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Amen, you are there in 1 Corinthians chapter 6. Let's look at verse number 9 again. The Bible says

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Knowing not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God be not deceived neither fornicators nor idolaters nor

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Adulters nor effeminate nor abusers of themselves with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor

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Revilers nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God and such were some of you, but ye are washed

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But ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit

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of our God and the title of the sermon this morning is

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such or some of you, such or some of you

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okay now many people will twist this passage

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and teach a lot of false doctrines right false doctrines like works based

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salvation

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false doctrines like losing your salvation false doctrines like sodomites can

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still be saved

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right

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Now I want to go through this passage this morning with a somewhat of a doctrinal sermon,

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but the book of 1 Corinthians was written to a real church but with serious problems.

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In fact, go to 1 Corinthians chapter 1, let's look at the context.

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1 Corinthians chapter number 1.

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at verse number one, 1 Corinthians 1, 1, the Bible says...

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Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God and

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sustenance our brother. Verse number two, unto the Church of God, so it's a real

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church which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus called to

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be saints. So it's written to the saved church. It's a real church. It's written

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to save people with all that in every place called upon the name of Jesus

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Christ our Lord both theirs and ours.

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Okay, so the book was written to save Christians the book is was written to a real church

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But this church has serious issues. They were full of divisions. They were carnal and they didn't kick the wicked

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Fornicator out and they were doing the Lord's Supper wrong and many other things, right?

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So knowing the context of the book, let's get into the passage go to 1st Corinthians chapter 6

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By the way, keep a place in 1st Corinthians 6. We'll leave it and come back to it

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So point number one this morning is brothers should not go to law with brother.

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Brother should not go to law with brother, you know, that means sister too. Okay, that's the spirit of laws by the way

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First Corinthians chapter 6 look at verse number 1 there any of you having a matter against another

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Go to the law before the unjust and not before the saints

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So when you have an issue or matter against another was the context of another another?

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Brethren, right? You know, don't you dare to take it before the unjust?

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Who are the unjust? Are they just bad people? Are they just sinners? What's the

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contrast? The saints, right? So the unjust is referring to those people who are not

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saints or those people who are not saved. So the Bible says when you have a matter

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against your fellow Christian, don't go to the unsaved. Don't go to the unjust.

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In fact, look at verse number five.

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I speak to your shame. Is it not so? Is it so that there's not a wise man among you? No, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren, but brother goeth to law with brother and die before the unbelievers."

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So that was very clear. The unjust is referring to the unbelievers. Okay? So what's verse one teaching there? Don't sue your fellow Christians.

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Don't take someone who is saved to court. You should go before the saved. You should go before the Christian.

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Christians.

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And by the way, verse one does not teach that you can't sue unbelievers because the whole

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premise is don't sue your fellow brethren.

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So if an unbeliever trespass against you, commits some violation crime, hey, you can

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sue unbelievers, just not believers.

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And then Paul gave the reason why we shouldn't take our brethren before the end save.

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We'll catch verse number two.

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Do we not know that the saints, the saved, shall judge the world?

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And if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

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So what's Paul's argument?

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In the future, the saved will judge the world.

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When would that be? That's the millennial reign of Christ, right?

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So Paul's argument is, you know, is like,

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if you are going to judge the entire world in the future,

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why can't you judge the petty small matters right now?

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That's Paul's argument.

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Okay, verse number three.

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Knowing not that we shall judge angels,

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how much more things that are pertained to this life.

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So we will even be judging the angels,

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the cherubim, seraphim, right?

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So if the saved will someday participate

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in the judgment involving angels,

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then surely Christians ought to be able to settle disputes

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concerning things that pertain to this life.

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So for that reason...

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It is shameful for a Christian to act as though an unsafe judge is more competent to settle

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disputes among brethren than Christians who are in duels with the Spirit of God.

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That's Paul's entire argument here.

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In fact, he actually went on by saying, verse number four, if then ye have judgments of

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things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who they are.

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who are least esteemed in the church.

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Notice what Paul is saying here.

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Even a carnal, stupid, newly saved Christian

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is still better than someone who is unsaved, right?

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But again, Paul was not saying

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that we should have a carnal Christian to judge the matter.

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He was simply making a point that any saved person

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is still better than the unsaved judge.

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Because he went on in verse number five by saying,

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I speak to your shame.

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Is it so that there's not a wise man among you?

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No, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren,

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but brother goeth to law with brother

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and that before the unbelievers.

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So essentially that's Paul's argument.

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You have the entire church.

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You have the word of God.

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You have spiritual leadership.

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You have mature believers.

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Yet you cannot find one wise Christian capable of helping settle the matter.

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Right? That's post-argument.

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By the way, keep it placed in 1 Corinthians chapter 6.

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Go to Matthew 18.

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Matthew 18.

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So the point is Christians ought to settle disputes among themselves.

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And I know we are familiar with the Matthew 18 process,

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but let's look at it again.

