Now the part of the chapter that I want to focus on is right at the beginning of Philippians 4, where Paul says,
I beseech Euodia and beseech Syntyche that they be of the same mind in the Lord, and I entreat the also true God, help those women
which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow laborers whose names are in the book of life.
Now, what I'd like to preach on tonight is this subject, the role of women in the church.
It's an important subject, and I love to preach doctrinal messages, and I feel like some of the basic teachings of the Bible are going out the window
due to the new wave of all the practical, relevant sermons, and the feel good, and the encouragement, and all this stuff.
We need the doctrines of the Bible to be clearly taught, and a lot of people are confused about what is the role of women in church.
And so I hopefully can clear that up for you tonight, and the Bible will clear it up, I'm sure.
Now, the first and the most important point in this message that I'd like to point out is in verse number 3 he says,
help those women which labored with me in the nursery. Is that what he says?
Help those women who labored with me cooking. Is that what he says?
Help those women who labored with me by vacuuming.
Help those women which labored with me by cleaning the building.
Help those women which labored with me in caring for the children.
No, he said help those women which labored with me in the Gospel.
You see, God has called every woman to be a preacher of the Gospel.
Now, I'm not talking about standing by the pulpit good night.
I'm not talking about when people call us asking for money, because they found our name in the phone book,
and they call us every Monday morning asking for help with their rent and money,
and they say, may I speak with the pastor if he or she is available,
which shows how much they know about our church.
That's not what I'm talking about.
But God is saying here that it's a woman's job to labor in the Gospel.
That's what the Bible teaches here.
Now, turn to Acts chapter 2, and we're going to see this very vividly from the Bible,
but I wanted to show you first of all that God is saying here that women are to labor,
not just doing the menial tasks of maybe cooking, cleaning, or helping out, babysitting, wiping down the windows,
setting up the chairs.
God said, no, I'm talking about laboring in the Gospel.
Now, look at Acts chapter 2. We're going to see this vividly portrayed.
Look at verse number 1.
Acts 2, 1, the Bible reads,
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come,
they were all with one accord in one place.
Now, whenever we see a pronoun in the Bible, we must find the end scene.
Who are the they?
Let's back up and find out. Look at Acts 1, 13.
Let's find out who the they were.
He says, and when they were come in,
that's talking about the 11 disciples that were at the Mount of Olives,
and they just watched Jesus ascend up into the clouds
like one day he's going to ascend down in the clouds again.
And it says, they were come in,
they went up into an upper room,
where both Peter and James and John and Andrew, Philip and Thomas,
Bartholomew and Matthew,
James, the son of Alpheus, and Simon, the eulogist,
and Judas, the brother of James.
That's the 11 disciples.
These all continued with one accord, in prayer and supplication,
with the women,
and Mary, the mother of Jesus,
and with his brother.
And in those days, Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples and said,
the number of names together were about, how many?
120.
So there's the they that we find in Acts chapter 2.
120 people.
What did that 120 people consist of?
The 11 disciples,
Jesus' physical brethren,
James, Simon, Judas, and Joseph,
his four half-brothers,
and the women,
and Mary, the mother of James,
and the mother of Jesus.
They were all there, women, men.
This made up the early church, the disciples.
These people that were in Jerusalem gathered together,
praying for God's power.
Now when we get to chapter 2, verse 1,
that's who the day is.
When the day of Pentecost,
and I'm not going to prove that further,
but he says,
when the day of Pentecost was fully come,
they were all with one accord in one place.
Look at verse 2.
And suddenly there came a sound from heaven
as of a rushing mighty wind,
and it filled all the house where they were sitting,
because they're in a house,
they're in a building.
It says,
And there appeared unto them clove and tongues like as a fire,
and it sat upon each of them,
and they were all,
now that's the men and the women,
right?
All filled with the Holy Ghost,
and began to speak with other tongues
as the Spirit gave them others.
And there were dwelling at Jerusalem
Jews, devout men out of every nation under heaven.
And when this was noised abroad,
the multitude came together and were confounded,
because then every man heard them speak in his own language.
Now here we see,
first they're in the house.
They're assembled together.
They're in one accord.
They're in one place.
The place is shaken where they're assembled.
There's a mighty rushing wind sound that comes through,
and they're all filled with the Holy Ghost.
What did they do when they were filled with the Holy Ghost?
They left the house,
and they went out and began preaching the Gospel
to the multitudes that were assembled
in Jerusalem for the day of Pentecost.
And it says that they were marveled
because they heard them speak.
Look at the end of verse 6.
Every man heard them speak in his own language.
So when they spoke with other tongues,
what did they do?
They spoke another language.
And people were amazed,
not that they didn't understand,
they were amazed that they did understand what was being said.
They looked down at survival.
They were all amazed and marveled,
saying to one another, verse 7,
Behold, are not all these which speak Galileans?
They're saying, look, I'm a Parthian.
I'm a Mede. I'm an Elamite.
I live in Mesopotamia. I'm from Cappadocia.
How can I hear what this Galilean is saying to me
in my own language?
Because he was speaking another language
that he didn't even know miraculously.
It was a miracle that took place in Acts 2.
Where God allowed people to speak in a language
that they didn't even understand or know.
And yet they were suddenly speaking Parthian.
And look down.
And by the way, these Charismatics are insane.
They all speak in tongues.
And the Bible never uses this phrase,
speaking in tongues.
Show it to me in the Bible. It's not there.
The Bible says speaking with other tongues
or speaking in an unknown tongue.
It doesn't say speaking in tongues.
Nowhere do we find that phrase right there.
And so anybody who uses that phrase, speaking in tongues,
it just shows that they're reading in NIV.
Because the NIV says speaking in tongues.
But the King James Bible does not.
And so here we see that they're speaking in other languages.
And these Charismatics, I wish I could just sit down with them
and just read this list here.
Parthians and Medes and Elamites, verse 9.
As well as the Mesopotamia and Judea and Cappadocia
and Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Cappellia,
and Egypt and parts of Libya, about Cyrena,
and strains of Rome, Jews and Phosphites,
the Creeks and the Ravens.
We do hear them speak in our tongues,
the wonderful works of God.
And just up earlier, it said in verse 6,
we heard them speak in his own language.
And then he said we hear them speak in our own tongue.
Guess what? Tongue means language.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand it.
And then he lists 18 languages just to let you know.
Hey, we're talking about real, bonafide, legitimate languages.
Hey, there are all kinds of languages in this world
that says in 1 Corinthians 14,
and none of them is without signification.
They all have meaning.
Does anybody speak Spanish?
In the room, put up your hand.
Nobody. Good night.
He won't admit it. He knows a little bit.
Hey, significar? You know what that word means?
What does it mean? Right?
Que significar?
Okay, what does it mean?
Hey, every language has signification.
He said every legitimate tongue,
according to 1 Corinthians 14, means something.
It's a language.
German, French, Spanish, Italian, Greek.
These are the languages of our day.
In this day, they have different languages,
because languages change over time,
and they go extinct, and new languages are created, and so forth.
And so we see here that they're speaking another language.
They heard them speak in their tongues the one force of God.
Now look at verse 16.
The Bible says,
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel,
and it shall come to pass in the last days, sayeth God,
I will pour out of my spirit upon all flesh,
and your sons, watch this,
and your daughters shall prophesy.
Doesn't that further illustrate what I'm saying
about the fact that we're not just talking about men here,
we're talking about men and women.
He says,
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams,
and on my servants and on my handmaids,
do you see that?
I will pour out in those days of my spirit,
and they shall prophesy.
So we have here 120 people, men and women,
and they're preaching the Word of God
to people from all over the world
who speak various different languages.
They're able to amazingly, miraculously,
speak a language that they have not studied.
They were Galileans their whole life.
People are able to understand the Gospel and be saved.
Now, if you go down in your Bible,
and I have a whole sermon on this.
It's called Soul-winning versus Evangelism,
and I went through Acts chapter 3,
and I don't want to do it for the sake of time
just because I have other things to preach out tonight,
but I went through and I proved that Peter
did not stand up and preach and have 3,000 people saved.
It's not true.
Now, you can say that all you want,
and I've heard it from the pulpit
about 500 times myself,
but it doesn't make it true.
Peter, it's very clear,
when Peter got up and preached his sermon,
it says that he was speaking to men
who had been born and raised in Judea.
