith and practice and the group that we
fellowship with and again I want to be careful that you don't get the idea that
we're part of a denomination or anything like that all we are is a group of
churches churches that pastors that like each other and that feel like we believe
similar things and our group is collectively known as the new IFB
movement that's something that it's been called and sometimes people don't like
those terms either and that's fine I understand that but it's just a group
of churches that work together fellowship together we do missions
together we do things like that soul winning events and things like that this
week one of the pastors in the new IFB movement someone that I would consider a
very close and personal friend pastor Aaron Thompson who is a man that I
actually ordained our church over the last 10 years has started five different
churches and the first church we started was Sure Foundation other other
than our church of course we started our church here in Sacramento from the
ground up but the first church we started after that was Sure Foundation
Baptist Church in Vancouver Washington and I worked side by side with brother
Aaron Thompson at the time and later ordained him and he's been pastoring and
doing a great job up there and this week pastor Thompson preached a couple of
sermons dealing with some issues dealing with some attacks dealing with
some problems that he's been dealing with and he named two pastors that by
name he called out their name different pastors that would that people would
consider part of this fellowship of churches or whatever one of them was
pastor Tommy McMurtry and the other one was pastor Grayson Fritz and he preached
these sermons and he made a statement and he made his points and he did what
he needed to do as you can imagine after these sermons were preaches there's just
been a flurry of activity on social media and within all the different
groups where these churches fellowship and comments and responses and
statements have been taking place on social media throughout the new IFB and
I decided tonight that I wanted to preach on this subject and try to help
first of all help our church understand a few things because my wife and I've
been getting a lot of questions from a lot of you and we understand that and
there's no problem with that but people have questions you know and they want to
know what's going on and and is this right is there anything wrong with this
you know and I want to deal with that tonight I want to try to help you
understand and I also want to just not only about this subject but about
subjects like this because things like this are gonna happen from time to time
I want to give you kind of a biblical mindset in regards to how to deal with
these issues like I said it's extremely rare that I preach an entire sermon on
something like this it's rare that I even bring it up in a sermon but from
time to time I do do that and that's tonight is one of those times with that
said let me say this even though I'm kind of dealing with a little bit of
drama if you want to call it that I'm still going to turn to a lot of a lot of
verses tonight and I'm going to teach you a lot of practical applicable things
that you can learn for your personal life and even when I preach these types
of you know non sermon sermons they still have more Bible in them than the
average Bible college student learns in a semester so you're gonna be fine if
you don't you say I don't know what's going on or anything about the drama
you're getting enough preaching for your personal life do you don't worry about
that but you know I do feel like it's appropriate for me to kind of weigh in
on this issue for a couple of reasons first of all our church has been brought
up in this issue my name has been brought up personally in this issue some
of our church members have been brought up with this issue and then of course
pastor Thompson is a close friend of mine and we ordained him and sent him
into the ministry so I feel like it would be appropriate for me to talk
about these things let me just go ahead and set the context for those of you I
love pastor Thompson and I wholeheartedly agree with him and stand
with him I I stand with pastor Thompson he's my friend and I think friends
should be loyal and help each other out and I want to I want to try to help him
I want to try to help you and anyone else who wants to listen to understand
now let me just say this this will be my last kind of statement by way of
introduction whenever something like this happens you know what we call drama
it always seems like you always have these you know bleeding hearts you
always have these overly soft ultra spiritual really you know just you know
loving type of people or at least they want to act like they're loving type of
people you always find this crowd that's lamenting the fact that pastors are
fighting with each other or that fact that they're fighting publicly or the
fact that you know pastor Thompson would name these guys by names you always have
these this group that comes out and they're just like this is wrong this is
not spiritual this is not correct and what I want to begin with tonight and
explain to you and I've got three different points I want to make in kind
of three different statements but if you're there in Acts chapter 15 I'd like
to show you something Acts chapter 15 and I'm going to show this to you from
different passages in the Bible Acts chapter 15 in verse 36 the Bible says
this and some days after Paul now if you remember Paul and Barnabas were
missionaries and they've already gone on their first missionary journey they came
back from their first missionary journey and in between their first and second
missionary journey they went to the Red Hot preaching conference there in Antioch
and and excuse me in Jerusalem and they've had this council and they've
been dealing with these issues and then they are coming back and he's getting
ready now to go on his second missionary journey that's what we see here in verse
36 the Bible says this and some days after Paul said unto Barnabas these are
two guys that have been working together and I would say this both of these guys
are good guys both of these are our spiritual leaders both of these are
evangelists they're working in in the in the ministry the Bible says and some
days after Paul after Paul said unto Barnabas let us go again and visit our
brethren in every city where we have preached the word of the Lord and see
how they do and Barnabas determined to take with them John whose surname was
Mark if you remember John Mark was with them in the first missionary journey and
he quit halfway he went back home and he quit on them now Paul and Barnabas are
getting ready to go on their second missionary journey and Barnabas
determined to take with them John whose surname was Mark notice verse 38 but
thought not good to take him with them who departed from them from Pamphylia
and went not with them to the word I want you to notice verse 39 and the
contention was that was that word mean the fighting the conflict the argument
notice and the contention was so sharp between them that they departed asunder
one from the other and so Barnabas took Mark and sailed unto
Cyprus and Paul chose Silas and departed being recommended by the
brethren unto the grace of God and when and he went through Syria and Cilicia
confirming the churches now let me explain something to you I don't believe
that anything is in the Bible nothing in the Bible is incidental accidental or
coincidental nothing in the Bible is just put in there because God was trying
to fill some space and he just didn't know what to do and you know whenever I
read this passage in Acts chapter 15 I always think this thought sometimes
Christians fight in fact Christians have been bickering at each other and
fighting with each other since the first century and sometimes you you know you
get these pastors and they start the the contention was so sharp between them you
would say they start fighting and argue each other and you get these ultra
spiritual crowd saying this should not be done this is not what Christianity
is like this is not what the Bible is like well I'm not sure what Bible you've
been reading but when I read the Bible you know what I see sometimes Christians
fight get over it I mean here you have Paul and Barnabas these are good guys
and they're just mad at each other fighting with each other and the soft
ultra spiritual crowd will say that no this isn't right this is not how it
should be this is not how the Bible tells us to be but God highlights the
fact and obviously you know if we can solve problems and solve issues without
