You
find a seat and grab a hymnal and turn to our first hymn, hymn number seven, I gave
my life for thee, hymn number seven, I gave my life for thee, we'll go ahead and start
Good singing this morning will open with a word of prayer.
Dear Father, thank you for this church and the opportunity that we have to sing
praises unto you. Help us to pay attention to the words
that we're singing and I pray that you'd bless the remainder of the service
and fill Pastor Oz with your spirit as he preaches to us, Lord.
In Jesus' name I pray, amen. For our second hymn, if you would, turn in your
hymnals to hymn number 18. Take the name of Jesus with you hymn
Game number 18, we'll go ahead and start there right on the first.
Take the name of Jesus.
If you need a bulletin, please raise your hand, and Usher will bring you one.
On the front is our Bible memory passage of the week, Galatians chapter one, verse seven,
and also a great picture of downtown Oklahoma City there, at least that might be what it
looks like on Tuesday.
On the inside, you do see our service times listed at 10.30 on Sunday mornings, 4.30 Sunday
evenings, and our Wednesday evening Bible study through 1st Samuel at seven o'clock.
Also our soul winning times are listed there, today is at two o'clock.
Nursing Home Ministry schedule is listed there,
Brother John Reed preaching this weekend,
and next weekend, Brother Cameron Hall.
Our year to date statistics are there for soul winning.
Great job and keep up the faithfulness of soul winning,
especially in the cold weather.
I know it's hard, but people are still going to hell
and we need to make sure we're doing our job
being watchmen for them.
On the right hand side,
if you see our list of expecting ladies,
please be in prayer for Miss Whitney Reed.
for her pregnancy is that date is getting closer and closer so it's coming up pretty soon upcoming
events our next men's preaching night is going to be the evening of March 9th and so I'll have a
sign up sheet for that pretty soon but again we'll have a potluck afterwards so please bring
a dish to share or dessert or both if you're feeling generous bring both why not we love it
here for sure March 15th is Whitney Reed's baby shower and there is a note for that with more
with that so if you have any questions you can go ahead and ask her get in
contact with her April yeah April 19th excuse me is our Easter soul-winning
marathon we're probably going to be hitting the Eastern side of OKC is a
really receptive area out there and I'm excited to do some soul winning out
there May 16th through the 18th
the King James Conference at Sher Foundation Baptist Church. May 31st
we're teaming up with Steadfast Baptist Church and doing a joint soul winning
marathon in Durant, Oklahoma. It's gonna be a great time there. June 28th is going
to be the Tinker Air Show at the Tinker Air Force Base here in town and August
27th or the 31st is the Fire Breathing Baptist Fellowship. I know it's a way out
but I want to put it in there that way we can make plans for time off if you want
to make it down.
October 6th through the 11th is the Bahamas mission trip. There's some
details given below about giving. If you'd like to do that online or by
check and on the back is our prayer list. There's some updates there and as
always if you have any requests please do email me. I'd be happy to add that for
you. That's going to be it for announcements this morning. We will go to our
third song.
Alright, for our third song, if you would take your hymnals and turn to hymn number 37,
there will be no dark valley.
Hymn number 37, there will be no dark valley.
We'll go ahead and start there right on the first.
There will be no dark valley when Jesus comes.
There'll be no dark valley.
Together is love once more.
There we know more sorrow when Jesus comes.
But a glorious sorrow when Jesus comes.
Together is love.
When Jesus comes, together his love wants all.
There'll be no more weeping when Jesus comes.
But a blessed weeping when Jesus comes.
Well, it's...
plates are being passed around. Turn in your Bibles to Deuteronomy chapter number eight.
Deuteronomy chapter number eight.
Later on in chapter 8, all the commandments which I command thee this day, shall ye observe
and do, that ye may live and multiply, and go in and possess the Lamb, which the Lord
swear unto your fathers, and thou shalt remember all the way which the Lord thy God led thee
these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what is in
And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou newest
not.
Neither did thy fathers know, that he might make thee to know, that man doth not live by
bread only, but by every word that proceeded out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.
Thy raiment wax not old upon thee, neither did thy foot swell.
Thou shalt also consider in thine heart that, as a man chasing it his son, so the Lord thy God chasing it thee.
Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God to walk in his ways and to fear him.
For the Lord thy God bringeth thee into a good land, a land of brooks, of water, of fountains, and depths that spring out of the valleys and hills.
A land of wheat, and barley, and vines, and fig trees, and pomegranates, and a land of
olive oil and honey.
A land wherein thou shalt eat bread without scarceness.
Thou shalt not lack anything in it, a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills
thou mayest dig brass.
Then thou shalt bless the Lord thy God for the good land which he hath given thee.
Beware that thou forget not the Lord thy God in keeping his commandments and his judgments
and his statutes, which I command thee this day, lest when thou hast eaten in art full
And when thy herds and thy flocks multiply,
and thy silver and thy gold is multiplied,
and all that thou hast is multiplied,
when thine heart be lifted up,
and thou forget the Lord thy God,
which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt,
from the house of bondage,
who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness,
wherein were fiery serpents and scorpions and drought.
And there was no water, who brought thee forth water out of the rock of Flint,
who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not,
that he might humble thee, and that he might prove thee, to do thee good at thy latter end.
And thou say in thy heart, my power, and that might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth.
But thou shalt remember the Lord thy God for it is he that give it the
Power to get wealth that he may establish his covenant
Which he swear unto thy fathers as it is this day and it shall be if thou do
At all forget the Lord thy God and walk after other gods and serve them and worship them
I testify against you this day that they shall surely perish
the nations which the which the Lord destroyed before your face, so shall
ye perish, because ye would not be obedient unto the voice of the Lord your
God. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we're thankful to be gathered in your house today.
Amen. Deuteronomy chapter 8, verse 5, the Bible says,
Thou shalt also consider in thine heart
that as a man chaseneth his son,
so the Lord thy God chaseneth thee.
Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments
of the Lord thy God to walk in his ways and to fear him.
And the title of my sermon this morning
is Biblical Child Discipline.
Biblical Child Discipline.
Now, the title is Biblical Child Discipline
because I don't wanna preach opinion child discipline.
And there's a thousand different books,
there's a thousand different philosophies
from different segments of the world
that wanna teach you how to raise your kids.
There's all these different methods out there,
but we are Baptists, meaning we believe the Bible.
And the Bible is the final authority
on everything that we believe,
whether it's something that's popular in our culture or not,
we need to make sure we're basing our beliefs
off of the scripture,
not off of our own worldly philosophy or our own opinions.
Now, stay there and I'm gonna read for you
Isaiah 55 verse nine, the Bible says,
for as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
You know, this idea should apply to every doctrine.
everything in the Bible that God's ways are higher than our ways. And if we are
ever confronted with something in scripture, a biblical doctrine that we
face that kind of goes against what we think or our nature is or what we've
been raised to believe, we need to submit ourselves to the Word of God and
realize that God's ways are higher.
His thoughts are better.
If God disagrees with us on something,
he's obviously the one that's right, okay?
We don't want to be the ones correcting the Bible.
And especially as preachers, you know,
I do not want to be as a pastor,
someone who gets up here and corrects the Bible
or preaches my opinion over what the word of God says.
Now.
Number one, I'm only gonna have two points this morning.
Number one, I wanna show you this.
God disciplines His children.
This is an important foundation
for what we're gonna be talking about this morning.
But again, stay there in Deuteronomy 8.
The Bible says in John 1-12,
but as many as received Him,
to them gave He power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on His name.
Right, so there's the idea out there in the world
that everybody's the child of God.
We're all sons and daughters of God.
You know, that's not biblical.
The truth is we are all the creation of God.
We are all the offspring of God in the sense that God created us.
But to become a son of God,
it's not something that you're just born into by being a human being.
You have to be born again, right?
You have to be adopted into the family of God to become a son or daughter.
But once you are a son of daughter or daughter,
the Bible teaches that God will
discipline his children. Look again at Deuteronomy 8 verse 5. It says,
So here we see that the Bible makes this comparison to the way that average Joe punishes his child,
disciplines his child, is the same way that God punishes us, right? So it's just the Bible is
it's clear, it's normal, it's natural that a father, that a parent is going to discipline
their children and it's implied in this verse that this is a good thing because the Bible
saying in the same way that a parent does this for their children, God does this for
his children and of course everything that God does is right.