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Matthew chapter 18.

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Look at verse 15.

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Matthew 18 verse 15.

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Here's the biblical process.

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Matthew 18.15 says this,

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Moreover, if thy brother shall trespass against thee,

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go and tell him his faults between thee and him alone,

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not online, not to other brethren.

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If he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

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So that's the first step, right?

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If someone trespasses against you,

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go with him alone, call him alone, confront him alone.

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Verse 16, but if he will not hear thee,

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then take with thee one or two more,

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that in the mouth of two or three.

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witnesses, every worship may be established. So if he doesn't

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listen to you, then take one or two other brethren from the

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church with you just to have more witnesses. But then if he

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failed to listen to that, look at verse 17, and if he shall

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neglect to hear thee, tell it unto the church, that's a local

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church, okay, that's not a universal church. But if he

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neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen

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man and

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a publican. So that means that he'll be kicked out, he'll be cast off until he repents.

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Now, some Christians treat every argument like a nuclear war.

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You know, they would just immediately unleash their passive, aggressive attack on you by

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posting something online.

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But that's not a biblical process, right?

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You should confront him alone, then bring out the witnesses, and then tell it to the

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church.

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By the way, go to Matthew chapter 5.

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Matthew chapter number 5.

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It seems like Christians really don't like confronting brethren alone when something happens.

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Even preachers and pastors struggle at that because I think it takes courage, it also takes honesty.

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Right? You know, it takes integrity that you need to be real.

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But that's the biblical process, confront someone alone.

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Now you might wonder, what if that brethren doesn't go to my church?

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I don't have to follow the process, but let me show you Matthew chapter 5, look at verse 23.

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Matthew 5, 23.

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Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath

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ought against thee.

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So the context is not just someone that goes to your church, right?

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If you see, if you know, if you remember a brother had something against you, verse 24,

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leave there thy gift before the altar and go thy way.

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First be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

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The principle is, you know, is still the same, you know, trying to resolve the matter, you

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between you and...

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and the other person alone.

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To me, I think it's pretty interesting that there are people who preach hard against the

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sodomites, but they will not confront their brethren alone.

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These people are actually gay.

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By the way, I use gay as a polysemy because when I say gay, I mean soft and just cowardish.

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We need to learn to follow the biblical process.

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Amen.

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Now, with that being said, I think

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there's a difference between a civil dispute versus reporting

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a major crime.

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Let me just explain that to you, because that

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can be kind of confusing.

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Because a good question is where to draw the line, right?

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Thanks.

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You know, because I don't think we should draw the line as crime versus not crime.

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Because many disputes can be constituted as crimes,

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but they can be still settled among Christians, such as theft.

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Theft is a biblical crime, but I think it should be resolved among brethren.

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Property damage.

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If Stephen hit Brother Christian's car, if it's nothing major, I think that should be

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a saddle between the two of you without suing each other.

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That's why I mean the line of crime versus not a crime still can be argued, because the

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context in 1 Corinthians chapter 6 verse 2 mentions the smallest

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matters. Verse three mentions things that pertain to this life. And then verse number

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seven gives the example of why do we not rather take wrong, why do we not rather suffer yourselves

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to be defrauded. So I think financial disputes are perfectly within Paul's discussion here,

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even though theft is a crime. Okay?

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So if someone steals $100 from you...

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I think you should go through the matri-18 process.

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You could require confession, restitution, and the repentance.

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and even church discipline could follow if he refuses.

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Even though theft is a crime, but again, Paul says,

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hey, just suffer yourselves to be defrauded.

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So financial trespass, I do think

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is false under the first Corinthians, chapter number 6.

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Now go to Romans 13, Romans chapter number 13.

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I also wouldn't make the death penalty offense the only crime to sue your brethren.

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Allow me to clarify.

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In Romans 13, verse 4, Romans 13, verse 4 says this,

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For he, referring to human government, for he is the minister of God to the for good,

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but if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he, the government,

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Good.

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the government beareth not a sword in vain, for he is the minister of God,

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a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

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So the government's job is to wield a sword,

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which means that the government has the right to execute the death penalty, right?

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The church doesn't have the authority.

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We as individuals don't have the authority.

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However...

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There's a reason I said, you know, you know, I wouldn't really make the death penalty offense the only crimes to

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to sue your brethren and my reasoning is

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even though, even though adultery is a death penalty

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worthy crime based on the Bible, right? But the government doesn't really do anything about that.

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So what do we do as a church? Church discipline, right? We kick them out.

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Now, murder is different.

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Murder is completely different.

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Because the two parties could not remediate,

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you know, the two parties could not remediate

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the situation since one party is dead, right?

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You can't even settle the dispute when murder takes place

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because only the murder is left.

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That's why I believe in the case of murder,

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the authorities should be notified, right?

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Because the whole point is reconciling the matter.

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So if you kill someone, there's nobody

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to be reconciled from, right?

