Genetic diversity is real.
Just look at the equator.
Those who are near to it, well, they had some microevolution going on to give them darker
skin, but those who are farther away have lighter skin, enabling them to soak up that
vitamin D better than ever before.
And you look at somebody like Usain Bolt, it's pretty clear that there's something going
on under the hood there, and that doesn't mean that he's impressing anybody or oppressing
them either.
But at the end of the day, genetic diversity is a legitimate fact.
It is out there, it is real.
And you know what?
No matter what your makeup is, we want everyone, at the very least, to have the Baptist Bias.
Thanks for joining us on the Baptist Bias.
I'm your host, Pastor Shelley.
I'm excited to talk about this issue when it comes to racism, genetics, the race mixing,
interracial marriage.
This is such a controversial topic for some reason.
It seems like ever more online is constantly talking about this.
You have people like Nick Flentes that openly declare, "Hey, I'm a racist."
Recently went on the Piers Morgan show, got several million views already.
There's racist memes being just shared everywhere on X, TikTok, Instagram, Gab, of course.
That is a hotspot for racist memes and content and material.
Me personally, I've always just kind of thought it's like kind of a fun thing to just kind
of make jokes and take lightly.
But a lot of people are taking it pretty serious these days.
You see a rise in support for people like Hitler, people like Joseph Stalin, Nick Fuentes
saying that they're cool, saying that he's fans of them.
Lots of people sharing speeches of Hitler, bringing back just ideas of eugenics and things
like this.
And you know, from my perspective, I think it's important to address some of these issues
and talk about uncomfortable subjects and topics and to address some of the quote elephants
in the room, even if they are unpopular.
And you know, at the end of the day, we need to believe what the Bible says on these issues,
even if it is not the coolest thing to say, even if it's not the quote most based, because
at the end of the day, we should care more about what's true than having some popular
opinion.
But I've got a great panel today because I have my cohost, Ben the Baptist, and we're
also bringing another guest, and they don't necessarily agree with me on everything on
this issue, but I'm glad to have them on here to challenge me, and I kind of want to share
a lot of information tonight, but Ben, how's it going?
Are you excited for the show?
Yeah, I am.
I think there's going to be some interesting topics that are brought up here tonight, and
I'll be monitoring the chat as well, so be sure to participate in that.
If you have any good questions that you want to ask, you know, I'll try to interject and
get your question on the air.
Looking forward to it tonight.
I think it should be a good one.
Yeah, and of course, you know, just course preferences, you know, as a Baptist, you know,
I don't think that there's actually a master race out there.
I don't consider myself a racist person.
At the end of the day, though, we don't want to just ignore patterns that we see in this
world.
We don't want to just get rid of all intuition that God has given us.
Obviously, there is racial diversities.
There are things that we see and experience in our world.
Obviously, there's problems.
There's a major immigration issue that's happening in America.
We want to deal with those issues, but at the same time, we can still love all people
and want them to all be saved.
We have to balance these two ideas.
Now, since we're talking about genetics and stuff, there really isn't somebody that I
thought could be a better person to bring on than Pastor Steven Anderson.
He has 18 degrees, not all in biology, but one of them is in biology.
He knows the Bible really well.
We've had a lot of conversations on this subject.
I don't even think we necessarily always agree exactly on every nuance, but he's definitely
an intelligent mind when it comes to the subject, and I'm glad to bring him on here to challenge
our viewpoint.
How's it going, Pastor Anderson?
It's going great.
I really appreciate you having me on.
I've always loved the subject of genetics.
I remember even just when I was a kid, my mom breaking down to me the basics of genetics
at the breakfast nook and we were doing the squares with the different dominant recessive
and she was showing us all that.
And then obviously later in life, I did a much deeper dive into genetics.
I studied it academically and I think it's just a really cool subject.
Super interesting and so I'm looking forward to the conversation because there's a lot
of different ways that we could go with this conversation.
I want to pull up lots of things on the screen.
I don't know if we can go to one of my first images, images number one.
I kind of want to just give a quick just kind of view of where I'm coming from on this discussion
and kind of my just general viewpoint and then I think we can branch out from that.
But my kind of viewpoint is that genetically speaking we're kind of like Mario Kart.
I know I like to simplify things down and just kind of dumb things down or use like
carnal illustrations but again I don't know if we can put these put our images on the
screen or not but I want to try and go through some of those first two images if we can.
But again when you're playing the game Mario Kart and I don't know if anybody's you know
played this or not before but you have several different characters you can choose from and
they all have varying degrees of abilities but at the end of the day you know when it
comes to their abilities it's not like one player is just better than all the others
because if they were everybody just picked that player it's that it's kind of just based
on your preference and your style and what it is that you want so you pick Mario he's
kind of a well-rounded guy you got Toad he's kind of like shorter smaller he's quicker
and faster but you know he can't stand to as much scrutiny if he gets hit you know he's
not as durable you got Bowser who's big he's durable but he's maybe not as quick his maneuvering
and I think even sometimes like it's like acceleration versus the top speed so you got
like all these variables there but they kind of even them out you all got all we all got
tokens and we can put them in the bucket but we can't necessarily you know just say like
hey one player is better than the others I'm kind of curious you know what do you guys
think about that well I would say first of all that you know even if we weren't talking
about race what you just said would be true because even just amongst white people you
know you're gonna have some people that are going to be more naturally athletic you're
gonna have people that are more intellectual you're gonna have people that are good at
one thing bad another or even if we just stayed within one race whether it's white black Hispanic
you know Asian whatever and and so you know the way I look at life is you know instead
of sitting around and thinking about one person being better than another or superior than
another we just need to realize that we've all been dealt a certain hand there are certain
things that we're gonna be good at not good at certain tendencies and you know I think
God just expects us to do the best we can with what we've got you know so if someone
is a low IQ person it doesn't mean that they can't still study and work hard and get smarter
and actually you know learn things and and just because someone maybe has you know a
high IQ or just genetic advantage in that area you know it doesn't mean that they're
going to be a smart person at the end of the day because if they just waste their brain
on drugs and alcohol and don't spend any time hitting the books or just constantly rotting
their brain on TV and video games obviously that person's not going to be smart so you
know I think that there's there's too much emphasis sometimes placed on like IQ because
the way I think about it is it's sort of like a computer and the IQ is like the hardware
right but what really matters is what software are you running on that machine what are you
doing with that machine you know and it's sort of like cameras too if you think about
a video camera that can film at 1080p or something right but then it's out of focus it's going
to look like crap it doesn't matter if it's 1080 because it's not focused right I'd rather
have 360p but it's actually in focus and being handled by a professional cameraman so in
my opinion it's it's more important what you do with the hardware that you're given you
know I like those analogies and I think like I also like a gun or something you know you
could talk about a gun has a certain like magazine for capacity like how many rounds
it has what type of rounds it has maybe exactly how hard or how fast the bullets can be shot
and things like that but you know there's a lot more to just you know the gun than just
those specific details because if you're good at using the gun that's more important than
necessarily the exact caliber perhaps or how many rounds you have and things like that.
You know I do believe that from a hardware perspective or what gun or these other things
like there there are predispositions in our genetics of IQ and I know I've talked with
you been a little bit about this and I don't want to put words in your mouth but in prior
conversations you kind of felt like IQ was limited to a cultural impact maybe not a biological
impact I'm kind of curious you still kind of lean into that or what is your view on
IQ here?
well I would say the part of the argument that I was taking issue with was more so the
racial component like the idea that if you have a certain skin color you're just genetically
predisposed to be dumber or smarter and like I get it you know you could argue my reputation
mostly comes down to come on man but I just feel like there's more of a cultural element
there when it comes to skin color then there is a genetic element if we're talking about
intelligence specifically yeah but I just want to ask like do you believe that some
people have a higher IQ than others from a genetic perspective only from a biological
perspective only or do you think it's only cultural I think that in general there probably
is a link in terms of like your natural capacity to be an intelligent person meaning that yeah
I'm sure some people probably have a higher IQ than others but like what you guys have
talked about though what really matters is the quote-unquote software that you're downloading
onto that hardware so while there may be different taps as it were I don't think though that those
are necessarily related to race though I don't think that the I'm not talking about race now
I'm just saying in general do you think some like some people have a higher IQ than the answer to
that yeah the answer that is yes especially when you look at the fact that there's different
abnormalities out there whether it's those who are more you know mentally handicapped versus like
super geniuses and those obviously have to do with their genetics yeah obviously from an IQ perspective
even if you had a great genetics if you are never taught you never read you never learn like you're
probably not going to realize your full potential of your biological IQ so I get that same with
athleticism right you could be super athletic from a genetic perspective but you never practice
shooting or dribbling or passing or throwing or skating or any of those things and you're
not going to reach your full potential but I guess the argument is like some people and again we're
just throwing out numbers some people may only ever get to like 100 IQ as their full potential
whereas others maybe could reach 120 or 130 or 150 as their full potential if they put in the same
level of effort energy at least that's my perspective of how those things could or could
not work but just your biology is kind of like this picture in mario kart like mario has a certain
biology here and based on that he has certain attributes or traits i think if you go to the
number three image three oh yeah go to two is fine two is good is bigger to see see wario here
has a certain like tokens in these buckets right like and it's almost like everybody in the
characters of of this mario kart they only get certain amount of tokens like if you added up
all the amounts here it would be pretty much equivalent for all players it's just which
which buckets are these things being put into and just my viewpoint and kind of just understanding
how you know we look at the world from general populations general groups of people that people
have tokens in different buckets here and so that's what i'm going to try and prove tonight is just
like where i see that there's some some buckets that general populations have but at the end of
the day that no one ends up being a master race and i think that's important because when you think
about hitler ideology evolutionary thinking like they genuinely believed that some groups of people
were more evolved and just that they basically had more tokens and overall like if you just added up
their entire score this general population is just better in every category and i don't believe that
so so and i think and i think that's you know i think it's important for a couple reasons number one
then everybody's unique and everybody's special in some ways right because yeah maybe there's a
trade-off like i didn't get as much height but maybe i got more intelligence or maybe i didn't
get as much eye horn coordination but i have another trade-off like there's going to be
trade-offs to your height weight size beauty intelligence athleticism like you know and again
there's some people that are going to be genetic lottery winners and there's going to be some
people that are genetic lottery losers as an individual but as general populations are considered
you know there's typically like common patterns and then again even from a from a spiritual
perspective which we can go there too you could be a genetic a genetic lottery winner like let's
just say tom brady or somebody or someone that's like a super athlete they might be a genetic
lottery winner from the fact that they may be smart tall athletic and you could look at someone
that's not tall not very smart not very athletic but then it's like what are the likelihood of
those people getting saved you know like what's the likelihood of someone like tom brady being
so wealthy and prideful and having all these things end up accepting the gospel of jesus christ and
getting saved and then the person that is a lot more humble in life like what's his chance you
know you got lazars the beggar who basically kind of has like a rough life like a horrible life and
then you have the rich man that ferried sumptuously and you could argue hey this guy had a way better
life but hey he ended up not getting saved and went to hell this beggar had a rough life ends up
getting saved going to heaven you got the guy that was born blind and then later in life gets
healed he obviously got saved would have been better to have been born having your eyesight and
having you know done great accolades through having vision and then going to hell versus the
guy that was born blind and had to live a long portion of his life blind right and then he ends
up getting saved like so i i think that there's a lot of things here that even if you could argue
somebody is genetically superior than another individual doesn't even mean it's necessarily
even better in the grand scheme of salvage salvific perspective right so you know there's
a lot there's a lot to unpack here but i'm just kind of curious from your perspective pastor
Anderson do you feel like there's kind of trade-offs genetically that when you look at just
general populations that even if one population is kind of favored in one category there's kind
of trade-offs and it seems like nobody kind of gets it all yeah obviously different people
adapted different strengths and it's definitely based on geography but at the same time here
here's kind of the problem before we go further i just want to give kind of the problem that i have
philosophically with this conversation in general is that like when we talk about okay this group
of people is higher iq than this group of people or something like that and obviously anybody wants
to could just go on google and just search for a map of like the average iq in countries across
the world and you're going to see just dramatic differences in the average iq based on geography
but the problem that i have with that is that i don't really see the benefit in telling people
this because like if you tell someone oh you have this high iq you're so smart then it could just
make that person become arrogant and prideful and think that they're better and maybe slack off and
not really even you know work to their potential mentally and then if you tell someone else that
they're oh you're dumb you're low iq you're never going to be an intellectual just focus on working
with your hands some then the problem with that is then it becomes like a self-fulfilling prophecy
like oh i'm not smart or something you know when in reality i think that it's better just if we
didn't know our iq like i don't even want to take an iq test i don't even want to know because if
it came back high then i would just be prideful if it came back low then i would just maybe you
know think that i can't do things and it might hold me back just because it'd be a self-fulfilling
prophecy you know why don't we all just kind of do the best with what we got and just try to be as
smart as we can try to be as athletic as we can and well i want to push back i want to push back
on that so here's here's here's a couple push backs i would have on this number one is you know
i think iq should have some benefit to the society in the context of like hey maybe you're in school
and they're just testing the general iq and they're saying hey these people that have higher iqs
y'all should maybe lean into some of these professions that that really leans into you know
whether that be computer science or technology or you know being maybe a pilot or different jobs
where iq actually has a significant impact and it's not necessarily to like degrade people that
have lower iqs it's just simply saying like we're trying to challenge the people that do have good
iqs if they don't want to know they don't have to know but i'm just saying hey i kind of want to
know what my capabilities are and then try to push those people to excel and to fill their bucket
but here's the thing everybody should seek seek as much wisdom as they possibly can and gain as
much knowledge no matter what their iq level is and at the end of the day like by knowing that
information i think you could then challenge the people that maybe are on the high point of the
scale to take that knowledge and use it you know for their advantage or again if there's people
that what if what if i just said you know i just really want to be a rocket scientist or something
and then it's like well unfortunately you know i don't really necessarily have the biological