You know, people love to attack the Bible and show you different stories.
Look how God reacted in this situation.
Look how God wiped out these wicked people.
Look what God said about this law or whatever.
But here's the thing, I'm a Christian and I believe that everything that God ever did
was perfect and right.
I believe that every statute, every word, every law in God's book is true and right
and is wise.
It's the best thing.
It says, therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways,
and to fear him.
So it's kind of implied that it'd be normal for a son or daughter to fear their mother
and father.
Why? Because they're going to get disciplined, they're going to get
chastened, and there's a certain amount of healthy fear
that we need to have of God in the same way that
a child should have a healthy fear of their parents.
Why? Because parents are kind of a representation
of God for a young child.
A young child is not able to read.
A young child is not able to understand
doctrine as much as adults can.
And so at a young age,
they just need to learn to fear their parents
so that that could transfer over into fearing God.
You know, me as an adult,
I don't have my mom or dad telling me what to do.
They're not giving me spankings.
They're not giving me rules or all these things,
but there is someone that still keeps me in check.
It's God.
And, you know, quite honestly, I'm more afraid of him than anyone else in this world, but
people who grew up not fearing their parents, they often grow up and not fear God.
You don't respect your parents as a kid, you often grow up and don't respect God.
Go to Psalm chapter 94, Psalm chapter number 94.
So so far we've seen that.
God is going to discipline his children.
He's not one of these anything goes type God's one of these anything goes type leaders.
No, he is going to keep his children in line.
He is going to punish sin.
He is going to keep his children in check.
Psalm 94 verse 12.
says this, blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O Lord,
and teaches him out of thy law.
See, it is actually a blessing to be disciplined
and punished by God,
because through correction comes growth.
And, you know, a child who is deprived of discipline and correction from their parents,
they are missing out on something in their life that's actually supposed to help them.
The whole point of disciplining or punishing a child is not just the punishment of sin
in and of itself, though that is an aspect of it, but it's a hope that there will be
some change and some growth from that, right?
And so the Bible is saying, look, it's actually a blessing when you are chastened by God.
because the truth is that sin is going to destroy our lives.
Whether you think it's fun,
whether you think your ways are higher than God's ways,
the truth is when you break God's commandments,
you are going down a road that is going to destroy your life,
your family, all the things you care about.
God, because he loves us, he sees the road we're going
and he's going to correct us and chastise us
because we need that blessing from him.
Go to Hebrews chapter number 12.
And even God created us, just in our own biology, to have like a built-in punishment for doing wrong,
just to keep us alive, right?
I mean, the whole example of putting your hand on a hot stove, right?
You feel that pain and it corrects you, hey, this is bad, I need to correct this issue so I don't destroy myself.
You know, you go outside today, if you went out in your underwear, your biology would be screaming,
hey, get inside or you're going to be dead soon.
Put some coals on, put a jacket on,
because God just built that into us to preserve our life,
so that we don't destroy ourselves.
Hebrews 12, verse five says,
and ye have forgotten the exhortation
which speaketh unto you as unto children.
My son despise not thou the chastening of the Lord,
nor faint when thou art rebuked of him.
So notice, this is not a if situation.
It's not a question of if you're a child of God,
well, will you receive discipline from God?
Will you receive correction?
No, it's, hey, don't despise the chastening.
Don't be weary of it.
Don't faint of it when it happens.
Because every single child of God
is going to be disciplined, is going to be punished.
And God, as the perfect Father,
notice he disciplines all of his children.
All of them now there are some Christians that are much better than others, right?
I mean you have a lot as an example of someone who saved
who is going to need a lot of punishment and a lot of correction,
but it doesn't matter the greatest Christian in the Bible or the greatest Christian who's ever lived,
God also is going to punish that person.
God is also going to discipline that person.
And so it just logic follows that God expects us to do the same with our children,
that he expects every single child to receive discipline and correction and not to withhold that.
from a singular child
because that's actually doing them a disservice.
You're actually removing a blessing from them
and the world likes to look at corporal punishment
or spanking and think that it's an abuse
or something like that, but it's actually a blessing.
It actually is helping that child, helping their character.
And when they become adults, they will appreciate it.
I can honestly stand here today and say
that I actually wished my parents had spanked me more.
And I'm thankful that they did.
I'm thankful that at least I didn't have any spankings,
but I would have probably been a better person
if they would have spanked me even more.
And we as parents gotta remember that,
that we need to give that blessing
to our children as well.
Verse six, for whom the Lord loveth.
He chaseneth, and scurgeth every son whom he receiveth.
See, this is a point where some Christians just need to renew their mind
and submit to God's ideas and God's philosophies
because he's saying that discipline, chastising, scurging his children
is actually something he does to those that he loves.
So it is an act of benevolence. It is an act of love.
It's a blessing that God gives to his children when
when he disciplines us. Verse 7 says,
if he endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons.
Right? So again, he's comparing earthly fathers,
common dads, how they chastise their kids.
God's dealing with us as with sons.
For what son is he whom the Father chastened if not?
It's just implying, like, look, if you never got discipline from God,
the question is, are you even a son, right?
You know, there's kids in this room that I have never disciplined.
You want to know why?
Because they're not my son and they're not my daughter.
But all of my kids are going to be disciplined.
And if I had a child that was never, ever disciplined,
you'd have to ask, like, is this even your kid?
Because you're not even acting like you love them.
You're not even giving them the love that they deserve.
And let me tell you, this discipline, this chastisement, this correction that God gives us, is not only a verbal correction, sometimes even God himself gives us physical corrections.
Here's the verbal correction that God gives us, right? Is the word of God, the preaching of God's word, but you know what? God can come down like a ton of bricks on your life and even punish you physically.
And there was people in the Bible who were saved, who were physically punished by God.
How about Miriam?
When her and Aaron were speaking against Moses, and God smote her with leprosy.
I mean, that's a physical punishment. That's an intense punishment, right?
Okay, how about Uzzah?
When he touched the Ark of God, what happened to him?
He was killed. Talk about a severe punishment.
And we're not sitting here saying that Uzzah was unsaved.
I believe that he was.
But he sinned severely in this issue and God killed him.
How about Jonah?
Jonah was swallowed by a whale.
I mean, that is not fun, that's an intense physical punishment that God gave to one of
His prophets.
You're going to say God doesn't love Jonah, God does love Jonah.
But when Jonah is not wanting to preach the gospel, when Jonah's being stiff-necked, when
Jonah's hating the people of the world rather than loving them and wanting to get them saved,
God's going to correct that.
And you know what, we should read these stories and fear God and say, wow, we have a Heavenly
Father that's actually going to correct us, that's actually going to keep us in line.
And we can't just think that us as his children, we could get away with whatever we want.
No, God will punish us.
and to whom much is given of him shall much be required.
You know, the more you've been given
and the more responsibility that you've taken on yourself,
you know, the higher of a position you may hold,
even so much the more will God hold you accountable.
You know, my brethren, be not many masters
knowing we shall receive the greater condemnation,
saying like, you know, if you become a pastor
or a deacon or evangelist or something like that,
God is gonna hold you much more accountable
than just your average child,
but every child he will punish.
How about Ananias and Sapphira lying to the Holy Ghost and were literally killed and these were God's children?
So look, yes, God punishes and corrects verbally and parents should do the same thing, right?
But the world, this is where they want to stop.
They want to say like, yeah, you could tell your kid that they did something wrong.
Yeah, you could tell your kid what the right thing to do is.
But anything above that, many people would say is just abuse.
Many people would say that that's wrong.
You should never spank a child.
Or they'll say that spanking doesn't work, that it's counterintuitive, that you're actually
causing a child to harbor hatred for his parents or to be more rebellious or more disobedient.
physically sometimes.
You know, that doesn't make any sense.
It's not logical and it's not biblical, most importantly.
Verse eight says,
But if ye be without chastisement,
where of all are partakers,
then are ye bastards and not sons.
See, the unsaved, they do not experience
the loving, active correction and discipline of God.
The unsaved, they still suffer from the consequences of their sin just because a lot of sins have built-in punishments, right?