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And I do believe, in general, that that penalty offense crime

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should be reported.

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But I do think if the government doesn't do anything about it,

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hey, we just exercise church discipline, OK?

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Same as kidnapping.

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Because if you can't even reach the kidnapper,

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how are you supposed to reconcile the situation?

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I believe the authority needs to be notified.

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And even if you know where the kidnapper is,

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how can the pastor, how can the people of the church

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go to his place, investigate, and also arrest him?

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That's not something that can be handled by the church.

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So again, just exercise your description.

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But in general, yeah, I do believe

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the death penalty offense crime should be reported.

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Unless if the government chooses not to do anything about it,

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then we can just kick them out, because that's

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our own death penalty, quote unquote.

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So hopefully I'm not making sense.

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However, you know.

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Hopefully, I am making sense.

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Maybe because it's hot.

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However, child molestation are not part of the discussion.

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Since the context is taking your brethren to court, right?

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So people try to use that trying to shield predators,

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but that's not even the context.

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In terms of molestation, hey, notify the authority,

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because they are not even brethren to begin with.

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So do not use this to shield them.

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Some churches would use this to cover up pedophiles.

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But the problem is that they don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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They don't.

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is like I said before they are not even brethren so sue them bring the police okay

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so I said point number one brother should not go to law with with brother point point number two

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it is better to suffer wrong

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So Paul already made his point that, you know, on why we shouldn't go to law with brethren,

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churches should, you know, have at least one wise Christian to, you know, judge the matter,

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and even a carnal Christian is better than the insane.

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And then Paul is going to say something that would trigger, you know, that would trigger a lot of people.

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Look at verse number seven.

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Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because you go to law one with another.

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Why do you not rather take wrong?

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Why do you not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

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What's he saying here?

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Even if there's no restitution,

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even though there's no repentance,

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just take it.

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Suffer wrong and suffer yourselves to be defrauded.

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Let them rip you off, right?

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Let them, you know, let them offend you

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and let them cheat on you, just take it.

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That's what, you know, that's what Paul is saying here.

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That's why murder is not even part,

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you know, part of the scope of this discussion,

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because if you are dead,

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how are you supposed to suffer wrong?

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Okay, so, you know, to me, you know, that's not popular because, you know, your flesh may say, you know, but I'm right.

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Okay? Yeah, you are right. In fact, you are really being wronged. That's why Paul said, why do we not rather take wrong?

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You are indeed being trespassed. You are indeed being ripped off. But Paul told you just rather take wrong.

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Just suffer yourselves to be defrauded. And that is biblical Christianity.

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What if you don't get your money back?

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What if there's no restitution?

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What if the other person refuses to make it right?

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Of course you can go through the matru-rating process,

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but if he got kicked out, if he doesn't pay you back,

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just soft yourself to be defrauded, right?

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Keep replacing 1 Corinthians 6, go to Matthew chapter 5.

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Matthew chapter 5.

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So in other words, take the loss rather than degrace the name of Christ by dragging your

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brother before the unbelievers.

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That's the entire premise of Paul's argument here.

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By the way, Jesus Christ taught the same principle in Matthew chapter 5, look at verse 38, Matthew

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5, 38.

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The Bible says, ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.

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But I say unto you, that he resist not evil, but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek,

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turn to him the other also.

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So the Bible does teach the principle of turn the other cheek.

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By the way, that's not teaching that if someone is literally trying to kill you or to inflict some serious bodily harm,

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that you can't even defend yourself, okay? That's not the scope of this.

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The principle is, you know, having the willingness to suffer wrong rather than, you know, insisting upon retaliation.

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Okay, verse number 40.

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And if any man will sue thee at the law

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and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

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And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile,

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go with him twain, give to him that asketh thee,

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and from him that will borrow of thee, turn not thou away.

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Basically saying, let yourself to be ripped off, right?

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Suffer yourselves to be defrauded.

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In fact, go to 1 Peter chapter two.

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1 Peter chapter number two.

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Let me read to you Romans chapter 12 verse 19.

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Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves,

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but rather get placed unto wrath.

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For it is written, vengeance is mine.

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I will repay, saith the Lord.

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We should be placed unto God's wrath,

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because vengeance belongs to God.

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Do not insist upon retaliation.

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1 Peter 2, look at verse 19.

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1 Peter 2, 19.

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For this is thank worthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.

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Same idea.

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For what glory is it if when ye be buffeted for your faults ye shall take it patiently,

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but if when ye do well and suffer for it ye take it patiently, that this is acceptable

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with God.

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For even here unto where ye cause, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an

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example that ye should follow his steps.

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Jesus Christ is the perfect example of turning the other cheek.

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Look at verse 22,

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Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth.

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Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again.

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When he suffered, he threatened not,

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but committed himself to him, God the Father, that judgeth righteously.

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Again, that's the same principle of do not seek retaliation.

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Now go back to 1 Corinthians chapter 6.

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1 Corinthians chapter number 6.