I mean, he says it eight times in his sermon.
He says, you men of Judea.
He goes on and on eight different times.
He says, I'm speaking to you that are Judeans.
You're from Jerusalem.
This is where you've grown up.
Is that the same crowd that we're dealing with
early on in chapter 2?
No.
These people are from all nations under heaven
speaking all different languages,
and the truth of the matter is
that when the Bible says that 3,000 people
were saved and baptized,
there were probably more saved that didn't get baptized,
but the 3,000 that got saved and baptized,
that's a total from 120 people solely,
not just one man.
It wasn't just one man preached his sermon
and they all flooded down the aisle.
No.
That was just him preaching to the Jews.
There were 119 other people
speaking to all kinds of other people
from all kinds of other nations
and seeing all kinds of other people saved.
Hey, God doesn't just use one man to get up and preach
and just have people flood down the aisle.
Hey, God wants to use 120 people.
Not one, 120.
And by the way, faithful in Baptist church
is not one man standing up and preaching
and a bunch of people get saved.
That's never happened in the history of our church,
and I'm just going to tell you right now,
I hate to burst your bubble,
but it's never going to happen in the history of this church.
Oh, you don't have any faith.
I have faith in what the Bible teaches.
I don't have faith in what you think
is God's method for getting people saved.
And there's never going to come a day,
brace yourself,
when Steven Anderson stands behind the pulpit
and preaches the great sermon
and thousands of people get saved
or hundreds of people get saved.
It's not going to happen.
But I'm going to tell you something.
This church is going to see hundreds
and thousands of people saved
as long as I have the breath of blood,
as long as I'm alive and kicking,
as long as this church is still going on.
We're going to see thousands of people saved.
But the key word is we.
Not I, we.
We will see many people saved.
We need to be with one accord in one place.
We need to go out and preach the gospel.
And ladies, I'm talking to you.
I'm not just talking to the men.
Guess who had more people saved?
God so many this week?
The ladies.
Thank you for helping me with my soul winning illustration.
The ladies.
You see, the first thing I want you to know
about the role of women in the church
is soul winning.
A lot of women have this idea
that that's for the men.
Is that what the Bible teaches?
Is being filled with the Holy Spirit for men
or is it for men and women?
For men and women.
Is preaching the gospel for men only
or is it for men and women?
Is going out and seeing the lost saved just for men?
No, it's for men and women.
Who was it that labored with Paul in the gospel?
Women.
In Philippi.
Now, it was men also, of course.
But women had a part in this.
Look at Act 16.
I like to really go in depth on a subject
and really see all aspects.
And of course we can't see all aspects
but I'm going to do the best I can
to teach on the subject of the role of women in church.
Look at Act 16, verse 13.
You see, we live in a day
and you're not going to believe this
but it's true.
We live in a day
where women are being degraded around us
like the second class is.
Now, you didn't say,
oh man, we're just some kind of women's libber.
No, the women's lib is who's behind it.
I lied.
The women's libbers are the ones who are degrading women.
Why?
What could be more degrading than to say to a woman,
here, put on a pair of pants and dress like a man?
What are you trying to say?
Is there something wrong with being a woman?
Is there something wrong with dressing like a woman?
But our society wants to put women in men's clothing.
Why?
Because they don't have respect
for what it is to be a woman.
You understand what I'm saying here tonight?
And whenever a culture gets away from the Bible
and the things of God
they begin to degrade women.
You say, I don't know what you're talking about.
Well, if you don't know what I'm talking about,
why don't you go to the grocery store
and look at the magazine record
and tell me if our society exalts women
or degrades women?
I mean, do you think it's right that our society
has reduced women
to the only thing that matters about them
is their body?
That's very disrespectful, I think.
I think it's very disrespectful
to put women on display like that
for the eyes of lustful men.
Hey, why aren't the women's libbers up in arms
crying out and saying,
good night, stop degrading women.
Take down these billboards.
Take down these ads.
Take down these commercials that are suggestive.
But they don't care about that.
They don't really care about freedom
and liberating women.
They want to put women in bondage.
They want to dress women like a man
and send them off to work like a man.
Hey, that's not freedom.
That's bondage.
Women used to be free
when they used to have the opportunity
to run their house
and run their own affairs
and not be going to work
and having somebody tell them,
do this, do that all day,
like everybody.
When I'm at work,
somebody tells me,
do this, I do it,
do that, and it's not freedom.
And so women's libs is a joke,
but women are degraded and devalued.
They're told to act like men.
They're told to dress like men.
And girls sometimes are under pressure
as teenagers to,
if they want to be cool,
to pretend like they love sports.
You ever see these girls
who pretend like they love sports
because they want to be cool
and fit in?
Doesn't that irritate you?
I can tell by your face.
Yeah, it irritates me too.
It's like, look,
you don't like sports, okay?
Quit pretending like it.
Be a woman.
And you know, why not,
if you're a woman,
just be proud and say,
I'm a woman.
I'm going to act like a woman.
I'm going to dress like a woman.
I'm going to talk like a woman.
I'm proud to be a woman.
And you know what?
I'm proud to be a man tonight.
And it's time that some men
start being proud
that they're a man again
in this country
and quit getting their clothes
from Abercrombie and Fitch
and Urban Outfitter
and all these little sissified
queer little stores in the mall,
their little fashion statement,
their little tailored shirts
and their tight little jeans,
their little lowrider pants.
You know what I'm talking about.
Hey, real men don't dress that way.
Real men don't wear pants
that are so tight
that you can see every curve
of their body.
It's disgusting.
Real men don't wear tailored shirts.
Real men,
and let me break it to you,
real men don't care
what they look like.
You think I bought these clothes?
I didn't buy these.
My wife bought these clothes.
Who cares?
She told me,
how many Wednesday nights
have you been standing around
after church with us
and heard my wife say,
ah, your tie does not match your suit.
I mean,
she's told me that twice
in the last month.
You think I cared?
Because I did.
I'm like,
well, you shouldn't have
just bought everything
to wear to all matches
because I don't care.
You know,
this is the way I dress.
I just put on clothes.
I'm dressed.
Great.
You know,
and you want to know
the big fashion statement
I'm trying to make?
I'll sum it up in one word.
Man.
Well, I'm kind of going for
like a little post-modern
sort of stinky queer.
You know,
and a real man
doesn't know all these colors.
These are colors I know.
Blue.
Red.
If it's not in the
Crayola eight-pack,
I don't want to hear those.
Right?
I don't want to hear
about all this love
and all that.
Good night.
We've lost our manhood
in this country.
Hey,
men should be proud
to be men.
Act like a man.
Talk like a man.
Get a haircut like a man.
Dress like a man.
I'm trying to look
as much like a man
as I possibly can.
That's the only fashion
statement I'm trying
to make tonight.
And so,
if you're a woman,
be proud to be a woman.
Be feminine.
And don't listen
to a society
that makes it like
being a woman
is like something bad
or something.
Like being a homemaker.
Oh,
you're just a homemaker?
Is that all?
You mean you don't
have a career?
You mean you're not
like a lawyer
or a doctor?
Look,
I would have much more
respect for a woman
who's a wife and a mother
than if she's running
a Fortune 500 company.
Any day of the week.
And,
you know,
as a woman,
you ought to decide
you're not going to let
the world tell you
what being a woman is.
You're going to let
the Bible tell you
what being a woman is.
And being a woman
is about being feminine,
but you do have
a role in the church,
according to the Bible.
And your role is,
number one,
first and foremost,
the same role as my role.
Soul winning.
You see,
the greatest thing
that I do
every week
is not stand behind
the pulpit and preach it.
You see,
I'm not even the most,
I'm not even the MVP,
if you will,
of our church.
Okay,
you know what
the MVP is?
The person who wins
the most souls
in this church
is the MVP.
Now,
if that's me,
great.
Hey, great.
Try to pass me up.
Win more souls than I can.
Because you know what?
The most important person
in this church
is the person who's the soul winner.
And you know what?
That could be a child.
That could be a woman.
That could be a man.
It could be an old man
or a young man.
It could be the servants
or the handmaids.
Hey, it could be anybody.
And just because somebody
has a position
that says pastor,
hey, that's not
what makes them spiritual.
What makes you spiritual
is if you're bringing forth
much fruit
and out in the highways
and hedges,
compelling them to come in,
preaching the gospel
to every creature.