equipment to do so you know could it be misleading to like encourage people to go down that route
or through diversity hires like dei type measures try to put people in positions that they're not
going to necessarily be able to be qualified for same would be with anything what if what if i just
said like hey dad i want to play in the nba and be a center in the nba and as a child i'm not like
realizing like hey you're just not going to biologically ever meet the qualifications
to be a center for the nba so it's kind of silly for me to just sit here and play basketball all
day every day of my life no i see what you're saying a center i see what you're saying as far
as like oh you know you don't want to invest all this time toward doing this you know really
intellectual career path if there's no way you're going to make it but you know i would say to that
you know you're going to figure that out along the way anyway because eventually the classes are going
to get too hard and and what i would say is that it's really no harm no foul if let's say you're
just kind of a middle-of-the-road guy of intelligence and you're trying to go down these really
difficult paths of astrophysics or something you know what i mean and then you know you realize
along the way that this is a little too hard then you know you just change your your career path at
that point you just change majors everybody changes their major everybody changes their
career probably at some point and i would i'm a strong believer in working on your weaknesses
like i want to be a well-rounded person and everybody likes to just work on their strengths
you know i like to work on my weaknesses so that i can be balanced and a well-rounded individual
and and so this thing of like oh well here's what you're good at so put all your time and energy
and effort into that that's not really the way that i live my life and that's not really the
way i encourage other people to live their lives i would say if somebody you know spends a bunch of
time practicing sports and it turns out they're not that athletic it probably didn't hurt them
to get out there and do a bunch of sports and work on that weakness that you probably at the
end of the day you're going to be a well-rounded individual and everybody's eventually going to
find their niche i mean i don't want to be in like some totalitarian i know this isn't what
you're saying but i don't want to be like something no i know what you're going with china has been
saying hey you should go down this road path because of your predisposition and and i'm saying i don't
want to be in this probably some balance there dystopia where it's like oh you failed this test
so now you have to go into this blue collar thing or you have to go in or you're smart so you can't
do blue collar work even if you like it you we need you to be some kind of a you know scientist
or whatever like to me i think that people should just get out there try everything work hard
yeah but what's something that you're you said weaknesses what are you weak in what's what's an
example like what's an example of one of your weaknesses like i don't know i don't want to
suggest i'm just saying like from your own perspective like what's something you say you're
kind of weakened or you're not as good at or you you feel like you this is like a job interview
yeah exactly he works my weakness is i work too much i studied you know i no i mean i would say
that sometimes my weakness is is laziness that's probably something that all men deal with yeah but
i'm more like saying like let's just pick an activity or an item like ice skating or basketball
or or chess or like i mean i'm just saying like throwing something out there like you feel like
you're not i would say that i am not predisposition to be very athletic so what if i said quit
pastoring because you're good at that and just try to become a professional athlete that kind of
seems like nonsensical when you're so good at that so it's just like if someone's really good
with their hands and it's like hey we're trying to guide you towards you know using your hands
and employment maybe being someone that is a welder or someone that's an artist or someone
that uses like you have this skill in art or music or welding or hands like it doesn't make
sense to then force them to be like a stem major and try to become a bio engineer it's like i feel
like this is a straw man though here's here's what i'm saying okay what i'm saying is that let's say
you know you say oh this particular race tends to have a lower iq you know well there are going to
be exceptions to that number one and so i don't want to just say to a person oh you're such and
such the race so you should do this job that's for people of lower intelligence or something and
you should stay in your lane and and you should do this i think every individual should be able to
figure that out for themselves and should be able to try things and do whatever they want
and just have the freedom and not be told by other people what they can and can't accomplish
you know here's the thing maybe there are some people of middling intelligence though that if
they're going to work really hard and do one of these high-end cerebral jobs just because they
work their butt off and maybe they can do it and get it done and whatever i'm just saying you know
people should be allowed to do what they want and i don't think it's profitable to start labeling
people and saying oh you're black so you know you're good at sports or you're not as intelligent or
oh you're asian so you must be super academic you must be a martial artist or something or
you know oh you know white men can't jump or whatever like i'm just saying like i don't
think that that is helpful like especially as preachers you know i feel like my job as a
preacher is to just try to lift people up and to try to get people to be their best version of
themselves physically mentally and spiritually you know i don't think anybody should just allow a
stereotype to define who they are so yeah i'm not going to tell people i'm not going to tell a dumb
person hey go do this really cerebral job and i'm not going to tell some out of shape person
hey you're going to the olympics i'm not talking about lying to people that's kind of a straw man
what i'm talking about is just saying hey if if you're bad at athletics that's the more reason
to spend more time playing sports so that you can stop being such an uncoordinated spaz you know
well again yeah there's a layer of trouble you're saying you spend more time reading and studying
i feel like we're a little ahead of ourselves in the conversation we just keep wanting to go to race
so i want to i let let's let's let's slow down to speed up here i want to go to image nine for a
second because i want to talk about skin color since it's been brought up multiple times i
haven't brought it up but you guys keep bringing it up all right and and here's the thing it's
literally in the name of the broadcast yeah literally like that's fair that's fair but
but here's the thing like my viewpoint on skin color is kind of just what you know grok and
everybody else will say like the reason why some people have different color skin is mostly based
on geography you know if you just look at a map this is just showing a map of skin color based on
geography and that's pretty much just what we observe people from certain areas have darker
skin and it seems like it has a relation to proximity to the equator now again since there's
been in the last hundred years or so especially a lot of just mixing technology just all kinds
of travel and stuff like that there's definitely areas that have had much more mixing you know in
the last several you know maybe hundred years or so but especially prior to that you know this
this chart is just generally accurate as far as just like what we kind of observe in the world
when it comes to skin color and i don't believe that skin color is something that makes people
like a different group of people or something like that you know the bible says that we're
made of one blood and i think that you know just looking at this chart could sometimes maybe unwind
people's imagination when it comes to evolutionary thinking when it comes to history when it comes to
charles darwin's viewpoints because specifically if you go to the british museum today and you go
to other exhibits they will have skulls all lined up and they'll even show skulls from australia and
say these people are less evolved and blah blah blah and some people still today i see at least
online saying oh black people are less evolved or black people are not the same type of human or not
the same classification or whatever and it's like the reason why their skin is black is just hey
they live in an area where being darker skin was more advantageous and people have lighter skin
lives in an area where having lighter skin was more advantageous and through the just process
of natural selection skin colors adapt obviously when you have the same group of people kind of
mingling and mating for hundreds of years they're all going to kind of blend and tend to just have a
certain you know characteristic or trait but skin color doesn't really mean anything it's not it's
not inherent i don't believe that there's a one-for-one skin color with any other attribute
but i do think that just generally speaking we can kind of see these things you know the bible says
about the ethiopian can the ethiopian change his skin and i would suggest that the reason why that's
brought up in the text is because ethiopians were dark skin in the bible because of the proximity
to the equator and that we still see that today that people that are in that part or that region
of the world have darker skin and that's just never going to really change that the geography
of this world kind of just draws out certain human characteristics and traits and so people
are going to have these kind of skin colors in these areas given enough time and that's just
the reality of the situation i'm kind of curious ben do you feel like you would argue with this
chart or would you argue with this picture uh no there's nothing that i i mean it's just talking
about the different physical characteristics that people have based on their geography so i don't
really see anything that i could gain say personally what about you pastor anderson i mean
obviously this is just it's just factual that obviously people are darker at the equator but
but one thing that i want to mention though is that the forces of natural selection that led to
these changes in humans where you have the lighter skin in the northern regions and the darker skin
around the equator though i would say those forces are probably no longer at work in 2025
because in order for those things to be happening you have to have a lot of people dying you know so
if we're in a situation where we have all this technology and we have all this really nutritious
food and we have climate controlled houses then you know natural selection is not going to work
because there's no survival of the fittest if everybody's surviving you know what I mean
because we're all surviving we're all getting fit it doesn't matter if you're black as the night
or you know just super pale super white skin like you can easily survive in any of these places
you know you could you could be living in Alaska as a black man and you're going to be fine you
could be a super pasty white person and you know living in sub-saharan Africa and you're also
going to be fine because those forces are no longer at work but if we go back thousands of
years ago when people are struggling to get proper nutrition they're not just going into
the grocery store and just having all the food groups just on a silver platter all this fruit
that's out of season being flown in from other places and everything I mean a lot of people
that are just living hand to mouth and just struggling to have enough food or even if they
are very civilized and you know but isn't most of the world struggling to have food I mean I get
America as an exception I know Europe has some exceptions here but I mean if we go to sub-saharan
Africa are we going to really walk into a store and just get whatever food we want are they really
just going to have just endless supplies of just groceries I mean I feel like this argument is kind
of like an Americanized echo chamber yeah obviously obviously you could definitely point to parts of
the world where people are starving and struggling to get proper nutrition and where natural selection
is going to work on those people and there's going to be a survival of the fittest going on
because people are struggling to get proper nutrition and whatever or they're living in a
really violent place where people are constantly being killed if they you know aren't strong
enough fast enough coordinated enough or whatever but yeah you're right I am thinking more about like
America Europe South America but even a lot of Africa is obviously yeah you are going to be able
to walk into the grocery store in most African places and find all your food groups and find
nutritious food in most of these places yeah of course you could point to exceptions of places
where people are really starving and doing that I'm just I'm just bringing up the point though
that in the United States of America Canada Mexico Europe from a biological perspective
there's not natural selection going on as far as just people just surviving because they have
a certain phenotype well I guess yeah I probably differ in opinion here a little bit I would just
say natural selection is still happening but the but the technology that we have is artificially
usurping natural selection so technology can come in and into the equation and can potentially usurp
what natural selection would do and it can artificially adjust these particular results
but that the natural selection processes are still just constantly happening that there
those forces are still at play and especially with the elimination technology it would go back to that
you know that heavy force that's being dictated by the equator by climate by other environmental
factors that just kind of permeate yeah it's just if we were if we were living outside growing our
own food foraging our own food and we're just constantly at war with our neighbors and we have
no climate control and it's just super hot in the summer in Arizona super cold in the winter in
Minnesota or something then you know people are there's going to be a lot more people dying
infant mortality and just people dying young and the strong are going to survive and when I say
strong you know it could be physical strength it could be that you're adapted because you've got
the dark skin or the light skin it could be that you have the brains to survive as well you know
you have to be smart about things and here's the thing if you look at these geographies certain
geographies could you know if we went back thousands and thousands of years when it was
harder to survive when these different skin colors would have emerged okay because obviously
they're not new this happened thousands of years ago the point is that certain geographies could
reward you for being able to plan ahead like let's say you're living in a really cold place
and in the winter everything's just going to be frozen and you're not going to be able to get food
and you're going to have to build that cabin you're going to have to have the woodpile stock
to firewood you're going to have to have all the meat salted and preserved you're going to dry out
the fruits and do all those type of things to get through the winter whereas if you're living in a
tropical climate near the equator you know you can pretty much you know relax a little bit because
it's like you don't have to get ready for the long winter and you're probably also going to be
getting more like vitamins from fruits and vegetables more like year-round you're going
to have access to that kind of stuff you're going to have access to seafood year-round you know you're
going to have sunshine year-round whereas if you're in these cold places you're really going to have
to think ahead build things you're going to have to organize so i think that that's a big part of it
too i don't think see see i would say this that there's definitely no genetic connection between
like skin color and having big muscles or skin color and being smart or skin color and having
these critical thinking skills or skin but but what it is is that it could just be coincident
you know could it be well wait i wouldn't say coincidence could it be correlated not like a
causation though in the sense that it's it's it's when i say coincident i mean it's just two things
that are happening at the same time because let's say you're far north you got to be able to think
ahead and plan and build things and you're also going to have the light skin because it's cloudy
all day and you got to get that vitamin d and and you know you could well and again i would add to
this and say that going just super far north isn't just like an intellect there's not like an iq scale
like the further you go towards the north pole you just get smarter because because i would argue
that the scandinavian countries where you know you maybe had vikings in times past weren't
necessarily going to be of a higher iq or intelligence than those in europe necessarily
or or germany or something like that it seems like intelligence is kind of a trait that's drawn out
based on warfare um just because you know from a warfare perspective you have to survive and
typically what wins in warfare is is more of a technology intelligence factor than it is maybe
a brute strength as time has evolved over time and so you don't even necessarily have to have
the quantity of troops you don't even necessarily have the brute force or the brute strength
sometimes you can outsmart your foe sometimes you can use technology to usurp them so if you
have superior castles guns you know whatever it is catapults maybe you have horses they don't
have horses you know just different things throughout history maybe you have ships obviously that
was a big factor for warfare throughout history you know today it's it's become the airfare battle
whether you have the right kind of uh you know technology this rule the skies in the ukraine
war right now they're the russians are using a lot of drones just taking drones and just bringing
over there and just killing people without even having to move a muscle so i think warfare is
constantly evolving through technology and whoever yields the greatest technological advantages often
are the ones that are going to win so by being someone like let's just say germany specifically
why is germany in world war two producing just so many superior technologies to a lot of the
surrounding nations it could just be out of necessity i mean they're surrounded on all
sides by foes you have the uk you have russia you have france um that's kind of like surrounded on
a lot of different sides so they're almost forced by nature to think about warfare to think about
how to protect themselves how to defend themselves as a result they may end up acquiring more