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Obviously, if you get trespassed,

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and you follow the biblical process,

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have the gut, have the courage to confront the brethren alone.

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If that doesn't work, if he gets kicked out and still

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doesn't pay you back, just suffer yourself to be defrauded.

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Allow yourself to be ripped off.

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1 Corinthians 6, we'll have verse number 7.

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1 Corinthians 6, 7 says this.

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Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another.

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Why do ye not rather take wrong?

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Why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

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So I believe Paul was speaking to the victims in verse number seven, right?

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Suffer yourselves to be defrauded.

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He told them, you know, just to take wrong.

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But then I believe he's switching to speaking to the offenders in verse number eight.

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Quintin 6-8 says this...

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may eat you wrong and defraud and die your brethren."

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Okay, now you could argue verse eight is, you know,

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is referring to that the victims suing the offender.

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And in doing so, they are actually defrauding the defrauder.

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But I can't believe Paul was addressing both groups,

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and Paul was addressing the victims.

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But now he's switching to the offenders in verse number 8.

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So basically, in verse 8, Paul is saying that, shame on you

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for doing the wrong.

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Shame on you for defrauding your brethren to begin with.

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So Paul is not excusing either side.

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One brother shouldn't be dragging another brother.

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before the unbelievers and the other brother shouldn't be defrauding his

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brother in the very first place.

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Okay so

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So essentially, I believe Paul's argument is, you know, verse 1 through 6, you know,

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it's basically, you know, Paul saying, why are you taking your brethren before the unbelievers?

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Let Christians from the church judge these matters.

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And then in verse number 7, Paul is saying that even when you are really being wronged,

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it would be better to take the loss than suing your brother before the unbelievers.

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But then in verse number 8, you know, Paul was making the argument, and worst yet.

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Some of you were not just refusing yourself wrong,

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you are the ones doing the wrong

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and defrauding your brethren yourselves.

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Basically, Nepal's argument is this,

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you are upset because somebody else wronged you,

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make sure you are not the one.

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wronging somebody else.

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Okay, again, it's the principle that Christians should have a higher standard of honesty.

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The Bible says in Ephesians chapter 4 verse 25,

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wherefore put away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor,

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for we are members one of another.

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Right?

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We are, you know, we are the members of the body of Christ.

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That's why, you know, why are we lying to each other?

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Why are we defrauding each other?

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The Bible says in Ephesians chapter 4 verse 28,

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let him that stole steal no more,

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but rather let him labor,

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working with his hands a thing which is good.

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So the principle is,

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the context is addressing the Christians,

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let him that stole steal no more.

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Be honest.

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The Bible says in 1 Thessalonians chapter 4 verse number 6,

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that no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter,

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because that the Lord is the revenger of all such.

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So Paul was telling Christians,

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hey, do not defraud your brother in any area of life,

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because God is the avenger, because God will judge you.

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OK?

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So the practical example is, you know,

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Don't borrow money and just refuse to pay it.

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Alright? Don't agree to perform something and not do it.

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Okay? And don't take advantage of another brethren, you know,

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don't take advantage of another church member's generosity.

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You know, don't lie about what was agreed upon.

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Don't use, we are Christians, as an excuse for sloppy business.

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Because people do that all the time, okay?

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And never expect another Christian to forgive dishonesty instead of making restitution.

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Because you know to me being being a Christian should make you more trustworthy

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Should make you more trustworthy in business and not less, okay

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So just be honest people and make sure make sure you are you are not the ones who are actually defrauding others

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So I said point number one brother should not go to law with brother point number two

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It is better to suffer wrong

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point number three

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the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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So far, Paul's argument of not suing your brethren is that the saved should be able to judge the matters

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and if you don't get even, just take ground and move on.

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But then he's going to make another argument. Look at verse number 9.

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1 Corinthians 6, 9.

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No you not!

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that the unrighteous shall now inherit the kingdom of God.

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Now, who are the unrighteous according to the context here?

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The unjust or the unsaved or the unbelievers, right?

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So what's Paul saying here that the unsaved

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Won't go to heaven with you. So why are you bringing matters before them, right?

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Those are you know, the people of the unsaved. Okay. However, I do believe there's a there's another reason

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Why Paul is bringing this up because what's the context verse number eight?

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May ye do wrong and defraud and end at your brethren

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So Paul was addressing the people who were who were actually doing the defrauding and he's essentially saying that why are you a safe man?

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behaving like the unsafe, right?

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Why are you defrauding people just like the unrighteous,

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just like the unbelievers?

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Look at verse number nine again.

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Knowing not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God, be not deceived,

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neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,

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nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkard, nor revilers,

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nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God."

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So why are you behaving like the insane?

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You know, that's one aspect.

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And the other aspect is why are you bringing, you know, a-

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matter between saved people to those unrighteous people.

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So I believe there are two layers to this.

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By the way, that's very similar to Galatians chapter 5,

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when it says that if you not know,

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Galatians 5 talks about the worst.

