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Alright, welcome to Sure Foundation Baptist Church. Everybody please find your seats and grab a hymn book. First song we're gonna sing is song

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437 song

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437 in your hymn books

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Battle Hymn of the Dictatorship 437 on the first

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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.

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He is trampling out the vintage where the graves of wrath are stored.

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He hath loosed the fateful lighting of his terrible Swiss sword.

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His truth is marching on.

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Glory, glory, hallelujah!

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OHH

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Glory, glory, hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

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I have seen him in the watch's fires of undress-circling camps.

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They have builded him an altar in the evening dews and damps.

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I can read his righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamp.

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His day is marching on.

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Glory, glory, hallelujah!

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Glory, glory, hallelujah!

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Glory, glory, hallelujah!

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His day is marching on!

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He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never sound retreat.

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He is sifting out the hearts of men before his judgment seat.

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Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer him. Be jubilant, my feet.

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Our God is marching on.

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Glory, glory, hallelujah.

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Glory, glory, hallelujah.

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Glory, glory, hallelujah, our God is marching on.

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In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea

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With a glory in his bosom that transfigures you and me

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As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free

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While God is marching on

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Glory, glory, hallelujah

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Glory, glory, hallelujah

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Glory, glory, hallelujah, while God is marching on.

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Alright, great singing. Brother Wade, would you please open yourself with a word of prayer?

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Amen. All right. Next song is going to be song 177. When Love Shines In, song 177.

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177 on the first. Jesus comes with power to gladden when love shines in.

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Every light that woke and set in when love shines in

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Love will teach us how to pray

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Love will drive the gloom away

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Turn our darkness into day when love shines in

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When love shines in

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When love shines in

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How the heart is tuned to singing

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When love shines in

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When love shines in

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When love shines in

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Joy!

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to others bringing when love shines in.

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How the world will glow with beauty when love shines in.

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And the heart rejoices in duty when love shines in.

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Trials may be sanctified, and the soul and peace abide.

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Life will all be glorified when love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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How the heart is tuned to singing when love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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Joy and peace to others bringing when love shines in.

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Dark is sorrow grow brighter when love shines in

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And the heavy is burden lighter when love shines in

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Tis the glory that will throw,

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Light to show us where to go.

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O the heart shall blessings know,

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When love shines in,

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When love shines in,

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When love shines in.

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How the heart is tuned to singing when love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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Joy and peace to others bringing when love shines in.

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We may have unfading splendor when love shines in

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And a friendship true and tender when love shines in

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When Earth's victory shall be won, and our life in heav' begun,

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There will be no need of sun when love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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When love shines in.

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How the heart is tuned to singing when love shines in

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When love shines in

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When love shines in

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Joy and peace to others bringing when love shines in

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Alright great singing now we're gonna have some announcements

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Alright, welcome to Sho Foundation Baptist Church Sunday morning service.

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If you need the bulletin, please raise your hand and I'll show you.

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to you and welcome to the first

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Service in the month of August we got several people out and believe they are going to the st

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Louis one year anniversary so pray for their safe travel back today

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I believe they reached their 200 salvations for the year this year so praise God for that and

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Let's look at the verse the week Romans 8 18

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The Bible says for I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory

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which shall be revealed in us." And that's really a great verse just talking, thinking about the sufferings we have right now and just comparing to the glorified body that we'll receive, you know, when we get to heaven, you know, there's no comparison to that, right?

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So, you know, whatever the sufferings that we are going through, just, you know, let's put eternity in mind because one day we'll receive the glorified body, we'll receive glory, and we'll see God the Father face to face.

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And let's look at the inside page.

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We're on YouTube, Facebook, Rumble, and X,

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so please give us a follow.

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We have Sunday morning service at 11,

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Sunday afternoon service at four,

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and Wednesday night Bible study at 7 p.m.

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And this Wednesday we'll be covering,

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I believe, Acts chapter 12 or 13,

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whatever the next chapter is.

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So feel free to join us.

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We have Sunday morning this afternoon at 1.30 p.m.