technologies more inventions um it may be a trait that is more favorable in that particular
geography whereas if you live in an isolated geography where no one's going to invade you
and you're not surrounded by enemies maybe that trait isn't necessarily as enforced through
natural selection through biological means so you know i would say that there's definitely nothing
where you could just say like hey just going north makes you smarter going south makes you dumber
or a certain skin color or whatever but there could be correlations um i want to show some
different uh examples and i i don't have it in the document but i just had i put a bunch of charts
in here and i wanted to go to athletics because i feel like athletics is shows a lot of the
extremities that we would have and you know i think that there's maybe some correlations there
um i don't know if i have all these labeled can you like the top 10 quarterbacks of all time
so the top 10 quarterbacks of all time you know based on this picture all it's all white guys
virtually speaking obviously some of them are a little bit you know they got a little bit of a
tan there except for maybe patrick mahomes and and you know patrick homes is somebody that i
would like to address in this conversation because you know from my perspective i don't think that
quote race mixing or having a lot of diversity from parents actually is necessarily a bad thing
i think that you know if you understand biology and genetics you know the more mix typically
the better result but that doesn't mean that all mixing would actually be good because if you took
two you know strong people but they're both dumb your result might be someone that's strong but
they might be dumb if you take two smart people that aren't athletic you might get someone that's
really smart but that doesn't mean they're necessarily athletic so just because you mix
two different people doesn't mean you're going to get a great result per se in a certain category
but by taking you know the best of both worlds sometimes you could create what i would call like
a genetic lottery winner again and you get someone like Patrick from the homes who kind of has that
black athleticism being brought with them and then you have you know maybe the eye hand coordination
that some of these other quarterbacks are bringing to the table genetically and you kind of get this
mix because it seems like my just this is my personal opinion seems like when you look at
athletics seems like the white skin people or the or the white people have better eye hand
coordination and it seems like darker skin people have a better athletic prowess like they have more
speed strength agility and so that white men can't jump you know that that old adage has a little
bit of truth or legitimacy to it i want to skin through these quickly and i'm going to get your
thoughts here uh go to the best pass rushers of all time now we're going to see a pretty big
difference here from quarterbacks to the best pass rushers um and i don't know how quickly they
are able to swap these or not but while they're pulling this up again you know when it comes to
quarterbacks some of this is going to be a little bit subjective we're just talking about people
that are standing in the pocket just throwing the football you know for the most part if you look
at the NFL you study it typically it's a white guy that stands in the pocket and throws it
typically the black quarterbacks are ones that rush the ball they run the ball so they're a dual
threat but they're usually not as good of a pocket passer we talk about some of the best defensive
ends we talk about just someone that's going to just run through the line and tackle the quarterback
i mean it's dominated again by mostly larger black men you got jj watt in there is an exception
you got a couple other people um when it comes to best pitchers of all time i don't and again i
don't know if we can just rapid fire some of these or not maybe i'll just say it best pitchers i mean
it's pretty much stacked with a bunch of white guys best uh three point shooters which i thought
was kind of interesting kind of a mixed bag yeah so there's the pitchers um see if you can go to
the top 10 uh best three point shooters one that i thought was interesting i even asked grok his
opinion on this particular subject and it's pretty much agreeing with me but one thing it brought up
was nfl kickers and i was thinking about it i'm like have you ever seen a black nfl kicker ben
well i don't watch much football but so you're not a football i'm not really a good it's just
kind of an interesting thought or something so i just kind of like asked like all the kickers in
the nfl um i don't know if you can go to those screenshots or not i asked grok i said is there
like any non-white nfl kickers that are actively on the roster right now and it said that there
was this guy named carlos santos and i don't know if you can pull him up um carlos santos but it was
just kind of funny i was just like this is the non-white nfl kicker um this kind of makes me
think of like when they say like jews aren't white or something like that uh is that kind
of argument then then i asked grok i was like is there anybody else and uh just for sake of time
go to the joey sly one it's the tennessee titans guy he's got a blue jersey on they said this guy
is a black nfl quicker so according to google ai it says this is a black nfl kicker so that was
kind of funny i asked grok like you know a lot of these questions now i found on my own there is
actually somebody for the new england patriots uh his is his andreles boralega uh boreligus i
don't know how you say his last name he didn't sound he sounded like there was some potential there
i don't know if you can go to him he's got a green tie on he looks like he might have some
spanish influence so i i'll admit that there is at least some nfl kickers that maybe weren't just
like snow white or whatever yeah there we go andreles boreligas is the new england patriots
uh kicker so so obviously he got a little bit of diversity in there um fastest 100 meter sprinters
pretty much dominated by all black guys you brought did you bring up houston bolt
yes yeah i've been along famous um swimmers it's very white obviously you could think of
michael felps as being in there but you know to me when you look at athletics it's not a perfect
picture and there's always going to be exceptions but it just seems like and i've just i felt like
i noticed a pattern seem like maybe some of the white guys had better eye hand coordination
some of the black guys had more speed agility physical endurance according to statistics like
99 percent of cornerbacks and NFL are black you know you can look at other sports and other
considerations but then you you sometimes have what i would call what a super athlete and a lot
of times the super athletes are some of the best athletes of all time are these mixed people so
someone like Derek Jeter Derek Jeter is someone that's coming from a mixed background can you
pull up his picture of his parents yes the next one so that's his mom and dad there on and i don't
know how the audience is viewing this on the right or left side but basically his mom and dad there
and then go to the Patrick Mahomes one yeah there you go so Derek Jeter is one of the greatest
baseball players to ever play you got Patrick Mahomes arguably one of the greatest quarterbacks
to ever play in the NFL and again he's coming from an obvious mixed race family situation
you could look at Steph Curry I think you could show them is the split I think is the one of the
next the next image is there Steph Curry one of the greatest three-point shooters to ever play
in the NBA and again mixed parents Tiger Woods his parents super mixed again one of the greatest
golfers to ever live here's my point and this is why I want to bring this up I do think that
there's probably a little bit of truth to there's correlations to some of the predisposed genetics
I don't think that means that every white person has great eye-hand coordination I don't think
that every black person has a lot of speed and whatever just saying like in general populations
these things tend to be similar and there's some correlation there but that this is what's also
important is that even if there are these you know correlations that when you mix them sometimes you
get these genetic lottery winners you have these super athletes and i see online and a lot of people
they get really mad they think that race mixing is a sin they think race mixing causes bad outcomes
they think that race mixing is like like pretty much the the biggest crime that you could ever
commit in the world and i would argue like hey how are we seeing like all these amazing athletes
coming from these situations well this is why i bring all those topics up at the same time
if the white people are kind of predisposed to having really good eye hand coordination
and black people have the athleticism then when you get these mixes sometimes then you get this
like eye hand coordination and athleticism mix that you wouldn't normally get and that's why
they're these super athletes you have to explain why does why is tiger woods so dominant why is
patrick mahomes so dominant why is steve curry so dominant why is derek jeter so dominant probably
because of the genetics that they're getting different pools of genetics and as a result
they're kind of getting they're getting to select hey some of these better eye hand coordination
these other genetics i didn't have and they're getting they're going to borrow from some of
these athletic genetics and so they end up becoming this super athlete super specimen
and and in my mind it actually doesn't say like it's not saying quote race mixing is bad but in
fact in some cases it could even yield a better outcome and that you know when you're too similar
like the muslims like the jews where they're marrying their first cousins and doing whatever
you start getting like really bad results when people are too closely related biologically
you could end up having like horrific outcomes whereas when you bring in these diversities
you end up sometimes having you know athletic superstars so like from from my perspective i
don't think that race mixing is arguably a bad thing an inherent sin or something that's wrong
i'm i'm wanting to get your thoughts here pastor i know i said a lot i know you don't maybe care
about the nfl but i'm just yeah so and here's the thing we don't i've never watched a football game
in my entire life i've never even watched i've never even sat through the super bowl so i have
no uh knowledge about football or interest in football but but here's the thing instead of
talking about these rare except because obviously what you're saying about these you know really
good athletes is valid but instead of talking about the exception which is just some you know
tiny percentage of the population that's some super athlete you know even if we just talk about
just everyone how do our genetics work in general okay is that every single gene we have two copies
of it okay because our DNA is constantly being damaged and all of us have damaged DNA and so
it's like we get a backup is the idea here and so you get half of your genes from your mom and half
from your dad and the way that works is that if you get a bad one the good one covers you okay so
you're taking when you get your genes from your mom and dad you're taking the best of both worlds
so you know theoretically it's going to be greater than the sum of the parts and the way that I like
to explain the importance of this backup to people is like let's say that you have two cameras and
you're filming a church service and I remember when we were making documentaries with these
fancy cameras there were these cameras they would shut off after 10 minutes for some reason right
so you'd have to keep turning them back on and the thing about that is that you know you're going
to lose a couple of seconds while you're turning the camera back on or maybe somebody walks in
front of the camera just for some reason a certain shot is unusable anybody who's edited
video knows that this happens and so when you have two cameras well then when the one camera
goes bad you can cut to the other angle and vice versa if you have three cameras then you're even
less likely to have a point where nothing's working every camera is blocked every camera is turned off
or whatever okay so here's the deal is you know we have all this genetic damage we have all these
mutations all these bad genes and so if we get two copies of everything one copy from mom and one
copy from dad then hey if we have a bad one no problem we'll just go with you know if dad's is
bad we'll go with mom's if mom's is bad we'll go with dad's at least we have one good gene
at every locus okay but here's the problem is when people marry a close relative like let's say
you're marrying your first cousin okay there's a number that you can assign to this okay so
siblings have 50 identical DNA and you you know a father and a son have 50 identical DNA nephew
to uncle is going to be 25 identical grandson to grandfather 25 identical DNA 12 and a half percent
with first cousins and it's really easy to do the math on this every time you take a step up or over
on the family tree you're just you're just cutting it in half so like you know i click up to my
parents boom that's 50 click over to my mom's brother boom now we're down to 25 his son boom
down to 12 and a half percent boom his son six and a quarter right his son three and one eighth
percent identical DNA you know it's pretty easy to do this math in these calculations
but the when we say that and here's the thing a lot of these white supremacist racist types who
just haven't studied genetics we'll just be like well this makes sense because we all have like 90
percent you know DNA with each other so how can you say you have obviously when we say 50 identical
DNA we're talking about the things that could be different we're not talking about the gene that
says that we have two ears and and two eyes and a mouth and a nose we're talking about things that
could be different things that are frequently different from person to person okay you are
going to be at least minimum 50 identical with your sibling and one eighth identical with your
first cousin so here's what that means that means that if i married my first cousin okay one eighth
of the time our genes are going to be identical so that if there's a problem we both have that
problem okay and we all have tons of damage on our DNA so if one eighth of the time there's no
backup that's what happens when you marry your cousin one eighth of the time there's no backup
and that bad gene is going to be expressed in your child okay but then what you have to understand is
that the muslims and the jews they didn't marry their cousin one time they have been marrying
their cousins over and over and over again like i was just rereading the uh thousand one arabian
knights and that's pretty much composed you know from around like 900 ad to 1400 ad because the
different stories were composed at different times so some of the oldest source material is
maybe around 900 ad some of the later stuff around 1400 some and then there's even some later stuff
that's just kind of thrown in from the 1800s it's not really part of the main corpus but it's all
talking about marrying your cousin a lot like like in the stories the main character is just frequently
marrying his first cousin in the stories and so that just kind of kind of shows that that's a big
part of their culture you know even going back a really long time so if you're marrying your cousin
over and over and over again you're going to stack up genetic damage now when you talk about like oh
marrying someone of another race could be beneficial you know because at least their
DNA is really different like you're not related at all so basically you could fix their bad DNA
and they could fix your bad DNA and there is a lot of truth to that now here's the thing though
is it doesn't have to be someone of another race though because like for example I married my wife
we're both white people but she's from the other side of the world and so she's from Germany she's
half German half Hungarian well you know to my knowledge I don't really have any German or
Hungarian ancestors that I know of so like we are genetically very different even though we're both
white people and we got married all of our kids are really healthy really smart like they all have
the hardware and you know they're good looking and it's just because of the fact that you know the
genetic diversity is there if you married your first cousin you married your second cousin
you're much more likely to have deformed children and problems and obviously you know you could you
could have those things anyway you could just by chance have the same genetic problem as someone
else but when you're when you're marrying a relative that's close it's not just that you
might have problems it's that your kids will for sure have problems because that's just the way
DNA works okay and it's interesting if you look historically when the Spanish came and colonized
the new world you know they talked a lot about genetics and they have all these charts and this
is before genetics had been invented or discovered or thought of so they weren't thinking of it in
genetic terms because nobody knew about the science right because Gregor Mendel is the
father of genetics he's an austrian monk and he's in the late 19th century he was a contemporary of
Charles Darwin but neither Gregor Mendel nor Darwin like knew about each other's work like Darwin for
sure did not know about Mendel's work so when when Charles Darwin is coming up with his theories
he didn't really know anything about genetics because genetics as a science hadn't been developed
yet because he wasn't familiar with with Mendel's work necessarily okay. Gregor Mendel's work didn't
become important until the 20th century with the science of genetics emerging then they're going
back and digging out Mendel's stuff and saying oh wow this guy you know did all this great study on
this and I say that to say this is that you know that's why there's so many flaws in Darwin's
thinking because he doesn't know about genetics at all he doesn't know about DNA I mean DNA
wasn't really understood well until the middle of the 20th century and you know that's an
irreducible complexity that flies in the face of you know life originating on its own as someone
like Darwin would have believed okay and so I got on a little rabbit trail there but the point that
I'm making is that long before Mendel or Darwin or any of these guys you know the Spanish were
talking about quote purifying the blood of the natives okay and they had these charts about how
like if the native marries a Spaniard a few times then their blood gets quote unquote purified and
this is usually pointed to as like the extremely racist and offensive like that they're somehow
saying oh these brown people are dirty and we're clean or whatever but I don't think that's
necessarily what they were getting at. I'm not just defending everything about the Spaniards