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that.

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talks about the works of the flesh that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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I believe anyone who lives in the flesh can do those things.

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In fact, the Bible says, actually go to Ephesians chapter 4.

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Ephesians chapter 4.

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The Bible says in Ephesians chapter 5, verse number 5.

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For this you know that no whoremongers nor unclean person nor a covetous man

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who is an idolater had any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

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Okay, now let me just address this.

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These passages are now teaching that if you commit those sins you will lose your salvation or that you are not saved to begin with.

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When you are saved, you still have the sinful flesh.

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And if you live in the flesh, you will produce the fruits or the works of the flesh.

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That's why Christians are commanded in the Bible that they're not supposed to walk after the flesh.

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You are in Ephesians chapter 4, look at verse 17, Ephesians 4-17.

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This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other gentiles

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walk, in the vanity of their mind." So again, that's a choice, right? Don't walk after the gentiles.

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Don't walk after the heathens. Go to Galatians chapter 5. Galatians chapter 5. Look at verse 25.

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Galatians 5, 5.25.

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The Bible says in Galatians chapter 5 verse 25,

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if we live in the spirit, that is salvation,

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let us also walk in the spirit.

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That's the progressive sanctification.

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So the Bible says, if you are saved,

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then walk like you are saved, right?

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you

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If we live in the spirit, let us also walk in the spirit.

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Let us not be desirous of vainglory,

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provoking one another, envying one another.

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Provoking people just to get some reaction and be envious

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is the works of the flesh.

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So let's not, of course, most of you here are saved.

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So act like you are actually saved.

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Amen?

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Good if Philippians chapter 2.

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Philippians chapter 2.

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because the flesh is not going into the kingdom in its present, corruptible condition.

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The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 15 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.

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However, at the resurrection, we will receive glorified body that cannot sin.

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We are in Philippians chapter 3, look at verse 20, Philippians 3.20.

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for our conversation is in heaven from whence also we look for the Savior the Lord Jesus Christ

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who shall change our vile body that's our sinful flesh that that in the fashion like unto his

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glorious body according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself

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so during the you know at the resurrection we will get glorified bodies which cannot sin so

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So what goes to heaven is not our sinful flesh but a glorified body.

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That's why the Bible is correct when it says that the fornicators or idolaters

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cannot inherit the kingdom of God because our sinful flesh will be changed.

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Because if you are saved, you will go to heaven no matter what

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because God has sealed you on the day of redemption.

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But Paul's point is, again, if you are saved,

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why are you living and acting like the unsaved?

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Why are you living and acting like the unrighteous?

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Why are you defrauding other people?

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Why are you so carnal?

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If you are saved, act like you are saved.

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Go back to 1 Corinthians chapter 6, 1 Corinthians chapter

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number 6.

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So I'll say point number 1.

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Brother should not go to law with with with brother point number two

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It is better to suffer wrong point number three

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The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God

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point number four and

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Such was some of you and such was some of you look ever from none again first Corinthians 6 9

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Knowing not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God, be not deceived,

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neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with

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mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkard, nor revilers, nor extortioners shall inherit the

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kingdom of God." So here Paul listed 10 groups of sinners.

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fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind, thieves,

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covetous, drunkards, revoulers, and extortioners. But then he said this in verse number 11,

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1st clintin 6 11 the Bible says and such war some of you so

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So the natural reading of this passage is that all of these sins were committed by the people in the Caribbean church.

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you know, such, or some of you, you know, the Bible doesn't say one person has done all of that,

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you know, but some of the people have done things like that, okay? Now, some people would try to say

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that this list is not an all-inclusive list and that Christians could not commit some of those

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since. Personally, I do.

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I do disagree on that view because I believe some of the people from the

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Corinthian Church have done all these things because the natural reading is

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such what some of you have done.

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There's nothing in this passage that excludes a certain category from this statement.

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It will be super weird if Paul says

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You know, neither those who take the mark of the beast, nor blasphemers of the Holy Ghost,

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shall inherit the kingdom of God, and such will some of you. It will make no sense.

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That's why I believe, you know, saved Christians have done all these things,

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okay? Just based on a natural reading of this passage.

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Now the reason people don't think this is an all-inclusive list is that they want to

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explain away abusers of themselves with mankind because in their mind they think it's referring

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to the homosexuals.

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I get their intention.

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But that's simply not a natural reading of this passage.

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You know, it was clear that some of them were abusers of themselves with mankind, but they got saved.

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Now, I will address this later.

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Because we know what fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, cowiches...

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It's just all the other people are.

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And the two groups in question is the effeminate

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and the abusers of themselves with mankind.

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And since the context is Christians

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have done these things, they have

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to be natural sins or sins that are common to men.

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Because in 1 Corinthians chapter 10, the Bible says,

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there hath no temptation taketh you but such as is common to men.

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Right?