fighting that's something that should be done but you know that God put this in
the Bible to show us something sometimes Christian leaders fight you're there
you're there not to go back to the book of Galatians you say oh well that's just
one you know example and and that was Paul and Barnabas and Barnabas not even
that famous you know I mean he's an apostle the Bible tells us but Barnabas
not even that well known you know this must have just been an isolated
incident okay well let's go to Galatians chapter 2 look at verse 11 Galatians
chapter 2 verse number 11 the Bible says this but when Peter was come to Antioch
I now this is Paul speaking the Apostle Paul who's writing by the way under the
inspiration of the Holy Ghost the book of Galatians but when Peter was come to
Antioch knows what Paul says he says I would stood him to the face because he
was to be blamed for before that certain came from James he this is Paul speaking
about Peter he did eat with the Gentiles but when they were come he withdrew and
separate himself fearing them which were of the circumcision and the other Jews
dissembled likewise with him in so much that Barnabas also was carried away
with their dissimulation but when I this is Paul speaking saw that they walk not
uprightly according to the truth of the gospel I this is Paul speaking said unto
Peter notice these words before them all if thou being a Jew liveth after the
manner of the Gentiles and not as do the Jews why compelest out the Gentiles to
live as the Jews you know what this was you know what we're reading about in
Galatians chapter 2 a public dispute between two spiritual leaders in fact
between two giants of the faith I mean Peters pretty up there Peters a pretty
famous well-known used man of God in the Bible so is Paul and you know I'm tired
of this ultra spiritual crowd saying oh well you guys are fighting that's not
spiritual well you know then Paul must have not been spiritual and I and I would
remind you that the Apostle Paul was probably the greatest Christian who
ever lived other than the Lord Jesus Christ the greatest man of God used in
in the New Testament to bring the gospel to the Gentiles the man that God used
the Bible says holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost used
to pen most of the New Testament and where you have Paul and you know what
he's doing he's fighting with Barnabas you know what he's doing he's fighting
with Peter you said what can we take away from that here's what we can take
away from it sometimes Christians fight get over it sometimes people get upset
with each other sometimes people fight each other and you know oftentimes you
have these people and that you here's what they'll say we shouldn't be
fighting with each other you know we're we're we're becoming a mockery to the
unsaved people aren't gonna get saved because these pastors are fighting with
each other you know whenever somebody says that here's what I think myself you
must not be a soul winner because you know our church does a lot of soul
winning I've been so winning for like 20 years now week after week month after
month year after year many of our church people are out there so many has anybody
can anybody attest to the fact have you ever had this experience where you
knocked on the door of an unsafe person hi we're coming from Verity Baptist
Church wanted to give you and your family invitation to church you go to
church anywhere oh great you know we'd love for you to come by and visit let me
ask this question you don't forget that today are you on your way to heaven no
you don't do you mind if I show you sure and you go through the whole gospel
explain all the gospel presentation answer all their questions get to the
end and you say hey would you like to call upon Christ for salvation have you
ever had somebody say well I would but did you hear what Pastor Thompson said
about Pastor McMurtry I mean I it just it makes the Christian light you know
what nobody's paying attention to what pastors are saying about each other you
know that no unsafe person is just paying attention and saying oh this
gives a black eye to the cause of Christ you know the only people paying
attention to that are the people that care the people that are involved the
people in those churches this sermon is probably gonna get you know tons of
views and you know what it is it's gonna be people within our group of churches
who just want to hear you know what's going on so this idea says oh a pastors
are fighting against each other and calling each other out by name you know
this brings a shame to the cause of Christ unsafe people are not gonna get
say you must not be a soul winner because you don't understand I'm saying
people aren't paying attention to what you're posting on Facebook and and then
there's the other argument he'll make they'll say oh well you know we should
call out the false prophets but not the good guys but wait a minute wasn't
Peter a good guy wait a minute wasn't Barnabas a good guy look here's all I'm
telling you is that from the very beginning from the inception of the New
Testament Church Christians have been bickering at each other fighting with
each other calling each other out it's it's it's Christianity you know God
called us to live in these community of believers and sometimes you're gonna
have friction sometimes you're gonna have problems and all I would say to
this ultra spiritual crowd is Christians have been fighting since the first
century get over it and if you say well this isn't biblical you must not be
reading the Bible because I'm watching these Christians fight all the time in
the Bible somebody showed me a quote just this this morning somebody saying
Christians are not monkeys monkeys monkeys fling poo at at each other don't
be like monkeys I'm thinking myself like you know I pick a hypocritical that
statement is you're flinging poo in your comment about flinging poo I mean
you're you're making a comment about what someone's doing and you're saying
they shouldn't be doing this while you're doing it you know what the Bible
says to take the beam out of your own eye and it's easy to act ultra spiritual
ultra you know I'm so holy and right with God you know what the fact that
it's like when people say don't you know you you guys are so judgmental and it's
like you're judging me for being judgmental you hypocrite Christians have
been bickering since the beginning get over it
Christians have been fighting and you know what I would say this sometimes and
I'm not saying all the time and I'm not even saying most of the time but
sometimes these public fights need to happen go to 3rd John 3rd John chapter
1 if you start at the end of the New Testament you have Revelation Jude and
then 3rd John 3rd John chapter 1 because you'll say that people say this
oh okay well Peter fought with Barnabas excuse me Paul fought with Barnabas Paul
fought with Peter you know God just documents that but that doesn't need to
happen that shouldn't happen and look I would say this most of the time it
doesn't need to happen most of the time it doesn't have to happen but sometimes
public fights need to happen 3rd John chapter 1 look at verse 9 here we have
the Apostle John John the beloved John who laid his head on the breast of Jesus
John who was loved above all by Jesus John who wrote the book of John who
wrote the books of 1st 2nd and 3rd John who wrote the book of Revelation I mean
this is a pretty godly man notice what Paul what John says he says I wrote
unto the church but Diotrephes notice he named somebody by name but Diotrephes
and by the way read 1st John read 2nd John read 3rd John you know that John
never tells us Diotrephes is a false prophet you know John never tells us
Diotrephes is a reprobate you know John doesn't he here's all he says he says I
wrote unto the church but Diotrephes who's a member of that church who loved
it to have the preeminence among them receiveth us not I mean John just called
this church this guy out by name because he's doing stuff and messing with the
church he didn't say it was a reprobate he didn't say it was a false prophet he
just calls him out by name look at verse 10 wherefore if I come this is John John
the beloved if I come notice what he says I will remember his deeds which he
doeth prating the word prating means to talk foolishly and at length he says
prating against us with malicious words here we have this guy Diotrephes we're
never told he's a false prophet we're never told he's a bad guy but we're told
he's a guy in the church and you know what he's doing against us John says
he's prating against us with malicious words and not content therewith neither