This is in the church
and it could be filled
by a woman or a man.
You see, in Christ,
there's neither male nor female,
it says in Galatians 3.28.
Now, it's not about,
you know,
men are not better than women.
They're not.
I mean,
if a woman is the greatest
soul winner in this church,
I'd take my hat off to her
and say,
you're the MVP.
Now, that being said,
that doesn't mean
that men and women
have the same role
in the church.
Okay?
I've used this illustration before.
Think about the dishwasher
and the washing machine.
Okay?
Now, which one's better?
Who thinks the dishwasher's better?
That's a stupid question.
Okay.
Who thinks the washing machine's better?
Okay.
It's a dumb question
because they both do
different things.
Right?
It's comparing apples
and oranges.
All right?
You can't really say
which one's better.
Okay?
But guess what?
They do different things,
basic.
Now, if I were to take
the dishes
and put them in the
washing machine,
and that, you know,
something like that
wouldn't be beyond
a guy like me.
No.
Something's wrong
with the dishwasher,
just use the washing machine.
I remember one time
we were moving,
and I did a load of dishes,
and I put them all
in the dishwasher,
and there was no dish powder.
And so I thought to myself,
hmm, how are we
going to fix this problem?
And I saw that there was
a bottle of palmolive,
you know,
the dishwashing liquid.
And I said to myself,
this will work.
But it's probably going
to take a while.
You know, what I didn't know,
what I didn't know
is that that palmolive
goes a real long way.
You fill the whole sink
with water,
you just put a few drops in,
and it gets all bubbly
and everything.
Well, I took that palmolive,
and I just kind of went,
I just kind of
shot it in there like that.
I closed it up,
and I had a couple
of young guys
helping me move.
They were teenage guys
like 12, 13 years old.
And I went ahead
and flung the switch,
turned it on.
We went on moving.
We came back in,
and the whole kitchen
was filled with bubbles
like over here.
And I'm not kidding.
And it was so hard
to get rid of all that palmolive.
I mean, we had to keep
running it just empty
just until it just
cycled all that soap through.
Okay, see,
it's not that the palmolive
is inferior to the dishwashing powder.
It's not that the dishwashing
powder is better.
But you know what?
When it comes to a dishwasher,
dishwashing powder
is the way to go.
Okay?
Palmolive works, yes,
but it's not worth it.
Okay.
So you could probably put clothes
in the dishwasher,
and they would probably
get clean to an extent.
Think about it.
Kind of line the socks up
in that top rack.
Kind of wrap a pair of pants
around the bottom.
It's going to get clean.
But is that really the best
application for your dishwasher?
No.
And is putting dishes
in the spin cycle
the best operation?
Probably not.
But you know,
if you put a bunch of forks
and spoons in the dishwasher,
they'll probably get
cleaned eventually.
I'm standing by them.
I don't care whether
you agree with that or not.
It's going to work
eventually.
But what I'm trying to say
is that just because things
have different roles
doesn't mean that one's
better than another.
But we live in a world
that is just bizarre.
I mean, it's just
the most bizarre world,
and they say this.
There's no difference
between men and women.
Like, hello?
You know, I remember
this when I was a little kid.
I was the difference
between boys and girls, okay?
But they still don't know.
They think they're the same
and everything.
The president
of an Ivy League school
says that, you know,
men are better at math
than women.
And, oh, man,
you know, it's a big outcry.
Who heard about that
in the news?
Huge outcry because he said
men are better at math
than women.
Guess what?
Let me break some things to you.
Did you know that men
can run faster than women?
Did you know that?
It's a fact.
Did you know that men
can jump higher than women?
It's a fact.
Did you know that men
are a little bit taller
than women, by and large?
Oh, man, you're a sexist,
you're a bigot.
No, it's the truth.
It's a fact.
They're different.
Better?
No.
Better at certain things?
Yes.
Are women better
at certain things?
You just heard a few
that women are better at math,
like picking clothes,
dishwashing.
Okay, well, look,
the point is that
they have different roles.
It's not a question
of who's better or worse.
It's a question of
what are their proper functions?
What are their proper roles?
We live in a...
I mean, I could go on and on
about how bizarre
the world that we live in is
and the way that they think
that no one's better
than anybody else.
We're all the same.
But then they teach evolution,
which says survival of the fittest.
I thought we're all equal.
How can anybody be more fit
or better?
It doesn't make any sense.
Of course, evolution's
a lie anyway.
But the point is,
and turn it to 1 Corinthians 14,
we're going to begin to see
some of the things
that God has,
the roles of women
in the church.
Are the roles of women
in the church the same
as roles of men?
Well, somewhat,
because they both have
the big role of soul women.
We saw that very clearly
in Acts chapter 2
and in Philippians chapter 4.
And so, ladies,
don't think you're off the hook.
Like, oh, man,
that's my husband's job.
That's the men in the church.
They're going to win the souls.
No, no, no.
I thank God
that our church
doesn't have that attitude
because you know what?
If our church had that attitude,
that number in the bulletin
of how many souls
have been saved this year
would be a lot lower.
Because a lot of those souls
were won by ladies
in this church.
Isn't that the truth?
A lot of them were.
I mean, a lot of them
were won by men.
By men, I'm sorry.
When?
That's like when you're
half man, half woman.
Anyway, a lot of them
were won by men,
but a huge number of them
were won by ladies.
Anybody who's in this church
knows that the ladies
in this church
go soullen.
And thank God that they do.
And thank God
that they're not just
hiding behind their gender
and saying,
well, it's not my job.
I'm just going to let
the world go to hell.
No, they know
what the Bible says.
To be out there
to preach the gospel
to every creature
is not a command
for a certain gender
or a certain age,
but it's for man, woman,
boy, and girl
to be a soul winner.
For old, young,
male, female,
hey, God expects
all to win souls.
But look at 1 Corinthians 14.
The Bible reads in verse 34.
Let your women
keep silence in the churches,
for it is not
permitted unto them
to speak,
but they are commanded
to be under obedience
as also saith the law.
And if they will
learn anything,
let them ask
for it is a shame
for women
to speak
in the church.
Now, a lot of people
in our day,
and I can't understand
why they would want
to do this,
and turn to
1 Timothy chapter 2.
You don't have to
keep your finger there,
but just remember
what it said
in verse 24.
Look at 1 Timothy 2.
A lot of people
in our day,
they get up
and they just explain away
things in the Bible.
And you know,
I can't understand
why anybody would
want to explain
something away.
And I've heard
preachers get up and say,
well, it says here
that women are supposed
to keep silence
in the churches,
but, you know,
come on, that's silly.
What are they supposed
to do, walk in
and not say a word?
Somebody comes up to them
and says hi,
and they're just like,
ugh, ugh.
Ugh.
Well, this is why
that's dumb.
Because let's say
that that were what that meant.
Then they should
obey that,
if that's what it meant.
Because if it's
what the Bible says,
don't make fun of it,
just do it.
But look,
that's not what it means
because number one
is the church,
the building.
No.
The church is not
the building.
The church is
the congregation.
So this is talking
about when people
are congregating,
not when they
enter a building,
but when the
congregation is meeting.
Not only that,
but let the woman
learn in silence
with all subjection.
Now, do you remember
how in 1 Corinthians 14,
it said that they are
commanded to be
under obedience?
It's not permitted
under them to speak,
but they are commanded
to be under obedience?
Look what it says here.
It says let the woman
learn in silence
with all subjection.
It's the same thing.
He's saying that
they're to learn
in silence.
So we're not saying
that they can't
sing the songs.
We're not saying
that they can't
sing out the songs
or even say something
if we are having
a conversation
during the announcements.
But what we're saying
is that when
it's preaching time,
when it's learning time,
it's time for women
to be in silence.
Now, many churches
permit women
to say amen.
I don't agree with that
because I think
that women
are to learn in silence.
Now, the same term
amen,
you're expressing
I agree with you.
I stand where you stand.
Look,
I'm saying
that women
are to learn
in silence.
I stand where you stand.
Look,
we don't believe
that women
expressing their opinion
during the preaching,
during the learning,
it's time for them
to be in silence.
I didn't write the Bible.
That's what it says.
And so I don't believe
that women
should say amen.
I don't believe
that women should raise
their hand
and ask a question.
I don't even want
men to raise their hands.
But I'd be
far more likely
if a man
raised his hand
and asked a question
to answer it
than a woman.