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There are certain sins are common to men, but then there are other sins that are uncommon or against nature.

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Namely, men with men working that which is inseamly or women against women, right?

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These are, you know, these are sins against nature. In fact, Romans 1 is very clear on that.

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So Christians cannot commit sins against nature, going after strange flesh, okay?

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This means that the effeminate and the abusers of themselves with mankind cannot be referring to the sodomites.

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Because if saved Christians have done these things, these cannot be sins against nature.

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In addition, sodomites cannot be saved, so this could not be referring to the sodomites.

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Let me just read to you Jude 1-7.

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even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner,

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giving themselves over to fornication and going after strange flesh,

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are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

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So Sodomites cannot be saved.

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So by comparing Scripture with Scripture,

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that the effeminate and the abusers of themselves with mankind cannot be Sodomites.

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Okay?

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But then the question is, what exactly are they?

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Now, before I address that, let's look

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at the modern translations of the Bible.

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Again, that's why it's important to use the King James Bible.

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Here's what the NIV said.

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Neither the sexually immoral nor adulterers nor men

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who have sex with men.

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Here's the ESV.

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Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers

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nor men who practice homosexuality.

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Here's a New Living Translation.

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You know, those who indulge in sexual sin

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or who worship idols or commit adultery

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or are male prostitutes or practice homosexuality.

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Here's the New King James Version, neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor homosexuals nor sodomites.

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Notice the modern versions either omit effeminate or they equate effeminate with male prostitutes

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and they equate abusers of themselves with mankind with sodomites or homosexuals.

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That's why many liberal churches

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think they can reach the sodomites.

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Here's the main issue.

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Here's my main argument on that.

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Which author in the Bible knows more about reprobates

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the most in the New Testament?

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Apostle Paul.

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He wrote Romans chapter one.

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He also wrote 1 Corinthians chapter six.

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So if Apostle Paul wants to make it clear

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that sodomites can be saved,

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Don't you think he will use some of the wording like reprobates,

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man with man, or the terminologies in Romans chapter one, right?

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He chose to choose some other wording for a reason.

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Go to 1 Timothy chapter one, 1 Timothy chapter one.

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By the way, what is an effeminate?

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The word effeminate simply means soft.

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In fact, the same Greek word is also translated to soft.

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Because the word effeminate is a polysemy, okay?

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You know, let me just read to you Matthew 11 verse 8, Matthew 11, 8.

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But what went he out for to see?

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A man clothed in soft raiment.

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That's the same word as effeminate, okay?

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Because the word is a polysemy, amen?

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Soft, effeminate?

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Many men, you know, I've known men who lack masculine characters.

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A soft man is not a sodomite.

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I know men who talk softly, but they are not sodomites.

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Because an effeminate man can be saved.

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Some men may have effeminate sounding voice

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because of some medical conditions,

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but that doesn't mean they are sodomites.

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So don't label someone a reprobate

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solely because they have effeminate sounding voice.

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But if they talk like a queer.

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act like a queer, walk like a queer, dress like a queer, maybe they are queers.

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Okay, anyway. So the effeminate simply means soft, you know, soft men.

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But then the difficult part is the abusers of themselves with mankind. So let's compare

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scripture with scripture. I'm going to go back to the Greek later, okay?

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You are in 1 Timothy chapter 1, we'll have verse number 9. 1 Timothy 1, 9.

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again written by the Apostle Paul.

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Knowing this, that the law is not made for righteous men, but for the lawless and disobedient,

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for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and

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murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for whoremongers, for them that defile themselves

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with mankind."

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So here we have a similar wording, you know, here we see a group called them that defile

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themselves with man-

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in 1 Corinthians, the Bible says abusers of themselves

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with mankind.

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So there is a group of people who defile or abuse themselves

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with mankind.

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So the question is, what is mankind?

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Mankind means people who are men.

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Now people use the word mankind to address all men and women,

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but biblically, there is mankind and there is womankind.

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In fact, let me just read to you Leviticus 20.13.

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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman.

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So the mankind is different from woman.

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So mankind is people who are men.

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Got it?

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By the way, 1st Timothy chapter 1, verse 9 through 10,

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pretty much gives you a list of pairs.

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Let's read verse number 9 again.

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Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man,

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but for the lawless and disobedient.

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When you are lawless, you are being disobedient, right?

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For the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane,

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again, synonyms.

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for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers

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for manslayers.

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These are murderers.

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But then it says for whoremongers,

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for them that defile themselves with mankind.

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So those who defile themselves with mankind

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is paired with whoremongers.

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Who are the whoremongers?

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Whore mongers are men who sleep with other women, right?

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So what's the other side of the spectrum?

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Women who defile themselves or sleep with men or mankind.

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Who are the women who sleep with men?

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Those are called whores.

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So Paul's report is comparing whore mongers and whores.

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Okay, see that?

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Because they defile themselves with men.

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Now, go back to 1 Corinthians chapter 6, 1 Corinthians chapter 6.