and their philosophies of course but what you have to understand is that people who travel a lot and
have a lot of transportation are probably a lot more likely to have good healthy genetic diversity
than people who are living in a very isolated place. That's where the inbreeding is going to
happen you know. So if you think about a lot of the natives you know if they were really an
isolated tribe and they're not really hanging around with other tribes and stuff they could
get really inbred. I'm not saying they were all like that because some of them did get around a
lot and intermarry with other people but some of them did have that problem and so you could have
people I want to I want to interrupt here and I want to summarize where you're going with this
for audience's sake you know again you're basically trying to break down the legitimate biology here
you're saying if you're too close then there's gonna be too many mistakes when your genetics
collide but as long as there's at least as long as you're far enough away you're gonna probably
be okay and and again I'm not saying that you have to find the most extreme antithesis to yourself
to actually have the best results but but what I am saying is that there are differences between
populations and those populations could be observed through what happens biologically
of borrowing the best traits because again if you took two really smart people you could
potentially yield a really smart child if you took really two tall people you could yield a
really tall child if you took you know like if you're focusing on any particular outcome
you could possibly manipulate the situation just like dog breeders kind of do where they're trying
to like draw out certain traits in their dogs you can draw these out humanly speaking and to me the
evidence that that's true is these genetic specimens that we see in athletics like a Tiger Woods
like a Steph Curry like a Derek Jeter kind of illustrating my point broader point that hey I
think there are some predispositions there are some genetic related intangibles here that are
being realized through these mega athletes someone suggested in the chat no I think that they just
worked harder than everybody else let's I'm not saying that athletes don't work hard I'm not even
saying those guys didn't work hard but what I it would be kind of a coincidence that just the
greatest athletes happen to all be mixed and they just all happen to work harder than everybody else
I think what's more likely is that every athlete works super hard and trains and that they just
had a higher capacity to perform because of these genetic predispositions you know Pastor
Anderson marrying a woman from Europe is going to benefit probably from those genetic diversities
more than someone marrying someone that's a lot more closely related you're probably going to
have a better genetic polling and in my opinion you probably have a little bit better genetic outcome
just overall because of the fact that you're getting that much more diversity in the genetics
and so my point is that by bringing in more genetic diversity you're probably going to
have a better outcome just generally speaking whereas when you're really closely related
you have the higher likelihood of a worse outcome yeah but there's a there's a lot of diminishing
there's a lot of diminishing returns though so what my point is that just marry a non-relative
and you're fine as long as you marry a non-relative it should be fine you know even if you're like
seventh cousins and don't know it or something sixth cousins and don't know it because because
nobody knows who their sixth and seventh cousins are you can easily accidentally do that and and
and it wouldn't matter it's not going to hurt anything but first cousins second cousins that's
where the danger is and yeah marrying somebody who's for sure very different genetically is
probably going to yield the best outcome what i'm saying is that in interracial marriage is
definitely not going to produce in an inferior product it will produce a child that is greater
than the sum of its parts most of the time just because of the way genetics work where you get a
you get two genes you're going to you know the the one that's the non-damaged gene is the one
that's going to be expressed and the one that's damaged is going to be recessive and and so this
is what this is what i hear constantly online though is i hear well raced raced mixing causes
a lower iq okay that's not true though that i don't think there's any evidence for that
well wait a minute but wait a minute let me let me let me let me address this and i want to i'll
have you answer it if let's just say that that's even true to some degree it could be that it's
not necessarily a bad outcome though because what what we're talking about is let's just say we take
two people and they mate and they both had really high IQ so then their child's IQ and then you take
someone that was high IQ and someone was lower IQ and they mate and they produce a quote lower IQ
but that's just one category they may have actually benefited from several other particular
trait benefits whereas it's like just by only ever trying to to mate for IQ IQ IQ could end
up having detriments in other aspects of their genetics is that not true yeah obviously there's
more to life than just IQ right so so just because you may like take a group of people
where hey one group of people has a lower IQ and another group has a higher IQ let's just say for
sake of argument that was true and they made it the the net result might be a little lower IQ
initially but you're also going to have all these other benefits and several other categories and
again over time it's actually going to have a genetic product that's better than if you're
only going for necessarily one particular attribute so like my idea is like america specifically
america is getting german spanish french it's getting irish it's also mixing in with the
native americans that melting pot of the early colonies and early american is a lot bigger
pool of genetics than just if you just only live in germany if you only live in france if you only
live in uk i would almost argue that americans probably benefited from having a more diverse
genetic pool throughout the 1600s to the present day than the europeans being isolated into just a
smaller group of genetics and that you may even have a better genetic outcome overall i'm just
kind of curious is that even realistic or yeah and there and there there are obviously places
in america where that's not true like for example in the appalachian mountains and kentucky or
something there are these communities where they've been inbreeding and people are severely deformed
super low iq well how does it disagree with what i'm saying that agrees with what i'm saying right
i'm agreeing with you okay okay i'm saying that in there's exceptions to that though i'm saying
that in in america you're right that we've mixed people from all over the world even just quote
unquote white people we had different white people from different places because there's
you know england ireland germany france spain whatever but but what i'm saying is that in places
in america where you have white people that are inbred living in these areas in the appalachians
that they can be super low iq i'm just saying it's not about skin color because the white
supremacist comes along and just oh white people are just smarter but but you could go to a place
where it's a bunch of white people and they're inbreeding and their iqs are super low right
they're physically handicapped and physically damaged and and and so you know it's really just
that you don't want to be inbred in a lot of these muslim countries part of the reason why their iqs
are so low because look just look at a map of iq average iq across the world and it's dramatically
different you know somalia the average iq is like 68 or something whereas in america europe places
like that it's going to be around 100 and then it's like 68 in somalia or something you know
that's the thing that you see a lot on x right now why is the iq so low in somalia well you know
you have islam which involves inbreeding number one but then you also just have bad nutrition
poverty just you know just just it's just like a failed state in a lot of ways and so if you're
growing up in this in this bad environment of you know bad nutrition your mom's getting bad
nutrition when she's pregnant with you and then you're not having access to education
your your your whole religion is based on bragging about how the founder of your religion
is illiterate and mohammed's this wonderful illiterate guy so then it's like an illiterate
look up the 10 most illiterate countries in the world and they're muslim countries but to get back
to what i was originally saying about the spanish the reason i was bringing that up is because you
know when you think about like the nazis and eugenics and things like that you know obviously
that's wicked because we shouldn't be breeding people like cattle or breeding people like dogs
or something and say oh well you know we need to only allow these certain people to breed and these
people can't breed because you know if you thought about it from like a totalitarian dystopia
perspective you could think of like a state where certain people aren't allowed to procreate
because we need to get rid of their bad genes they're not smart enough or they're not athletic
enough or you're not allowed to have kids because you have problems or whatever but but in in reality
though it what you could do to fix those things is just if those people would just stop inbreeding
and start eating healthy food and living a normal healthy life and marrying people you know from
outside the family over time their genes would be purified it would get fixed you would fix those
problems over time and the better genes would emerge and and and so you know you don't need to
just throw people in the trash is my point is that basically you could fix the genes you could purify
the genes over time so even if the spanish you know had that concept in a pre-scientific kind of
an idea of hey we can purify these genes over the course of a couple generations you know there is
like some truth to it that you know if people have genetic abnormalities then you know marrying
outside the group and being healthy you know after a few generations you could have some really smart
health so you're saying there's hope for the muslims and the jews if they just get saved become
a christian and actually marry someone that's a lot different than them you could purify those
genetics over time it's it's it's going to get better you know and it's going to be fine i want
to let ben ask if you he wants to put some chat some chat comments in here and then i want to
play a video you brought up somalia uh so i'm going to bring up this video in a minute but
what are our chat comments saying well before we even got into the discussion on inbreeding
we had urbanic ryan 06 in the chat room say muslims marry their first cousins have lowest iq
baptist christian says royal families in europe had a lot of problems from inbreeding so did
ancient egypt and they had a lot of diseases from it and so yeah there's definitely been uh
agreement there's agreement in the chat room but i'm but also just to add a little commentary is
that there's there's ever been observable you know abnormalities and deformities that have resulted
from inbreeding and had a good comment he said tim waltz brought in all the somalians because
they make him feel smart so that's that's a pretty legit comment there um so let's yeah this video
and get some thoughts though i want to play this video because this is what you see online and
it is real that in africa they have something different going on let's play this video
i don't know what's up with this is this is people in africa that are in like these remote tribes
seeing a mirror for the first time that's kind of crazy isn't it wow all right so they don't
really know how to react now here's the thing you're saying this isn't an iq thing this is a
culture issue right ben i think the link between skin color and iq is not is yeah i would say it's
it's predominantly environmental cultural etc i don't think that we could say that somebody
who has a certain skin color is just genetically predisposed no matter what and and that it would
have been the same had their environmental or cultural surroundings been different hopefully
that makes sense. Andrew Gwynn says what part of London is this? If this guy's mom if you maybe
pass ranch and clean up what i said pastor Shelley so it makes me interrupt him because
go ahead he's super quiet on my end for some reason i don't know why like ben sounds normal
to me and and pastor Shelley's really quiet but but basically like you know if if this guy's mom
had actually eaten healthy food while she was pregnant with him and then he grew up eating a
you know a healthy diet and learning how to read at a young age and studying and going to school
you know that yeah maybe this guy's not going to be an engineer or something but he could still be
he'd be at a much higher intelligence than what he's at living in this primitive culture
you know in an unhealthy and an abnormal environment okay but yeah obviously they're
well apart from inbreeding arguably we don't even know what these people's potential is right
i mean they're not it's not like they're getting to exercise their potential here
so now you sound loud to me by the way it's okay good so it's not necessarily fair
but at the same time it is an observed reality people in africa without you know the same
culture and technology are not inventing things they're not so the question is why the question
the question is why but i want to play another video because i think this is important i don't
think we can play the other video of this this black guy being interviewed i think we played
it before in the past but you know i want to get that thought and i'll give my crew here's the thing
while you're tuning up the video is just what it is that you know inbreeding is only part of the
story okay evolution is only part of the story and obviously when we say evolution obviously we
believe in the biblical creation account of the bible we're talking about micro evolution and
obviously evolution is playing a role obviously um education's playing a role nutrition's playing
a role it's a whole bunch of different things i mean in order to have these abysmal iq's
where the average iq in maritania is 58 or something or 68 in somalia or you know 70 over
here 77 and then you look at europe and it's like all around 100 and you look at america and it's
100 you look at you know east asia and it's you know japan's 105 or 106 or something like obviously
there's a difference the question is what's driving it and i would argue that it's not one thing
that's driving it it's a whole bunch of different things that are driving it environmental factors
you know education factors nutrition and genetics inbreeding like all of those things and some of
these places with the really low IQ it's just a perfect storm of just bad factors that are that
are just driving well i want to bring another one too is the spiritual forces so we got natural
selection the point is you could fix these people you could fix you could fix somalia if they would
become christians if they would start getting literate and eat a balanced diet and be educated
and not inbreed and not do those things and you know you you could bring up that iq well i think
an individual i think an individual can be an exception to every category period i think that
there could be someone from somalia that could be the smartest person ever you could have a white
person that's the most athletic person ever you could have a japanese person that's super tall
i mean look at showtime the guy in you know that's playing for the la dodgers he's arguably one of
the greatest baseball players to ever play he's from japan and japan's not known for having
just tons and tons of professional baseball players but he is and they're actually really
into baseball yeah but i'm just saying like let's be honest yeah the the top baseball players of
all time are not just a list of japanese players he's an exception when it comes to that particular
category i'm not saying that obviously cuba has lots of baseball fans and stuff but you know
there's a lot more cubans in the uh i believe that we could just fact check this but i guarantee
there's probably more you know people from the caribbean playing in the major league
baseball than there is japanese but i i don't know at the end of the day when it comes to
these forces those spiritual forces are also at play and i want to get this this clip from this
guy because he kind of brings us up at the end of the clip but let's see what this guy has to say
created by us to describe something we're confused about so you're saying black folks created that
name white supremacists that's correct from africa from africa because we are just amazed by the
things they've done well we describe them always by inventions when you take a toilet so he's
talking and he's moving like oh my god because yes my people are not sophisticated you know why
would we call a white person a white a white supremacist if you know well i guess i think
it's because we were enslaved no not not it is just observing the mere industrialization of their
environment which we haven't done that's all they can command water from far away through tubes
into their bedrooms we can even fetch a bucket of water from the next lake you'll be drowned
they can put electricity we never had one in africa they have airplanes fly over us it's amazing
everything they've done is the reason my people say these people are superior not because of
slavery they came to colonizers and they brought things we have never seen before they gave a king
a mirror and he was dancing and sold his people away they brought guns we have never seen boom
kill somebody right away you know what they used to do in the Congo they put dynamite in the rocks
and then they hide the switch and then when they point their finger boom and the Congolese till
today they call the white men kibum the sound of the dynamite and then they go down and they go
like this if they're not superior why do you see every picture when the white men arrive in africa
were bowing to them the portuguese in my own town kelly ordered his people as soon as the portuguese
showed up everybody was bowing we have never seen a gun kill a human being we have never seen a
mirror we have never seen a radio tuning and somebody speaking from england the queen's voice
so for us all these things this form must be really superior and close to god they used to
have a joke in god that when god said let's pray the white men opened his eyes the black people
were covering his eyes so the white men saw how god created the world that's why they are so good
at what they do and i'm telling you these are folklore from which we grew up if anyone told
that white people came to africa to tell us their superior it's a lie they never said