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Depends on the rain, and we'll either go to an apartment

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or a neighborhood, and then we have.

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Saturday morning, Sunday morning at 1030 a.m. Also we had five salvations yesterday, praise God for that,

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and which makes our year today's salvation being 802 salvations. Praise God for that,

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we've already broken 800, so the next goal is 1,000. Okay, I believe we can do it. So...

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Upcoming events, we have our annual fall fellowship

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at the local park on Saturday, October 3rd.

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So please save the date, there will be good food,

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volleyball, basketball, pickleball,

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and feel free to bring any cornhole board game

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that you want, and we have a great fellowship there.

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So we'll probably meet somewhere,

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we'll probably meet at around four.

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for like 430 and then the picnic will be ready probably around 6 so you can spend as long as you want

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that that that evening and then if you're traveling from out of town

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just let me know if you want to stay at a hotel because we do have a discount rate at a local hotel

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so you can come for the fellowship on Saturday and stay so you can come here on Sunday without

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driving back and forth, you know if you want

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And then the next big ceremony event is the Purdue University

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the West Lafayette campus on August 22nd.

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So the event is already on the guideresource.com.

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So please RSVP.

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And then I put the event on the website,

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but not the detail.

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I'll probably finalize all the meetup locations this week.

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But please RSVP, okay, because if you don't.

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You still get food with only water, okay?

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So anyway, and then on August 30,

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that's the last Sunday of August

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during the afternoon service,

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we'll have a man's preaching night.

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Any man who wants to preach a short sermon,

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please let me know and then I'll get you plugged in.

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And then type in offerings for the month of July,

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it's for you to see.

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On the back, you can see the birthdays

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and the anniversary coming up.

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for the month of August. If your dates are not on there, please let me know so I can keep your

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information up to date. And the seventh is Miss Rachel's birthday and the Mohe family is on

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vacation this week, so please pray for their safety. And yeah, I think that's it. Let's sing

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one more song and then we'll take out the offering.

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Alright, this song is going to be song 334.

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Song 334, make me a blessing.

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Song 334 in your handbooks.

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Psalm 334 on the 1st.

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Out in the highways and byways of life, many are weary and sad.

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Carry the sunshine where darkness is rife, Making the sorrowing glad.

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Make me a blessing, Make me a blessing,

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Out of my life, May Jesus shine.

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Make me a blessing, oh Savior, I pray.

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Make me a blessing to someone today.

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Tell the sweet story of Christ and his love.

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Tell of his power to forgive.

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Others will trust him if only you prove

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true every moment you live.

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Make me a blessing

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Make me a blessing

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Out of my life

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May Jesus shine

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Make me a blessing, oh Savior, I pray.

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Make me a blessing to someone today.

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Give as was given to you in your need. Love as the Master loved you.

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Be to the helpless a helper indeed. Unto your mission be true.

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Make me a blessing

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Make me a blessing

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Out of my life

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May Jesus shine

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Make me a blessing, oh Savior I pray.

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blessing to someone today.

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Alright, great singing.

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Usher, please come up for the offering.

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Brother Steven, can you please pray for the offering?

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Amen.

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Alright, we'll be in Romans chapter 8 this morning. If anyone needs a Bible, just raise your hand and I'll sure will give one to you

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Romans chapter 8

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Just follow on your Bible so whole chapter will be read

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Romans separate the Bible reads.

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There is therefore now no condemnation to them,

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which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh,

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but after the Spirit.

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For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus

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hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

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For what

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For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sent in his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh,

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and for sin condemns sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us.

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Who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit?

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For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh,

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but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

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for to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

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Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

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So then, they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

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But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit. If so, be that Christ

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The Spirit of God dwell in you.

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Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

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But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised

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up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by a spirit that dwelleth in you.

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Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

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For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die.

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But if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

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For as many are led by the Spirit of God, there are the sons of God.

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For ye have not received the Spirit of bondage again to fear, but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba Father.

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The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God,

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and if children then heirs, heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ,

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if so that we suffer with him, and we also be glorified together.