does he himself receive the brethren and forbid it them that would and cast it
them out of the church notice that John calls this guy out what does he call the
guy out for prating against us with malicious words and what is the
motivation he says and not content therewith he says this guy is not
content this guy is envious and as a result of his envy he's prating against
us with malicious words and John called him out by name he said his name is
Diotrephes he didn't tell us he's a false prophet he didn't tell us he's a
reprobate he says he's just a leader in that church and I'm calling him out
sometimes these things need to happen sometimes the Diotrephes need to be
called out by name and by the way John called this out this guy out John
publicly blasted Diotrephes again who were not told he's a false prophet we're
not told he's a reprobate and he just blasted him somewhere worse than YouTube
and Facebook combined he blasted him in the Holy Word of God I hear like oh you
shouldn't you know you shouldn't call out a pastor on YouTube you shouldn't
call out a pastor on Facebook John called him out in in the eternal word of
God the Bible says forever oh Lord thy word is settled in heaven for all of
eternity Diotrephes will have been called on the carpet by the Apostle John
for prating against us with malicious words and not being content therewith
so what can we take away from this here's what you can take away from it
sometimes Christians fight sometimes pastors bicker at each other they've
been doing it since the first century and you know what if I don't think I
don't think you or I are better Christians than the Apostle Paul the
Apostle Peter and the Apostle John in fact other than the Lord Jesus Christ I
don't know that you could name three more godly men in the New Testament than
Paul Peter and John and you know what see we see them engage in bickering and
fighting calling each other out by name doing it publicly before them all Paul
said so the first thing I want you to understand is that Christians look
before you take this holier than that I can't believe Pastor Thompson well then
you can't believe the Apostle Paul either and you can't believe the Apostle
John either and you can't believe you you must not be reading the Bible
because Christians have been bickering since the first century and look in the
Bible if you read the New Testament you'll find these guys calling each
other out you'll find them calling out false prophets by name this is this is
what the Bible says is what this is what Christianity is like this is what New
Testament Christianity is like go to 2nd Samuel in the Old Testament if you would
2nd Samuel chapter 15 in the Old Testament you have these one and two
books all clustered together 1st 2nd Samuel 1st 2nd Kings 1st 2nd
Chronicles find 2nd Samuel chapter 15 so first of all Christians have been
bickering since the first century just know it get it get over it don't sit
there and act like this has shaken my faith this has given me spiritual PTSD
well Paul would have probably gave you spiritual PTSD Paul's not something you
want to mess with this has been happening since the beginning but you
know here's what happens whenever this happens this is what you find these
people come out we shouldn't be flinging poo at each other what nobody should be
that's like a lesson for like a three-year-old how many years of Bible
college would have to go to learn that one we shouldn't be bickering with each
other this is not Christian mature well I can't find a more mature Christian
than the Apostle Paul Peter and John and they did it and if they did it and they
thought it was needed sometimes and you know what sometimes we may need to do it
too but let me just give you another thought the other thought is that you
have this group of people that are they lack discernment and they'll look at
what happened right because you'll go and listen to Pastor Thompson sermon
don't listen to it now okay just do when you get home they'll go and listen to
Pastor Thompson sermon and they'll give his read you know he gives all these
reasons why he's calling them out on the carpet and he's confronting them to
their face and he's you know naming them and saying all these things and then
people will say well I don't I don't see it I don't agree with it I don't think
you came to the wrong conclusion that's not what they meant that's not they
weren't really attacking you but you know here's what you need to understand
whenever people attack you the vast majority of time that people attack you
in ministry it's always a subtle passive-aggressive attack you know it's
very rare it happens from time to time but it's very rare that people just
attack you up front to your face usually is these subtle passive aggressive
attacks and people that lack discernment will say I don't see it but
they don't see it because they lack discernment second Samuel chapter 15 let
me give you an example of this in the Bible in second Samuel chapter 15 in
verse 1 you have the story of Absalom remember when Absalom wanted to take
over the kingdom of David the Bible says in verse 1 and it came to pass after
this that Absalom prepared him chariots and horses and 50 men to run before him
and Absalom rose up early and stood before the way of the gate and it was so
that when any man that had a controversy came to the king for judgment now notice
people are coming to the king for judgment then Absalom called unto him
and said of what city art thou and he said thy servant is of one of the tribes
of Israel and Absalom said unto him see thy matters are good and right now
here's what's interesting the Bible tells us that when any man any man
showed up Absalom would look at them and say thy matters are good and right you
know if you're looking at a close friend or someone that you know personally and
you say hey you're here to see the king I know you personally you're here for
judgment there's a problem and you need the the the king to judge you I know you
personally I've known you for 20 years I know that your matters are good and
right you know that's a legitimate statement to make if you know someone if
you know their situation but when people are coming to the king for judgment and
every single man any man the Bible says every single man you're telling them
thy matters are right thy matters are good and right you know what that is
that is flattery that's hypocrisy how could every man be right I mean they're
coming to the king so the king can say that's right that's wrong you're guilty
you're not guilty but any man they showed up Absalom's just like thy
matters are good and right he's he's just using flattery let me tell you
something somebody who stands with everybody stands with nobody somebody
said oh I just I'm friends with everybody you're friends with nobody
you can't be loyal to everybody you know I just I'm you know I stand with every
you when you look at everybody thy matters are good and right you know you
go and start your your own church by splitting another church thy matters are
good and right you're just going off the deep end on crazy doctrines thy matters
are good and right you know you know what you are you're a weasel
Absalom here he's just trying to flatter these people look at verse 3 again and
Absalom said unto him see thy matters are good and right but there is notice a
subtle attack there is no man deputed of the king to hear thee and notice
notice what he says in verse 4 Absalom said moreover oh that I were made judge
in the land that every man which has any suit or cause might cut him unto me and
I would do him justice and it was so that when any man came night to him to
do him obeisance he put forth his hand and took him and kissed him I mean he's
really laying it on thick now look what was Absalom trying to do I mean if you
read the Bible you know the story he's trying to kill David he's literally
trying to kill David and steal his kingdom but you know that's not what he
says to the people when the people show up he doesn't shake their hand kiss them
and says I want to kill David I want to lead a rebellion against David and I'm
gonna use you you idiot with who lacks discernment to help me that's not what
he says to him you know what he says to him your matters are good and right but
the key he's like he says no man is deputed of the key a very subtle attack
the king kind of dropped the ball and all that I were made a judge in the land
and I would do him justice look at verse 6 and on this manner did Absalom to all
Israel that came to the king for judgment so Absalom notice the words
stole the hearts of the men of Israel see here's what you need to understand
