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you

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Good morning, good morning.

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Everybody please be seated. Welcome to Sure Foundation Baptist Church.

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If you could please turn to page 183 in your hymnal.

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Oh, How I Love Jesus, page 183.

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The name I love to hear, I love to sing its worth.

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It sounds like music in my ear, the sweetest name on earth.

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Oh how I love Jesus.

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Oh how I love Jesus, oh how I love Jesus

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Because he first loved me

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It tells me of a Savior's love who died to set me free

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It tells me of His precious blood, The sinner's perfect plea.

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Oh, how I love Jesus!

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Oh, how I love Jesus!

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Oh, how I love Jesus!

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Because He first loved me.

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It tells me not my Father hath in store for every day.

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And though I tread a dartsome path, His sons shine all the way.

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Oh, how I love Jesus! Oh, how I love Jesus!

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Jesus, oh, how I love Jesus, because He first loved me.

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It tells of one whose loving heart can feel my deepest woe,

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Who in each sorrow bears a part That none can bear below.

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Oh how I love Jesus

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Oh how I love Jesus

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Oh how I love Jesus

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Because he first loved me

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Amen. Good singing, brother Dustin. Would you pray us in, please?

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and then thank you uh... page one sixty two to god be the glory

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page one sixty two in your hand

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To God be the glory, great things he hath done.

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So loved he the world that he gave us his son,

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who yielded his life an atonement for sin.

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And open the life gate that all may go in

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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the earth hear his voice.

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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the people rejoice.

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O come to the Father through Jesus the Son,

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and give him the glory, great things he hath done.

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have done. Oh perfect redemption, the purchase of blood to every believer, the promise of

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God, the vilest offender who truly believes.

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That moment from Jesus apart and receives.

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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the earth hear his voice.

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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the people rejoice.

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O come to the Father through Jesus the Son,

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and give him the glory, great things he hath done,

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great things he hath taught us, great things he hath done.

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have done and great are rejoicing through Jesus the Son but purer and

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higher and greater will be our wonder our transport when Jesus we see

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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the earth hear his voice.

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Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, let the people rejoice.

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O come to the Father through Jesus the Son.

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And give him the glory, great things he hath done.

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Amen.

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Time for some announcements.

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Alright, good morning to Shoe Foundation Baptist Church Sunday morning service.

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Raise your hand if you need a bulletin and Usher will bring one to you.

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And the verse of the week is Romans chapter 13 verse number 7.

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Render therefore to all their dues, tribute to whom tribute is due, custom to whom custom, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

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That's a great verse and about our responsibility and there's nothing wrong to pay taxes.

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In fact, that's what Jesus Christ commanded.

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Also, we should render proper honor to those people who hold certain position.

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Not, you know, not because they are good people, but because...

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because of the position, amen.

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Render honor to whom honor is due.

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Let's look at the inside page.

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Give us a follow on our social media platforms.

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We have Sunday morning service at 11,

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Sunday afternoon service at four.

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And Wednesday night we are going to the Book of Acts.

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And this coming Wednesday we'll be looking at

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the famous story of the Philippian jailer,

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finished up Acts chapter 16.

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We have Sunday morning, Saturday morning at 10.30,

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and Sunday afternoon, Sunday morning at 1.30 p.m.

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and

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And five, yesterday we had a great time at Notre Dame tailgate.

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There were five soul winners and 28 salvations.

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So definitely it's a great result.

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I was on my way.

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I haven't left India yet and I just wrecked a car.

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So you know, I would just blame on the Catholics.

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So anyway, I'm kidding.

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I'm doing well, so you know, it's kind of tough to fit three car seat on my small car, but you know, we made it to work, so that's good.

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We'll have a Notre Dame again next Saturday, so please join us if you are able to.

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Let's look at upcoming events.

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The annual fall fellowship is less than a month on October 3rd.

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And please use the sign up sheet at the front table over there.

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And if you are traveling and then you want to stay that Saturday night so you can make

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it to church closer on that Sunday, we do have a nearby hotel discount rate.

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Please let me know if you are interested so you can pay a you know so you can pay less

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if you want to stay overnight.

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you know, October 3rd.

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Also, Pittsburgh is coming up on October 10th,

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that's Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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You can go to godresource.com to find out more details

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about Notre Dame as well as the Pittsburgh Sowing.

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Also come back this afternoon because Brother Brad is going to do some missionary report

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because he came back from Barbados.

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So please come back to hear the great work they have accomplished over there.

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And please stay faithful in your Titan offering.

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That's how we keep the lights up.

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That's how we fix those windows that someone scattered, whatever.

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And then if you flip on the backside.

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You can see the birthdays and the anniversary coming up for the month of September.

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If your information is not on there, please let me know so I can remind you of your birthdays.

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Okay, with that being said, let's sing one more song and then we'll take up the offering.

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Okay, page 472 in your hymnal, this is my father's world, 472.

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This is my father's world, and to my listening ears,

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All nature sings and round me rings the music of the spheres.

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This is my father's world.

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I rest me in the thought

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Of rocks and trees, of skies and seas,

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His hand the wanderers wrought.

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This is my father's world.

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The birds their carols praise.

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The morning light the lily white

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Declare their maker's praise.

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This is my father's world

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He shines in all that's fair

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In rustling grass I hear him pass

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He speaks to me everywhere

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This is my Father's world.

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Oh, let me not forget

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That though the wrong seems oft so strong

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God is real and never yet.

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This is my Father's world.

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The battle is not done.

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Jesus who died shall satisfy

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and earth and heaven may one.

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The ushers come up for the offering.

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Okay, Brother Matt, would you pray for us please?

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Amen.

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We'll start in your Bibles to Philemon.