I mean, if you go commit a bunch of fornication, God does not have to actively judge you.
He doesn't have to put forth his hand in your life and curse you because you're quite honestly just cursing yourself.
And if you keep that up, you're going to end up full of diseases.
You're going to end up having a bunch of bastard children.
You're going to end up having a bunch of consequences from your sin just by nature, right?
Drinking alcohol?
God does not have to actively put forth His hand into your life and curse you.
You're drinking poison.
You're cursing yourself.
And then you're going to get in the car and who knows what's going to happen.
You crash and die.
You kill someone else.
You know, yesterday there was a death by our health
that's sinful, that's leading to their destruction.
They may think that they're on the right path,
they may think it's fun,
but the truth is when God punishes them,
and when someone makes that correction
and starts going down the right path,
starts following what the Bible says,
starts getting into church, starts becoming a soul winner,
they're gonna find out that the fruits of righteousness
are better than anything that the world has to offer.
And when you get saved and beyond getting saved, you actually decide to live for God.
You're going to look back at your old life and realize what a waste of time it was.
And how there was nothing profitable there. There's nothing that you're missing as a Christian.
You know, if you are actually following the Bible and you're abstaining from alcohol and from fortification and from drugs,
you know, you should realize that there's nothing that you're missing in that life.
And people in this room who have gone down that road and then came out of it.
They could tell you young people who have not experienced that.
Yeah, there was nothing there.
Yeah, there was nothing but misery there.
Yeah, the commercials showing everyone having fun at the bar.
It's a lie.
You want to know what it is, it's a bunch of adultery happening, it's a bunch of
bastard children being made, it's a bunch of vomiting and feeling sick
and feeling like the world is spinning around you and getting in car accidents
and hurting yourself from things that you don't even remember.
That's what that sinful life brings you.
And people have never experienced it.
Sometimes they get curious.
Like, man, I wonder if it's really bad
as the pastor's saying.
I wonder if it's really bad as what the Bible's saying.
But look, you should just skip the portion of your life
where God has to judge you and chastise you
and just fear him and never go down that road to begin with.
But here's the problem.
Kids who grow up and don't fear their parents,
kids who grow up and are not chastised by their parents,
they grow up and they're not afraid of God.
And they don't want to listen to what God says.
Go to Revelation chapter number three Revelation chapter number three
Revelation chapter three verse 19
This is Jesus. He said this as many as I love I rebuke and
Chasen
Be zealous therefore and repent.
So notice the way that Jesus disciplines is it's two fold.
It's rebuke, that's the verbal correction, and then it's chasen.
That's often a physical correction.
Here's the definition I found of chasen.
To inflict suffering.
upon for the purposes of moral improvement.
That's a good definition of how it's used in the Bible.
It's to inflict suffering for the purposes of moral improvement.
Look, people have this idea that all suffering is bad.
No, the Bible says it is good for me that I have been afflicted,
that I might learn thy statutes.
And let me say this, it is good for me that I am chastened by God.
It is good for you when you are chastened by your parent's children.
It's good for you. Why?
So that you might learn God's statutes.
And so that you might learn your parent's statutes as well.
Now, number two this morning, very simple.
We talked about how God punishes his children.
Number two, parents must physically discipline their children.
If God does it, we should do it and the Bible talks a lot about it.
Let's go to Proverbs chapter 13.
Proverbs chapter 13.
And let's just look at several verses talking about physically disciplining your children.
First, again, I want to emphasize that spanking your kids is love.
It is an act of love to physically discipline your children.
Proverbs 13, verse 24 says, He that spareeth his rod, hatheth his son.
But he that loveth him, chaseneth him, betimes.
So notice, it is not hateful to spank your kids,
it is actually hateful to not spank your kids.
And those who actually love their children
are the one who are actually gonna take the time
and the effort and the energy to do what Jesus said,
rebuke and chasen, right?
Tell them they're doing wrong,
tell them they're breaking the rules
and give them a physical punishment for that.
That is an act of love.
And what's hateful is when I see kids that are 8, 9, 10 years old, who grew up never
being spanked and they're just absolute monsters.
That is a hateful thing to allow your child to grow up with no discipline because kids
are foolish.
Kids cannot just sit down and make all the decisions that they need to in life and to
be very disciplined people.
They need rules.
Children need rules.
Children need boundaries.
there must be punishment for it.
And telling Johnny no is not enough of a punishment.
Johnny needs to realize through the pain inflicted upon him
for the benefit of his moral character
that he needs to suffer some spankings.
He needs the rod of correction.
And not only this, because here's the thing.
People will often say, oh yeah, not spanking your kids is hateful, right?
Those who don't spare the rod are the ones that love.
Not only is it just hateful to not spank your kids,
it's hateful to even spare in your giving of the rod to your children, right?
So this means that spankings in child discipline must be consistent
because those who spare in their rod giving of, you know, spankings or whatever,
those who spare, those who hold back when it's needed,
you know, you're teaching your children that sometimes they can get away with stuff.
Sometimes mom and dad isn't going to care.
Sometimes I could just break my parents' rules
flippantly with no correction,
but is that the attitude that you want your kids to have
with God when they grow up?
Thinking like, yeah, the Bible's rules are optional,
the church rules are optional,
I only get punished one out of every 10 times.
No, that's actually a hateful thing to your kids
because you're breeding a rebellious attitude in them.
Discipline must be every single time. It must be consistent, right?
Now this doesn't mean that there could never be a situation
where you extend mercy to your child because there are situations where God extends
mercy to us, but especially when they're very young,
when they can't be reasoned with, you need to be constantly, consistently
giving them lots of spankings. And I'll just say like toddlers,
I don't think you could go a single day of a toddler's life without getting a spanking.
Like, I don't think that's realistic.
If you're going days without spanking your toddler,
you are sparing the rod.
I'm just telling you that right now.
So just look at your life.
If you're not spanking your toddlers every single day,
probably multiple, multiple times a day,
you're doing some sparing of your rod
and that's a hateful act towards your children.
Not only that, spanking should be early in life.
Notice what it says in verse 24 again.
He that spares his rod hated his son,
but he that loveth him,
chaseneth him, betimes, right?
That means early in life.
And, you know, I believe that you should start giving physical discipline, and of course,
the force that you apply in a spanking is going to be appropriate to the age, but there should
be some sort of a physical punishment given at the age that children understand the word
no and are able to move around, which is usually about six months, okay?
I've heard it preached that you got to wait till the kids are two years old.
That's insane, folks.
That is a bad idea to wait until a child is two years old.
Look, people call it the terrible twos.
Why are you waiting until your child is a terrorist?
No, as soon as they're crawling around, as soon as they're understanding, no, a light tap on the hand, a light tap on the bottom, just that in and of itself sometimes gets them to cry, and they're realizing that there's boundaries there.
We're not talking about hurting a baby.
We're not talking about injuring a child ever.
That's always wrong.
If I break this, I'm gonna have some sort of consequence.
And it needs to start early in life.
If you've waited till two, that is a mistake.
Going forward, my recommendation to you,
when you have kids, as soon as they're crawling around,
as soon as they can understand no,
you need to start giving some level
of physical discipline to that child.
Look at Proverbs 19.
Flip over to Proverbs 19.
Excuse me.
Proverbs 19, verse 18.
Notice what it says it says chasing thy son while there is hope and let not thy soul
Spare for his crying
You know, there is a invisible ticking time clock on your children for when discipline
is the most effective.
Now look, we should be getting discipline our entire lives because God gives it to us
that are adults, right?
It's not like you could only chase in a very young child, but when a child is very young,
that is when there is the most hope that the physical discipline that you're enacting
on them is going to have a big difference, right?
It's kind of like shooting in long range distances.
If you shoot at a really close distance
and you make a tiny little adjustment with your gun,
it's not really gonna make a huge difference on the target
because you're so close.
But like if you're shooting at 800 yards, 1,000 yards,
the tiniest little movement of the end of your barrel
is gonna have massive differences downrange.
And that's kind of how it is with kids as well.