Because women
are supposed to learn
in silence in the church.
And you say,
well, why?
Now, first of all,
it doesn't matter why.
That's what it says.
So that's what we believe.
Why doesn't matter.
But, you know,
the answer is
that God doesn't want it.
God wants them
to be in subjection.
And one of the ways
that he says
I want men
to be in authority,
he says because men
are to be in authority
and to be running church,
he said one of the ways
I'm going to accomplish that
is by having them
not preaching,
not teaching,
and not participating
in a dialogue
with the preacher
in the Bible.
He says the way
that I'm going
to accomplish that
is by the pulpit
is going to be
preached by a man.
Now, we're in
1 Timothy 2,
back up to verse 8.
So let's not,
you know,
when somebody explains
the way the Bible
and laughs about it,
you know,
there's nothing funny
about that.
I mean, really,
they need to face
what the Bible says.
Maybe they need
to study a little more
and learn what
the word church means,
congregation,
and understand what
it means to learn
in silence.
God didn't write this
for no reason.
He wrote it to be awake.
And so the Bible says
in verse 8,
I will, therefore,
that men pray everywhere,
lifting up holy hands
without wrath and doubting,
in like manner also
that women
adorn themselves
in modest apparel,
with shamefacedness
and sobriety,
not with broided air,
or gold,
or pearls,
or costly array,
but which becometh
women professing
godliness
with good works.
Now,
keep your finger there
and turn over
to 1 Peter chapter 3.
Your fingers in 1 Timothy 2,
turn to 1 Peter chapter 3.
And we're going to look
at another passage
that's similar to this.
The Bible reads
in 1 Peter chapter 3.
It says,
Likewise ye wives,
verse 1,
be in subjection
to your own husband.
So we're talking
about authority here.
That if any
obey not the word,
that means
they hear God's word preach.
They hear the Bible
preach.
They hear the Bible
preach.
They hear the Bible
preach.
They hear the Bible
preach.
They hear the Bible
preach.
They hear the Bible
preach.
They hear the Bible
preach,
and they don't
believe it.
It says,
They also may,
without the word,
be won by the
conversation of the
wives,
while they behold
your chaste
conversation,
coupled with fear,
whose adorning,
let it not be
that outward adorning
of plating the
hair,
and of wearing
the gold,
or of putting
on the peril,
but let it be
the hidden man
of the heart,
and that which
is not corruptible,
is not.
Many people
try to explain
this away as well,
and they'll say,
Well, hey,
it says there
that women
should not put on
apparel.
What are they
supposed to do?
Not wear any
clothes?
Again,
mocking and
explaining way
of the Bible
is not going
to help us
understand the Bible.
Yeah,
I mean,
come on.
So then they
just want to
throw out the
whole passage.
So forget what
I'm saying.
Forget all that,
because,
come on,
I can't really
mean that,
because it says
that they can't put
on clothes.
Look,
study the word
apparel.
The word
apparel is
talking about
nice clothing
all throughout
the Bible,
and that's
why Paul said,
look back,
flip your finger
back to
1 Peter 2,
notice he says
that women
adorn themselves,
yes,
in modest
manner,
that women
should not
go out and
put on super
expensive,
fancy clothing.
They shouldn't
be,
you know,
add so much
jewelry,
they're like
Mr. T,
and they
shouldn't be
decorated like
a Christmas
tree,
and they
shouldn't be
all flashy
and sequins
all over,
and look
like they're
from Las Vegas
or something.
That's not
the way women
should be adored.
They should be
adored in modest
apparel.
Now what does
modest mean?
Now people
sometimes take words
and they make
them mean
whatever they
want from me.
Most people
will just think
that modest
means that
you're not
sleazy or
promiscuous
or showing
your nakedness.
That's not
really what
modest means,
though.
If I said
I live in a
modest house,
I live on
a modest
income.
Now the
truth of the matter
is we know
what modest
means,
and if I
said,
well,
I would
tell you
how great
a basketball
player I am,
but modesty
forbids.
What does
that mean?
Modesty
is drawing
attention to
yourself saying
look how
good I am.
Look how
great I am.
So when the
game
starts,
you're
going to
see the
most
gold,
silver,
sequins,
you know,
ring on
every finger,
tan earrings
in your ears,
and all
these necklaces
and every
time you
turn it's
like a
hologram,
your
outfit.
And this is
the kind of
stuff that
they're
selling for
clothing these
days.
You know,
I went in
there and
I was going
where no
man had
gotten
the poor.
I was
looking at
skirts and
tops and
someone
looked like
a space
alien.
I'm serious,
it looked
like a
sci-fi movie.
And I wasn't
at Wet Seal
or something
or 579,
I was at
Kohl's,
department store,
which you
know,
and all this
stuff,
it's not modest.
It's saying,
hey look at me.
And by the way,
when you wear
a short skirt,
you say,
well is it
okay to wear
a short skirt?
No,
because guess what,
the Bible says
if you expose
your thighs
that's your
nakedness.
So there's a lot
about the
Bible about
being naked,
okay?
And are you
drawing attention
to yourself
with the
Bible?
Because you
worry so much
about decorating
yourself,
what you ought
to be decorating
is your inward
man,
it says in
verse number,
in 1 Peter 3,
it says,
verse 4,
let it be
the hidden man
of the heart.
He's saying
it should be
the inside.
And again,
our society
tells you ladies,
your outside
is all that
you have to
offer.
So just put
it on display
that decorates
her body
and dresses
promiscuously
and like
a Gucci mama
and dresses
in these
kind of scandalous
clothing.
You know
what she's saying?
All I'm worth
is what this
is all I'm worth.
I don't have
a personality
to offer you.
I don't have
anything interesting
to talk about.
I don't have
any knowledge.
I don't have
any good quality.
I don't know
how to cook.
I don't have
any spiritual
knowledge.
I'm just gonna
show it to you
right now.
What a sad thing
ladies.
If you have
to show off
your body
it's the only way
that you can
attract the guy
that you're looking for.
Have some
respect for yourself.
Have some dignity
to say no
I'm not gonna
put my body
on display
because I'm
not just a body.
I'm a soul
and a spirit
and a mind.
And you
ought to be
looking for
the kind of guy
with a lack
of respect
for yourself
to dress
immodestly
ladies.
Whether that
be promiscuously
whether that
be showing
your nakedness
or whether
that be
just being
flashy and
trying to
put it
making your
hair pink
and green
is not
modest.
Now if
God said
not with
broided hair
or gold
or pearls
are constantly
accessible
it's the same thing
it's just
look at me
Is that
all you have
to offer
is what
we can look at?
You know
I would hope
that women
have more
to offer
than just
what there is
to look at.
And you know
the right
kind of guy
he's not
just looking
for somebody
to look at
the rest
of his life
he's looking
Come and get me, wrong guy.
Come and get me, unbelievers.
Come get me, wicked guy who just wants to date me for years and then dump me.
And doesn't want to marry me, doesn't want to have kids with me.
He just wants to use me and abuse me.
Come on, come here I am.
Hey everybody, here I am.
Hey, is that the message that you want to send me? No.
And if you're married, you ought to be doubly modest because you shouldn't be trying to attract anybody.
Because you're already married.
I wonder when married women dress in a promiscuous way, who it is they're trying to impress.
What kind of wickedness is in the heart of the married woman who would dress herself sleazily and go off into public.
Who's she trying to impress?
There's something wicked going on in that heart that wants to be lusted after by a strange man and not by a man.
It's wicked.
And young girls, you don't want to attract the wrong kind of guy.
You don't want to devalue yourself.
I see a girl who's dressed promiscuously, you know what I think?
There's a girl who does not respect herself.
Or maybe she just doesn't have anything to offer.
Maybe she's just as shallow as a Frisbee.
And that's why she has to dress that way because that's all she has going for her.
Now what I'm preaching to you tonight is the truth.
The Bible says you've got to work on a hidden man, not on the outside.
Because the outside is not what it's all about.
Now, what are the women's roles in the church?
Number one, solely.
What is not the women's role in the church?
Standing up and speaking God's word.
Standing up and speaking during the preaching.
Giving her opinion of the preaching.
But, no, learn in silence.
Don't tell me amen because I don't need your approval, ladies.
Now, man, you want to give me your approval?
You want to say amen?
Hey, I'll take it right now.
Everybody, who's in the service?