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Philemon, if you need a Bible, just please raise your hand,

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and Usher will provide you one.

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The Bible reads, Paul the prisoner of Jesus Christ and Timothy our brother to fine Lehman,

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our dearly beloved and fellow laborer.

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and to our beloved Afia and Archbishop, our fellow soldier, and to the church in thy house.

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Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. I thank my God making mention

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of thee always in my prayers, hearing of thy love and faith which thou hast toward the Lord Jesus

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and toward all saints.

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that the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing

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which is in you in Christ Jesus. For we have great joy and consolation in thy love because

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the bowels of the saints are refreshed by thee, brother. Wherefore

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Though I might be much bold in Christ to enjoin thee, which is convenient, yet for love's

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sake I rather beseech thee, being such in one as Paul the Aged, and now also a prisoner

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of Jesus Christ.

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I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, who I have begotten in my bonds, which in time past

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was to thee unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me, whom I have set.

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Since again thou therefore receive him that is my own bowels whom I would have retained with me that in thy stead

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He might be have ministered unto me in the bonds of the gospel

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But without thy mind would I do nothing that

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Thy benefit should not be as it were of necessity but willingly for perhaps

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He therefore departed for a season that thou shouldest receive him forever

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not now as a servant, but above a servant, a beloved, a brother beloved, especially to me,

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but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh and in the Lord?

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If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself.

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If he hath wronged thee, or o'erth thee ought, put that on mine account."

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I, Paul, have written it with my own hand.

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I will prepare it, albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me, even thine own

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self besides.

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Yea, brother, let me have joy of thee, and the Lord refresh my bowels in the Lord.

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Having confidence in thy obedience, I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do

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more than I say.

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But withal, prepare me also a lodging, for I trust that through your prayers I shall

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be given unto you.

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There salutes the epharis my fellow prisoner in Christ Jesus, Marcus, our

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Archers, Demas, Lucas, my fellow laborers, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be

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with you in spirit amen. Brother Stephen will you pray us in

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service?

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Amen. Let me read to you Romans chapter 12 verse number 10. The Bible says be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love in honor

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Preferring one another and the title of the sermon this morning is honor and shame

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honor and shame, because different cultures communicate things and handle conflicts differently.

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And who in here is familiar with the honor-shame culture versus the guilt-innocence culture?

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Who in here is familiar with that?

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Okay, a couple people here, kind of.

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Basically, in a guilt-innocence culture,

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the central questions tend to be,

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did I do something wrong?

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But in an honor-shame culture, it tends to be,

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have I brought honor or shame upon myself

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and the people around me, the people that I represent?

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Now, this doesn't mean that people

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from the honor-shame culture don't value honesty and truth.

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Neither does it mean that people

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from the guilt-innocence culture don't value

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value, honor, but the way they approach things

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can be pretty different.

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Now, in a guilt innocence culture,

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which is most Western European culture,

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it's highly individualistic, law-oriented.

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Suppose someone confronts you, hey,

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that you promised me to do this, but you didn't.

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And a guilt-oriented cultural response

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would be like, did I actually promise that?

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What exactly did I do wrong?

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Was I responsible for that?

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What rule did I violate?

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But if you establish that you didn't do anything wrong,

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the matter is largely resolved in a guilt innocence culture.

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The goal is vindication as well as innocence.

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That's why the Western disputes can be very much fact oriented.

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What exactly did he say?

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What does the contract say?

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Who violated the rule?

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Who is at fault?

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But in an honor shame culture, the person is understood much more strongly as part of a family, church, community, social hierarchy, or other groups.

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And your actions don't merely reflect upon you, but also reflect upon other people.

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So the question becomes, hey, how will this make us look? Am I embarrassing him publicly? Am I showing people the proper respect? Will he lose face?

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will this bring shame upon my family?

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So you can see how different culture operate

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when they confront some issue.

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So imagine that an older relative

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says something incorrect at a family gathering.

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A strong guilt-innocence oriented person

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might think he is factually wrong,

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so I'm gonna correct him right there.

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But an honor shame oriented person may think,

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even if he is wrong, correcting him publicly

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would embarrass him, so I talk to him privately.

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Okay, so these are the different cultures.

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And the second person is now saying

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that truth doesn't matter, but he's also considering

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an additional issue that he's also thinking about

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the person's honor and social standing.

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That's why in many Eastern or Asian cultures,

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maintaining harmony

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Harmony and allowing someone to save face

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can make communication more indirect.

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For example, suppose somebody invites you to go somewhere.

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And a very American style response

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would be, no, I can't come.

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Pretty direct.

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But an indirect response might be like,

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that might be a little difficult.

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Contextually, it actually means no in an honor shame culture.

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By the way, they're not really lying because it may indeed be difficult to go,

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but instead of saying no, they say it's not convenient for me,

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you know, because that's still true, right?

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The other example is, you know, someone may ask you,

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would you like some more food?

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You say no.

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They ask again.

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You say no.

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They ask again.

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And now you accept.

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And from a very literal guilt innocence culture,

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this can look pretty ridiculous, right?

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Why don't you just say yes?

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And who in here is familiar with the Chinese dinner bill

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war?

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Chinese dinner bill war.

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So the bill arrives, right?

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And then the Chinese person A is like, I'll pay.

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Person B is like, absolutely not.

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I will pay.

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Person A is like, no, no, no, no.

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You are my guest.

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I will pay.

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Person B is like, give me the bill.

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I'll pay.

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That's the Chinese bill war.

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By the way, that's really common in China.

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Pretty much every big meal ends up like this.

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So now two grown adults are physically

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wrestling over the check.

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By the way, it's very common in an honor shame culture.

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But then the American will be like, hey, person A is like,

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I will pay.