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Whores are women who abuse themselves.

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Whores are those who defile themselves with men.

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By the way, it's the exact same Greek word in 1 Corinthians chapter 6 and 1 Timothy chapter 1.

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Okay, defile, abuse, again, same wording.

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Now the other possible theory is that these could be men who lie with other men for power but not for pleasure.

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However, you can argue that people who do those things are sodomized themselves.

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And you can also make the argument that the act itself doesn't mean reprobation if it's forced or some kind of abuse context.

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But all I'm trying to say is this. Paul used a specific wording for a reason.

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Personally, I think those are talking about women who defile with men.

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And what's interesting is Paul went on by saying this.

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Look at 1 Corinthians chapter 6 verse 13.

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1 Corinthians 6, 13.

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Meats for the belly and the belly for meats, but God shall destroy both it and them.

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Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord.

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And the Lord for the body.

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and God had both raised up the Lord,

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and will also raise up us by his own power,

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knowing now that your bodies are the members of Christ,

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shall I then take the members of Christ

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and make them the members of, and what?

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Harlot, God forbid, because harlots

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abuse their bodies with men, right?

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Abusers of themselves with mankind.

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So just to summarize my argument here.

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Number one, the natural reading of this passage

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indicates that some Corinthian Christians have done all of the above

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or sins like the above. Number two, Christians cannot commit sins against

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nature. Number three, Apostle Paul knows the

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rubber bait doctrine very well and he didn't use those verbages. Number four, the

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same wording is also used in 1st Timothy chapter 1 which is paralleled with

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with whoremongers, number five.

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The same underlying Greek word is used in both channels.

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chapters.

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So I think, you know, so the Bible

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is saying that whores can be saved.

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Soft men can be saved.

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Now, I do want to go back to the Greek,

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because I think it's kind of fun,

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because I'm in the Greek kick right now.

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Because people like to go back to the Greek

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to prove sodomites can be saved.

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Because the Greek word used in 1 Corinthians 6 and 1

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Timothy chapter 1 is, you know, archenochetes.

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OK?

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you

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Now, the problem is this Greek word is used so few times

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in the entire Greek literature that it is dishonest

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to say this word 100% refers to homosexuals.

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The usage was so scarce.

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OK, you cannot make that argument.

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But what they will do is they will say the word

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arsenokites, again, one word is a compound word.

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Because the word arson means man or male,

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but then kitties means bed.

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So the word means man bed, one word.

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So they take this as a compound word,

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and they take this as that it means a man who

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lies with another man.

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But the issue is you cannot determine

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the meanings of compound words by their separate parts.

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For example, butterfly does not mean the animal is made of butter and fly.

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That's a terrible argument, right?

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What about a lady killer?

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I mean, a lady killer is not even talking about a lady who is a killer.

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Lady killer is referring to a man who is charming,

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a man who is attractive to women, like Brother Jared.

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Yesterday at Seouling, he just got pairs and pairs of women

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talking to him.

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At the end, I got so tired of being rejected by the women.

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Whenever I see a women, whenever I see a lady,

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I just point them to your brother, Jared.

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So Lady Killer is a man who is charming or whatever.

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So my whole point is.

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You cannot determine the meaning of a compound word

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by its separate parts.

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Likewise, arsenokites literally means man bed.

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So can it mean that women who are on the bed with men?

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Why does it have to mean a man who is on the bed

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with another man?

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So people add the meaning to the word,

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while the word simply means man bed.

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or man better.

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And the other thing people would do

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trying to justify that sonomans can be saved

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is they will go back to the Septuagint.

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They will argue that back in the Septuagint, which

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is the Old Testament in Greek.

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So back in the Septuagint in Leviticus 20, 13,

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the Septuagint uses the words arsenos and chitin.

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They will say that this is where Paul created the word form in 1 Corinthians chapter 6.

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But the problem is we don't hold to the subtyogen.

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Additionally, back in the subtyogen, it does not use the compound word.

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You know, back in the Septuagint,

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it doesn't call the offender an archinochitis,

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because their rendition of Leviticus 20 13

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describes someone who lies with a male.

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Again, two words versus a compound word.

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And now to mention that the King James Old Testament

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was translated from the Masoretic text

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and not from the Greek Septuagint.

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OK?

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Because even back in the Septuagint,

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the whole thing is describing the offender

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as someone who lies with a male and not as a compound

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calling the offender, arsenic or ketis.

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Hopefully I'm making sense.

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So the point is just trust your King James Bible, amen?

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So you're in 1 Corinthians chapter number 6.

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So I said point number one, brother should not go to law with brother. Point number two, it is better to suffer wrong. Point number three,

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the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Point number four, and such was some of you. Point number five,

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that's my last point.

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The power of salvation.

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So Paul just listed a bunch of sins, and then he said this, look at verse number 11,

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And such was some of you,

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but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus,

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and by the Spirit of our God." Verse 11 is a beautiful verse because Jesus saves sinners.