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For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

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For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

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For the creature was made subject to vanity not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope.

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because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption

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into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation

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groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also,

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which have the firstfruits of the Spirit. Even we ourselves groan with ourselves,

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waiting for the adoption to wit the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope.

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But the hope that is seen is not hope, for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

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But if we hope that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

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Likewise, the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities, for we know not what we should pray for as

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we ought.

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But the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

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And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

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And we know that all things were together to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

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For whom he did for know.

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He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his son, that he might be the

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firstborn among many brethren.

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Moreover, whom he did predestinate, them he also called, and whom he called, them he also

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justified, and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

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What shall we then say to these things?

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God before us, who can be against us?

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He that spared not his own son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also

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freely give us all things? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that

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justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even

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at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us,

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who shall separate us from the love of Christ,

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shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine,

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or nakedness, or peril, or sword, as it is written,

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for thy sake we are killed all the day long,

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we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.

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Nay, in all things we are more than conquerors through whom that loved us.

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For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor

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powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other

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creature shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our

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Lord.

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Brother Landon, could you pray us to the service?

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In Romans chapter 8, let's look at verse 22, Romans 8 22, the Bible says,

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For we know that a whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now,

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and not only day, but ourselves also, which have the first fruits of the Spirit.

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Even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption to wit the redemption of our body.

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Now I'll come back to this passage later, but one of the most common objections to

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theism or Christianity is the problem of evil and sufferings. Because the atheists

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will say things like if God is all loving and all powerful then why are

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there so much so many sufferings in the world right? Why do people get sick? Why

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do people go through evil times? Why do people get you know murdered and so on

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and so forth? And the answer to this question can be pretty simple

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because we can use the moral argument, right?

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Because if you don't even believe in moral absolutes,

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you cannot even say if anything is good or evil.

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So the very reason that people think something is evil

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presupposes an objective

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morality and if there is an objective morality,

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then you can deduce a moral lawgiver

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or some kind of a higher power.

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Go to Romans chapter two.

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Romans chapter two, the Bible actually teaches

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this principle of an objective morality.

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Romans chapter two, look at verse 12.

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The Bible says this.

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For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law,

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and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law."

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So even if you don't have the law of God or any sort of law, you will still be judged by the law.

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Look at verse 13.

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For now the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

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For when the Gentiles which have not the law, the Gentiles were not given, you know, say the laws in the...

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Testament, do by nature the things contained in the law, these having not a law, are a law unto

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themselves. So why do the Gentiles conform to the law even though they did not have the law?

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Look at verse 15, which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also

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bearing witness, and their thoughts the meanwhile accusing or else excusing one another. Because

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deep down in our conscience, deep down in our heart, we know that murder is

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always wrong, right? We know that stealing people's possession is always wrong. Now if

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atheism is true, if we are just the product of time, chance, and matter, then where does

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objective good and evil come from? Right? Without an objective moral standard, we cannot

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even say murder is objectively evil.

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People can only say that maybe I don't like it,

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or maybe our society disproves of it,

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but without an objective moral standard,

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you cannot even say anything is good or evil.

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So the problem of human suffering is pretty easy to debunk,

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because in order for them to raise the question,

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they are actually borrowing from the Christian worldview.

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However, this response...

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This response doesn't really address the problem of evil.

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I mean, this response only shows that atheists cannot even raise the question, again, without borrowing from a Christian perspective.

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But as Christians, we know exactly what's absolute good. We know exactly what's absolute evil.

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We don't need to debate about whether lying, murder, adultery, abortion...

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is right or wrong, right?

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Because the Bible says it, okay?

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So as Christians, we do believe

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in an objective moral standard.

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Now the real question is, where did evil come from?

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And we know that the Bible teaches

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that sin entered into the world,

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and God gave him free will,

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and God can use suffering for good,

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and Christ suffered for us,

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and heaven will make everything right.

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Okay, so basically that's everything in a...

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in a nutshell.

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However, some atheists are getting smarter

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in their argument, although they are still

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fools based on the Bible.