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Person B is like, OK, you can pay.

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But to the Chinese, this is very, very rude.

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But to the Americans, well, he offered to pay,

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so why are you arguing about that?

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So the Chinese people, they see the initial refusal

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as part of demonstrating generosity

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and just avoiding appealing entitles.

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Also comments about your weight, age, income, marriage, children can be much less taboo

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in an honor shame culture than the contemporary American culture.

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For example, maybe a Chinese in-law sees you after 10 years.

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Wow, you get really fat.

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The Americans are like, what in the world?

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And then the English will tell you, come inside.

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I made you food to eat.

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But then the Americans are like, why would I eat more?

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Because you just call me fat.

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By the way, it's actually very normal for Chinese English

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to tell you, yeah, you got fat and blah, blah, blah.

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Because comments about your weight, age, it's less taboo.

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OK?

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Then they'll be like, you are 20 years old already.

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Why don't you have kids yet?

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They will say things like to their in-laws.

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And then Americans are like, nice seeing you too.

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Or a husband will be like, where do you want to eat?

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And then the wife is like, anywhere is fine.

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And then the husband is like, McDonald's?

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No.

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Taco Bell?

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No.

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Chinese food?

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No.

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I thought anywhere was fine.

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So you can see by understanding different cultures,

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you can potentially avoid a lot of conflicts.

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Go to Proverbs 29.

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Proverbs 29.

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I think Brother Frank will agree with me,

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because I believe some of the Korean culture may be similar.

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But different cultures are different.

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But however, neither culture is inherently biblical

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or unbiblical.

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Both can produce virtues as well as serious problems.

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And guilt culture can produce strong ideas of justice,

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personal accountability, and just objective standards.

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But it can also become hyper-individualistic.

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Bill.

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they will say things like, I didn't technically break a rule,

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so who cares how I treated everyone?

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All they care is about the facts, facts, facts,

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confrontation, but an honor shame culture

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can produce respect, loyalty, humility, family,

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responsibility, and being sensitive toward other people,

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but it can also become obsessed with.

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with appearances.

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That's why we should look at this biblically,

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because the Bible actually contains both cultures.

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Although, I will say this, that the Bible is actually

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more honor shame oriented than most American Christians

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realize.

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And the Bible certainly doesn't teach us

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to live for the approval of men.

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You're in Proverbs 29, look at verse 25.

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Proverbs 29, verse 25.

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The Bible says this,

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The fear of men bringeth a snare,

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but whoso putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe.

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We should not be afraid of what men think about us

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if we are doing what is true, right?

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But neither does the Bible teach

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I don't care about, you know, what anybody thinks about me.

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Go to Proverbs 22. Proverbs 22.

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Look at verse number one.

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Proverbs 22 verse one says this.

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A good name, that's your reputation.

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A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches

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and love in favor rather than silver and gold.

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So the Bible brings a balance of both.

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Don't seek for the approval of men,

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but also, hey, you need to have a good reputation.

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I feel like most Europeans and Americans focus a lot on themselves and they completely forget about respect and honor.

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Because most western culture, they would despise authority, right?

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Children mouth up to their parents and wife disrespect their own husbands.

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But I think an honor-shamed culture, even the Chinese culture, even though they are pretty much unsaved for the most part,

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but they do respect their parents. They do respect their authority.

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And there's such thing as biblical honor,

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and there's also such thing as biblical shame.

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Turn to Romans chapter 12.

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Romans chapter 12.

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So this morning, let's talk about honor and shame.

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Point number one, the Bible recognizes honor and shame.

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The Bible recognizes honor and shame.

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Romans 12, look at verse number 10.

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Romans 12, 10 says this.

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be kindly affection one to another with broadly love, in honor preferring one another.

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So the Bible commands us to honor each other, because the natural human tendency is to prefer ourselves, right?

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Because we want our opinions to be respected, we want our accomplishments to be recognized,

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and we want our position to be acknowledged, we want our feelings to be considered,

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but the Bible says in honor, preferring one another.

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In essence, hey, bring yourself to their level, okay?

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Don't think of yourself too highly.

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Go to Romans 13.

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Let me read to you Philippians chapter 2, verse number 3.

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Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory,

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but in lowliness of mind,

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let each esteem other better than themselves.

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Bring yourself low.

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So instead of asking how much honor am I receiving, hey ask, am I showing proper honor to other people?

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And different relationships require appropriate honor.

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Romans 13 verse 7 says, render therefore to all their dues,

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tribute to whom tributes, due, custom to whom custom,

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fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

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Different people hold different position,

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and we should give them their proper respect,

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their proper honor, even though you may not like them,

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but respect their positions.

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turn to Leviticus chapter 19.

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Leviticus chapter 19.

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For example, different positions can be children should honor their parents, right?

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The Bible says, honor thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

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Now the most western culture really struggles at this.

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Here, people, you know, obviously I'm not talking about everyone, but here people just put their elderly parents to nursing homes.

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But in most Eastern culture, they really take care of their parents when they are old.

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To me, that is biblical, right? We should take care of our parents if they can't support themselves.

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You know, that's an honorable thing to do.

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Even though they may not be safe, you should still honor your parents. Amen.

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Also, young people should honor the elderly.

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Leviticus 19, look at verse 32.

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Leviticus 19, verse 32.

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The Bible says this,

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Thou shalt rise up before the holy head.

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That means people who have white hair, you know, elderly persons,

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and honor the face of the old man, and fear thy God. I am the Lord.

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You should fear God and honor the elderly.

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Now, most people struggle at this too, especially in the Western culture, because they have

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no respect towards the elderly.

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Some even mock them and do pranks on them.

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That shows they don't fear the Lord.

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We should honor the elderly.