when people attack what was Absalom doing he was attacking David subtly
passively this is what we call being passive aggressive the word subtle means
making use of clever or indirect methods to achieve something in a way that is
difficult to analyze or describe people with discernment might have seen what
Absalom was doing and they might have said statements like this I think
Absalom is up to no good I think Absalom's trying to hurt the king I can't
really put my finger on it but I just it looks like it just seems like because
when things are subtle they're done in a way that is difficult to analyze or
describe and by the way they're done in a way where you could easily back off if
you're called on it if somebody would have walked up to
Absalom and said are you trying to take over the kingdom here's that no take
over the kingdom no I'm just trying to help the people you you misunderstood
see the point of subtle passive-aggressive attacks is that
they're meant to be subtle and if you lack discernment you won't see them look
at verse 6 and on this manner did Absalom to all Israel that came to the
king for judgment so Absalom stole the hearts of the men of Israel the worst
title is described as making use of clever and indirect methods to achieve
something in a way that is difficult to analyze or describe passive-aggressive
means this of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by
indirect resistance to the demand of others and an avoidance of direct
confrontation see oftentimes when people attack you they don't just do it
directly to your face just call you out by name that's what we do we got
integrity we've got character you know what they do they just do it subtly
they just do it in a way that's difficult to be to be seen and look I
will tell you this over the last ten years of ministry my wife and I have
dealt with this a lot we dealt with this from the outside we've dealt with this
from the inside we've had church members in this church that were just subtly
attacking my wife and my kids strong attacks against our family but they were
done in such a way that if we called them on it it'd be easy for me oh no no
that's a misunderstanding and they were done in a way where other people wouldn't
see it if they'd be blind to it just like Absalom and you know pastor Thompson
called these pastors out because they've been subtly passively aggressively
attacking him and his family and his ministry and then people who lack
discernment they're like you're wrong you jump to the wrong conclusion they
didn't say that they didn't do that well let me help you with a little
understanding because I've been doing this for ten years now and when people
are attacking you subtly when they're attacking you using you know being
passive-aggressive towards you a lot of times at first you're just kind of like
am I misreading that it looks like and it feels like but I don't know she's a
well pastor how do you deal with it well I'll tell you how we deal with it and
it's been extremely effective in our church what we've done is we my wife and
I we just begin to document all of the issues because when somebody's attacking
you subtly at first you might feel like I don't know am I reading that wrong but
when you begin to document it because I have a bad memory so I have to write
things down or else I don't remember them you begin to document them over and
over and over again eventually you get enough of a pattern that it paints a
real clear picture this guy's not a good guy this guy's not a good gal these
people are trying to attack us so people get mad they're like pastor Thompson
should have called out pastor Fritz pastor Thompson should have called out
pastor McMurtry or you guys should have called out pastor Boyle or you guys
should have called out you know Adam Fannin or whatever all these people you
guys should have called out pastor major but you know let me just help you
because when we move on these issues we're not just moving because we just we
just read a post somewhere we got angry about it we've been looking at these
things and documenting these things for a long time in fact let me help you guys
some of the people out there who lack discernment and let me just give you my
documentation of the last year and a half of the subtle attacks that have
been happening in the new IP and you tell me how are we supposed to take this
say well what have they done okay and look I'm gonna give you five clear
points of what these guys have done against our church and against other our
friends and I'm telling you right now any one of these guys if they have a
backbone can stand up and call me out I'm gonna number them for you one two
three four five they can stand up and say number two is a lie that never
happened number four is a lie that never happened if they can say that with
integrity then I'm telling them they should but they can't because what I'm
telling you is the truth so what have they done how about severely attacking
us concerning kovat how about the fact that they were attacking pastors who
were doing live stream only services now if you ask them if you ask Absalom they
wouldn't they would say well we're no we're not attacking you know them
specifically we're just attacking all pastors in general you know and and
they say anyone who's doing live stream only services during coronavirus they
would say they're rolling over to the government they would call them cowards
they would say they're FEMA pastors you know here's the thing here we are right
February of 2020 and we're kind of like I don't know what this coronavirus thing
is I it could have been the black plague for all I know we sat there and
counted about nine different people in our church that were would have been
considered high risk we didn't know if it was true we didn't know if it was a
big deal we didn't know what it was gonna be like and we said hey we're just
gonna temporarily do live stream only services you know just so we can kind of
figure this thing out and then all of a sudden all these just vicious attacks
and we're looking at them we're saying like friend are you talking about us
like no no not you everyone else not you but just just attack you know yeah
these guys are FEMA pastors these guys are this these guys are that and the
funny thing is that at Verity Baptist Church and all the friends that I know
anyone that went live stream only you know we still had people in the room
with us every service and the funny thing is that we probably still had more
people in the room with us when we were doing live stream only services than
they had when they didn't shut down but you know they're attacking us for going
live stream only while we their supposed pastor friends were temporarily doing
live stream only services and we're like that's a little odd all right are you
talking about us no no I was talking about another church in California okay
you gotta just jot that down and think that's odd maybe they're having a bad
day how about this lavishly promoting people who turn on us I mean these guys
have gone out of their way they're falling all over themselves to promote
and protect and befriend any guy who just turns on I'm not talking about one
guy I'm talking about multiple people when they turn on us they just go they
just like falling all over themselves to connect with them to have them come
preach for them to go preach for them to do videos with them you say I don't know
I think it's kind of a quick coincidence okay well how many do you have to do
before it becomes a pattern Joe major makes a video saying I don't like Pastor
Anderson I'm separating from Pastor Anderson I'm separating from the new
IFB and they're just falling all over themselves to go preach for him to have
him come preach for them to just be their friends and you kind of take note
of that you're like that's a lot now first we had this coronavirus thing now
we have this Joe major thing how about Patrick Boyle who held an entire
conference against the new IFB's King James only position who held an entire
conference against Pastor Anderson who had Adam Fannin come to his church and
publicly pray and when Patrick Boyle turns on us they're just falling all
over them so I mean they're scheduled to go do a revival conference for him soon
sometime soon here how about Josh Gander who's a dipstick up in Canada not even
worth mentioning his name it's just this idiot has just been at the severely
attacking all of us and they they're just falling all over themselves to
protect him to promote him how about Paul Wittenberger I mean Paul
Wittenberger as far as I know hasn't attacked us but he definitely separated
himself from us and that's fine people want to separate themselves from us