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So they are getting smarter in their argument about evil

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and suffering.

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They will argue that the moral argument does not

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pertain to animal suffering.

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Because human suffering is easy to debunk because man's sin and we have free will and God can use the suffering for good.

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But they will argue that animals are not moral.

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Animals didn't rebel against God.

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Animals don't grow spiritually.

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You know, animals don't choose evil,

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yet they still experience starvation, parasites, disease,

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murder, gruesome death in the wild, right?

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So I think it's kind of an interesting objection.

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I heard one atheist said this.

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you

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He said it's difficult to understand why an all-loving God would create conscious creatures

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capable of immense suffering when they receive none of the moral or spiritual benefits humans

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supposedly receive.

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You know, again, like I said, I do think that it's an interesting objection against God.

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So let's answer it from the Bible this morning.

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So the title of the sermon this morning is called Animal Suffering.

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OK, animal suffering.

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Although, like I talked about earlier,

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that human suffering is easy to debunk

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because they have to presuppose an absolute moral standard.

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However, they will argue that animals suffer,

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but they didn't rebel.

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They're not moral creatures, and that's their argument.

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So let me just try to address the problem of animal suffering

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from the Bible this morning.

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Turn to Genesis chapter 1.

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Genesis chapter 1.

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Thanks for watching!

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Point number one, God did not create a world full of death.

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God did not create a world full of death.

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In chapter one we'll look at verse 29.

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Genesis 1 29 the Bible says this and God said behold I have given you every herb bearing seed

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Which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree in the which is the fruit of a tree?

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Yodding seed to you it shall be for meat and to every beast of the earth and to every fowl of the air and to everything

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That creepeth upon the earth wherein there is life

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I have given every green herb for meat and it was so and God saw everything that he had made

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And behold, don't miss this phrase, it was very good.

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And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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So when God finished his creation after six literal days, God said, you know, everything

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was very good.

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Okay?

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Now, there is no verse that says there was no death before the fall of man.

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But God never calls death good, right?

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Death is an enemy, needs to be defeated.

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And the original creation was very good,

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based on the Bible.

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So I believe there was no death before the fall.

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And based on verse 29, men were given the Eden diet,

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in that they were only eating herbs and fruits, okay?

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And based on verse number 30,

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even the animals were supposed to eat

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plants and only until after the flood people were permitted to eat animals. Go to Genesis chapter 9.

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Genesis chapter 9 look at verse number 1.

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Genesis 9 verse 1

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The Bible says this, and God blessed Noah and his sons and said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, and the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea, into your hand are they delivered, every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you, even as the green herb have I given you all things.

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So after the Noah's flood, God told them, hey, now you can eat every moving thing, every

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single animal, just like the vegetables you ate before the fall.

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And that's another evidence to believe that animals didn't really die before the fall

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since they were not even supposed to be eaten until after the flood.

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And even the animals were supposed to eat vegetables before the fall.

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Okay, and go to Isaiah chapter 11.

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Isaiah chapter 11.

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Now Isaiah 11 is a prophecy of the millennial reign of Christ.

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After the seven year end time, Isaiah 11, look at verse number 6.

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Isaiah 11 verse number 6.

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you

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Because the point I'm trying to make is God did not create a world full of death. Isaiah 11, look at verse number 6. The Bible says this.

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The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopards shall lie down with the kid, and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together, and the little child shall lead them."

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So even the predators, even the vicious animals, they dwell peacefully together during the millennial reign of Christ.

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Look at verse number seven.

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And the cow and the bear shall feed, their young ones shall lie down together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

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So during the millennium...

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all these carnivals, they went back to this eaten vegan diet, right?

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Look out for some bread.

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And the sucking child shall play on the whole of the asp.

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Even babies can play where snakes are at.

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And the winged child shall put his hand on the cockatrice then.

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In other words, cockatrice simply means an adder.

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That's the same word.

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Simply means a viper.

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So the Bible is teaching that during the millennial reign

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of Christ, even kids and babies can play with the snakes.

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They can play with those vipers.

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Version 1.