so again this guy brings up this idea that hey the white man from some of these people's
perspective is just closer to god and you know again some of these things are not necessarily
prevalent in today i know you go to africa you go to major cities they're gonna have cars they're
gonna have buildings they're gonna have a lot of technology but that's obviously been brought to
them through a lot of colonization and you kind of have to ask this question you know why is certain
parts of the world colonizing other parts of the world like why did that happen and i would say
that there's got to be a spiritual force that's not only you know we've talked about some biological
forces natural selection we talked about just other geographic you know relation issues maybe
you know some places are more predisposed to be lazy or hard working but also there's got to be
a spiritual element here that you know where the where god is where the spirit of the lord is
there's liberty you know you look at places that are some of the most horrific places live in the
world today it's the places where christianity is the least free i mean north korea has got to be
one of the most horrific places to ever live right now uh china any of these total tali
totalitarian communist regimes some of the worst places to live as far as freedom is concerned
maybe not necessarily industrialized perspective but just from a freedom perspective so you know
what do you what do you think about this pastor anderson from a spiritual forces as well like is
there also some element of civilization technology any of that related to the spiritual forces at
play here too yeah and i would say that christianity explains a lot more of white people's success than
the fact that they're white that's why i you know i don't like to make it about race because i like
i don't think it's helpful to make it about race you know i think i think it's more important that
we focus on religion and if you think about it yeah historically christianity is more prevalent
in europe than in sub-saharan africa and obviously yeah now missionaries have brought the gospel to
sub-saharan africa now there's tons of say born-again christians in sub-saharan africa
but historically that wasn't really necessarily the case you know you got a lot of just you know
pagan witchcraft kind of religions and then you know just other places in this world have also
been ungodly india has been hindu you know east asia has been buddhist the native americans they
had their pagan satanic religions and everything like that obviously christianity is the only true
religion obviously god gives to a man that is good in his sight wisdom and so yeah we have
christianity being a driving force for modern western civilization and so a lot of that is
because we're christian and and if people convert to christianity it doesn't matter red yellow black
and white they can be intelligent successful hard-working industrious productive people
and and here's the thing when you when you think about in america today the races that we have
today in america right we have red and yellow black and white in america that have been here
for a long time okay now obviously if some muslim somalian immigrant just fresh off the boat
is as dumb as frick that's not really going to shock us because he's coming from this muslim
crap hole country and whatever but but here's the thing most black people in america that have been
here for a long time have already mixed with white people anyway you know because we've all
and we we all probably if we went back far enough these these white supremacists are in denial like
oh i'm just pure white all the way back or something but it's just that's just denial
we all have lots of ancestors we're all mixed i mean they'll say jews aren't white and then
they'll say they have this perfect white ancestor people think on it's funny because people people
who are stupid think they're smart is what i've noticed in life the stupider people are the
smarter they think they are and these these these white supremacist retards claiming to just be
pure 100% white it's like they don't understand the math and they don't understand the science
and that's why they need to go watch our documentary marching to zion and watch the
20 minute scene where i show the math on genetics and family tree and show how if you you know you
have two parents you have four grandparents you have eight great grandparents it's exponential
right so how many grandparents do you have two squared how many great grandparents two to the
third power how many great great grandparents two to the fourth power okay so you go back 10
generations or say about 300 years and you're we're talking two to the tenth power right so
we're talking about like a thousand plus right 1024 ancestors you're going to have 10 generations
back you go back 20 generations about 600 years you're going to get over a million you know and
like i've probably already gone over the head of some of these white supremacists even though this
is really basic like algebra one level stuff here but you have millions and millions of ancestors
just within the last thousand years alone you're going to tell me that of all those millions of
ancestors they're all just as white as snow i mean it's just stupid and makes no sense i mean
everyone is i do want to i want to challenge that idea though i want to say this is it possible for
anybody on the earth today to have basically their descendants are just basically all from
jaypeth and his wife or from ham and his wife or sham and his wife absolutely not that's that's
stupid and absurd because first of all sham ham and jaypeth all lived together for a hundred years
after the flood and i guarantee you that people are marrying their cousin more than they're marrying
their sibling and so if you're a child of jaypeth you're marrying one of sham's kids you're marrying
one of ham's kids they're totally intermarried and what's funny is the people like oh the jews are
this isolated group that only marries within itself or that's funny because every single bible story
start to finish abraham isaac jacob 12 tribes in egypt coming out of egypt judges monarchy they are
always intermarrying with the heathen over and over again every single time i mean joseph himself's
wife is egyptian moses marries an ethiopian i mean it's just constant intermarriage well guess what
that's what human beings have always done okay you can you can even have a society that says we
don't marry outsiders guess what somebody's going to and human beings love to travel human beings
are explorers there have always been missionaries traders explorers that have gone around sailing
here and there and everywhere and mixing and all of our dna is mixed and we're all mixed together
and and to think that you have people that are just totally just one thing anybody who is that
inbred is going to be deformed and stupid okay so the point is at some point at some point there's
got to be some diversification though right like at some point you kind of have like i mean the
japanese people kind of have a certain look the chinese people had a certain look especially if
we go back 100 years it seems like while it's not like everybody's the exact same i'm not saying
there isn't some genetic diversity no but but but but the point is that here's the thing first of
all japan is the most extreme example of isolation you could pretty much think of because they made
a big point to be isolated but obviously there's total intermarriage between japanese and chinese
and koreans or like you're gonna tell me that these people aren't connected guess what they are
you know there have been times when japan was really closed off but other times when it was a
lot more open and when they're colonizing china and colonizing korea and all these different places
you know there's been mixing throughout history obviously yeah you you have you know white people
and black people but look at black people in america and then look at black people in africa
you know the black people in america are usually a lot lighter skin and there's a reason why they're
lighter skin because they are more mixed in with white people i want to be it's just yeah i want
to like the indians like the native americans like the native americans in arizona the navos
i was up soul winning on the navo reservation and i'm preaching the gospel's navo girl and she's
saying oh the white man this the white man that i said hold out your arm she held out her arm i
held my arm up to her arm and i was darker than her and i said do you believe that you're 100
navajo or do you believe that maybe in the last 400 years that we have lived together white people
and navos have lived together in arizona for 400 years do you think that maybe some of your ancestors
are white people which is why you're even lighter than i am like she had some navajo features but
she was white also and she's like no i'm just 100 percent navajo i'm just purely navo that's just
stupid i mean it's just yeah again i agree with you with an american like from an american
perspective there's so much more mixing than we probably realize but like am i going to really
say that japanese south korean people just have this just like endless african genealogy of like
somalians and ethiopians no but i'll guarantee you i'll guarantee you that they that they have
intersected somewhere along the way with black people maybe we'll go back really far but i don't
think you'd have to go back super duper far no i don't so you think that you think okay let's
just go back 500 years you think there's a lot of cross-section it would only take think about it
it would only take one black guy marries a korean and has a mixed child right and then basically
that person just reintegrates into korea and then that dna just spreads to the whole system
but it's not going to spread to the whole system it's only going to spread to
a certain percentage of the i mean it's it can it could be a super small percentage
okay but that's one example and then another example comes in all i'm saying is it's it's
like dropping a drop of ink into a glass of water or something as soon as you bring in foreign dna
you know what i mean it's gonna just spread into the population what seems like to me like you
take like spanish you take the spanish right they come and they mix with the indigenous peoples
in america and they and they almost in my opinion kind of create their own classification of new
people like mexicans like it's not like mexicans exist prior to the europeans basically conquering
a lot of americans mexicans are a product of intermarriage between the white spaniards
and the indigenous people right they mix together and the product is a quote-unquote mexican right
so what i'm saying though is that then they kind of continue that lineage and it's like a lot of
them are kind of marrying each other and they just continue to be mexican but like obviously you also
had some africans mixing in with them so you have some yeah and it's easy it's easy to pull out like
japan as an example or something but you know what who cares about japan you know we're in
america we're talking about america we're talking about countries that are near us everything you
bring up the most extreme example of just weird isolation but even then there's 127 million people
in japan and they weren't isolated the whole time for the last 500 years and there are people
coming and going and there's been mixing and there's people who got in and out and mix well
i want to make i want to make one more comment about japan but let me say this about about
you know uh america and mexico okay well let me let me finish this japan thought so you can do
that i fact-checked myself there are 34 cuban players in the mlb and 12 japanese so there's
about three times as many cubans in the mlb than the japanese and i know japanese like but again
but here's the thing about that though why would japanese people play major league baseball in
america japanese people are living in japan you know everybody wants to play in america i mean
japanese people again are an outlier because there's like 100 out of 128 million people who
speak japanese 127 million of them live in japan they're like the least people to go and and
emigrate somewhere else i would think an even an even bigger outlier would probably be north korea
though just based off of how isolated that country is and like you're not even allowed to leave
legally that's true but that's only very recently though in whereas in history and like japan spent
hundreds of years being closed off and and trying to be close yeah and there's a lot of places are
like that australia doesn't have a huge black population you have india doesn't have a huge
african population made of intermingling with it most of asia when we talk about china korea and
japanese like these these these groups of people are definitely keeping themselves but of course
to your point you have the mongolian empire stretching across huge geographies probably
caused lots of mixing throughout that period of time you obviously have the trade dragging
people everywhere at different times throughout history the mongolian empire connected you know
china all the way to europe and there's all kinds of cross-pollination that happened during that
time that would have mixed in these different groups and the thing is like you know if we just
think about our part of the world because it's always easy to talk about some other distant part
of the world that that nobody knows about or that people could because we all know because we all
know more about the history of north america and europe than we know about like the history of
korea china and japan so it's easy to just make these claims about japan or make claims about the
history of china and korea you know because it's it's going to be harder to fact check you you know
when we're talking about stuff that the audience isn't familiar with here's what the audience is
familiar with canada us mexico south america europe west coast of africa now let's think about that
the black slaves were brought to all these places you had the transatlantic slave trade coming into
the caribbean coming into canada north america you know mexico there are black people in all of
these places europeans had black slaves caribbean people us mexico right i'm just i agree i agree
i have no idea what the history is according according to grok i said how many africans are
migrating to japan and it said almost zero before 1990 or i'm sorry 1900 so according to
the hive mind of ideas but but but see again who cares the point are we arguing with japanese
people online no we're arguing with a white guy from freaking nebraska or you know or whatever
from idaho claiming i have no black ancestors yeah exactly that's the point is i'm saying
millions and millions of black people have lived amongst us and with us for centuries
and if you go back 500 years you have just a million ancestors and so yeah some of them are
the black people it's just a fact well again what people you know to point to that i'm not saying
this but they're the ones who just don't understand the math and the science their genealogy i think
i think again i think there's there's truth on both sides of this because number one i think
that some people in america could probably point to both their mother and father side
and kind of point to quite a few immigrants and that they they came fresh off the boat from europe
and it is possible they didn't have much mingling but then you also have people like patrick mahomes
and tiger woods and some of these people yeah but i'm just saying like you could have people
like patrick mahomes or whatever let's just say they married another white person or something
like it would only it doesn't seem like it takes that many generations to get to a point where
you couldn't even tell it all like there's no way to tell it takes three or four generations
and it's gone like for example famously you know thomas jefferson and a black woman produced a
daughter i but don't quote me on this but if i recall thomas jefferson's daughter is like half
black half white that he you know he had like a a child out of wedlock with a slave or something
and you know she looks pretty white if she marries a white guy you're not even going to know after a
couple generations you're just going to think this is a white person and you're never going
to know in a million years that there was a black ancestor there okay same thing he had he had two
he had two black daughters yeah well there you go so look at obama okay obama's mom is white as snow
right but if obama is married to a black person has a black child and then that black person
marries another black person you're not going to realize that there's a white person right there
and it's the same thing when some of these athletes that you put on the screen that are
half black and half white if that person married a white person and then their kid married a white
person you're never gonna think oh there's a black ancestor there and that's where these white
supremacists claiming oh i have no black ancestors it's stupid because if the black ancestor were
even just four generations back you'd never know it five generations back it's probably not going
to be expressed and here's the thing you we've all known those people where they just have like that
they'll be like people who have like one kid that just looks a lot different than the rest of their
kids yeah and i'm not talking about a non-paternity event like no no i i agree still they still look
like their dad in other ways but racially like like for example you know i'm thinking of a
particular family where you know you have the the dad is very dark hispanic you know because he's
got like some portuguese mixed in and probably some some slaves mixed in there back there too
you know and and so it's like you have a really dark dad and the mother's white and so all the
kids look like they're like brown they're like latino half brown you know half white but then
there's just one child that's just white as snow and you'd never know that her dad right is this
dark she just i mean i i've even seen it where both parents are pretty white and the child is
a little darker than both their parents and and it's definitely you know it's their child it's
not like it's not their child or you could have the coming from a grand it could be coming from
a great-grandparent or grandparent but if you but but here's the thing if you if you go enough
generations because here's another thing that like white supremacists will bring up is like oh pretty
soon white people are going to be extinct and and we're gonna like they'll use this this illustration
of like well if you just take all the crayons and melt them all together everybody just becomes
brown so like if we all if we racially mix we're all just going to turn into tiger woods basically
right we're all just going to look the same but that's not true because you could you could
basically make someone white again in a few generations you could make someone totally black
again in a few generations right so somebody's like super mixed and they marry a white person