It's like the corrections that you make when they are
a year old, two, three, four, five, six,
these really young ages,
that is when the most impact is gonna be made
in the spankings that you do.
and it says chase a nice son while there is hope because it comes to a certain
point where the spankings aren't working as good and the discipline isn't working
as good. Now you should still do what's right and you should still spank your
kids no matter what but I'm just saying the best time to spank them and the
most effectiveness that they're gonna get is when they are young. You know when
I see kids that are 10, 11, 12 and they've never been spanked, boy oh boy
would it be hard to start then.
Boy, oh boy, would it be hard for the parent of spent a decade not chasing their children,
not enforcing rules, being a paper tiger, being a cool mom, being a cool dad, being
a friend.
And then all of a sudden now you're like, oh man, my kids are getting into some bad
stuff.
Man, they're going down a really scary road.
I want to try to fix this.
It's like you should have been doing that way earlier in life.
And look, if you're in a situation now where obviously you can't go back in time, all you
could worry about is today and going forward.
But for those of us that have young kids, realize that now is the time that the most
effectiveness is going to be done by spanking them.
You know, like for me and for my kids, I don't feel like my kids are like some crazy, exceptionally well-behaved kids.
And quite honestly, sometimes I just want to pull my hair out, okay? I love them.
But sometimes I go to restaurants, like we went to the ranch steakhouse a few weeks ago,
and we had a couple came up to us and be like, wow, I could never imagine bringing my kids here.
I should they said like we should have done this more when we were younger we
should have brought our kids along and it's like you probably didn't because
you thought that they were gonna be terrorists and like our kids were sitting
there at a super nice restaurant being good being quiet here's the answer you
know what's your secret what's your advice spank them physical discipline
It's not, let's reason together, now child, let me explain to you, we're at a really
expensive restaurant.
And at expensive restaurants, there's a social expectation of quietness and peace.
And you see, people are spending a lot of money here that they had to work really hard
for, and so they want to make sure they could enjoy this nice evening.
Your two-year-old doesn't need that.
Your two-year-old's not going to understand that.
Your two-year-old needs a spanking on their bottom.
Why? Because no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous.
Spanking should be grievous.
Oh, it sounds terrible.
That's what the Bible's teaching.
And it should happen early.
It should happen soon in life.
Go to Proverbs 22, Proverbs chapter number 22.
You know, I see parents sometimes trying to reason with their little children and it's such an act of futility.
You know, we don't negotiate with terrorists, right?
Let's add that to our children as well.
There's no negotiating with a toddler.
There is obey right away with a good attitude.
Okay, that is the way that it should be.
Proverbs 22.
Verse 15,
What does that mean?
It means that they make stupid decisions.
They have bad judgment.
They have bad reasoning skills.
You cannot reason with them.
That comes through maturity.
That comes with time.
But children, all that foolishness is bound up in their heart.
And how do you get that foolishness to be driven away from them?
It's the rod of correction.
And look, this is not a metaphor.
This is a literal rod, a spanking instrument,
to apply physical discipline to your child.
That is how foolishness is bound,
or is driven away from their heart.
You know, we've all seen the kids at the grocery store.
Melting down, mommy, mommy, I want a candy.
And you see this poor woman just trying to reason, no, we can't get the candy, no, you're
going to spoil your dinner, no, we don't have the money for this.
It's like that kid needs to be spanked.
Stop talking, stop reasoning, drag that kid in the bathroom and give that kid a spanking.
And look, let me just say this, every single child in this church is foolish, including
And my kids at times are going to do stupid things, and they do.
But you know what I will do?
I will make sure to spank them.
And I do not expect your kids to be the exception to what the Bible says.
I expect all of your kids to be foolish.
I expect them to break the church rules.
But when my kids are spinning around on the floor doing circles,
I'm going to drag them into the bathroom and spank them.
And I expect you to do the same thing.
When I see children, when Pastor Anderson was coming and preaching for us,
standing on the kitchen counters in the kitchen and taking stuff out of the
cupboards and breaking our gate, by the way, when I see that stuff, I realize that
they're stupid and foolish because they're children, but my question is,
why are you not spanking them? Why are you not correcting them? That is what
should be happening. Foolishness is bound in the heart of the child. I get that.
But it's your job to make sure that you correct it when it happens.
And look, I'm not mad at these kids.
Okay? I'm mad at you, parents.
And I am going to make sure that I do my part in correcting my kids.
And if my kids are doing bad and I'm busy, I'm practicing music, I'm getting livestream set up,
I'm preparing for a sermon, whatever, please come tell me.
I'm not going to be able to see everything going on.
I'm busy at times.
But if my kids are doing something bad, tell me and I will fix it.
By the way, do not have this attitude in church.
where you're so offended when someone tells you that your kids are doing wrong.
I expect the ushers of this church to enforce the church rules.
That means that they have my permission to tell your children to get off the stage.
And if you have a problem with that, you can come talk to me,
but there are rules in this church that are going to be enforced.
And so don't get so upset when someone says, hey, get off the stage.
It's not the end of the world.
I'm going to tell my kids to get off the stage.
I expect the ushers to tell my kids to get off the stage.
I expect the ushers to tell my kids not to touch the piano,
not to be hanging out by the front door.
Look, these rules are in place for a reason.
There's some weirdos around here.
There's some sketchy people and dangerous people around here.
Don't just let your kids be by the front door.
God forbid we would ever have a kidnapping or something
like that happen in our church.
I mean, how would we move on from that?
How would we be able to sleep at night if one of our children in this church was snatched up by some freak out there?
You know, and I've told this story before.
Outsole winning at a family with Steadfast Baptist Church, when there was a weirdo creep kind of tailing them and following them outsole winning.
But the mom was doing a really good job being vigilant, watching them, keeping her kids close, and a few minutes later this guy was arrested for abducting a child at the same apartment complex.
But you know what? This predator that was trying to abduct a child,
he looked at the targets and he saw a mother being vigilant,
watching her children, keeping them close.
And what did he do? He went to the poor child that wasn't being watched by his parents.
And that poor child, thank God, was stopped by someone from getting kidnapped.
But what would have happened if no one was there to save that kid?
What would have happened if the police were there to arrest them?
Look, God forbid that would ever happen in our church.
So it's not like, oh, these rules are here just because I just want to be mean to the kids.
I just want to be mean to you.
No, I want to protect the children in this church.
I love your children.
I want them to be safe.
I want them to grow up in the house of God.
I want us to be able to freely serve God together.
You know, we don't have old people in the church right now,
but going forward, if we had elderly people in here
and kids are running around and spinning around on the floor,
how would you feel when they fall and break their hip?
Okay, so we're just we're keeping these rules in place to where they could just apply at all times in our ministry
At all times in the church whether we have old people pregnant ladies, you know, it doesn't matter ladies holding their baby
How would you like a lady to trip and fall and drop her baby and a baby die in our church?
You know these things happen in this world and we're gonna do everything that we can to make sure that doesn't happen here and here
All I could do is just tell you right all I could do is just correct issues when I see them
But it's gonna take some teamwork here. It's gonna take us working together doing these things
Go to Proverbs 19 Proverbs chapter 19
He says, chasing thy son while there is hope.
And let not thy soul spare for his crying.
Why is the child crying?
Because spankings should hurt.
Proper spankings should hurt.
And again, I talked about how spanking
should be age-appropriate.
The way that you spank a 10-month-old baby,
a 12-month-old baby, should be a lot different than the way
you would spank a six-year-old child.
But look.
Children that are not babies, they should be getting real spankings.
Toddlers should be getting real hard spankings that causes crying,
but the Bible saying, don't let your soul spare because of their crying.
They're crying, but realize that what you're doing is an act of love towards them.
This is an act that's going to help them, that's going to improve their character,
that's going to give them wisdom, that's going to drive that foolishness far from them,
and that's what we want for our children, right?
is they think, oh, I'm raising kids, I'm raising toddlers, I'm raising babies.
You need to get the attitude that you're not raising kids, you're raising adults.
You're not raising kids, you're raising adults. Okay? So you need to start giving your children
some expectations and disciplines that's going to carry over into their adult life.
Because kids that grow up on discipline, kids that grow up not spanked, they become adults.
And you know what happens to them? They're called people who have a rap sheet.
People who end up getting busted for a bunch of crimes,
people that end up fighting with the police, resisting the police.