Yeah, all right, yeah!
Just kidding.
But, in verse 72, let's go back there.
We're done with 1 Peter 3.
Actually, while you're turning, I'll finish reading what else 1 Peter 3 says.
It says,
For after this manner and old time,
The holy women also, who trusted in God,
Adored themselves, being in subjection under their own husbands,
Even as Sarah obeyed Abraham.
Did you hear that?
Calling him Lord.
See, she knew that he was the boss.
That's what the Lord means.
She wasn't calling him God.
It's L, lowercase, Lord.
It's talking about the boss.
And you say, well, that's a little weird.
If you read Genesis chapter 18, this is where she calls him Lord.
And she says, how am I going to have a child?
I'm old.
And she said, my Lord is old also.
She said, my Lord is old.
And she's talking about her husband.
There's a woman who knew who the boss was.
And it's always funny to me how a preacher pointed this out to me.
How Lot, when the two angels come to him in Genesis 19,
Lot runs into the kitchen, puts on an apron, and cooks him a meal.
But when the two angels come to Abraham,
Abraham tells Sarah, go in the kitchen and make a meal for these guys.
So both Abraham and Lot both had the same visitors.
Really, the same day.
And one of them just said, honey, would you go cook?
The other one's like, she's not going to listen to anything I say anyway,
so I can just put on the apron and cook myself.
He cooked unleavened bread because he didn't even know how to, you know, Lot.
Why did he make up unleavened bread?
They didn't want a cracker, okay.
But he made up unleavened bread because he doesn't even know how to cook.
He's a man.
He doesn't know how to put, I don't know, a leaven?
What is a leaven?
Is it kind of little packets?
Is it in a jar?
What is it?
Keep silent.
Good job.
You passed the test.
Yes.
Honey, I'm proud of you.
This is great.
But anyway, what's leaven?
What's leaven?
I don't know.
Neither did Lot.
But the difference between me and Lot is that my wife cooks and I don't.
And Lot, he had to go run and just throw in a hungry man or whatever for these guys
because he didn't know how to cook.
But he couldn't ask his wife.
His wife didn't listen to him at all.
He told his wife not to look back.
She looked back and turned into a pillar of salt.
And she became the example in one of the shortest verses in the Bible.
What's the shortest verse in the Bible?
Jesus wept.
What's the second shortest verse in the Bible?
Rejoice evermore.
What's the third shortest verse in the Bible?
Pray without cease to.
Remember Lot's wife.
Pretty sure.
Adam said Enoch.
That's pretty sure.
First Chronicles of World War.
And so, hey, remember Lot's wife.
She went down in history as being a bibleer of the wrong example of Lot's wife.
She didn't obey.
Sarah obeyed.
Great wife in the Bible.
Boy, you want to learn how to be a great wife?
You just got to be Sarah.
Except don't give your hand.
I was going to say this straight.
But the Bible says, likewise ye husbands dwell with them according to the knowledge,
giving honor unto the wife as unto the weaker vessel.
Oh, man.
Can you believe that?
The Bible calls a wife the weaker vessel with that sand?
As unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that
your prayers be not hindered.
Now, look back at 1 Timothy 2 and we'll finish this.
It says here, you know, and like men are also persigned that women adorn themselves
in modest peril with shame-facedness and sobriety.
And you know, the word shame, do a study on this.
You'll find about ten times in the Bible the word shame and nakedness are put side
by side.
Shame-facedness means you're not just exposing yourself to the world, okay?
So it says shame-facedness and sobriety, not with broiled air, gold, and pearls
across the array, but which becometh women professing godliness with good works.
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection, but I suffer not a woman to teach,
nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
For Adam was first formed, then he.
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Now, the Bible says in another place, I forget the exact term, it says the woman,
the man was not made for the woman, but the woman for the man.
Okay?
God originally made man the God of Eden, Adam.
And then he said, it's not good for the man to be alone.
I will make him a help meet for him.
Meet means suitable or fitting him.
He looked around the animals, he said, none of these is the right helper or companion
for Adam.
And so he said, I will make him a help that's meet for him.
And so he created Eve for Adam.
You see, women are not to, according to the Bible, just to go out and just be doing
their own thing, having their own agenda.
My wife, it's like, my wife, what she does, good night.
She's the one who decided to move to Phoenix.
This church was her idea.
I'm just hanging on tight.
Wrong.
Whose idea do you think it was to come here?
Me.
Whose idea was to start the church?
Me.
Who's the boss?
Me.
Oh, man, I can't believe you say that.
Look, somebody's got to make decisions.
Am I better than my wife?
No.
That's not the point.
My wife and I have different roles.
My wife has a role of being at home, raising the children, keeping the house.
My role is to go out and take orders from other people, work and make the money and
make the decisions.
These are the roles of men and women in the Bible, and her job is to help me, not
vice versa.
Now, do I ever help my wife?
Sure.
Do I do a little laundry every once in a while?
Sure.
Do I ever cook anything occasionally?
Do I help her around the house?
Sure, I do.
But is that my purpose in life, to help my wife?
That's what it's all about, folks.
God put me on this earth to help my wife around the house.
No.
But did God put her on this earth to help me?
You better know if she did.
You better know he did.
And so he says here, Adam was first formed.
Then Adam was not deceived.
The woman being deceived was in the transgression.
You say, why is that so important?
Why is God bringing that up?
I mean, why is God bringing up the fact that Adam was not deceived, but the woman
being deceived was in the transgression?
Why bring that up?
Well, the reason that we bring that up is because in Genesis chapter 3, right after
Adam and Eve sinned, God passed a judgment on Eve because she was the one that was
deceived and that gave the fruit to Adam.
And she said this, unto the woman he said in Genesis 3, 16,
I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception.
In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children, and thy desire shall be thy husband,
and he shall rule over me.
That was part of the judgment of God on Eve.
What was the judgment of God on Adam?
The judgment of God on Adam was that the earth would bring forth thorns and brides
and that he would have to work by the sweat of his face.
You see what's on my face right now?
Sweating.
Because I live in Arizona.
And my destiny as a man is to work by the sweat of my face for the rest of my life.
I mean, for the rest of my life, six days a week,
I'm going to be out sweating and working.
And what is the curse of God on women?
Because of sin?
They will live in subjection to their husband the rest of their life.
And they will have sorrow and pain in childbirth.
These are the curses of God on mankind.
Now, it's nothing terrible.
It's nothing horrible.
I mean, I enjoy work.
I want to go out and work.
But you know what?
Originally, Adam did not work by the sweat of his face.
He cut his fingers and worked his fingers to the bone, pulling thorns and weeds.
He just had a garden that grew without thorns.
And it was an easy job.
I don't know of anybody that does a job that makes any kind of money, that is.
I mean, you've got to work hard.
You've got to work by the sweat of your face to make any money.
And so that's men and women.
This is reality.
Now, this verse in 1 Timothy 2 says,
I suffer not a woman to teach.
So does God want women teaching the Bible?
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
And this is something that is not followed by independent baptism.
They don't follow the rule.
I mean, they will pull women in positions of teaching.
I went to Bible college.
And guess what?
I had women teachers in Bible college.
And they were teaching me English.
And they were teaching me speech class and English and all these different things.
And they'd stand up.
And they'd get out the Bible and give a little sermon for five minutes at the end of every class.
They'd open the Bible.
They'd turn to a verse.
And they would preach.
And one time, because this is how obnoxious I am,
one time I was sitting in class.
And this woman teacher is standing up.
And she's giving us little thoughts from the Bible.
You know, it's just like a little devotion.
It's not teaching the Bible.
It's not preaching.
It's just a devotion.
Hey, look, if it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck.
So as she stands up, she's giving her a little devotion.
And I'm sitting in the back.
I just started yelling, Amen.
I was like, Amen!
That's good!
Come on!
Preach!
And she didn't like that at all.
And other kids started doing it.
They thought it was funny.
Kids.
I say kids.
Of course, we're all adult men.
Of course, I was like 23 at the time.
Or 24, or however old I was.
But I felt like a kid.
I sit in this classroom having this woman preach to me.
And a lot of people say, well, women can preach to men until they're 18.
And then magically, they can't anymore.
But when they're 17, it's fine.
That reminds me of abortion.
It's not a lie, but then it's born, and boom, it's alive.
I guess at 18, you're a man.
I seem to remember this term in the Bible, man-child.