that's not a problem but they just go out of their way to connect themselves
with him to do live streams with them how about Matt Powell same thing as far
as I know he hasn't attacked us but he's definitely separated himself from us and
they're just falling all over themselves to connect with him to befriend him to
have him do live streams together look how how much discernment do you have to
have before you start making the connecting huh it seems like everybody
that turns on us they just befriend them and become their close friend and want
to do all these conferences together how much discernment you have to have before
you start connecting the dots and thinking I don't think these people like
us I think these people are subtly attacking us looks like everybody that
turns on us they're just like that's my best friend and then you know you preach
like this and this is the comment that comes back to you well don't they have
the right to be friends with whoever they want now listen to me let me answer
your stupid question yes but before you ask before you you say well then they
can do whatever they want okay but if the answer is yes for them isn't the
answer yes for us well don't they have the right to be friends with whoever
they want okay yeah they do so don't we have the right to choose to not be
friends with them based off the fact that they want to be friends with our
enemies no no no you just have to keep being their friend they have the right
they have the right but not you that's stupid yeah well there they don't have
to be friends with anybody well you know what I don't have to be friends with
them either they ain't gonna preach forever they want and not preach
wherever they want well you know what I don't have to be their friend and like
them and promote them either you say these subtle attacks attacking us
regarding coronavirus lavishly promoting and turning you're just loving everyone
who turns on us these people have no loyalty I'm only on point two I got five
of these I'm trying to help some of you you don't have any discernment you just
think you guys are just you know a little uptight you're always mad about
everything let me teach you a lesson on discernment how about attacking the kids
of the new IFB I mean going out of your way to make statements there's a
situation not too long ago or some of the kids and the new IFB got in trouble
you know what kids are gonna get in trouble teenagers gonna be stupid their
minds are not fully developed you know that that's scientifically proven
sometimes kids are gonna do stupid things and you know what all the parents
all the authorities were told the kids got punished they repented or whatever
you know that's that's their business kids are gonna do stupid things but you
know after that happens these guys they've just been going out of their way
to just any chance they have to just make these statements we're just trying
to raise pure kids we're just trying to raise godly kids as if all of us aren't
trying to raise pure kids and godly kids and they make these statements how how
the new IFB kids are so bad in comparison to the old IFB I mean Grayson
Fritz made made the statement about the old IFB I'm gonna quote him this is what
he said he said the old IFB they raised better families in the new IFB I'll take
an old IFB family any day of the week and put them against 99% of the new IFB
clowns any day of the week he's saying 99% of our kids are just trash in
comparison to the old IFB let me tell you something I grew up in the old IFB
you know that a mom that homeschools and and is a homemaker is a rarity in the
old IFB you know that the old IFB virtually every woman works a job wears
pants goes to work but these are the kids you know they raise better kids
look I grew up old IFB I grew I went to I cried from a Christian school with all
these kids that were raised in church and the only my wife and I were talking
about the only kids that I knew growing up that I can say right now are serving
the Lord were all related to the pastor all the rest of them have gone to the
devil but the old IFB kids are better than the new IFB kids well I don't know
what kids you're looking at maybe all the kids in your church suck but you
have to take a look at the kids from Verity Baptist Church I'm so proud and
so impressed with some of the young people in our church we've got some of
the great I'm not trying to give a big head I'll pick on him and make you know
make sure they get humble later but we've got some great young people in
this church we got these single kids they love the Lord they go soul-winning
they listen to their pastor they want to get married the pastor says you gotta
wait a year they say we don't want to but we'll do it we'll submit to you
pastor we love you they go soul-winning they go to church they read their Bible
we've got some young men we've got some young kids here they're they're they're
they're working grown-up adult jobs they're choosing jobs they're choosing
jobs based off the fact that they could still go to all three services go
soul-winning and support a family those are the kids of the new IP wait but
because you got this vendetta and you want to just try to you know try to make
somebody feel bad or look bad because their kid made a mistake all of you you
guys all suck it's ridiculous look any church you're gonna find good kids and
bad kids obviously I'm not saying every kid in the new IP is great but you know
what the old IP if you like it so much go go look at what they're producing
they're show show me show me the 30 year old old IFP product show me the 35
year old the 30 year old the 25 year old pastor that came out of Golden State
Baptist College West Coast Baptist College whatever Bible College you want
house Anderson called show me the 35 year old that's just standing up ripping
face leading a soul-winning movement in his community show it to me it doesn't
exist you're not gonna find a product of the old IP a 35 year old that came out
of the old IP that's just ripping face leading a hundred soul-winners down to
community it doesn't exist but this guy wants to make himself feel better and
you know what let me let me say it's about Jason about about Grayson Fritz
and you know the Bible people need to be careful and really just kind of take the
beam out of their own eye because you know Grayson Fritz and I and I and I hope
you all understand I'm gonna bring this up and I want to bring this up in the
right spirit this guy just had his oldest son joined the military now look
I'm not saying that because his oldest son joined the military that that makes
him a failure as a as a father I'm not saying that but I'll tell you this I
wouldn't want my kids joining the military I joined the military I would
and and and I know this about the military and by the way you kids listen
up don't join the military they own you you don't get to go to church you don't
get to go soul-winning they control your life for those years
this guy's son goes enjoys the military and look being in the military is not
the worst thing the world I'm not saying that makes him a failure but it's not
the greatest thing in the world either and I just think it's funny that he's
getting up there and just screaming and yelling about being a godly parrot and
how you guys all suck when his oldest son just joined the military it's like
you're not really succeeding either buddy I'll just take the beam out of
your own eye you think you'd have a little grace when other kids messed up
you think you'd be a little more loving and look I'm not saying he failed as a
parent I'm not saying he needs to quit the ministry I'm not saying any of that
but I'm saying this not having your kids join the most is not the greatest thing
in the world it's not the desire I have for my children it's not the thing that
that I would want our kid and by the way you know 99% of the new IP kids are
terrible the old life be you know I can tell you story after story after story
of kids from this church sitting in this auditorium right now I can tell you
story after story after story and some of you moms and some of you dads can
can nod your heads and say yes to the fact that you had kids that thought
about going into the military and you talked them out of it and I talked them
out of it and we went to them and said don't do it they're gonna own you and
you know what those kids they submitted to their pastor they submitted to their
mother they submitted to their father and they chose different jobs I mean
I've got better parents in my church than you but you want to sit there and
attack us attacking the kids of the new IP to make yourself feel better so I