And oftentimes, if you don't discipline your children, someone else will.
Someone else will.
If you don't teach your child to control his mouth,
he's going to mouth off to the wrong man someday,
and he's going to get his butt beat,
and someone else is going to discipline him for him.
If you don't teach him to respect authority,
To be respectful to authority someone else will teach him that someday. It's called the police department and
The police department does not love your child the way that you love them the way that your pastor loves them
The police is just obey or I'm gonna hurt you. That's what it is
Obey, and if you bring any lethal force to me, I'm going to kill you.
That's what the police are thinking, okay?
God forbid that would ever happen to our children.
God forbid that they would grow up and be the people that you see, you know, the NFL football
players that are fighting with cops on the street.
What is wrong with those people?
Well, it's that they were bad kids raised by bad parents who were not disciplined.
Go to Proverbs 20 verse 30.
Proverbs chapter 20 verse 30 look if they're crying before the spanking that's called a fit
And they should be spanked for that as well
But if they're crying after the spanking that should that should happen
That should be normal and I'll just be honest over the last 10 plus years that I've been in church when I've seen people
Discipline their kids. I think that the vast majority of people discipline too soft and discipline too light to where it's kind of a joke
You know, I don't know about how it is in the ladies bathroom, but I've heard in the men's bathroom
dude spanking their kids and it's like
It's like, what are you doing?
That's not a spanking.
And your kid looks at you, and he looks at you like this,
after you spank him.
That wasn't a hard enough spanking.
If kids are looking at you mean, after giving them a spanking,
you did not do hard enough spanking.
And you know what's funny is when I spank my kids, they cry, but what's funny is immediately
after they just want to hug me and come to me to be comforted and to seek my approval
and attention, and of course I give that to them freely, because it's not like I'm holding
a grudge against them or I'm so angry at them, I hate them, I love them, I don't want them
to continue to be foolish, I spank them, I make it hurt, I make them cry, and then I
hug them and love them and kiss them and our relationship is restored.
It's quick, it's easy.
That is the best way to discipline kids rather than the angry parent that's screaming all
day long at their children, that's pulling their hair out and just constantly yelling
and cussing at their kids or something like that.
That's probably more damaging to a child than getting a spanking, folks.
The spanking is quick, it hurts, it's over in 30 seconds, the pain is just gone.
God gave us that part of the body to receive correction.
It doesn't injure the child, it doesn't harm the child in any sort of permanent way.
It's totally safe, it's totally legal by the way,
and it's something that the Bible commands.
Proverbs 20 verse 30.
The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil, so do stripes, the inward parts of the belly.
Now, I think that this is more referring to a level of physical punishment higher than a spanking.
It's more talking about how adults also can get corporal punishment in the Bible.
We're not going to spend too much time on that this morning.
But the point I want to show you though is that physical punishment works.
Because people say, oh, it doesn't work.
Spankings don't work.
Physical punishment doesn't work.
The Bible says it works.
The Bible says the blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil.
So do stripes, the inward parts of the belly.
You know, it'd be better if in our country,
when someone steals something from a gas station,
rather than locking them up for a year,
rather than locking them up for six months,
if the government just took them up
and tied them to a post and just beat them,
and just whip them and cause them to have some stripes,
cause them to have some blueness, some bruising,
some, you know, some serious pain there,
that's actually going to change their heart.
They're like, oh man, you know, stealing a box of cereal from Walmart wasn't really
worth the whipping that I just received.
But it's like people go to jail and they get drugs in jail and they get prostitution in
jail and they get all the, they make new criminal connections in jail and they're out in six
months and they're a smarter criminal and they often are worse criminal at the end of
it.
The Bible doesn't teach the concept of some sort of permanent locking up, permanent jail.
The punishments are usually pay a fine, restore what you stole plus a certain amount, get
a beating or be put to death.
You know, if you're a murderer, first degree murder, if you're a rapist, if you're a kidnapper,
if you are a pedophile, you shouldn't even get the beating, you shouldn't get the fine
or anything like that, you should be killed by the government.
You should get capital punishment rather than corporal punishment on there.
Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.
So what God is about to say is good knowledge, it's good wisdom that he's about to say.
Verse 13, withhold not correction from the child.
Oh, that just means correction, that just means telling them that they're wrong.
Okay, let's keep reading.
He shall not die.
The Bible is saying, don't withhold something from your children.
What is it?
Correction.
Then the Bible defines what is that correction?
It's beating them with a rod.
Now the term rod in our modern vernacular, I think like a stick of rebar.
We're not talking about that.
That's not what the Bible is talking about here.
It's talking about some sort of a stick or some sort of a paddle or something like that.
That is the rod.
He shall not die, you know, so one immediate application of this is that if you're giving your child a proper spanking
It's never gonna kill them, right? If you give your kid a spanking, look, they're not gonna die
Anything that would endanger a child's life is way beyond what the Bible is prescribing. Okay, that's wrong
But you know a spanking even a spanking that hurts even a spanking that hurts really really bad and makes them cry
They're never gonna die from that. Okay
But also, it could be saving them from an early death in life.
If thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
Why? Because of some of the things like I was just talking about.
You beat him with the rod, you make him realize there's consequences to my decisions, right?
So, you don't grow up and be some idiot, some person who lacks understanding.
The Bible says he that commits adultery lacks understanding.
You know, that's a good way to get yourself killed.
is go sleep with another man's wife.
You might have some correction coming your way.
You might have some chastisement coming your way,
except it's not for the improvement of your moral character.
It's just out of the rage of a man.
You know, there's people who literally have been killed while committing adultery, you
know, or like I said with the police, they grow up, they think rules don't apply to me.
I can do whatever I want.
You know, I can go just go in 100 miles an hour on the freeway, no, you know, no consequences.
Next thing you know, you're going to pit maneuver with the police, you got a gun to your head
and you could die.
are not going to be so stupid when they grow up to do those type of things.
I mean, for us in this room who were chastised by their parents,
can you imagine the stupidity of these people that fight the police?
Like, I've never understood how stupid of an individual you have to be
to fight the police.
It's you versus the whole police department.
You know, it's you versus a hundred guns and helicopters and armored vehicles
and just why would you fight the police?
But people do it all the time they think oh no consequences have never been caught before I'm good and people die all the time
Because they don't just obey authority. You know that you would never get killed by police officers if you just do what they say
Right if you know if you complied with them when they say show me your hands
Do you know that you will never get shot by a police officer even if you're black?
Do you realize that cops are not just out shooting black people for no reason?
Like I'm sorry that CNN has lied to you and made you think that cops wake up in the morning.
They drink their cup of coffee and they're just like, man, I can't wait.
How many black people can I kill today?
Dude, if anything, they're afraid to respond to calls involving black people because they
don't want to be accused of being racist.
If anything, they're avoiding these neighborhoods and avoiding these calls and responding to
them very slowly because they don't want to have to shoot and kill a black person because
Most cops are just trying to do their job or just trying to get to their family at night.
They're not waking up in the morning hungry to kill a black person.
That's insane.
But unfortunately, let's just be honest about the black community.
How many of them are growing up without a father in their life?
And how many of them are growing up their whole life never being disciplined, never
being spanked, never being loved because it is a loving thing to spank your kids.
A child who is spanked and disciplined early and consistently and in a biblical manner
is a child that is very, very loved.
And you know it's such a hateful thing that the black community is doing to their children
by telling them white people hate you, white people are the problem, cops just want to
kill you as they sit there and have children out of wedlock.
Don't raise their kids and don't spank their kids.
Those are the ones that are harming their communities.
I'm not harming them by saying, hey, red, yellow, black,
and white, spank your children.
It doesn't matter what color you are.
Look, get married, have a child, stay with that spouse,
mom and dad raising them, with love, with nurture,
with spankings.
And you know what, a child in that situation
is probably not going to grow up to be a school shooter,
or to be a criminal, or to be a felon,
or to be a drug dealer.
Now, of course, there are exceptions.
Human beings have free will, right?
For human beings have free will, it is what it is,
but most children who grew up in that environment
are never going to end up being killed by the police.
Go to verse 14.
It says,
Thou shalt beat him with the rod
and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
So, not only is there a physical salvation talked about in this verse about being saved
from an early death, but being spanked and being disciplined as a child actually has
a direct connection to your likelihood of getting saved.