You remember that term?
Who's heard that in the Bible?
And it seems like it was called a man-child when it was born.
Hey, I was born a man.
I didn't become a man when I turned 8.
I was born a man.
I was born a man, and so I don't think that men should be taught by women.
In fact, I don't believe that women should even be preached to
and taught in a setting like this by other women.
I don't believe that.
And you say, well, it just says that they can't teach men.
Well, no, it says I said we're not a woman to teach, comma,
nor do you serve authority over the man.
Two statements.
And they'll have these ladies' conferences
where women will get up and preach to all ladies.
They'll fill the auditorium with ladies, and women get up and preach.
And women are saying they're men and everything.
It's weird.
I don't like it.
So it must be wrong.
No, I'm just kidding.
But the point is that, hey, Paul said,
I don't need a woman to teach the Bible.
And you say, well, there's just certain issues
that women can teach better.
You know, it's just women around.
I don't believe that for one second.
Because you know what?
I'm a preacher, and I preach every word in the book.
And if it's not in the book, then why are people coming to church
listening to a woman preach about it?
It's not in the book.
And if it's in the Bible, I'm going to stand up and preach about it.
To men, women, boys, it doesn't matter to you.
But you know what?
And let me tell you something.
Beware.
Listen to me now.
I'm not making a blanket statement about everybody.
Beware of the ladies' conference.
Are you listening to me?
Beware of the ladies' conference where women get up to teach
and only women are in the room.
There's a reason why they only want women to come
and why they put a woman behind the pulpit.
Because you know what they talk about?
Smut.
S-M-U-T, smut.
Are you listening?
Oh, you don't know what I'm talking about?
Good.
Thank God.
But you know what?
You know what they talk about?
They talk about the same thing that Cosmopolitan Magazine talks about
and Glamour Magazine talks about.
Except they put the label of Christian on it
and suddenly it's okay for somebody to get up
and teach people about the bedroom.
I'm sorry, my friend, but it is not right
for I don't care if people are married or unmarried,
it is not right for people to talk about what goes on in their bedroom
and outside of their bedroom.
Somebody say amen.
It's wrong when a woman gets up and says,
this is what goes on in my bedroom.
Filthy.
It's called, I got a word for it, pornography.
Pornography.
You know what pornography means?
Writing about that subject.
You say, well, it's pictures.
No, it's not.
That word pornography has been around for hundreds of years
and cameras weren't even invented.
Anybody who knows the English language,
anybody who knows history,
knows that pornography is in word,
not just in picture.
And you know, these women want to get up
and talk to an all-woman audience
about what goes on in the bedroom.
It's wicked, it's vile, it's sinful,
it's pornographic, it's perverted, it's wicked.
And you know what?
That's not popular preaching right now,
but you know what?
Ask me if I care.
And then men will do the same thing.
You want to get together with a bunch of men
and talk about my bedroom?
No, that's between me and my wife.
And it ought to be between you and your wife, man.
I'm not going to go to Promise Creepers
and get together with a bunch of men
and talk about the bedroom.
It's creepy.
That's why it's called Promise Creepers.
Maybe I read the sticker wrong.
I don't know.
But hey, it's creepy and weird.
And I'm going to tell you something.
We live in a day where the things
that once would have been unheard of,
people would think,
no way, it'll never happen.
Things that even the world rejected 30 to 40 years ago,
they rejected this kind of frank discussion
about what goes on in the bedroom.
Now it's come to an independent,
fundamental Baptist ladies' conference near you.
Rejected.
Stand up against you.
Cry out.
Spare not.
It's wrong.
And so no, I don't think that a woman
needs to get up and preach the Bible.
There's no need for it.
Men are ordained by God
to preach the Gospel and the Bible
and whatever needs to be preached behind the pulpit.
And you say, do you believe in women preachers?
Yes, I do.
Out on soul wedding.
You believe in women prophets?
Yes, I do.
Meet me out on soul wedding.
Now, turn to Titus chapter 2.
And look at Revelation 2, actually.
You got 1 Timothy chapter 2, Revelation chapter 2,
Titus chapter 2, Genesis chapter 2.
It's all about the same thing.
Look at Revelation 2 and look at verse number 18.
Now, this is a totally different subject
and this is a little bit different,
but you can't help, come on, my friend,
you can't help but notice the exact wording
between Revelation 2 and 1 Timothy 2.
Let's look at it together.
It says, then the angel of the church of Thyatira
these things saith the Son of God
who hath his eyes likened to a flame of fire
and his feet are like fine grass.
I know thy works in charity and service and faith
and thy patience and thy works
and the last to be more than the first.
And by the way, I'm not saying every ladies' conference
does that, but you know, just everyone
that I've ever heard about received an advertisement before.
And I'm not saying that there couldn't be
a righteous ladies' conference.
And I still don't agree with it.
I still don't think the women should be standing
and preaching, but at the same time,
I'm not saying that they all are talking porno.
But you know what?
I can name the names for you.
The Christian womanhood spooktacular in Hammond, Indiana.
I just got the ad today.
It said how to be hot and steamy in your 40s.
Was the session being taught by Jo Beth Hooker?
Look, look, Frank, don't mess with me, okay?
Because I'll go get the ad right now.
I'll get in my car.
You guys can all wait here.
I'll go get the advertisement.
I'll bring it in.
It says how to be hot and steamy in your 40s.
Is that what 1 Timothy 2 said?
No!
And that's it.
First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana.
If you don't like me naming the names,
go to any church you want that will not name the names.
You're going to the one that does.
Name the names, Baptist Church.
Pastor, name them all.
It's where you're here.
It sounds like he's Russian or something,
but the name might be name them all.
He's not Russian.
He just names the names.
That's all.
But look at Revelation 2.
Before I got sidetracked on that,
it says,
Notwithstanding, I have a few things against thee,
because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel,
which calls herself a prophetess,
to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication
and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication
and she repented not.
And here's a woman who's a predator.
She's in a church.
She's calling herself a prophetess.
She's teaching the Word of God
and she's secretly seducing men in the church into fornication.
But take out a pen.
If you have a pen and you don't mind marking your Bible,
just do me a favor
and underline these words in verse 20.
I have a few things against thee.
If you don't mind marking your Bibles,
get a pen and then just mark.
I have a few things against thee,
because thou sufferest that woman.
You got that underlined?
And then underline these words, to teach.
Now think about it.
Now you say,
Oh man, you're taking out words.
I'm not taking out the words.
I'm just trying to show you something.
I didn't say cross out everything
between woman and to teach.
I'm not saying cross out.
I'm just trying to emphasize something in this verse.
Didn't Paul use these exact words,
I suffer not a woman to teach?
And then in Revelation 2, he said,
Thou sufferest that woman to teach
and to seduce my servants.
Now he didn't say,
I have a few things against thee
because you suffer that woman to seduce my servants.
Are you following what I'm saying here?
He didn't say,
I suffer against you
because you suffer that woman to seduce my servants.
He said, no, I have a few things against thee.
Does anybody know what a few things is?
It's more than one.
Now he said,
I've got one thing against you
because you let that woman seduce my servants
to commit fornication.
You know, I have a few things against thee.
Now a few is how many?
Three or more.
Okay, here are a couple, two.
You learn a lot in this church.
Don't ever say you're not being fed.
There's a couple, a few is three or more.
Guess what?
I'm going to shock you.
Many, four or more.
Several, three or more.
Okay, we learn a lot.
And so it says here,
I have a few things against thee
because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel,
which called herself a prophet,
to teach, that's the first thing,
and to seduce my servants to commit fornication
and to eat things to sacrifice themselves.
How many things are listed there?
Three.
Three problems.
Number one, why is she teaching?
Why is she allowed to call herself a prophetess
like she's some kind of a preacher
of God's word in the church?
He says,
number one, why is she teaching?
Number two, she's seducing servants to commit fornication.
Number three, she's seducing them
to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
And by the way,
throw your Schofield Bible away
that says that eating things sacrificed unto idols
is a doubtful thing in 1 Corinthians 8.
Oh, of doubtful things.
There's something doubtful about whether it's wrong
to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
It's wrong.
Didn't we just read it?
Read it a little further.
And when you get to Revelation 2,
you'll find out it's wrong.
And let's go to Titus chapter 2.
We're on a roll with the twos.
Titus chapter 2.