who marries a white person who marries a white person boom they're totally white or exactly marry
a black person who marries a black person and they go totally black or go back to being japanese
chinese korean whatever you know here's the thing is that you know everybody's just like oh korea
oh china oh japan or whatever be in whatever here's the thing why is it that in movies they
constantly use chinese actors to play japanese people and vice versa in hollywood movies they
will use chinese actors to play japanese people vice versa and mix and match but supposedly they're
so freaking different well then how come the viewer can't even tell the difference he just
pissed off both of them right now because they you want to piss off those people they'll say like
tell them they look the same and they somehow lose their minds okay but then but then what
i'm saying is true though that they will use chinese actors to play japanese people in films
yeah and and nobody's just like well that's clearly not a japanese that person's obviously
chinese you know here's the whole writing system in japan comes from china china's writing system
went to korea and that's interesting but how did it how did it get there all right so i have a fact
toy question a massive amount of japanese culture comes straight from china all right so let's let's
put you to the test jackie chan japanese or chinese bin chinese obviously okay that was
easy japanese movies i mean that's a stupid question that was easy oh i don't know obviously
genes have been spread throughout the world especially in the modern era when you have
air travel and things like that happening but i like the point though because you look at these
these again these white supremacist types and they want to act like they're these purebred
oh man generations generations it's like bro if you just look at your genealogy you'll see
that there's been mixing you're not as purebred as you actually think you are there's been mixing
going on for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years so like how about this stop obsessing
over the color of your skin and get it get an actual hobby is what i would say yeah because
i've noticed that the people who take the most glory and boast about being white the most
typically have the least achievements themselves you know it's funny they'll sit there and talk
about all the great achievements of white people but it's like bro what have you achieved you know
exactly and plus what does the bible say the bible says that we should not glory in our flesh let him
that glorieth glory in the lord we should not boast about our flesh we should not be prideful
about our ethnicity or our flesh we should be proud of the lord jesus christ our savior proud
of christianity proud of the bible proud of our christian culture yes but just glorying in the
color of your skin or putting someone else down because of the color of their skin is it's not
profitable and so here's the thing even going back to your mario kart illustration at the beginning
say oh these people are stronger oh these people are smarter oh what's the point of talking about
that or fixating on that because all you're doing is just making people feel bad about themselves
or you're just making people feel uh you know too too good about themselves and and so like
here's here's what i would say to the white supremacists of this world because obviously
the reason you're even having this broadcast is because of the fact that this this white
supremacist mentality is on the rise it's popular it's trending online you have all this racism
that's just going crazy right now here's what i would say to white people who buy into this
this stupid ideology i would say what do you think is going to help black people in america be better
telling them that they're stupid or or treating them as equals and elevating them and getting
them involved in christianity getting them involved in in learning and whatever you know it it because
i'm trying to put myself in their shoes because they think they're better than black people so
i'm like okay if you think you're better than black people let's try to help black people improve
that i don't think they want to help them prove to just say we're better you suck they just want
to get them out yeah but but at the end of the day like let's just say someone is lower iq than you
that that doesn't mean that they're worse what good is it to tell them that yeah again why bring that up
yeah but don't we don't we pretty much extenuate every trait like someone's why would i say to
anyone why would i ever say to anyone for any reason you're low iq and i'm high iq i'm inherently
smarter than you you're inherently dumb like when would that ever be an appropriate thing to say to
anyone for any reason okay but wait a minute i'm just i'm just i'm not saying like that direct
statement but okay doesn't the apostle paul bring up the greeks and the barbarians is he is he like
classifying people to the wise and to the unwise is he classifying groups of people like this group
is a little bit smarter than this group i mean i'm just saying when does when does he say when
does he say hey the greeks are a little smarter than the barbarians doesn't he literally say to
the greeks and barbarians into the wise and unwise isn't he contrasting those i don't think he's
making an exact parallel there now i mean i think that's your interpretation but i don't think that
you could say for sure that when he says oh i'm a debtor both to the greeks and to the barbarians
both to the wise and the unwise i don't think he's saying greeks are wise
and barbarians doesn't he say greeks seek after wisdom he says that the jews seek a sign the
greeks seek wisdom but we preach christ crucified he's just saying that the the greeks are interested
in intellectual pursuits the jews are interested in the supernatural but i don't know i don't think
that he is saying i think that that's a little bit of a leap to say that he's classifying greek
people as the smartest people i don't think it's a leap i don't think it's a leap i think
it's just what the text is saying but are greek people the smartest people have they ever been
the smartest people necessarily i'm just saying at that time is their country right now isn't
doing very well no i'm just saying at that time the apostle paul is identifying groups of people
and saying hey this greek group is the wise group and this barbarian group's the unwise group and
it's not so much like ethnicity i mean i mean to be clear though the the word barbarian is is is
in that context you know of the greek language 2000 years ago the word barbarian is anybody who
doesn't speak greek is a barbarian so it's literally okay but again i'm not sure but the
barbarians are an uncivilized group of people it doesn't really make sense to say that greek
speaking people are the only intelligent people and then everybody else again because there's
always exceptions but i'm just saying like there's the civilized the uncivilized we're not talking
about exceptions we're talking about the fact that there is major civilization that is not greek
speaking at that time that he's classifying as barbarian everybody who's not speaking greek is
classified as a barbarian is what i'm trying to tell you okay but but again is the apostle paul
gonna literally again so also most of the white people in europe were barbarians by that logic
okay because remember he's on the island of malta you know and people can debate whether
it's talk about the barbarous people they don't seem very civilized they're white people though
he doesn't i didn't say it was ethnicity i didn't say it was it was limited limited to like only
white people are smart and black people but here's my point like that's that's the interjection that's
that's confusing this i'm saying you could look at a group of people and say this group of people
is wise and this group of people is unwise and and look i think he's just looking at the greeks and
saying these people are are super into philosophy and thinking and learning and academics and so
that's the you know so yeah you maybe he's making that point but what i'm saying is that most of
the people that would go on to become some of the smartest people like germanic people wouldn't you
say that like okay let's just let's just let's just prove this point because i'm sick of arguing this
point the the bible clearly says that the unsaved or the heathen are going to look to the children
of israel and they're going to say what a wise and understanding people because of the fact that
they had god's law as their law and they're going to see the benefits to the wisdom that they have
from the bible so like if we can't classify or i objectively notice like certain groups of people
are smarter than others then it totally eradicates all the benefits that christianity brings with it
no what you're what you're saying you just you just defeated your own point right there
no i didn't basically yes you did because because basically the whole point why people
are going to look at them and think that they're smart is because they're worshiping the lord and
following the bible not like oh you guys are just really high iq people over there in israel
we're low iq in our country that because the whole conversation the whole thing that this is about
is i'm saying it makes no sense to say this nationality or this ethnicity you guys are low
iq you guys are dumb we're smarter than you i'm saying that's a prideful arrogant thing to say in
any context and that's why we shouldn't focus on that even if it's true it shouldn't be emphasized
and then you're saying oh the bible does that but does it though when the bible's saying basically
like oh you know people are going to look to you and say oh because you guys are christian
you know you guys are smart for being christian not like you guys are high iq i just think that
that's yeah but again if we look at muslims and we say hey you guys are low iq because you're
marrying your first cousins and you have a dumb screwed up religion and christians are having a
better iq because we're not marrying our first cousins and following god's commandments like
that could have a tangible benefit and i'm not saying yeah but that's different it's different
to say arabs are dumb versus muslims are dumb that's the distinction that i'm making i could
say mormons are dumb mormons are as white as none i could just say mormons are dumb because
mormonism is dumb we're all going to get up and say atheists are dumb because the bible says the
fool that said in his heart there is no god so that's totally different though than saying
oh this nationality is dumb that's what i'm saying doesn't isn't helpful do you see do you see the
distinction i make if you have a if you have a black kid listening to a podcast where he's hearing
hey your ethnicity your your ethnic background makes you genetically predisposed to be less
intelligent you know what bothers me with that is it's going to demoralize them and potentially
dissuade them from wanting to acquire wisdom acquire knowledge but why would it do a characteristic
that they can't change about themselves because at the end of the day if someone says all right
jonathan your iq is 120 it's not 150 or let's say it's 100 or let's say it's 95 i don't care
what the number is why would i not still want to reach my full potential no matter what the
number is i think i should still gain as much wisdom as i possibly can here regardless of what
my quote iq is but because of the no because you're forgetting that if somebody tells you
you're bad at math then you're gonna spend the rest of your life saying i don't like math i'm
not good at math i don't do math see let's come back to reality for a second you're you're thinking
in this idealized thing where everybody's just gonna try their best no matter what false if you
tell someone you're not good at this you're not predisposed you're not cut out for this you're
never gonna make it as this people are just gonna give up and throw up their hands and quit it's
if you treat people like they're smart they'll be smarter they even did scientific studies where if
a teacher got up at the beginning of the class and said this is really hard when i'm about to teach
you versus said this is really easy when i'm about to teach you they taught the same thing the same
way and when they were told you can do this it's easy you're gonna do well they did better and when
they were told oh this is really hard i hope you guys can figure this out they struggled and did
bad so so my point is you know even if these things are true because a lot of people will be
like oh yeah well it's true you know i'm i'm racist but it's true or whatever it's like you
know well i don't want to be told that i'm that i'm weak i don't want to be told that i'm dumb
i don't want to be told that i'm this or that or the other because of my race because it's like
it's just not helpful you know that's my point is just you know let's just well i again i think
the messaging is important same and let the cream rise to the top on its own but let it let people
be judged on their own merits and treat everyone the same and let's let's even if everyone's not
the same we might as well just go into it just assuming that people are the same and let them
prove to us that they're smart or let them prove to us that they're dumb but why not if i if i
meet somebody if i if a guy walks into my church if a black guy walks into my church i'm not going
to be like well statistically this guy is going to be x and y and z or you know or if a white guy
walks in i'm just i'm not going to just go through these demographics and stuff i'm just going to be
like this guy you know is just a blank slate and i'm just going to you know judge this guy on his
merits i don't think that we should prejudge that person based on what other black people are like
or what other white people are like what other chinese people are like that that's my point
okay well i think prejudice i think prejudice exists no matter what though right so insurance
is going to charge me more money for being male than female right so if i'm if i'm an 18 year old
boy sure then they're going to charge me more than if i'm an 18 year old girl isn't that true
yes because i'm more rich and if i'm 20 they're going to charge me more than if i'm 40 right
right ages so what if what if the insurance company did that with a race and what if the
insurance company is like oh well you know your particular race is involved in more car accidents
so we're going to charge you more because you're this race or whatever you know what i mean like
like that would never fly people would get mad about that yeah but there's real racial profiling
that's happened in america that was taught to police academies and at the end of the day though
i think that there's overlapping in these categories that's a miscategorization that's
a tight coupling right so you bring up the somalians that are being mass imported into
minneapolis it's like okay well they the reason why these people are dangerous is not because
they have black skin but because they're coming from somalia and because they're coming from an
uncivil uncivilized area and because they have a false religion they are a dangerous demographic
and so then people start prejudging people so if you live in minneapolis and you see black people
walking down the street you maybe have a heightened sense of risk of danger of just whatever is going
on but hold on hold on that's not necessarily fair to every black person but i'm just saying like it's
not because of their skin color but again it's still an identifying marker right that's a tight
couple let me let me jump in and say this because i disagree because this is what you'll hear white
supremacists often say like well if you pull up to a gas station at night are you going to feel more
comfortable if it's a block if there's a couple of black guys standing there a couple white guys
standing this is what's stupid about that is because if i pulled up to a gas station at night
and there was a clean cut black guy with his pants pulled up wearing a belt looking like a normal
classy person i would not be nervous at all i wouldn't be thinking about all these crime
statistics about black people if i pulled up and saw white guys sagging their pants
looking like thugs i would drive to the next gas station because look i'm the type of guy the bible
says that the prudent man foresees the evil and hides himself but the wick you know the foolish
simple whatever i'm quoting it wrong pass on or punish so i'm i'm for foreseeing the evil if i saw
derelict thug looking blacks at a gas station i would drive to the next gas station because i just
don't want to be around people like that i don't want to be mugged or in danger but i would do the
same thing if i saw white people that looked like scary criminals if i saw scary criminals
i'm going to the next gas station whereas i don't think that anybody if they just saw like a nice
black family at the gas station is going to be like oh man these people you know have such high
crime statistics and here's the thing there's a big difference between an american black person
and a samalian immigrant you know if i'm in minnesota and i see an african american person
that's clean cut dress normal versus some just total uncivilized looking non-english speaking
so barbaric in that sense right this barbaric samalian muslim they're going to stand out like
a sore thumb and i think that i can be upset about a samalian muslim heathen coming into our country
who's just uncivilized false religion doesn't want to assimilate maybe even can't assimilate
very well but then to turn around and then lump that person in with some black person whose
ancestors have been here for like 150 years or something you know and they're just born and
raised in america you know any black person who has their pants pulled up and is wearing a belt
and is a classy person i would not feel any different about that here's the thing wait wait
i want to agree with what you're saying because i agree with you said but here's here's one problem
and people have been bringing this up that people have figured this out and that there are some
groups gangs and dangerous groups that have identified this and so they have one person
dressed in a very normal casual manner to try and go over there and seem like the nice person
needing help and then a bunch of people jump them and again i'm not trying to say like hey
racial profiling is how we should live our lives but sometimes you know people have prejudices
because of stereotypes and they exist yeah but does that ever happen to you or anyone that
you've ever known in your life i'm just saying it's being brought up number one and number two
it's been never happened it's been constantly said online a lot and i feel like these these
these narratives are are kind of almost creating more racial prejudice than you know what i think
- I think the more likely situation is that some beautiful white girl is sent up to your car, "Hey, I need help." You know what I mean? And then there's some guy ready to jump through. - Some pimp. Yeah. - Some pimp. Yeah, exactly.