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Hey, it's a great practice.

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Maybe you are going to a restaurant.

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And when an elderly man come, hey, just stand up

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as a gesture of respect.

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Some people even raise up when a woman comes in.

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To me, that's an honorable thing to do as well.

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Go to 1 Timothy chapter 5, 1 Timothy chapter number 5.

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Children should honor their parents and young people should honor the elderly.

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And the Bible, you know,

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defines being elderly as people 60 year old and you know older, right?

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By the way, the phrase, rebuke not an elder, the primary context is not actually not,

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is actually not talking about the pastor, but elderly men.

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Because if you look at the context,

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hey, younger women, younger men, right?

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So we should not rebuke an elderly man as well as

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a pastor elder.

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So we should also honor widows who are widows indeed.

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1 Timothy chapter 5, verse 3.

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1 Timothy 5.3 says this.

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Honor widows that are widows indeed.

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Now the Bible gave us more criteria of who are the widows indeed.

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You know, widows who are 60 years old and 60 years and older,

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plus with different criteria, we should honor widows indeed.

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We should also honor elders or pastors.

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Look at verse 17. Verse 75 says this,

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Let the elders that rule well become worthy of double honor,

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especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

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You know?

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So we should respect elders.

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We should respect pastors.

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We should pay them well.

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We should respect their position.

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Go to 1 Peter chapter 3, 1 Peter chapter number 3.

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By the way, part of the definition of the word

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elder does have a financial aspect to that, right?

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Provide for your parents, provide for the widows,

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and provide for the elders.

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OK?

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So children should honor their parents,

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and young people should honor the elderly.

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We should honor widows who are widows indeed.

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And we should honor elders or pastors.

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We should honor our spiritual leaders.

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But also, husbands need to give honor unto their wives.

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1 Peter chapter 3, look at verse number 7.

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1 Peter 3, 7 says this, likewise ye husbands,

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dwell with them according to knowledge,

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giving honor unto the wife as unto the weaker vessel,

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and as being heirs together of the grace of life,

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that your prayers be not hindered.

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The Bible literally says if you don't honor your wife,

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if you don't dwell them according to knowledge,

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God may not answer your prayer.

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By the way, this is not feminism.

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This is a biblical manliness.

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Husband needs to pay honor and respect to their wives.

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They are literally your helpmate and raising up the next generation.

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When you are gone, that's why you should honor them.

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You should provide for them well.

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Husbands should praise their wives and honor them. Hey, don't treat your wife as second-class citizens

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Their job is not only in the kitchen to make you a sandwich. So stop making those jokes that degrade biblical

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motherhood

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We should honor any God or then authorities including the government

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That's in the context of Romans 13,

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honor to whom honor is due.

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So many Americans focus on themselves

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and use their liberty for an occasion to the flesh.

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They disobey the law just because they

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want to fulfill their lust.

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They can eat their apple pie all they want.

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I hate apple pies, by the way.

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By the way, that's my opinion.

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I'm not trying to explain the church.

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Good if I leave in chapter one, finally means chapter one.

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Some people may pull that clip up and trying to attack me,

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but anyway.

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So I believe there should be honor between children

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and parents, between husbands and wives,

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toward elderly people, toward authorities,

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toward church leadership, toward fellow Christians,

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and even toward people in general.

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The Bible says in 1 Peter 2 verse number 17,

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honor all men, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.

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Right? We should pay people their due honor.

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We live in a culture where disrespect is often disguised as authenticity.

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They will say things like, well, I just tell it like it is.

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Translate, I have no discretion.

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I have no tact.

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I don't care whom I embarrass.

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By the way, newer Christians often struggle like that.

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They will be imbalanced on what they say.

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They will usually knee jerk to the extreme side.

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But we need to use discretion, and we need to use tact.

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And being truthful does not mean being dishonorable.

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Let me just read to you Proverbs 15 verse 1.

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A soft answer turns away wrath, but the grievous words stir up

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anger.

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Proverbs 25 verse 11.

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A word faithfully spoken is like apples of gold

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in pictures of silver.

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The Bible cares not only whether you speak truth,

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but also whether you know how and when to speak it.

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So I said point number one, the Bible recognizes honor and shame.

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Point number two, honor can help us resolve conflict.

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Honor can help us resolve conflict.

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Now, I've gone through the Book of Philemon on Wednesday night,

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maybe a couple years ago.

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But the Book of Philemon really tells us

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about the honor shame culture in conflict resolution.

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Because I don't know if you know,

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the Bible is more Eastern, right?

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So the Bible does focus more on honor, shame, value.

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So long story short, the book of Philemon

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tells us a story that Onesimus was Philemon's servant.

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And you know, Onesimus had wronged Philemon in some way,

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and he left him.

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He may even have owed Philemon money and stolen from him.

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And somehow Onesimus came into contact with the apostle Paul

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while Paul was in prison.

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And Paul preached the gospel to him.

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And then he got Onesimus saved.

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And Paul then sent Onesimus back to Philemon

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with this letter, pleading to Philemon to receive him back,

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not merely as a servant, but now as a beloved brother

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in Christ.

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Philemon chapter 1, conversion rate.

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So the whole context of the book is Paul pleading by Liban to receive the servant who has defrauded him back.

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Philemon 1.8 says this, wherefore, though I might be much

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bold in Christ to enjoin thee, that which is convenient,

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the way enjoining is to urge or to press you.

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Translate, Apostle Paul was telling Philemon,

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I could have ordered you or pressed you

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to receive on SMS back.

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I could have done that.

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I could have pressed you, urged you, commended you,

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but look at verse number 9.

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Yet for love's sake.

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That's a very honor shame response.