And so I just wanted to show you that,
but, you know, there's nothing in the Bible
that's incidental coincidental on a quick note.
Nothing in the Bible is incidental,
coincidental, or accidental.
Because if it says,
I suffer not a woman to teach,
and then it says,
Thou sufferest that woman to teach,
that caused me to stop and take notice.
And then as I looked at it a little further, wow.
Pretty clear.
A few things against you.
One, two, three things that are a problem.
Now look at Titus chapter 2.
Verse number 1, the Bible says,
But speak thou the things...
We're continuing on the subject of women
teaching and preaching the Bible.
Joyce Meyer.
Right?
Well, it says,
But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine,
that the aged man be sober,
grave, temperate,
sound in faith,
and charity in patience.
The aged women likewise,
that they be a behavior
as become of holiness,
not false accusers,
not given to much wine,
teachers of good things,
that they may teach the young women...
Oh, man, you see,
women are commanded to get up
and teach women the Bible.
No, let's keep reading.
He says,
Teachers of good things,
that they may teach the young women...
The book of Deuteronomy.
That they may teach the young women Bible doctrine.
No, he says,
They may teach the young women
to be sober, to love their husbands,
to love their children,
to be discreet, chaste,
chaste means pure,
lack of fornication,
keeping yourself pure,
chaste, keepers at home,
good, obedient to their own husbands,
that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Now, think about this.
If I said,
Brother Dave,
would you teach me how to fish, please?
Because I don't know hardly anything about fish.
Do you know how to fish, brother?
I don't know how to fish,
hardly at all, honestly.
I've only been fishing
one time where I caught a fish successfully.
I caught a little trout,
and I cooked it and ate it.
I cooked in the campfire
and ate it right there.
It was in the water,
and an hour and a half later,
I was eaten.
So that was the only time
I've ever fished in my life.
I was a teenager.
Well, let's say,
Brother Dave,
we're going to teach me how to fish.
Is he going to stand behind the pulpit
and sit me down?
Let me tell you something about fishing.
No, what's he going to do?
He's going to take me,
okay, are you listening?
He's going to take me out
to the river somewhere.
He's going to,
and you know what?
I'm going to bait my own hook,
by the way,
and every real man
baits his own hook.
It doesn't matter how slimy
and dirty the lures are.
You bait your own hook,
man, you bait your own hook.
So I'm getting off on
all these rabbit trails.
Anyway, the point is,
if he's going to teach me how to fish,
he's going to take me and say,
look, let me show you how to fish.
Hold the rod like this.
Throw it like this.
Show me how to do it.
Look, teaching is not always
standing up and getting up
and preaching, okay?
Sometimes teaching is just hands-on.
Now, here we're not seeing
somebody getting up
and teaching the Bible.
We're seeing a woman
teaching another woman
practical things.
I mean, just about,
this is how you deal with your husband.
This is how you deal with your children.
This is how you take care of the house.
This is how you be a keeper at home.
You know, you've got to be discreet.
You've got to be chaste.
You've got to be sober, okay?
This is not a Bible lesson.
Are you listening?
These are just practical things
that are being taught.
You see, he says,
speak out of the things
which become sound doctrine
or they fit in with sound doctrine.
Have you ever said,
well, that alpha is not very becoming
on her, okay?
That's what it means
to become sound doctrine, okay?
It's not becoming.
It's not appropriate.
It's not a proper adorning.
And so we're to adorn
the gospel of God our Savior
in all things, the Bible says.
And so women are to teach.
He has these practical things of,
hey, let me show you how to cook.
Let me show you how to keep the house.
Let me show you how to
take care of your children, okay?
But no, I don't believe in a woman
getting up and preaching
the Bible to anybody.
I just don't believe it.
Whether it's a boy, not a man,
it's just a boy
because he's under 17 years
and 11 months
or he's 24 years old
in a Bible college.
So that suddenly makes him a boy.
And so that's what I believe
and that's what the Bible says.
Look at 1 Timothy 5, verse 14.
We're looking at women's roles.
1 Timothy 5, 14.
See, oh, man, you're just all about
bashing women.
You know what?
I'm not about bashing women at all.
Listen to this great verse.
I'm going to preach a verse to you
that you've probably never even heard this verse before.
Listen to this verse.
And where are you hearing it?
Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Not a church that bashes women.
Listen to this verse.
And on the Sabbath day,
this is Paul in Acts 16, 13.
And on the Sabbath,
we went out of the city by a riverside
where prayer was wont to be made.
And we sat down and spake
unto the women which resorted there.
Paul in Acts 16, 13.
He went to a place
where there were only women
just to go sobering,
just to win women to Christ.
It's not about bashing women
or we don't love women.
Hey, women,
do you remember the beginning of the sermon?
Women are equal with men.
They just have different roles than men.
A woman could be
the greatest member of this church
if she's the number one soldier
in this church.
Amen and amen.
I believe that.
And I'm not saying I believe that.
Honestly, from the top of my head
to the bottom of my foot,
I believe that.
Hey, who's the preacher
who's teaching you
that in Acts 2,
it doesn't all go to Peter?
It goes to 119 other people,
many of which were women
and Peter.
But I'm not going to stand up here
and compromise God's Word to you
and tell you
that men and women
have the same roles
because they don't.
Men and women
have different roles.
It's not about being better.
It's about being different.
Women are not to be in authority.
Hey, I don't even believe
women should be voting.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Because you know what?
Women,
if we're being ruled by the ballot,
if we're a democracy,
if we're a democratic republic
where people vote,
why would we put women in authority?
Say, oh, you're crazy.
Well, you know who else is crazy?
John Adams.
Right.
You know who else is crazy?
James Madison.
James Madison,
the father of the Constitution.
You know who else is crazy then?
George Washington.
Man, this country was
starved by a bunch of psychos.
No, they weren't.
They just believed just like me
that men should be in authority.
That's why women weren't allowed
to vote until the 20th century.
Isn't that a shock?
And so, no,
I don't think women should be voting.
And by the way,
you don't like that?
Well, let me give you a little fact.
If women were not allowed to vote,
4,000 babies wouldn't be
doubted today from abortion.
Because guess what?
60% of women in America
think abortion is fine.
And 60% of men in America
think abortion is wrong.
Amen.
So if men were run in the country,
abortion would be illegal.
Let's take every woman
off the Supreme Court.
Let's see if we still
have Roe versus Wade.
We wouldn't.
Right.
Because the women on the court
are voting yes to Roe versus Wade,
yes to abortion,
yes to murder.
Now, God's ways may seem
crazy to you in 2008,
but they actually are the ways
that will be salvaging
our country from destruction.
Where do I have to turn?
1 Timothy 5.14.
I will, therefore,
that the younger women marry,
bear children,
guide the house,
give none occasion
to the adversary
to speak proposefully.
What's God's will
for your life, young lady?
Marry, bear children,
and guide the house.
Run the house.
That's your empire.
You are the queen
of your castle, okay?
You have an empire domain
where you are the guide.
You run things.
Hey, that is your domicile.
You are the boss.
But you know what?
Why do you want to go out
into work and be
somebody else's servant
when you could be
guiding the house
like God told you to?
Okay.
But what else do we have?
1 Corinthians 11.
1 Corinthians 11
is the final place
we're going to turn tonight.
I'm almost done with my sermon.
But I hope you understand
the rules of women.
Oh, man, women can't do anything.
Hey, they can do the greatest thing
in the world,
and it's a silver lining.
The number one most important thing.
But women should not be
preaching and teaching
the Bible by default.
And George Meyer is wrong.
Women preachers are wrong.
Pastors of churches
that are women is wrong.
It's a sin.
It's against the Bible.
The Bible says the bishop
must be the husband
of one wife,
not the wife of one husband.
It says the bishop
must be the husband of one wife.
Now, in 1 Corinthians 11,
we see a chapter
that's dedicated to part
of a woman's submission
and part of the reason
why God has women
wear their hair
the way that he tells her.
And, you know,
I'm sick and tired
of going to church
my whole life
and hearing pastors get up
and scream about men
having long hair.
Now, that's not the part
I'm sick of.
I say amen to that.
The part I'm sick of
is listening to them say that,
and their wife's got short hair.
That's when I'm sick of it.
I don't know about you.
I'm sick of hearing
a bunch of preaching
about men having long hair,
but the women get a pass
to have short hair.