don't think you should bring that up take it up with Peter take it up with
John I mean how are we supposed to look when a few kids mess up and then it
becomes your mantra becomes your just your your thing you're constantly gonna
bring up we're just trying to raise godly kids we're just trying to raise
godly kids what are we supposed to think except for the fact that you're just
trying to dig jabs at our friends number four I got five of these how about
the fact that they attacked our church members for asking questions on
salvation now look this is the truth you listen to those guys you listen to those
guys and this is what they make it sound they make it sound and they're liars and
if they had any integrity they would make a video tomorrow and say you know
what number four pastor Jimenez was right he called me on the carpet and he
was true and he told the truth and let me apologize publicly that's what they
should do because if you listen to their sermons you know what they make it sound
like they make it sound like our church members are just listening to their
preaching and they're just listening for them to mention some random pastor
friend of theirs and then our church members are just like let's Google that
guy and find everything wrong with that guy and just and just attack him that's
what they make it sound like and they're pretty full of themselves they
they'll act like you know I'm just mentioning this guy down the street and
then this guy in California he just starts googling the name and finds all
these bad things about well here's the problem with that that's called a
strawman argument that's a lie and you know it that's not what happened you
said well what happened what happened is there's a heretic named Stacey Shiflett
who was being interviewed and promoted to our church he was being interviewed
and promoted to the new IP promoted to our church people he was trying to sell
his book to our church people he was trying to be they were gonna invite him
to events with our church people and let me tell you something that wasn't just
some random guy you happen to mention in a sermon you're trying to bring his
influence into our church people and at that point you know what our church
people have been trained to try all the spirits try the spirits whether they be
of God don't just start picking up books and reading them find out what those
people believe and make sure they're actually saved yeah you want to make it
sound like I just mentioned my friend and then they just started attacking him
well that's a lie and you got to admit the fact that you're lying you're they're
trying to promote Stacey Shiflett promote him to our church promote him to
our movement get our people to buy his book and then some people actually
bought the book read it and they were like this guy is repent of your sins
heretic and they just start attacking our church people and you know and they
start mocking and it was you know I'll just call them I'm calling everybody out
by name they're calling out brother Luke I'm calling brother Luke out by name you
don't like it Paul did it no because brother Luke makes this video you know
and Grayson Fritz is up there and you know because he loves he loves the fact
that he's from Tennessee I reckon and and he thinks he's making fun of it you
know he sees Luke this blonde blue-eyed kid and he thinks he's making fun of
this like surfer from California and he's making fun of Luke and he's saying
he's if you listen to what he's talking saying about brother Luke he's saying
like you're sitting there in your in your little car making a little video
and you've never even been to our part of the country your partner even come to
our state you never even been around here you know what's funny is that
brother Luke is from Kentucky he grew up in a repent of your sins Church right in
that area by the way that's why he cares so much about it but you're so arrogant
and stupid you don't even take the time to figure out why does this kid care so
much no I care so much because that doctrine has damned his own whole family
to help he's from the south to reckon and you just think you're making fun of
Californians you wanna make fun of Californians make fun of me I'm a
Californian you say yeah California this California that I've been to the rest of
the country it sucks there's a reason why it's so expensive to live here no
offense to all my pastor friends that live other places we love you but you
know what they've attacked our church members for doing you know here's the
thing this is what we tell people they attack our church members are doing what
we've taught them to do that's bad that's bad enough but you know what's
worse they've attacked our church members for doing what the Bible tells
them to do the Bible says try every spirit the Bible says try every spirit
whether they be of God the Bible says you shouldn't just start picking up
books and start listening to preaching and start letting people influence you
without you testing them and judging them and making sure they're right and
and because it embarrassed you and it embarrassed your little friend you know
what you owe them an apology they're doing exactly what the Bible told them
to do well they shouldn't be asking a pastor about salvation are you crazy
they shouldn't be asking a pastor about salvation if there's any guy in the
world you should ask about salvation is the pastor I talked to our church
members how about preach angry and bitter sermons about our church members
and our pastor friends I mean they're calling our church members I'm talking
about people from Verity Baptist Church and other churches of like faith and
practice they're calling them clowns bozos stooges you get all mad oh they
pastor Thompson to call them out by name he called out pastor Anderson and
pastor Shelley by name and called them stupid I mean what are we supposed to
think and this is what people with that no discernment have because they'll say
well he didn't say pastor Anderson is stupid okay here's what he said does
pastor Anderson do stupid things yes you say that's not the same thing it's
exactly the same thing he's calling them stupid you say well don't pastors get
disagree look I've stood up here and preach sermons and I've taught things
that I knew my pastor friends maybe we're a little different on and you
know what somebody who's normal who actually loves their friends says you
know we're preaching against false prophets we just rip on them and
whatever but you know when somebody actually has a friend and loves their
friend I mean you've heard me say I'll stand up here and I'll say now look this
is an on this issue on this position I've got pastor friends that maybe they
believe something a little different and that's fine they're independent Baptist
in their church they can do whatever they want but here here's what we do
here's what we believe that's how people who like each other talk you know that
let me help some of you that don't have any discernment you know that we
communicate on a larger level than just our words you you don't only to
communicate using your words you communicate using your body language you
communicate using your facial expressions you communicate using your
tone of voice you communicate using all sorts of things and I dare you to go
listen that sermon and tell me you're not listening to a very bitter and angry
man and he tells you in the sermon what he's bitter about he's mad that people
are listening in his church people are listening to Pastor Anderson and Pastor
Jimenez and Pastor Mejia and all these other pastors in the new IFP you say
well they shouldn't be listening to Pastor Anderson well let me let you in
on a little secret they're only there because of Pastor Anderson there they
they they preach these angry so and look those of you say you came to the wrong
conclusion well what what other conclusion were we supposed to come to
when they're attacking us about coronavirus when they're befriending
everybody that turns against us when they're attacking the kids in the new
life be when they're attacking our church members for doing what the Bible
tells them to do when they preach angry bitter sermons about our church and the
other people say but they think he didn't call you out by name well that's
the point of subtle passive-aggressive attacks you say but why are they being
subtle here's why they're being subtle yeah why won't they just come out
against you here's why they won't come out against us because they're still
feeding off us you know why they won't attack us it's not because they don't
like they they they respect us they don't like us they attack us by name