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Yet for love's sake I rather besiege thee,

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being such and one as Paul the agent,

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and now also a prisoner of Jesus Christ.

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Notice what Paul was saying.

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But because I love you,

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I'm not going to force you, urge you, or even command you.

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I'm just going to ask you or entreat you.

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Look at verse number 10.

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I beseech thee for my son Onesimus,

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whom I have begotten in my bounds,

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meaning he got him saved, which in time past was to thee

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unprofitable, but now profitable to thee and to me,

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whom I have sent again, thou therefore receive him,

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that is my own bowels, whom I would have retained with me,

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that in thy stead he might have ministered unto me

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in the bounds of the gospel, but without.

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But without thy mind would I do nothing, that thy benefit should not be, as it were of necessity,

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noticed but willingly.

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So Paul wanted to send him back just to benefit him.

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And Paul wanted Philemon to get him back not of necessity

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or duty, but willingly.

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So Paul, being an apostle and the spiritual leader

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of Philemon, had every right to say, hey,

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you need to receive him back right now.

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But he didn't do that in this case.

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He made an appeal to Philemon to allow

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him to do the right thing.

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You can apply the same principle to the husband and wife.

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The Bible says in Ephesians chapter 5, verse 22,

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wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands

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as unto the Lord.

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So wives are supposed to submit and obey their husbands,

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just like they are supposed to obey God.

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So if the husband tells the wife to do something, the wife should treat it as a commandment of God.

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And the husband has every right to command his wife to do certain things.

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However, you don't always have to start out a conversation by saying,

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I command you to take out the trash.

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Even though they have the right to do so, but for love's sake, hey, let's besiege them as well, right?

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Possessing authority does not mean you have to constantly emphasize your authority.

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Now, there's nothing wrong with asserting your authority

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if your wife is not listening, right?

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There's nothing wrong with saying, hey, I'm your husband,

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and you need to listen right now,

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if the wife is disobeying and just bugging your authority.

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But if your wife is being reasonable and nice,

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just say, can you take out the trash, please?

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By the way, if every time you tell your wife

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to do certain things, you'll be like, I commend you.

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That's kind of odd, right?

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Given maybe a wife is so like this obedient that you have to have your authority, you know, I'm not saying there's never a case, okay?

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Now the same principle can apply to husbands, parents, pastors, employers, and other authorities.

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A father doesn't need to start every sentence by saying, child, I commend you to put on my shoes.

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Usually, hey, put your shoes on. We are leaving. It is usually sufficient, right?

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The person under the authority owes submission and honor, but the person possessing the authority

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should exercise it with love and honor.

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Vol. 1, verse 15.

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Vol. 1, verse 15 says this,

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For perhaps he therefore

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referring to Onesimus,

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he therefore departed for a season

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that thou shouldest receive him forever.

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Hey, maybe he left you so that he could be saved,

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and now you can receive him as a brother in Christ forever, right?

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Look at verse number 16.

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Not now as a servant, but above a servant,

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a brother beloved, especially to me,

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but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh and in the Lord?

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So maybe he left you and came to me so that he could be saved,

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Now he's no-

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no longer a servant but your fellow brother in the Lord,

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so can you receive him back?

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But then Paul appealed to his relationship with Philemon,

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again a very honor shame response.

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Look at verse 17.

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If thou count me therefore a partner,

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receive him as thyself.

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Essentially Paul was saying,

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think about our relationship.

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Relationship matters, folks.

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And sometimes, rather than being forceful on someone,

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you can say things like this, hey, I'm your father.

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I care about you.

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Lying is wrong.

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Please don't do it again.

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Hey, I'm your pastor.

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I know what you're going through.

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And I've watched so many people going through the same thing.

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I care about you.

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And I don't want you to see.

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I don't want to see you to make a decision that you

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are going to regret.

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So I'm asking you to listen to me on this.

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Please don't go down that road.

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Versus saying, hey, I'm the pastor,

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so you need to do what I say.

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Now, this certainly has a place, especially

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when someone needs a clear warning or a clear rebuke,

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right?

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But that shouldn't be every single time.

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Yeah.

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Okay, and God asserted his authority from you know time to time right you know I am the Lord

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There's nothing wrong with that, but God also used reasons appeals invites warnings as well as persuasions

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finally man one look at verse 18

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Volume 118 says this if he has wronged thee you know if he has stolen from you or all the art if he odes

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Anything put that on my account

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I, Paul, have written it with my own hand.

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I will repay it, albeit I do not say to thee how thou oweest unto me even thine own self

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besides."

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Notice what Paul is saying here.

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If you are concerning about how much he has stolen from you, let me just pay for it.

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Just put it on my account, but don't forget, you owe me everything.

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The book is hilarious, by the way.

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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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if your servant has tamed the father you stole from you,

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let me pay for it, but don't forget,

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you owe me everything, Philemon.

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Look at verse 20.

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Ye brother, let me have joy of thee in the Lord,

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refresh my bowels in the Lord,

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have confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee,

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knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say.

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To me, that's a really interesting way

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to convince someone to do what's right.

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And Paul didn't say, hey, I know you are probably

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going to be selfish about this.

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And Paul essentially said this, I

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know what kind of Christian you are.

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I believe you'll do the right thing.

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In fact, I believe you will do more than I'm asking.

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So Paul essentially gave Philemon a reputation

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to live up to rather than simply a reputation to defend.

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Yeah.

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Okay, look at verse 22.

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Verse 22 is hilarious as well if you get what he's saying.

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But with all, prepare me also a lodging, for I trust that through your prayers I shall be given unto you.

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Oh, by the way, get my guest room ready because I'm coming.

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Now Paul didn't say, I'm coming to make sure you did what I told you, but...