- I've never been approached by attractive women. This never happens. This is stupid. I would just shoot her. I'm just kidding.
- What if I get struck by lightning? You know? What if I get struck by lightning? What if I get eaten by a shark? I'm not going to swim in the ocean.
- The statistics are not going to be in favor of the comparison, but let's play this clip. We've run through the show quite a bit. I just want to play this clip and get some final thoughts here.
- I'm saying show me the classy looking black people that are criminals. Because whenever I see these mug shots of like, "Oh, look at these terrible people," they look like derelicts.
- Yeah. Play this clip.
- Play the clip.
- You've also said you don't want to live near black people. Let's take a listen to this clip.
- I'm a new generation of white person. I'm not living around blacks. Sorry.
You know, I want white kids, and I don't want my white kids bringing home black people to marry.
It's racial for me. And call me racist? Oh, very Christian of you. I don't give a fuck.
- Language warning.
- I mean, it couldn't be clearer, really. Unless you want to say that's another--
- Little late.
- But you're basically saying, "Yeah, I'm a racist." Aren't you?
- Uh, yeah. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
- You're fine with saying you're a racist?
- Totally. I think everybody's racist.
I think everybody, if we're being honest, is racist.
I think everybody--the only people that aren't racist
or pretend not to be are white people to their detriment.
Everybody else is racist.
- But you spent--early in the interview, you went--
really got aggrieved at the idea that your father was a racist.
You wanted to make him practically sure--
- Yeah, because my father's-- - He's not?
- Because my father doesn't share my same views on that.
- So he's the exception to the "everyone's a racist."
- Well, everybody's a little bit racist, you're right.
So maybe everybody.
The difference is you're attacking my father.
- Sounds like Piers kind of got him there a little.
- He really got him on this one.
I think that Piers had a lot of bad takes on this interview, honestly.
- I didn't watch it.
- Occasionally, he really did kind of hold his feet to the fire on some of these.
And I felt like this was kind of a gotcha.
But I kind of want to hear your thoughts on this, Ben.
Did you see this clip before?
- No, this is the first time.
- So what did you think about that?
- Well, I think that Fuentes, again,
he's kind of just trying to be inflammatory on purpose.
But in terms of, like, is everybody racist?
To me, the level of racism that someone has
is going to be directly correlated to how carnal that they are.
And so the reason why people are just totally obsessed with skin color
has everything to do with the fact that
they just don't think about the world through spiritual lenses.
It's all just about white versus black,
green versus blue, yellow versus red.
These stupid superficial characteristics that in my mind don't matter.
So I mean, that's my reaction to it, is I just think that yeah,
carnal people are racist, sure, but that is,
I think it evaporates when people get into the Word of God
and actually become spiritual, go out soul winning,
and start to care about the things of God.
That's the way I look at it.
What do you think of this, Pastor Anderson?
Yeah, I mean, I obviously totally disagree with him
because I would have no issue living around black people.
I have a problem with thugs, gang bangers, the hip hop culture,
but I don't have a problem.
I love black people.
I have no issue.
You know, and when I went to Bible college,
I specifically chose the ministry that was the black ministry
where we went into Chicago and we did all of our soul winning
and ministry and preaching.
And I spent every Saturday and Sunday in South Chicago
where it's a hundred percent black, like it's very segregated.
Everybody's black.
And I got along with black people well.
I like black people.
I've had no issue with that.
But at the same time, I absolutely hate, you know, criminality.
I hate violence.
I hate, you know, stealing.
I hate the hip hop culture.
I hate rap music.
I don't like the sagging of the pants
and just the derelict attitude.
You know, so, you know, obviously I'm not just sitting here saying,
"Oh, that's all wonderful."
No, it's horrible.
There's a lot of really bad things about that culture.
But at the same time, what I don't think is fair,
going back to my insurance analogy from earlier,
where I said, "Hey, should we charge people different car insurance based on their race?"
How would you feel if you're just this totally, like, straight-laced, classy black person
and then just because you're black, you're paying more
because you're being lumped in with some gang-banger thug
that you don't have anything in common with culturally?
That's not you. You know what I mean?
And so I think that you're right.
There are different kinds of people in this world,
and we do classify people into categories,
but I don't think that they should be classified based on race, you know?
- Well, I agree. - We should categorize people based on religion
and based on culture, based on mentality, you know?
- I think something to think about is the argument that Flint is bringing up,
because he's saying he doesn't want to live in a black neighborhood or near black people,
and I think the way that you articulated that helps to bring some nuance here.
Like, it's not that you're against living in a black neighborhood,
but you don't want to live in a neighborhood where it's filled with degeneracy,
thugs, criminality, and unfortunately, in America,
there's probably very few situations where that's even in reality.
But like, we've been to Bahamas many times.
Many people from our church would visit there.
They would think, like, I would love to live here.
Like, living in the Bahamas would be a great place to live,
and it's a predominately black.
Yeah, it's a predominately black island and country.
And again, it feels safe.
It doesn't feel like inner city Chicago.
It doesn't feel like downtown Houston.
But Jamaica?
You never want to live in Jamaica?
No.
Kingston?
No.
Jamaica is horrible.
Scary.
I was there.
I've never been to Kingston.
The only place I've been to was Ocho Rios.
And I was like, man, I would never, I was like,
get me out of here.
Like, I did not like it at all.
I would love to live in the Bahamas around black people.
I would not want to live in Jamaica around black people
because it's the trashy, derelict drug culture
that I have a problem with.
So unfortunately, the sad thing is that in America,
most of your black neighborhoods are going to be
these high crime areas filled with drugs and gangs.
But it's, I don't want to,
it's not that I don't want to live there because they're black.
It's that I don't want to live there because of the drugs
and the gangs and the violence and the graffiti.
And we could go to places in the world where the people are black
and where the people are nice. People like the Bahamas or whatever.
Yeah, it's the behavior.
It's the behavior that you're bringing up, that you have an issue with.
It's not simply just how they look, which would be retarded.
And as evidenced by the Bahamas.
Vast majority black.
And there's other places as well.
Even in DFW.
It's a culture issue.
I could think of places in DFW when I was going house shopping
where the neighborhood was majority black,
but the houses looked good and I could see myself living there.
So I don't have to necessarily also point to a foreign land
to make this point as well.
Or what about some white trailer trash?
What about just this trailer trash like white people?
There could be super derelict white neighborhoods
where you'd be scared to live in that.
Or what about scary Asian neighborhoods?
I've seen that.
I've been to white neighborhoods.
I've been to the white mobile home to go soul hunting
where it was dangerous and there was trash everywhere
and there were drugs and things that people would traditionally associate
with an inner city black area.
So to just make everything about skin color,
this is what I was saying earlier, making everything about skin color,
it's frustrating, it's carnal,
and I think it brings the level of intellect to discussions down
and oversimplifies things.
Well, see, I think what we're trying to do, though,
is we're trying to realize it's not a skin color issue.
It's a spiritual Christian issue.
And the reality is that unfortunately,
because of the way Christianity has spread itself throughout the world,
that a lot of times these skin colors have a correlation
to culture and Christianity.
And so for a lot of people, you know, you import people from Africa,
maybe they do have a different culture and religion.
You import people from India, they have a different culture,
they have a different religion.
You bring people from different parts of the world,
and they have these different height couplings.
And so oversimplification by these people being,
you know, want to be cool Nazis or something,
they don't understand that it's not really a skin color issue.
And so here's the problem, they're not going to solve the problem.
Because if you just eradicate people based on skin color,
that doesn't end up benefiting America or necessarily solve the problem.
Because arguably there's plenty of terrible people in America that are white.
Some of the worst people in America are white.
And Clinton, most of our leftists and Democrats are white.
Well, look at the liberal white women that people talk so much about.
It's the liberal white women that have the worst takes on everything.
And they're white.
And so I remember when I first got married, I was looking at different apartment complexes.
And this one apartment complex, the price was right, and it was a totally Asian neighborhood.
There weren't any Black people. It was all Asian.
But it seemed scary, because it seemed like there was some gang activity and whatever.
And I'm just like, I don't want to live here.
And I ended up moving into an apartment that actually, the apartment that I did move into,
because I was poor when I was first starting out, and my wife and I got married, we couldn't afford much.
And so we were in an apartment complex that actually had a bunch of Black people living in it.
Our next door neighbor right above us is Black. There were a bunch of Black people.
It had a good vibe. It didn't feel scary, whereas the Asian apartment down the street was super scary.
But I guarantee there are other places where it's different.
Well, again, let's isolate the skin issue, because people want to say, "Oh, America would be so great if it was white."
Okay, well, let's go back to the 1400s. And I know according to Joe Jones, it was a happy time for Christianity.
It was such a great time for Christianity in the 1400s.
Do you really want to go back to Europe? 1400s, 1500s? It's all white people.
But, you know, as a Bible-believing Christian, you would hate being in that period of time.
You would hate being—you have no freedom. You'd have—you're coming out of the Dark Ages, arguably.
I mean, just let's go through the Dark Ages. Again, another all-white period of time in Europe.
Oh, man, it's so great. Hey, lots of white people in Scandinavian countries
and northern parts of Europe were pagan Vikings. Bible-leaving Christians don't want to live
in that part.
I mean, the Vikings are gross. They're not bathing. They're all washing their mouths
out with the same spit bucket and everything. They had all these gross practices. There's
all kinds of literature on that, of what that culture was like, and it had some problems
because it's a pagan, godless, violent culture.