all of us by name but here's why they won't is because they still want the guy
listening to Pastor Anderson they still want the guy listening to Pastor Mejia
they still want the guy listening to Pastor Shelley they still want the guy
listening to Pastor Jimenez that happens to live near them they still want that
guy to show up to their church but they also once they get there they want to
turn them against us so that they'll only love them and look some of you you
know you're not in ministry and you don't understand this and I will tell
you I understand where they're coming from sometimes especially early in the
ministry for for me you know I can I I'm not saying it's right I'm just telling
you I can understand what they're coming for sometimes you feel like you're
living under somebody's shadow you know you have people show up to your church
and all they talk about is another pastor and it can make you feel bad
sometimes so I I understand where they're coming from but you know you
can either decide to let things make you bitter or better and you know these guys
have decided to make let to just get bitter about it and get angry about it
and let's just attack Pastor Anderson let's attack Pastor Thompson let's
attack Pastor Jimenez let's bring them down in hopes that our people will like
us more you know I'll be honest with you I can understand where they're coming
from I remember years ago thinking to myself man I've got all these people
coming into our church and they just keep telling me about how great these
other pastors are and how we should do what they're doing and we should do this
and we should do that and look I can understand how that can be frustrating
but you know what I decided a long time ago maybe I just need to get better
instead of getting bitter why don't I get better you know what I thought to
myself I thought maybe I should make an awesome documentary maybe I should try
to get better at preaching maybe I should create better content so people
will like to listen to me maybe since these people are here I can pray for
them I can love them I can have them over to my house for dinner I can visit
them in the hospital and eventually I'll earn their love and respect and they'll
love me too they don't have to stop hating him and to start loving me
sometimes people just need to decide hey instead of getting bitter why don't you
get better you know I I thank God I've we've got church people here who say
pastor you know honestly I'm so busy at work I'm so busy I don't have time to
listen to any of the other preachers you know I come three three times a week
here and that's that's all I that's that's all I need you know what I say
praise the Lord maybe if your people feel so badly like they have to go home
if your people feel like they have to go home on Sunday night and listen to
somebody else maybe you're not feeding them I don't think you should say that
you like discernment Paul would have said it and you know I'm telling you is
if people were doing this to you be subtle passive-aggressive so don't sit
there and tell me you came to the wrong conclusion no you came to the wrong
conclusion you're not paying attention go to Philippians chapter 1 Philippians
chapter 1 I'm gonna preach a little longer than I normally do because I'm
gonna get this all out and then we're gonna get back to preaching about years
then next week okay you say but these guys are saved you know here's the thing
as far as I know they're saved you know we get accused of every time we don't
like somebody we reprobate them first of all that's a yucky word to reprobate
someone but you know you know what I understand that sometimes we we fight
with people and they're saved as far as I know they're saved I don't know I mean
sometimes people come out with all these weird things and we're like okay that
guy's not saved but you say well they're saved and they're they're leading soul
winning and they're getting people saved you know you know here's my thoughts on
that if there's not guys out there that are saved and they hate me or they hate
my friends or they're just fighting against us but they're getting people
saved you know my position is the same position as the Apostle Paul I rejoice I
rejoice that they're getting people saved I actually just preached about
this last week in Philippians but I'm gonna show it to you again because it's
all of a sudden become highly applicable this week Philippians 1 15 notice what
the Apostle Paul said he said some now in verse 14 he was talking about the
brethren in the Lord and in verse 15 he says some referring to the brethren the
Lord he's talking about saved people he says some indeed preach Christ even of
envy and strife and some also of goodwill look do you think that there
are guys out there who preach entire sermons again you know sermons about
being an independent Baptist or whatever and their entire motivation for that
sermon is that they're envious at Pastor Anderson and Pastor Jimenez and Pastor
Thompson and Pastor Mihir Pastor Shelley and that's why they're preaching the
sermon some indeed preach Christ of envy and strife you don't think that happens
because I do you don't think there's guys out there who hold entire King
James only conferences and their purpose is not to actually turn people towards
the King James issue but their whole purpose was to just show how much they
were more King James than the rest of us and they hold an entire conference even
of envy and strife you don't think that happens because I do look even in our
churches you don't think there's people who go soul winning and their entire
motivation is just to do more soul winning than the pastor does to do more
soul winning than the staff does to do more soul winning than the staff wives
do what their 500 kids to do more soul winning than the pastor's wife does
because I do some some people some indeed preach Christ even of envy and
strife not out of the right motivation look at verse 16 the one preach Christ
of contention not sincerely supposing to add affliction to my bond you don't
think that there are some guys out there who preach about being a godly parent
not because they actually want people to be godly pants but just to add
affliction to some parents who just had their kids do something stupid you don't
think that happens because I do he says the one preach Christ of contention not
sincerely supposing to add affliction to my bonds he says but the other of love
knowing that I am set for the defense of the gospel he says what then says so
what he says notwithstanding every way whether in pretense or in truth Christ
is preached and I therein do rejoice yeah I will rejoice you know what I
don't have to like their stupid conference and I don't have to like their
stupid comments but if they're getting people say as far as them getting people
say my position is I rejoice yeah and I will rejoice if someone is saved and
they're attacking us but they're getting other people saved as far as them
getting people say I rejoice in that you know what the funny thing is that if
somebody called me the funny thing is there's somebody called me from that
area and said hey is there a good church in this area I still recommend them if
they're preaching the right gospel I'd say hey you know there's this church
down there but you might not want to mention you like me you say what do you
call that you call that maturity you know I can call them out for being
liars and snakes and weasels but if they're preaching the right gospel you
know whatever I rejoice and if they're false prophets we'll call them out on
the carpet for that too but you say but why are they subtle because they want to
continue to feed off of us they want to continue to gain our followers so you
know what pastor Thompson did he said you know what I'm sick and tired of
these guys just attacking me attacking me attacking me attacking my friends and
they're just gaining from us so you just called him out so people would stop so
people would know like hey this guy's not our friend how do you know are you
do you need the list you need the five things those are just the five I gave
you yeah what what what's the issue you know here's the issue sometimes
Christians fight they've been fighting since the first century get over it
you say what's the issue the issue is that subtle passive-aggressive attacks
the point is for them to be subtle and if you don't have the discernment to see
it then maybe you just keep your mouth shut let me give you a third statement
we'll finish up go to judges chapter 9 judges chapter 9 here's a statement for
these guys these pastors but honestly this is a statement for every pastor