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But if I'm Philemon reading this letter,

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I'll be thinking, man, I better get this thing right

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before Paul gets here.

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Because he's like, get my room ready, I'm coming to you.

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So notice the wording that Paul is asking Philemon

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to do the right thing.

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Receive onesimus like you would receive me.

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If he owes you anything, I'll pay for it,

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not that I'm mentioning how you owe me your own self.

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I'm confident you will pay.

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In fact, I know you will do more than I say.

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Oh, by the way, get my room ready because I'm coming.

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So here's something really practical

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when dealing with conflicts.

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Get people a way out.

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get people away out.

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And that's super important in marriage, church, family,

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friendship, because sometimes we will corner people, right?

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And we will publicly confront them,

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and we force them to admit that they were wrong.

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We will make sure that everyone knows that we won.

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And then we are surprised when they become defensive.

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When they become defensive.

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The Bible says,

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Pride goeth before destruction,

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and unholy spirit before it fall.

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So just ask yourself,

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do I want reconciliation,

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or do I simply want victory?

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Now, there are situations when

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public rebukes are necessary.

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But if it's a personal offense,

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if you love your brother,

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you would not want to humiliate him

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in front of everyone else.

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Because you love him,

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and that you honor him.

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you know, turn it over to Romans chapter six.

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Romans chapter number six.

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Sometimes, rather than telling my wife a hard no,

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I will say things like, that wouldn't be convenient.

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Or that seems too complicated.

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Now, sometimes she didn't get a hint,

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but I mean the wife will be like, just like in general,

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I mean the wife will be like, what do you think about this?

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What about doing this?

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And then the husband is like, that wouldn't be convenient.

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But what I really mean is, no, I don't think we should do it.

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But when the wife hears that, she's

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like, there are some logistical difficulties,

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but we can make it more convenient.

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But in my mind, I wouldn't say no.

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But in her mind, hey, you've literally never said no.

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All I said is, that wouldn't be convenient.

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Again, that's how different cultures operate.

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So.

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So I said point number one, the Bible or God

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recognizes honor and shame.

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Point number two, honor can help us resolve conflict.

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Point number three, there is a proper and improper use

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of shame.

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There is a proper and improper use of shame.

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See, our society often treats all shame

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as inherently harmful, but the Bible doesn't.

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And sometimes people ought to be shamed.

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Romans chapter 6, look at verse 20.

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Romans 6 20 says this, For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

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Will fruit have thee then in those things, whereof ye are now ashamed?

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For the end of those things is death.

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Notice what Paul was telling those Christians,

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when you got saved, you will no longer serve in sin

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because you have the freedom to not sin, right?

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So why are you still doing those things

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that condemn you to hell in the first place?

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Shame on you.

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Why are you still sinning?

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Shame on you.

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You ought to be ashamed.

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Go to 1 Corinthians chapter 6.

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1 Corinthians chapter number 6.

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1 Corinthians chapter number 6, look at verse number 5.

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1 Corinthians 6, 5.

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I speak to your shame.

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Is it so that there is not a wise man among you?

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No, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren.

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But brother goeth to law with brother,

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and that before the unbelievers.

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It's actually the Paul was telling them, hey,

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you should know better than this.

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How dare you sue your brethren?

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Shame on you.

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Do the right thing.

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Go to 1 Corinthians 15, 1 Corinthians chapter 15.

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Look at verse 34, 1 Corinthians 15, verse 34.

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The Bible says this,

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Awake to righteousness

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and sing not. For some

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have not knowledge of God, I speak this to your shame.

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So there are two ways to look at this.

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Essentially, Paul was telling them,

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hey, wake up and stop sinning,

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and some of you are ignorant of the knowledge of God.

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You know, that's like preachers would say things like,

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hey, if you've been saved for years,

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but you haven't even read the Bible for one time,

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you ought to be ashamed.

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Amen? So there's nothing wrong with that. But verse 24, you know, I believe the primary context is in

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referring to the Corinthian, there are people around them who are denying the resurrection.

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Those people were not saved to begin with. So the other way to view this is you're supposed to be

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God's people, yet there are people around you who, you know, who don't know about God. Hey, shame on you.

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People who don't have the knowledge of God, right?

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Shame on you for not spreading the word.

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Because the context is about people denying the resurrection.

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Although you can apply the other application, too.

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Go to 2nd Thessalonians chapter 3.

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2nd Thessalonians chapter number 3.

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So shame can be a tool for people to get right.

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The goal should be repentance and not just humiliate them.

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You're insane, that's what we're in chapter three.

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Look at verse 14, second, that's what we're in chapter three.

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Verse 14 says this.

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And if any man obey not our word by this epistle,

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know that man and have no company with him

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that he may be ashamed.

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Everyone who deserves to be kicked out ought to be ashamed.

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Verse 15 says, yet count him not as an enemy,

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but admonish him as a brother,

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because you want him to get right.

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Let him be ashamed, but don't have fellowship with him,

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but don't treat him as your enemy.

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Why?

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Because the objective is not just for him to be destroyed

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and never get right.

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The final goal is restoration.

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So when you're correcting someone, ask yourself,

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am I trying to help him?

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Am I trying to restore him?

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Or am I just trying to embarrass him?

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Am I telling other people because they need to know

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or because I enjoy having the upper hand?

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What's your end goal, right?

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Have some honor shame culture.

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Go to Matthew 23, Matthew 23.

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Point number four. Don't seek honor for yourself. Don't seek honor for yourself.

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Now this is where the honor shame culture becomes dangerous.

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Because honor itself is not wrong, but seeking honor from other men is wrong.

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Matthew 23, look at verse 5. Matthew 23 verse 5 says this,

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But all their works they do for to be seen of man.