And it's the same way
with clothing.
You know,
men wearing a dress
and good night,
but the women just get
a free pass
to wear whatever they want.
You know,
they can wear pants
and it's fine in churches.
You know,
why the double standards
is what I like to know.
Now, if men
are to dress like men,
women should dress like women,
and if men
are to have their hair
like men, shouldn't women
have their hair like women?
Why the double standard?
I don't get it.
Now, let's read
the Bible together here,
and I'm going to close with this.
1 Corinthians 11, verse 1.
The Bible reads,
Be ye followers of me,
even as I also am of Christ.
Now, I praise you, brethren,
that you remember me
in all things,
and keep the ordinances
as I deliver them.
But I would have you know
that the head of every man
is Christ.
Keep that in mind.
And the head of the woman
is the man.
And the head of Christ is God.
Now, most people,
or many people in this world
misunderstand 1 Corinthians 11
because they don't understand
that verse 3 is key
to this whole chapter.
And if you take out verse 3,
you get a wrong teaching.
And have you ever heard
of these women
that cover their heads
because they think it's a sin
to not have their head covered?
Or they cover their head
in order to pray?
Right?
And there's even
head-covering baptism.
Women who think
that they must have
their head covered
when they pray as women.
Now, they're missing
the whole chapter.
They're missing what it means.
They're taking
that context.
Let's read it together
and let's just use
a little logic here.
The first thing we've got
to know is that
the head of every man
is Christ.
The head of the woman
is the man.
The head of Christ
is God.
That's the first thing
we've got to know going in.
Now, look at verse 4.
Every man praying
a prophesied,
having his head covered,
dishonoreth his head.
Now, who is his head?
Christ.
Just read it in verse 4.
Look at the next one.
But every woman
that prayed
a prophesied
with her head uncovered
dishonoreth her head,
for that is even all one
as if she were shaven.
Okay, so he says,
hey, listen, ladies,
you want to have
a short-bobbed haircut
like Joyce Meyer?
Listen, pastor's wife,
you want to have short hair?
Why don't you just
get a buzz cut
while you're at it?
That's what Paul said.
He said, hey,
why don't you just
get out the Bic razor
and shaving cream
and just go
with the Sinead O'Connor look?
Just totally bald.
Hey, why not just
go all the way
and shave your head, ladies?
Really cute.
Wouldn't that be sweet?
He said,
it's the same thing.
Look, did I say
it's the same thing?
No, Paul said
it's the same thing.
It is all one
as if she were shaven.
For if the woman
be not covered,
let her also be shorn.
Take that pastor's wife
who won't grow
out her hair long,
we're going to get
that later in the chapter,
and just shave her head.
And you know,
that's what we have
to do across America.
Come to church
with an electric razor.
Hey, come here,
give me a hug,
I haven't seen you in a while.
That'll teach ya.
He says,
let her be shaven.
Let her be shorn or shaven.
You decide.
You pick.
Let her be covered.
Verse 6.
For a man indeed
ought not to cover his head
for as much as he is
the image and glory of God,
but the woman
is the glory of the man.
For the man is not
of the woman,
but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man
created for the woman,
but the woman
for the man.
For this cause
ought the woman
to have power
on her head
to create her head.
For this cause
ought the woman
to have power
on her head
because of the angels.
Nevertheless,
neither is the man
without the woman,
neither the woman
without the man
in the Lord.
For as the woman
is of the man,
even so is the man
also by the woman,
but all things
of God.
Judging yourselves,
is it comely
that a woman
pray unto God
uncovered?
Doth not
even nature
itself teach you?
This is where the
head covering Baptist
have missed both.
Doth not even
nature itself
teach you
that if a man
for her hair
is given her
for a covering.
You see that?
So what's the covering
that we've been
reading about?
Long hair.
It's a shame
for a man
to have long hair.
A woman's hair
is her glory.
It's a covering.
So if a man
prays or prophesies
with his head
covered,
long hair,
he dishonors
his head.
He dishonors Christ.
If a woman
prays or prophesies
having her head
uncovered,
she dishonors
her head,
which is
the man.
Okay, that's what
the Bible teaches.
Pretty clear, isn't it?
So the Bible's
teaching here that
women should have
long hair
or a buzz cut.
Those are your
choices, ladies.
Have long hair
or shave it down
to bare skin.
Those are your
two choices.
And you also
have two choices.
Shorn or shaver.
Okay?
And those are,
that's it.
You can have
a buzz cut
or you can
grind your hair
long like God says.
And you know what,
men, you have
long hair.
It's called
short hair
because long hair
is a shame,
the Bible says.
And look at
verse 16.
But if any man
seems to be
contentious,
we have no such
custom,
I bet people
show me that verse
and say,
well see,
the Bible says
if anybody
doesn't agree
with that rule,
you've got
his back on.
Look,
come on,
man.
So God
preaches,
this does
not change.
Okay?
He says,
if any man
seems contentious,
hey,
you just tell
him that I
say we don't
have that
custom of
going around
with a
bunch of
long hair.
That's all
he's saying.
It's not
how we roll.
That's not
our custom.
That's not
the style
that we
wear.
We don't do
long hair
at Faithful
Word Baptist
and that's what the
Bible says
and we'll preach it.
I've never
gotten anybody
told to get
a haircut.
But I've preached
this and
people just
somehow they
figured out to
go out and
get a haircut.
And that's
a blessing.
And so I'm
going to read you
one more verse,
Revelation 9-8,
and they had
hair as the
hair of women
and their teeth
were as the
teeth of lions.
So what is hair
as the hair
of women?
Women have
different roles
than women.
Women have
different strengths
than men.
There are some
things that women
are better at
than men.
There are some
things that men
are better at
than women.
Men are better
at math.
That's for
that guy from
Harvard.
He said it.
Not me.
Men run faster.
Wow.
But women
are better at
other things.
My wife,
goodnight,
if my wife
calls me,
I'm not saying
I lie to her.
She'll just
hear me on the phone.
She knows exactly
where I'm doing,
exactly where I am,
exactly what's
going on.
Let's say
I'll break something
when she's gone
and I'll try
to fix it real fast.
I break a glass,
I clean it up,
destroy the evidence.
She just walks in.
She's just like,
who broke a glass?
You're like,
how did you do that?
Is that true, honey?
I mean,
my wife is just like,
she has ESP
or something.
But then,
she knows
if something went wrong,
something broke,
she knows about it.
I mean,
she is on it.
And you cannot
put anything past her.
I mean,
you know,
I'll be playing
with the matches,
with the kids or something.
You know,
lighting something on fire.
You know,
it's just stuff
that dads do, okay?
She'll come home
like three hours later,
and be like,
I smell smoke.
Who would play on fire?
I took a rope
those hours ago.
You know,
we're playing around.
We're making
we lit some stuff on fire,
you know,
for a little,
you know,
we had Legos and stuff,
you know,
because they had
this little Lego fire truck,
you know,
so they put out the fire
and everything.
She knew.
She knows it all.
So look,
I don't have a clue.
My wife could trim
five inches off her hair,
and I'm like,
something different?
I don't know.
You know?
It's like,
I can't tell the difference.
You know,
I'm not observant.
You know,
women are very observant.
Have you ever heard
that?
You know?
My kids would just
get away with murder,
you know,
if I were the only one watching.
You know,
they'd trick me and fool me,
but they can't fool her.
I don't envy them
being home with her all day.
You can't be home with her.
I'm kidding, of course.
But look,
women have different strengths
than men.
Men have different strengths
than women.
Different roles,
not better than the other,
just different.
Face me.
Let's bow our heads
and have a word of prayer.
We love you, Father,
and thank you for the Bible
and your clear guidance
that you give us in our lives,
how to run the church,
how to run our homes,
dear God.
And thank you
for the happy church
that we have
and that things run
so smoothly here
and we have
so many people saved
and it's really a blessing
to be part of this church
and thank you
for the wonderful home
that you've given us,
dear God,
and my wife and I
and our children.
And please just help everyone
that's here
to internalize the truth tonight
and not get upset
and say,
well, I'm angry with that.
But God,
just help us
to face the Bible,
not explain it away,
not laugh at it
and mock it,
but God,
to stand in reverence
of your word
and to walk away saying,
God knows best.
I don't know
what I'm talking about.
And we love you
and thank you for everything
you do for us.
In Jesus' name I pray.
Amen.