Why?
Because like what we've been talking about this whole morning, people who fear their
parents, they grow up, they likely fear God.
People who realize that there's boundaries and rules and when those rules are crossed
There's serious punishments for them are the same people that read for the wages of sin is death and they say oh wow
I deserve to go to hell. Oh wow. I've broken God's commandments
There is a real punishment coming and if I don't put my faith and trust in Jesus Christ to save me
I will go to hell and you know what that comes from it comes from being spanked at a young age
You know, there's never going to be a study done on this, but I guarantee you if there
was some sort of study where you polled people who were consistently spanked as children,
I guarantee you there's way more per capita of those people who are saved than people
who didn't get spanked as children.
Because the Bible says, Thou shalt beat them with the rod and shalt deliver his soul from
hell.
Proverbs 29.
Proverbs chapter 29.
And this is a act of wisdom that you're imparting to your children by spanking them.
Verse 15.
The rod in reproof, give wisdom!
But a child left to himself bring it his mother to shame so notice
Some people they only want to focus on the reproof right tell your kids you're wrong
Tell them no tell them to do better tell them to stop being terrorists
And then you have some people who just only bring the rod
But the Bible says to marry these things the rod and reproof brings wisdom right so us as parents
We don't want to spare in any of these things. We want to instruct our children verbally
We want to explain to them what they're doing wrong.
We want to teach them how to do things right.
And on top of that, give them spankings as well.
Right? We need both of these things in children's life.
Now, for the rest of the sermon,
I just want to answer some common questions
that people have about spanking.
Go to Ephesians chapter six.
Here's question number one.
What should I spank my kids for?
What should I spank my kids for? What is a spankable offense? Ephesians chapter 6 verse 1
The Bible says Ephesians 6 1 children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right
honor thy father and mother, which is the first commandment with promise
that it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
The Bible teaches for children to obey their parents' period end of story.
Now you got some preachers who want to preach and talk all about the exceptions to the rule.
And look, there are exceptions to the rule.
But you know what we should focus on is the rule.
Children, obey your parents.
Well, what if your parents are telling you to sin?
Okay, dummy.
Obviously, if your parents are telling you to sin,
you don't have to listen to that.
But guess what?
I've never had my parents ever tell me to sin.
And I would venture to guess that most people in this room have never had their parents to tell them to sin, right?
Theoretically, could it happen? Yes, it could happen. But what is the rule? Is children obey your parents?
So what should you spank your kids for? Whatever you want.
Why? Because you, as a parent, have real authority from God. And when you as a parent
make a rule for your child, God backs up your decision.
God agrees with you because He's given you authority to tell your children what to do.
Obviously, yes, the exception, outside of God's word, we get that, but that's not the normal,
that's not the situation we're talking about.
We're talking about in general, parents, you make rules for your kids, God backs that up.
And He gives every individual family its own autonomy.
Right? One family in this church could have one rule for their kids and another family could have a totally different rule and God backs up
Both of them as long as they're not sinful
God agrees with both of them and so you as a parent you have autonomy to decide to make rules and when children break those rules
Doesn't matter what it is. You should spank them
You know if you have a rule in your house that says do not wear your shoes in the house
Kids when you come in the house you put your shoes by the door then you come into the house. Does the Bible say?
Thou shalt take off your shoes before you enter your house.
No, but it says obey your parents.
And so if mom and dad tell you to take your shoes off,
God might as well be telling you, right?
And this is the view that you must have of authority.
God gives people real authority and real autonomy.
And when that authority is exercised,
it is as if God himself is telling you to do something.
That is how you should treat authority.
Go to Ecclesiastes chapter number eight, you know, so spank them for breaking your commandments
Spank them for breaking God's commandments, obviously, right?
When your children lie, they need to be spanked. When your children steal, they need to be spanked
You know, if you're if your children use the name of God in vain, they need to be spanked
Okay, and also when your children break the church rules, you should spank them
Ecclesiastes 8 verse 11 says because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully in them to do evil.
I would normally talk about this verse in the context of punishing adults and criminal justice system, but the principle is the same.
That when there's no punishment, when there's no correction for crossing lines, people get it in their heart, they're fully set in their heart to continue to sin.
You know, it's the same thing with kids.
If kids hear their parents say, you're not allowed to do this, stop doing this.
But then they do it and nothing ever happens.
What you're doing is you're enabling that child to be rebellious.
You are approving your child's rebellious behavior.
You may not be able to control all of your kid's behavior, but you can control what
you allow.
You can control what you instruct and what you allow and for that you are responsible.
And that's what we talked about with leadership in general, right?
As a pastor, and I go soul winning, and I say, go soul winning, and you don't go soul
winning.
Guess whose fault that is?
That's your fault.
Right?
If a husband is leading by example, and he tells his wife to do something, and she disobeys,
that's her fault.
Now, if a leader is not instructing...
Not enforcing rules not leading by example. That is their fault. Okay, so we want to make sure we're enforcing rules
Here's another question. Should I spank my kids in public? Now this I will say up front when I'm saying something's my opinion
I will tell you this is my opinion
My opinion is that you should be very discreet and careful with this area
Because there are wicked people out there that will falsely accuse you and I've seen it
I know many people personally that this has happened to
where someone will falsely accuse you of not just spanking your kids,
but they always lie oftentimes and escalate it saying,
you're abusing your kids, you're beating your kids, you're breaking your kids' bones, stuff like that.
Why? Because some people just hate God. They hate the Word of God.
They hate the idea of spanking. They think it's wrong. They think it's sinful.
So if they see someone do it, they could report you and you could have all these issues.
I'm not telling you what to do. You get to make that decision.
My opinion is at least to take them to the bathroom,
take them to the car, somewhere private.
Also, the goal with spanking is not to humiliate your child.
right? And it's one thing when they're super, super young, but as your kids get older, it's not
as loving to your kids to just try to publicly humiliate them and stuff like that. They are
getting a real spanking, it is going to hurt, they are going to cry, and I think it's best to do that
in a private place. I'm not saying only spanking the confines of your home, no they need to be
spanked when they need discipline, but you can at least try to find a private place and not
I'll go to Deuteronomy chapter 21, Deuteronomy chapter number 21.
Here's another question that people have, can I spank a teenager?
Can I spank a teenager?
Well I want to look at a verse here in Deuteronomy 21, Deuteronomy 21 verse 18, the Bible says
which will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother,
and that when they have chastened him, will not harken unto them.
Now, does this seem like it's the parent's fault or the child's fault?
It sounds like the child's fault to me.
Why?
Because he's not obeying the voice of his mother or father, so it sounds like mom and
dad is giving correction.
Mom and dad is giving instruction.
Mom and dad is doing the right thing there.
And he says, after when they have chastened him.
So chastening is referring to the physical aspect of discipline.
So these parents, they're instructing, they're chastening, but this child is still not listening.
This child is still disobeying his parents, then.
shall his father and his mother lay hold on him
and bring him out unto the elders of his city
and unto the gate of his place.
So this has to be such a severe situation
that the parents are correcting their spanking.
It's still not working.
They have to literally take their child to the authorities.
That's how bad of a situation that it has to be.
And they shall say unto the elders of his city,
notice how this son is described.
This, our son is stubborn and rebellious.
He will not obey our voice.
He is a glutton and a drunkard and all the men of his city shall stone him with stones
that he die.
So shout thou put away evil from among you and all Israel shall hear and fear.
I mean, this is a pretty intense situation in God's law where the Bible saying you have
Excuse me and rebellious son. He's not listening. He's being chastened. He's still being stubborn rebellious. He's a glutton
He's a drunkard. This doesn't sound like a five-year-old folks
This doesn't even sound like a nine-year-old a ten-year-old
This sounds like a teenager or young adult son
Yeah, old enough to be a drunkard and a complete bomb and a glutton and not obeying anything his parents are saying.
This is an extremely wicked person, but we're not talking about a little child here.
We're talking about an adult or a teenager.
And so to me, this just blows my mind.
This logic fail that I've heard recently.
I've heard recently preachers get up and say, if you spank a child.
past the age of 10, you're doing more harm to them than good.