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They make bra their phylacteries and enlarge the borders of their garments.

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You know, those, you know, false prophets, priests, bishops, whatever,

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they purposefully wear those, you know, fancy clothing, right? Enlarge their borders and their garments.

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And verse number six, and love the uppermost rooms

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at feast and the chief seats in the synagogues,

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and greetings in the markets, and to be called a man rabbi.

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So their whole life revolved around how people perceived them.

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They purposely wear fancy clothes

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and just to be seen of men.

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You can apply that to, you know.

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Today's age that people post every single deed online and when you give money to a homeless person

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You know first you have to get a camera out

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You help someone struggling, but you know you have to make sure that everyone around you know that you are helping them

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Because you know they think if nobody's if nobody saw me being charitable did I even do charity?

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You know, someone can just read the Bible, you know,

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the Bible, the coffee, and then the highlighter,

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and the notebook need to be perfectly positioned

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for the picture.

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Or that every time they pray, or they fast,

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or they serve at church, everyone needs to hear about it.

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And Jesus Christ specifically addressed doing all this work

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to be seen of men to seek men's praise.

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Or like you may be like the humble brag.

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The humble brag, they'll be like, I'm so exhausted.

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I had to preach six times this week

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and counsel so many people.

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So it sounds like complaining, but the real message may be,

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hey, please notice how important or hardworking I am.

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Go to John chapter five.

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John chapter five.

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Or they will say things like, I don't normally talk about this,

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but I fell led to share that I gave $5,000.

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Well, apparently, you do want to talk about it.

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John chapter 5, look at verse 43.

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John 5, 43 says this.

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I am coming in my father's name, and ye receive me not.

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If another shall come in his own name,

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him he will receive, how can he believe,

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which receive honor one of another,

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and seek not the honor that comeeth from God only?

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Notice Jesus Christ is not teaching honor,

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doesn't matter, he's teaching that you are seeking honor

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from the wrong audience.

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Hey, let God honor you, let God praise you, right?

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Go to John chapter 12, John chapter 12.

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By the way, never let the fear of shame stop you from doing what's right.

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Right.

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John chapter 12, look at verse 42.

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John 12, 42 says this,

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Nevertheless, among the chief rulers also many believed on him.

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But, because of the Pharisees, they did not confess him,

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lest they should be put out of the synagogue.

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Notice in verse 42, some of the chief rulers are actually saved.

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They believe in Christ, but they were afraid of getting kicked out of the synagogue and losing their status, so they hid their faith.

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They did not admit that they were Christians.

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By the way, this proves that there

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could be saved people in Catholic church

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due to their social pressure.

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But if they agree their doctrine,

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they are not saved.

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But some people go there just because of the family pressure,

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just because they take the honor and shame to the extreme.

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They are afraid of men.

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So that's what the chief rulers are.

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They are afraid of getting kicked out of the synagogues.

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Look at verse 43.

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Here's the reason.

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For they love the praise of men more than the praise of God.

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So they are ashamed of being Christians.

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By the way, we should never be ashamed of telling people that we are Christians.

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Hey, don't be ashamed of praying at your work before lunch.

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Don't be ashamed of telling people about Jesus.

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Don't be ashamed of your God, okay?

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Don't be ashamed to carry your Bible.

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Don't be ashamed to tell somebody that you go to church.

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Hey, don't be ashamed to tell people that you go to shoot foundation Baptist Church.

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Amen.

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And don't compromise what you believe

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because you are afraid of your friends who may laugh at you.

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Turn to Luke 14.

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The Bible says in Mark 8, verse 38,

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whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words

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in this adulterous and sinful generation of pain

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also shall the Son of Man be ashamed,

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for he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

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Now it's talking about that you will lose your rewards because you are shameful,

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that you are ashamed of Jesus Christ and the Word of God.

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So we should never preserve our reputation by lying.

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Never compromise scripture to avoid embarrassment.

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Never refuse to apologize because you will lose face.

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Sometimes the most honorable words you can say are,

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I was wrong.

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Maybe I'm wrong.

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I see where you're coming from.

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That's the most honorable thing to do.

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Luke 14, we'll have verse number 7.

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Luke 14, verse 7 says this.

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and he put forth a parable to those which were bidden,

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when he marked how they chose out the chief room,

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saying unto them, when thou art bidden of any man

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to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room,

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lest a more honorable man than thou be bidden of him.

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And he that bathe thee and him come and say to thee,

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give this man place, and thou begin with shame

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to take the lowest room.

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So just imagine the embarrassment when you sit at the highest room, you know, the center seat,

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and then the president walks in and then you have to move.

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Right?

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So look at verse number 10.

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But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room,

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that when he that bathe cometh him may say unto thee, friend,

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go up higher.

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Then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them

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that sit at me with thee.

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What's the principle?

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Instead of seizing honor, allow someone else to give it to you.

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To me, in most Asian Chinese culture,

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when we are at the restaurant, the chief seat

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is reserved to the head of the house.

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It's reserved to the elderly men.

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And so to me, that's a good practice.

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Luke 14, verse 11 says, for whosoever exalted himself

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shall be abased, and he that humbled himself shall be

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exalted.

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Turn to Proverbs 25. Proverbs 25.

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James 4.10 says,

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Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord,

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and he shall lift you up.

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Proverbs 25.

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Look at verse number 6. Proverbs 25, verse number 6.

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So you can see the Bible is pretty honor shame oriented, right?

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Proverbs 25, look at verse number 6.

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Ahem.

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Put not forth thyself in the presence of the king,

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and stand not in the place of great men.

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For better it is that it be said unto thee,

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come hither, than that thou shouldest be put lower

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in the presence of the prince whom thine eyes have seen.

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Same principle.