this is a statement for every young man whoever wants to be a pastor this is
really a statement for every man sitting in this auditorium especially young men
now before I give you the statement let me give you the story judges chapter 9 I
really like the story because it really highlights what I want to say judges 9
verse 28 Genesis Exodus Leviticus numbers Deuteronomy Joshua judges judges
928 and Gail the son of Ebed said who is Abimelech now here we have two
leaders and by the way they're both bad guys in the story that doesn't matter it
brings a point across and he says and Gail the son of Ebed said who is
Abimelech and who is Shechem that we should serve him is not he the son of
Jerubel and Zebel his officer served the men of Hamor the father of Shechem for
why should we serve him now notice notice what Gail says in verse 29 and
would to God this people were under my hand doesn't that sound like Absalom
then would I remove Abimelech so here you have Abimelech the leader and you
got this Gail guy and by the way if you read the context they're all getting
drunk at a party and he starts running his mouth who is Abimelech who is
Shechem that we should serve why should I serve him what to God of this people
were under my hand then would I remove Abimelech and he that's Gail said to
Abimelech now he's speaking to Abimelech but Abimelech is not there he says
increase thine army and come out now notice verse 30 and when Zebel the
ruler of the city heard the words of Gail so like the mayor of the city was
there at this gathering and he heard he heard Gail running his mouth I mean Gail
is just challenging Abimelech Abimelech is not even in the city Abimelech
somewhere else completely and he's just running his mouth and he's saying
Abimelech increase thine army and come out you fight me you coward that's what
Gail is saying but Abimelech is not there verse 30 and when Zebel the ruler of
the city heard the words of Gail the son of Ebed his anger was kindled and he
sent messengers unto Abimelech privately saying behold Gail the son of Ebed and
his brethren be come to Shechem and behold they fortify the city against thee
and just for sake of time let me just skip some of this but go down to verse
34 and Abimelech rose up and all the people that were with him by night then
they laid weight against Shechem in four companies so Gail's running his mouth
he's just drunk and he's just saying come out and fight me Abimelech is not
even in the city but Zebel the ruler of the city he heard this and he got mad
so he sends a messenger to Abimelech and he says hey this is what this guy's
saying about you so Abimelech rose up and all the people that were with him by
night and they laid weight against Shechem in four companies Gail gets up
the next day and he sees the army look at verse 37 and Gail speak again and
said see there come people down by the middle of the land and another company
come along by the plains of Meoneam he he sees these armies coming down and
he's like have you seen the people they're coming look at verse 38 then
said Zebel unto him I love this phrase so every young man should underline this
phrase in their Bible then said Zebel unto him where is now thy mouth he said
you were you were running your mouth tough guy where is now thy mouth where
with thou said is who is Abimelech that we should serve him is not this the
people that thou has despised go out I pray now and fight with them and Gail
went out before the men of Shechem and fought with Abimelech and Abimelech
chased him and he fled him before him and many were overthrown and wounded
even unto the entering of the gate you say that's an interesting story what
was the lesson there for every man every young man every pastor every future
pastor here's the lesson for you when you take jabs at people they might hit
back so if you can't take it don't don't dish it out you know it's easy to
be the bully and be angry and and just you know bullying people and taking jabs
and preaching and calling people bozo cuz it's a young guy in California
calling bozos and stooges and they're stupid and they're clowns and they all
suck at parenting but you know what here's what you don't understand pastor
Thompson's a grown man he tries to have to serve he tries to love you and be
patient with you but eventually men get fed up and you know what if you take
jabs with someone they might hit you back and by the way figuratively you
know but even you young guys physically so you know what if you can't take it
don't dish it out maybe you ought to give a second thought and think there's
off should I be saying this to this person maybe they'll call me out on the
carpet and I'll be ashamed and embarrassed look it's just a lesson and
look even as pastors even when we call out the bad guys I mean we call out the
bad guys and you know what they do they make all these videos about me and my
family lying about me you say well pastor you know doesn't that bother you
here's the thing if it's a fight if I if I'm gonna stand for the truth I have to
realize sometimes you're gonna get hit sometimes they're gonna lie about you
sometimes they're gonna they're gonna you know in a fight you're gonna get hit
sometimes so when you take jabs at people realize sometime they might get
upset and just call you out on the carpet call you out publicly you take
jabs at people jabs of people jazz make fun of their kids make fun of them for
live stream only make fun of this make for all these subtle things eventually
they might turn around and just smack you back and the difference about men of
integrity that they'll just call you out by name look every young man should
know that sometimes you take jabs at people and they might hit you back so if
you can't take it don't dish it out if you don't like it you call those out my
name start paddling back on all your comments
why don't you stand by them I'd have more respect for you if you just made a
video said I think past you man is a coward for going live stream only and I
would be like well at least the guy has a backbone I still don't agree with him
I still don't like it I still think but you know why won't they do that because
they want our influence they want the new IP to till still feed them they want
to be able to be these bottom feeders and just feed people off of us and
everyone that turns against us they're just gonna befriend them they're gonna
have their little revival conference of all the new IP misfits all the rejects
that we rejected you say pastors does it upset you it doesn't upset me you think
I want to go to their stinking conference watch their promo videos
it's so lame they're like we're gonna have revival we're gonna have revival
get out of here good riddance get rid of you and stick with the red hot pre-g
conference every day of the week you know what you can only push men for so
long and eventually they're just gonna get to the point where they it's time to
call this guy out and if you don't like it then don't dish it out if you don't
if you can't take it then don't don't try to act like some tough guy because
when you hit people sometimes they might hit you back that's why our heads an
apple to prayer how many father thank you look for your word thing for the
Bible no thank you for the fact that you just give us all this all this human
relationship in the Bible you show us that spiritual leaders fight sometimes
pastors fight sometimes it's public and you know what sometimes it needs to be
public and Lord help us to be people of discernment help us to at the very least
be people who give the men of God a benefit of the of the doubt and they at
least wondered to themselves maybe pastor Thompson has a reason why he's
done what he's done and Lord in the areas where these other people that
don't like us where they're saved and they're getting people saved you know
what in those areas I rejoice and the rest of it I don't need to be their
friends they don't need to be our friends and Lord help us and help help
our church people at the very least to take away from the sermon to learn a
lesson on loyalty you should stand with your friends you should back up your
friends and that you shouldn't be this person who's just trying to be friends
with everybody because people that are friends with everybody are friends with
no one they're only friends with themselves Lord help us to learn that
understand that help us to be mature Christians and Lord help us to be mature
enough to realize that sometimes Christians fight sometimes pastors fight
and that's okay it's been going on to the first century or thank you for
documenting these things for us showing these things to us in the Bible in the
matchless name of Christ we pray amen