And I've heard other preachers say like, it's just so crazy, the idea of spanking your kids, you should never spank your kids.
Okay, so help me understand this. It's like, you can spank a child.
The Bible says to spank them early.
The Bible says not to spare the rod, to be consistent, right?
To not let your soul spare for their crying. You're supposed to be getting serious spankings to children.
Okay? Then let's just skip teenagers for a while.
You have adults that obviously can be put to death for crimes in the Bible.
and can be given physical punishment for their crimes in the Bible.
Then you have children, teenagers, anyone who if they curse their mother and father
are supposed to be put to death, according to the word of God.
Then you have this person who is given the death penalty for being a stubborn and rebellious son
not hearkening to the voice of his father and mother being a drunkard and a glutton.
He actually gets the death penalty for that, but you can't spank a teenager.
So, somehow, like spanking and physical discipline is okay any age of life except being a teenager.
It's like you're in the city of refuge as a teenager.
It's your little safe space where you could just do whatever you want, whenever you want,
with no punishment.
And you know what?
These preachers are a bunch of liars and hypocrites because this is what I would like
to ask these preachers.
I would like to say, what would you do if your teenage son went up to his mother and
How would you react?
Now son, that's not the way that you should be speaking.
With your mother, please give me your Xbox controller
and your cellular device and you are grounded to your room.
You know what these guys would do?
If one of their sons walked up to their mom
and called them a B word,
they would get a serious beat down,
as they should.
As they should, any teenager that talks his way like that to his mom
should experience the wrath and fear of God,
and parents should put the absolute smackdown on that child
for speaking that way to his mother and father.
That's what I would do as a dad,
and if any of these preachers are honest with themselves,
that's what they would do as well.
But here's what they like to do.
Well, I mean, if you were just as perfect and godly as me.
If you were just as holy as I am as a man of God,
you would never have a child, teenager disobey
because I got them saved when they were young
and I instructed them to fear God and to fear their parents.
Well, it must be so nice to be as godly and wonderful as you.
But what about all the people in your congregation
dealing with real problems?
What about the parents whose teenagers are shooting up drugs and stealing people's cars
and going to Target and stealing from them and committing crimes.
But you know, it just must be so nice that you're so perfect.
I'm so happy that your family is so perfect.
But what about the people who didn't grow up as a Baptist like you?
What about the people who did wait until their kids are 10 years old to start disciplining?
What about the families who did get saved when their children were 10 years old or something like that?
What about those people? And look, it's such a stupid idea to always be preaching sermons in this idealistic
fantasy world. Okay, people are dealing with real things.
Real issues, of course we should strive for the ideal, of course you should know all of these principles that we're talking about before you ever even have your first child.
Wouldn't that be great if everyone knew how to raise children according to the Bible before they even pop out their first child, but guess what, that's not the reality of this world.
The reality is that some people's teenagers are calling their moms a b-word, or as I've
seen when I was a teenager, I saw one of my friends call his mom Satan, and I saw him
get the smackdown of his life, and I was like, yeah, look, why would you ever say that to
your mom?
Why would you ever say that, and his dad just smacked him down right in front of me, and
I was all about it.
I was like, yeah, I would never say that to my mom, because my dad would have killed
Okay, and look teenagers should still fear their parents and guess what?
You know, I don't have teenagers yet, but I guarantee you, I will still be stronger
than them when they're teenagers.
Dads, you better keep lifting, all right?
Don't let the dad bod get too bad because you might need to smack down a teenager someday,
and that might be what they need, okay?
This holier-than-thou attitude, I'm so much better than you.
I'm so much better than parents that have any teenagers that are having problems.
You know, get out of here with that holier-than-thou garbage.
and stop preaching your opinion as dogmatic doctrine.
Because guess what?
God's people, while they should be reading the Bible every day.
And I always stress that, and I hope you are.
But let me tell you something.
If you're not, you are so easily able to be manipulated.
It's not even funny.
Which is why I'm telling you read the Bible because I'm not trying to manipulate you
I'm trying to preach the truth, but I'm just telling you Christians that don't read the Bible
They just they hear their inner thoughts their personal worldly philosophies
Their carnal ideas that they've heard growing up and they hear a man of God get up and preach that and they say that must be right
That must be what the Bible says, but the question is where does the Bible say that you can't spake a teenager?
Where does the Bible say, oh, only in a child's youth is the only time you could ever spank them?
I'm sorry. Why is this story in the Bible then of a teenage or a young adult son being put to death for being a stubborn and rebellious
drunkard and glutton?
You know, that is your opinion. That is ridiculous bad preaching.
And also, I'm just
I am sick and tired of this idea that if you're a good leader, that means that your followers
are all going to be little robots that do everything perfectly.
I'm not a Calvinist.
I believe people have free will and your job as a leader, my job as a leader is to be a
good example and to instruct and to correct and to discipline.
But you know what?
The parents in this story, they did those things.
They were giving the instruction.
This child still was wicked, you know, this idea, this feminist idea of just like empowering rebellion of women and well, you know, you wouldn't have such a rebellious wife, you wouldn't have such a bad issue with your wife if you were just a godly husband, if you just did the dishes more, if you just paid for more nail excursions.
No, if the husband is commanding his wife what to do and he's being a good example and she rebels, she's a wicked feminist.
Okay? And yes, leaders need to take accountability and responsibility for their example, for their preaching, for their instruction, and for their discipline of issues.
But whether or not you decide to obey the Bible or you decide to obey the rules of the church, you know, I am not a puppet master. I cannot control your actions.
You cannot control your followers actions. Okay, so this is just a worldly philosophy
That's not taught in the Bible and is being preached as dogmatically as possible from preachers right now
And I want to warn you about it because we as Baptist need to make sure that the Bible is our final authority
That's why this is called
Biblical child discipline not first opinions chapter 2 biblical discipline not pastor Oz's personal opinion children
Discipline it's what does the Bible say?
Now, here's another question, okay?
What about abuse?
What about child abuse?
Now, let me just say the most obvious statement that I've ever said from behind this pulpit.
Anchor Baptist Church is 100% against child abuse.
I am against abusing children.
Do I need to make more obvious statements?
I am against taking advantage of old people and scamming old people.
I am against...
I'm going to make it really hard stand right now.
I am against things that are bad, and I'm for things that are good!
You know what this is called?
Virtue signaling.
Where I'm going to take some grandstand on something that literally everyone agrees with.
Folks, everyone agrees child discipline is bad.
I quit Anchor Baptist Church because they are covering up for child discipline.
I am against child discipline.
Are you happy?
What other obvious statements do you want me to say?
But what is child discipline is the question.
Now as Christians, our final authority should be what the Bible says.
Not our opinion, not our logic, not the laws of the land, but it just so happens
that the laws of the land here are pretty good when it comes to child discipline and child abuse.
So I just want to read for you some Oklahoma statutes, title 10a Children and Juvenile Code Oklahoma statutes regarding abuse.
It says
Abuse means harm or threatened harm to the health, safety or welfare of a child by a person responsible for the child's health, safety or welfare, including, but not limited to, non-accidental, physical or mental injury.
So, not talking about accidents, but purposefully, physically injuring or mentally injuring your child is child abuse according to the state of Oklahoma.
sexual abuse, absolutely that's child abuse, or sexual exploitation.
Pay attention to this. Provided, however, that nothing contained in the Oklahoma Children's Code
shall prohibit any parent from using ordinary force as a means of discipline, including, but not limited to,
spanking, switching, or paddling.
So, the state of Oklahoma is saying like, hey, we're going to talk about abuse, okay?
Here's what abuse means, purposely injuring your child, physically, mentally, sexually
abusing them, sexually exploiting them, but we're not talking about parents' right to
spank their kids, or switch their kids, or paddle their kids, and it's not even limited
to those three things, or not the Bible, the state code says, it's saying, like, not just
these things, it's not limited to those things, but it says spanking, switching, or paddling.
So, you are protected by state law.
to spank your children.
You can follow exactly what the Bible says
regards to this subject and have no legal problems.
And here's the truth.
Even if it was illegal in the state of Oklahoma,
we ought to obey God rather than men anyways.
This whole idea of like, well, you know,
would the police like it if they saw me spanking their kids?
I don't give a crap because I care what God told me to do.