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Allow someone to give you the honor,

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allow someone to give you the position,

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but don't seek praise of yourself, right?

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Let another man praise thee.

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Let another man give you honor,

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and most importantly, hey, we should seek honor from God.

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And don't constantly demand recognition, okay?

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Don't be offended every time when somebody forgets your name,

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when somebody doesn't realize what you did,

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when somebody else gets praise, gets a promotion,

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when someone else gets acknowledged.

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Let God honor you because our responsibility is humility.

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Go to Hebrews 12, Hebrews 12.

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So I said point number one, the Bible recognizes honor and shame.

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Point number two, honor can help us resolve conflicts.

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Point number three, there's a proper and improper use of shame.

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Point number four, don't seek honor for yourself.

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Lastly, point number five, Jesus took our shame and gave us honor.

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Jesus took our shame and gave us honor, because ultimately honor and shame

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point us to Jesus Christ.

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And sin doesn't just make us guilty, sin is also shameful.

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That's why Apostle Paul was rebuking the Roman Christians by saying that,

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hey, you were doing those things, whereof ye are now ashamed.

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Right? Sin caused shame.

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But in contrast, Jesus Christ endured the shame.

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Romans, Hebrews 12, look at verse number two.

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Hebrews 12, two says this.

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Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith,

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who for the joy that was set before him,

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endured the cross, don't miss this,

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despising the shame, and is sat down

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at the right hand of the throne of God.

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So Jesus Christ wasn't just killed,

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he was stripped, mocked, spat upon, beaten,

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given a crown of thorns, and publicly crucified.

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In Isaiah 50, verse number six, the Bible says,

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I give my back to the smithers and my cheeks

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to them that pluck off the hair.

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I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

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So Jesus Christ, he went through the shame

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that we brought upon him, right?

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And he gave us honor.

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That is salvation.

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20 Philippians chapter 2.

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Philippians chapter number 2.

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So really, honor and shame point us to Jesus Christ

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because sin brought us shame, but Jesus Christ gave us honor.

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And because he endured the shame, and because he brought himself down,

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he went from humiliation to exaltation.

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Philippians chapter 2, let's look at the famous passage about Christ.

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Philippians 2 verse number 6 says this,

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Philippians 2, 6,

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Who, Jesus, being the form of God,

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thought it not robbery to be equal with God,

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but made himself of no reputation,

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and took upon him the form of a servant,

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and was made in the likeness of man.

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That's why the Bible says,

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"...cognizant to man of low estate."

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He brought himself down, verse 8,

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"...and being found in fashion as a man,

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he humbled himself and became obedient unto death,

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even the death of the cross.

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Wherefore God also had highly exalted him."

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He brought himself down, but God gave him honor, right?

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"...and giving him a name which is above every name,

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that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow

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of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth,

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and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is..."

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as Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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So Christ was the perfect example of taking shame

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and seeking honor from God the Father, right?

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Likewise, we should bring our self-love,

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bring ourselves to other people's level,

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and seek honor from God.

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So in conclusion, I hope this sermon will help you learn

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how to deal with conflicts better,

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knowing more about the honor shame culture.

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It will certainly help you deal with me better,

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because I'm from China, OK?

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Because I'm mainly honor and shame type of verbiage,

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or like whatever.

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So Biblical speaking, there's nothing inherently wrong

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about honor.

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The Bible commands honor.

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There's nothing inherently wrong with recognizing shame either.

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The Bible sometimes tell people that they ought to be ashamed.

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The real question is, whose honor matters most to you?

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Don't live your life asking,

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what will everybody think about me?

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Ask yourself, what will God think about me?

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At the same time, don't use that as an excuse

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to be rude, disrespectful, tactless,

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or just unnecessarily humiliating toward other people.

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We should give honor to other people,

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but don't seek honor for yourself.

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Correct shameful behavior when necessary,

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but don't just humiliate people.

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Seek for restoration, and don't fear man's shame

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when obeying God.

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Humble yourself and let God exalt you.

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But above all, seek the honor that comes from God.

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Amen.

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Let's close in with a prayer.

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Thank you, Lord, for.

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for the Bible and thank you for taking our shame and give us honor.

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Lord, I pray that we'll learn to deal with conflict better, to learn how to deal with

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each other in perfect unity. And I pray this in Jesus name, Amen.

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Okay, page 139, your hymnal. We will finish with, I know whom I have believed. 139.

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I know not why God's wondrous grace to me he hath made known,

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nor why unworthy Christ in love redeemed me for his own.

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But I know whom I have believed and am persuaded

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That he is able to keep that which I've committed

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Unto him against that day

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I know not how this saving faith to me he did impart,

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nor how believing in his word brought grace within my heart.

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But I know whom I have believed in, and am persuaded that he is able

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to keep that which I've committed unto him against that day.

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I know not how the Spirit moves, convincing men of sin,

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revealing Jesus through His Word, negating faith in Him.

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But I know whom I have believed.

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And am persuaded that he is able

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To keep that which I've committed

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Unto him against that day

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I know not what of good or real may be reserved for me.

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Of weary ways or golden days before his face I see.

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But I know whom I have believed and am persuaded

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And he is able to keep that which I've committed

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Unto him against that day

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I know not when my Lord may come at night or noon unfair,

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nor if I walk the vale with him or meet him in the air.

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know whom I have believed and am persuaded that he is able to keep that

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which I've committed unto him against that day

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Okay, we'll just finish with a word of prayer here.

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Heavenly Father, we thank you so much for this day at church.

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Lord, thank you for bringing us all together.

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God, just be with us as we go soul-winding today

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and the afternoon service.

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Please bless us, Lord.

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We love and praise you.

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In Jesus' name we pray, amen.