I'm just trying to say that just because you're surrounded by white people doesn't mean you're
going to be better off. There's been plenty of times throughout history where being surrounded
by white people could be a nightmare. At the end of the day, it's Christianity that causes
people to be blessed. Christianity that causes people to have safety.
Instead of saying, "I don't want to live around blacks. I don't want to live around black
people," why not just say, "I don't want to live in a high crime area. I don't want to
live around gangs. I don't want to live where there's graffiti. I don't want to live in
a trashy area." Because you know what's just as irritating as the black thugs that are
out there? How about all the white homeless people? Because you know what? I travel around
Phoenix and homelessness is epidemic and these are derelicts refusing to work. They're alcoholics.
They're drug addicts and guess what? They're 99% white, the ones that I see. Now I'm not
saying that that's an accurate statistic or something. I'm just telling you my perception.
When I drive to church, I drive down Chandler Boulevard, there's a white lady standing on
the corner every time and if it's not her, it's this other white guy. If it's not him,
it's this other white guy because I know all the bums because you see them. You drive the
same routes, see the same bums every day. And look, we do have a black homeless guy
that hangs around in our church parking lot right now. But you know what? There's tons
of white homeless people in Chandler, Awituki, Tempe. So these are, you know, white areas
or whatever, suburbia. And there's so many derelict white homeless people. Well, you
know what? I'm not comfortable with that. I'm not comfortable playing with my kids at
the park when there's a whole bunch of like white homeless people taking over the park.
And 25% of them statistically are sex offenders too.
Pastor Anderson dislikes homeless people so much. Not only does he not want to live near
them, he'll drag them miles away if he has to.
This is true.
I will drag you miles away from here.
I'm just saying, yeah, there are black and Hispanic homeless people, but is it just me
or most of the homeless people that we see white maybe just got into?
I think it's probably disproportionate white. I think atheists are disproportionate white.
I think leftists and Democrats. I don't know, actually. I guess there's a lot of black Democrats,
but at least in political power it seems like there's probably a disproportionate number
of Democrats that are white politicians. I think that whites definitely have their issues
too. They have their problems. In the chat, I've seen a lot of people bring this up, just
the idea of the Bible kind of downplays wisdom and intellect because it causes you to be
prideful. Let's just say objectively a group of people was smarter. That doesn't necessarily
make them better off. That's a point I tried to make earlier in the show, but obviously
being smarter could cause you to be very prideful. It could cause you to not want to get saved.
God makes wise the simple. So obviously no matter where you start out, God could use
somebody and give them a lot of wisdom and a lot of knowledge from reading the Bible.
So I don't want the show to seem like we're disparaging any group of people. To me, it's
more about highlighting strengths. When it comes to Mario Kart and stuff, it's just
some are faster, some have more maneuvering. Everybody has different strengths and weaknesses.
And I think that...
Well wouldn't you say that black people are more receptive to the gospel in general?
Absolutely.
Look, why did I choose the black ministry when I was in Bible college? Because black
people are receptive. I love witnessing to black people because they're receptive. Why
do we love to go to the Bahamas? Why do we love to go soul winning in Botswana or these
places? Because black people are receptive. I mean when I first moved to Phoenix, I started
Faith Forward Baptist Church and I'm knocking doors trying to reach people with the gospel.
I asked somebody, where's the black neighborhood? Because like I wanted to go soul winning in
the black neighborhood and they said well there really isn't a black neighborhood because
it's everybody's just mixed here whereas in Chicago is very segregated. You know what?
Black people are more receptive so guess what? You're going to have a bunch of white supremacists
bragging about how smart they are burning in hell for all eternity like Nick Fuente
is going to burn in hell freaking Roman Catholic and then you're going to have a bunch of just
black people that are you know these low IQ according to him or whatever that are actually
going to be in heaven and they have more wisdom than him because now they're saved they're
indwelled by the Holy Spirit they're reading the Bible you know they're going to be way
smarter and have way better takes about everything than Nick Fuentes and his stupid takes because
he's not saved so he's a fool because he's not saved a saved black man is going to be
smarter than Nick Fuentes any day of the week and again I'm not saying that black people
are inherently lower IQ because they're not because I've known black people that were
way smarter than I am I've seen black people go very far academically and be super smart
you know despite whatever statistics or averages or whatever that's why it's not fair because
you know humans are all different and there's going to be one and again to your point there's
no there's not really even a thing is like all black all white anyway so we just use
these categories as stupid labels but I do want to land the plane I appreciate our crew
for allowing us to have lots of different clips and videos and images again I want
to have this conversation I know it's a little bit uncomfortable conversation you know just
talk about some of these topics because we don't want anybody to feel like we're attacking
them or think negatively about them but at the end of the day like there are differences
in humanity it doesn't matter whoever you are you should always try to get wisdom and
that's through getting saved reading the Bible you should try to learn and grow I like passengers
attitude hey work on your weaknesses when you can but at the same time if you have a
strength in a certain part of your areas no problem leaning into that and using the God-given
talents that he's given to you if you are someone that's really smart and has a lot
of opportunity you need to use that for the kingdom of God you know travel the world preach
the gospel try to reach a lot of people if he's giving you a lot of money you know if
he's giving you ten talents you need to use those ten talents to reach people with the
gospel I don't think there's anything wrong personally with identifying hey this is a
ten-talent person a five-talent person I think that sometimes we as Americans need to recognize
we have a lot of privilege we've been given a lot of opportunity to travel the world again
live in a lot of intelligence wisdom money we should use that to our ability to go to
Africa to go to Caribbean go to Mexico go to these other places that are less civilized
and give them the gospel and try to get people saved it's not about a superiority complex
it's about hey recognizing you've been given a lot of opportunity here use that to your
full potential but I want to go around Robin and give you guys a last chance to comment
anything you want to say Ben is there anything you wanted to say about the show tonight or
final thoughts here yeah you brought in earlier that different religions are coupled with
different geographies and ethnicities a lot of the time and so when they're being imported
in they often bring those religions and they're bringing that culture with them but the reason
why the places that they're coming from are often total hellholes and just you know places
that nobody would ever want to go to especially Muslim countries, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran,
etc. hell I'll throw Lebanon into the mix as well it's again it's because of the religion
you know the Bible says the wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that
forget God that's why those places are in that state today and it's not because like
oh they're just Arab or something it's because of what their ethnicity is coupled with which
is Islam one of the most idiotic garbage false religions on the face of the planet and so
you made that point I heard I think Pastor Anderson talk about that as well and I just
wanted to hammer that home as we end the show tonight thank you for having me I appreciate
it.
Pastor Anderson any final thoughts you want to share?
Yeah I just you know I appreciate you having me on and I know that you and I don't see
exactly eye to eye on these things but I think in general at the end of the day we both love
Christ we both love the Bible we both love lost souls and we both love people red yellow
black and white we but we don't none of neither of us is racist or white supremacist or anything
like that and you know at the end of the day I'm just thinking about how you know oh who
which country has the highest average IQ oh it's Japan right because I looked it up and
it was Japan average is like 106 or something and I'm thinking to myself you know Japan
what about just how evil Japan has been throughout history I mean Japan did so many evil things
like leading up to World War II and during World War II just committing all these horrible
atrocities and then today you know Japan has all kinds of problems with just men being
weak and effeminate and like they they can't even approach girls to ask them out they they're
not even getting married they're not even having kids they're they're committing suicide
it's like look every and I know you agree with me on this pastor Shelley every nationality
has its pros and cons its strengths and weaknesses you know like you said with your Mario Kart
illustration and so there's more to life than IQ high IQ low IQ that doesn't make or break
you that doesn't determine who you are and you know what I consider myself a very educated
person. I am an intellectual by nature but I don't think that I have a high IQ. I've
never really been tested on my IQ but if I had to guess I would say that my IQ is probably
pretty average you know maybe slightly above average but I've met a lot of people that
were a lot smarter than me and pick things up way faster than me but the reason that
I'm educated is because I put a lot of work into studying you know and so who cares about
stupid IQ you know at the end of the day if you're in some death-worshipping Buddhist
cult and you have a high IQ it's not really gonna help when you're burning in hell it
doesn't really help when you're committing atrocities and mutilating people and doing
all these things so at the end of the day you know the thing that matters is not our
skin color it's not our ethnicity it is are we saved do we love the Lord you know are
we working hard are we following Christ are we following the Bible and you know what I
just have way more in common with saved Christians who are red yellow black and white than white
people who don't know Christ you know that's who I'm not going to have any common ground
with because what part hath Christ with Belial what part hath he that believeth with an infidel
what fellowship has light with darkness that's the dichotomy that we need to focus on and
I think it's unfortunate that we're even having this broadcast but I understand why you want
to have this broadcast and I agreed to come on the broadcast because I know this is a
huge issue right now everybody's talking about it and so we need you know we're bringing
the baptist bias to this conversation so I you know I understand but honestly I'm just
going to be honest it's not my favorite conversation I don't like it I don't think it's profitable
but I feel like we have to have this conversation simply because the Nick Fuenteses are out
there with all their dumb crap and so it needs to be like countered with some reasonable
conversation. Anyway thanks for having me on I appreciate it enjoyed it. I want to read
some comments and then I want to give some some final thoughts here. Thanks to our audience
we actually were smashing other podcasts that were live but for some reason Rumble just
won't show or put us on the front page even though we're just smashing other people's
view counts. But anyways we got WRLATX says awesome discussion greatly appreciated pastors.
Always Baptist says thank you pastor Shelley pastor Anderson and brother Ben great discussion.
Andrew Guinnon says the worst race in America will always be the 2001 Daytona 500. You know
why? Adela Lyle says Fuentes is a grifter fool. Baptist Christian says the internet
is the greatest equalizer for fools. Baptist Christian says God can take the most foolish
uneducated person and make them the wisest most intelligent person once they follow Christ.
Hey I like that comment. Adela says car insurance is different in New South Wales depending
on what town you live in and it's high crime count. That's pretty interesting. Hey J Roy
88 good point brother Ben. Hey you made a good point at some point so that's that's
a shout out to brother Ben. Just one but I'll take it. Exactly. Do you know why the 2001
NASCAR was the worst? I don't know why it was 2001 do you? Oh wow you're from Texas
I figured you knew about. I feel like all NASCAR is low IQ so I personally hate NASCAR
completely although some people say I have my favorite phrase that came from it let's
go brand. Let's go. There you go. Sorry for the Fuentes language this evening for any
of our viewers. Someone says K River says that's me Pastor Shelley my parents are lighter
skinned but I'm a little bit darker so someone in the chat says hey they're darker than both
of their parents. Honestly there was a lot of good discussion a lot of good questions
in there. Thanks to everybody who participated in the show. I just want to give my few thoughts
on why I have the show. I'm not so blackpilled on it but number one I want to have the show
because I want people to realize like race mixing is not a problem it's not a sin it's
not a bad thing and in fact in some cases it's yielded some of the greatest genetic
results that we've ever seen. I mean some of the greatest athletes are obviously coming
from mixed race situations and so I don't want people to think like they're inferior
or there's something wrong or your kids are going to be screwed up. You know a lot of
people are really down on interracial marriage. I've had people say hey I like everything
about your church except for you guys permit interracial marriage and you know that's just
a stupid low IQ viewpoint. I think it's a bad idea. You know most of America has a lot
of mixing even if it was quote all white it was coming from all kinds of different
parts of Europe and I think that was a good thing. You know really what makes people great
I believe is the Bible and Christianity and I think we need to understand that viewpoint.
You know if America's immigration policy was allowing people to come from all over the
world but solely based on the fact that they had Christianity as the main force as to why
they were coming they wanted to assimilate to our culture and assimilate to the religion
of Christianity I think that would be a positive thing. I think we could import the Indians
and the Africans and the South Americans and the Asians and whoever and it wouldn't have
any problem. The problem is importing a lot of these people especially they don't want
to assimilate, they don't want to have the same culture or the same language or the same
religion and that causes major issues. But you know if you're out there and I was hoping
this would also be another part of the show is that maybe you feel like you don't have
a certain strength in your life. I think that God gives us a balance and so maybe you're
not as tall as you wanted to be. Maybe you don't have you know certain athleticism that
you wanted or vice versa. I think that we all are special and I think that God has given
us different strengths and weaknesses and so you should focus in on what God has given
you and be thankful for the strengths that you have. If there's certain weaknesses you
want to work on, okay. But you know I grew up short my entire life and I always thought
it was like a really negative thing and I was really disappointed. But you know at the
end of the day we're fearfully you know and wonderfully made and I think that there's
going to be trade-offs and that I can still lean into the strengths that God has given
me and I think God did give me a lot of good strengths and no matter who you are, no matter
where you're at, I think God blesses us with unique characteristics, unique qualities,
unique traits and we should be appreciative of who we are. We should fully embrace who
we are. We shouldn't look down on other people as thinking that they're worse. I don't believe
in a master race. There's no such thing. I think everybody has strengths and weaknesses
and we should appreciate everybody's strengths and weaknesses whatever they are and that
we should all really at the end of the day get the Baptist bias. So everybody out there
has got a race. Everybody's got a different background but we can all get the Baptist
bias.