And you need to stop thinking so worldly
and thinking so carnally and actually look at what the Bible says.
Then it defines what harm means.
Harm or threatened harm to the safety or health of a child means any real or threatened physical, mental, or emotional injury or damage to the body or mind that is not accidental,
including but not limited to sexual abuse, sexual exploitation, and neglect or dependency.
Sexual abuse includes
but is not limited to rape, incest, and lewd or indecent acts or proposals made to a child
as defined by law by a person responsible for the health, safety, or welfare of the child.
I agree with that. I'm glad that that's in the state code, that that is abusing a child,
to sexually abuse a child. Sexual exploitation includes but is not limited to allowing,
permitting, encouraging, or forcing a child to engage in prostitution. The Bible says
as defined by law, by any person 18 years of age or older,
or by a person responsible for the health safety
or welfare of a child,
or allowing, permitting, encouraging,
or engaging in the lewd, obscene, or pornographic,
as defined by law, photography, filming,
or depicting of a child in those acts.
Yeah, common sense.
This is horrific stuff.
People that do this stuff should be put to death.
Okay, that's disgusting, of course.
Then it defines more, it says heinous,
and shocking abuse includes but is not limited to aggravated physical abuse that results in
serious bodily mental or emotional injury. Serious bodily injury means injury that involves
a substantial risk of death, extreme physical pain, protracted disfigurement, a loss or impairment
an injury to an internal or external organ of the body,
a bone fracture, sexual abuse or sexual exploitation,
chronic abuse, but not limited to physical, emotional,
or sexual abuse or sexual exploitation,
which is repeated or continuing.
Torture, that includes, but is not limited to inflicting, participating in, or assisting
in inflicting intense physical or emotional pain upon a child repeatedly over a period
of time for the purpose of coercing or terrorizing a child, or for the purpose of satisfying
the craven, cruel, or prurient desires of the perpetrator or another person, or any other
similar aggravated circumstance.
I think the state of Oklahoma defines abuse pretty good, because none of those things
The rod to a child's backside, yes it hurts, yes it makes them cry,
it's not going to bring them anywhere near death,
it's not going to bring them anywhere near disfigurement
or losing a function of an organ or part of their body
or breaking their bones or torture or terrorizing them or anything like that.
These are not even close.
It is so laughable and stupid to say that spanking your child is abuse.
It's like you don't even know what abuse is.
And even in the Bible, when corporal punishment is used on, you know, servants,
it talks about how if you cause your servant's eye to be put out of him,
or you cause him to lose his tooth,
or you cause him to walk on a staff or something like that,
like you're supposed to let him go free, that's not okay, that's not right.
And look, spanking is not even close to that.
It's not even close to that.
You know, this idea of spanking your kids is abuse.
Whipping your kids is abuse.
Chastising your kids is abuse.
No, it's not.
It's biblical.
It's right.
It's loving.
The things that we just read, that's what abuse is, okay?
Now, let's look at some things that the Bible talks about abuse.
Judges chapter 19.
Judges chapter number 19.
Notice all these verses about spanking.
You know what the word I kept seeing come up was love?
Okay, not abuse.
That's not the word that was coming up, was love.
Correction, let's look at abuse.
Judges 19 verse 22.
Now as they were making their hearts merry,
behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial,
but set the house round about and beat at the door
and spake to the master of the house,
the old man saying, bring forth the man
that came into thine house that we may know him.
So, what do you have here?
You have these children of the devil, these reprobates beating around this house, desiring
to know carnally this man.
People are a bunch of sodomites, okay?
And the man of the house, the master of the house, went out unto them and said unto them,
Nay, my brethren, Nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly, seeing that this man has come into
my house, do not this folly.
Behold, here is my daughter, a maiden, and his concubine.
Them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you,
but unto this man do not so vile a thing.
But the man would not hearken to him, so the man took his concubine and brought her forth
unto them.
All the night until the morning and when the day began to spring they let her go and of course this abuse
Led to the death of this young woman
So what's abuse? Hey, being a sodomite is abuse. First of all, right?
These these bunch of faggots that want to surround the house and cause, you know,
the man to come out so that they can know him. These are abusers.
Sodomites are abusers. The people who are child abuse enablers are the people
wanting to give kids to sodomites that want to let sodomites adopt children.
Those are the child abuse enablers. But then they don't get what they want.
They're given this woman as just meat, which is sick and disgusting and wicked.
But they're just given this woman as meat, and what do they do?
They physically assault her, they sexually assault her, and abuse her all night long.
You know what?
Rape is abuse, my friends.
That's obvious, and even the state code is saying, like, yeah, that is abuse.
That's shocking.
That's heinous, that's disgusting, and that is how the Bible also uses that word.
Abuse is.
Abuse is things like torturing this woman, sexually assaulting that woman.
That's abuse.
Go to Deuteronomy chapter number eight.
You know, the Bible talks about abusers of themselves with mankind.
That's abusing.
That's not love, that's abuse.
Let's finish here in Deuteronomy chapter number eight.
Deuteronomy chapter number eight.
Verse five, the Bible says thou shalt also consider in thine heart that as a man chaseneth his son
So the Lord thy God chastiseth thee
We gotta realize that God's the perfect parent.
God the Father is the perfect Father.
He chastises His children.
He punishes His children.
He causes us to go through things
that sometimes we say,
man, this is grievous.
This isn't pleasant.
But you know what? It's for our benefit.
It's because He loves us.
And we should look at His example as a Father and say,
hey, we need to love our children,
not in word only.
Oh, I just love my kids so much.
Do you spank them?
Because if you don't, you don't love your kids.
at least not indeed you're not loving them because loving your kids would actually be spanking them
when they're young, spanking them consistently, spanking them hard enough to where it actually
makes an impact on them and a correction on them and giving them both the verbal correction
and the physical correction. Verse 6 says,
therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God to walk in his ways and to fear him.
What is the end goal of these things? It's to get us to fear God.
You say, man, I really don't like it when God spanks me.
Man, I really don't like it when God punishes me.
Well, it's very simple.
Keep his commandments and fear him,
and he's not going to be spanking you.
And kids, you say, man, I'm just so sick and tired
of my parents constantly spanking me.
Pastor Oz, I'm that toddler that gets spanked every day.
Obey your parents!
Obey your mother and father.
Fear your mother and father,
and guess what?
The spankings will slow down.
And yes, this idealistic world.
God willing, idealistically,
You've done such a great job as a parent.
You've spanked them very young.
You've spanked them consistently.
They've been in church their whole life.
God willing, children will arrive in their teen years
and need a lot less discipline than a child.
That's the goal, right?
Of course, that should be the case.
That should be the ideal,
but I'm not gonna get up here and preach my opinion.
and say there's something wrong with you if you would ever spank your teenager.
Oh, that's something bad, that's something you shouldn't do.
You're causing more harm than good.
I'm not going to tell you something like that unless I know it from the word of God.
And quite frankly, the Bible does not teach that.
We need to, as Christians, stick with what the Bible says,
even on a subject that's controversial amongst the world,
or Baptist, we need to believe the Bible.
Let's pray. Lord, thank you for this day and for our church.
Thank you for blessing us with children.
I do pray that you bless us with more, Lord.
And I pray that we'd be good stewards of our kids,
that we'd be good leaders for them,
that we would truly love them
and give them the nurture, care, and affection
that they need and deserve.
And that we'd also give them verbal correction
and instruction.
But of course, Lord, we also pray that parents in here
would not withhold the rod from their child.
that we would spank our kids appropriately and at an early age and consistently.
I pray that the generation of children growing up in this church
would grow up to be a great generation of Christians with a
big love in their hearts for you and the things of God. In Jesus' name we pray.
All right, for our last song, if you would,
take your hymnals at this time
and turn to hymn number 26.
Hallelujah for the cross.
Hymn number 26.
Now there's a lot going on with this hymn on the second sheet.
We're going to go ahead and sing the chorus once.
If you need to know where to go after we sing the first page, just skip down to the bottom
two lines.
It contains the whole chorus.
So after we sing the first, we'll go ahead and sing the bottom two lines, which contains
the chorus.
If you're confused with that, just follow my lead.
Hymn number 26 right on the first
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