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First he said, ye are washed, because sin makes us filthy,

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but salvation makes us clean.

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The Bible says in Isaiah 118, though your sins be as scarlet,

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they shall be as white as snow.

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Revelation 1 5 says, you know, Jesus Christ, you know, unto him that loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood.

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We are washed by the blood of the Lamb, meaning that we don't have to wash ourselves to be saved.

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We don't have to be baptized to be saved.

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We don't have to do anything to wash away our sins to be saved.

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Jesus Christ is all you need, right?

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You are washed by the blood of Christ.

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But then he says, you are sanctified.

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Now what sanctified means set apart.

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You know, every saved person is positionally sanctified once we got saved, right?

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Hebrews 10, 10 says,

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by the which we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Christ Jesus once for all.

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So the point is we belong to God.

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We are a special people.

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We are set apart as a chosen people.

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But then he says, you are justified.

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Now, justification means that God has declared you righteous.

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Not because you stopped sinning, not because you joined a church,

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not because you got baptized, not because you clean up your life,

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but because you trust in Christ.

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Romans 3 23 says, for all have sinned and come short of the word of God being justified freely

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by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. So God declares us righteous

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because of the substitutionary atonement of Christ. Go to Titus chapter 3, Titus chapter number 3.

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So why did Paul tell them all that?

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Because everything ties back to the main theme of not taking your brother to court

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Why should you be willing to forgive your brother?

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Why should you suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

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Why shouldn't you be be consumed with with vengeance right? Why shouldn't you destroy your brother over money?

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Why shouldn't you lie to your fellow?

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Brother and defraud other people

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because and such were some of you."

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So what's Paul's point here?

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You were a sinner too, and you still sinned,

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but God saved you, he washed you,

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and he sanctified you, and he justified you.

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So why are you still doing those things?

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Titus, chapter three, look at verse one.

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Titus 3, one.

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Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers,

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to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

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to speak evil of no man.

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Don't say harmful speech.

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Don't slander people.

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To speak evil of no man, to be no-brothers,

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but gentle, showing all minkings unto all men,

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for we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient,

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deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures,

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living malice and envy, hateful and hating one another.

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But after...

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that the kindness and love of God our Savior toward men appeared,

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not by works of righteousness which we have done,

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but according to His mercy He saved us

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by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost,

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which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

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that being justified by His grace we should be made heirs

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according to the hope of eternal life."

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So.

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So the point in Titus chapter 3 is, you know, if you are saved, you know, salvation is not by words of righteousness that we have done,

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but only through Christ's mercy, but after you are saved, why are you still doing those sins?

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Why are you still being a brawler and being disobedient,

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foolish, deceived, and then just hating your brethren?

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Why are you still doing those things?

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In fact, go to Ephesians chapter 4.

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Go to Ephesians chapter number 4.

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Okay, verse 31.

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Ephesians chapter 4, verse 31.

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The Bible says this,

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let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor

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and evil speaking be put away from you with all malice

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and be kind one to another, tender-hearted,

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forgiving one another even as God

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for Christ's sake had forgiven you.

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Again, ties back to 1 Corinthians chapter six, right?

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You know, don't seek.

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You know, don't always have a vengeful spirit.

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Just realize that when you sin,

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that Christ has forgiven of your sins.

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Okay, that's why we should be forgiving each other.

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Colossians 3.13 says,

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Forbearing one another and forgiving one another.

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If any man have a quarrel against any,

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even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

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So again, the premise of Paul's argument is,

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you want your brother to pay every penny back,

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remember that Christ has forgiven you.

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Right?

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I mean, you want revenge because somebody wronged you?

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Just remember, how many times do you have wronged Christ?

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You cannot look down.

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your nose at every sinner when your testimony is

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in such or some of you.

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Right?

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Realize that Christ has saved you.

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Christ has justified you.

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So cut each other some slack, forgiving each other,

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and don't live like the unsaved.

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So what's the conclusion of the sermon?

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Number one, if you have been run by a brother,

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you

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Seek reconciliation and not revenge. Follow the biblical process.

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Right? And if you don't get, you know, what's, you know, what's, you know,

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if you don't get what's been defrauded, you know, like Apostle Paul said,

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why do we not rather take wrong? Okay?

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Don't destroy a church over something you could forgive or let go.

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Number two, if you wronged your brother, make it right.

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Because like Paul said, ne, ye do wrong and defraud,

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and die your brethren.

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Number three, if you are not saved,

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you need to be washed and justified.

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You don't have to clean up yourself.

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Just believe on Jesus Christ.

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Let's pray.

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Thank you all for First Corinthians,

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chapter number six.

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And thank you for being a forgiving God.

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But I pray that you'll help us have a Christian loving spirit that will just let go of the

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petty things and just follow the biblical process.

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I pray for unity of this local body and just strengthen us.

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I pray this in Jesus' name, amen.