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29. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full

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of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

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So I believe during the millennial kingdom, you know, this kingdom kind of resets the earth back to the state of the Garden of Eden.

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So to me the millennium is a transitional period before the eternal state when there will be no more death.

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That's why I presuppose before the fall there was no animal death since the millennium is a transitional period back to the state of Eden.

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where there is no death.

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Go to Isaiah 65, Isaiah 65.

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Look at verse 25, Isaiah 65 verse 25.

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See, even though there's no verse that says that there was no death before the fall,

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but just based on the principles in the Bible, I do believe that there was no death

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occurring before the fall of man. Isaiah 65, look at verse 25. The Bible says,

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The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock,

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and thus shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain,

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saith the Lord." Again, point number one is God did not create a world full of death.

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Okay, now let's go back to Genesis chapter two. Genesis chapter number two.

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So point number two this morning is that the curse affected the entire creation.

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The curse affected the entire creation.

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Genesis chapter two, look at verse 15.

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The Bible says,

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Okay, although the primary context is the spiritual death because the Bible says in the day when you ate it

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You will die and we knew that they did not die physically. Okay, although this I do believe also points to the eventual

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Physical death go to Genesis chapter 3 Genesis chapter 3 so God told you know Adam and Eve

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You know if you eat the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you will die. Look at Genesis chapter 3 look at verse 17

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Genesis 317 this was after you know they ate the forbidden fruit and you know and they sinned. Genesis 317

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The Bible says and unto Adam he said because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife

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And hast eaten of the tree of which I commended thee saying thou shalt not eat of it cursed is the ground

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Don't miss this for thy sake because of Adam saying the ground is cursed in sorrow

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Shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life

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thorns also and thistles shall it future times bring forth to thee because of

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man's fall now plants produce thorns and thistles and thou shall eat the herb of

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the field in the sweat of thy face shall thou eat bread till thou return onto the

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ground for out of it was thou was thou taken for dust thou art and unto dust

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shall thou return

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That's why I believe the physical death of Adam and Eve

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and also mankind is also part of the curse.

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That's why God had to guard,

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that's why God had to guard the tree of life

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so that they would not live forever after the fall.

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Okay, that's why I believe, you know,

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man will live forever before the fall, okay?

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But the primary detail is because of man's sin,

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the ground is cursed.

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The whole creation is cursed.

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And the curse did not just affect mankind,

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but also the ground, but also the earth.

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Now go to Romans chapter 5.

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Romans chapter number 5.

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you

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Look at verse number 12, Romans 5 verse number 12.

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Romans 5 12

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The Bible says Romans 5 12

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Wherefore as by one man talking about Adam sin entered

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Into the world and death by sin and so death passed upon all men for that all have sinned

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Of course the immediate context is talking about

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Humans spiritual death, but after Adam sinned the earth was cursed

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And you can assume based on Genesis 3, Genesis 3, 18,

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that there were no thorns or thistles before the fall.

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And the Bible says that, you know,

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curse is the ground for thy sake, for Adam's sake.

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Because of Adam's sin, not just human,

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but the ground is cursed.

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That's why, you know, you can rate a secondary application

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in Romans 5-12 that by one man sin entered into the world,

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that the curse affected not just mankind,

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but the entire creation as well.

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In fact, that's what Romans 8.

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That's what Romans 8 teaches.

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Go to Romans chapter 8.

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Romans chapter 8.

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Look at verse 19, Romans chapter 8 verse 19.

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The Bible says, for the earnest expectation of the creature

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waited for the manifestation of the sons of God.

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Now, I submit to you that the creature here is referring to non-human creations based on the context.

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As we go through Romans chapter 8, I will make it clear.

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The Bible says all the creatures are waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God.

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Who are the sons of God? That's the same.

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Look at verse number 14. The Bible defines it for you.

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For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the same.

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sons of God. So the Bible is teaching in verse 19 that the creatures, non-human

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creatures, they are waiting for the manifestation or the

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revealing of the saved. So what's Paul talking about? They are waiting for when

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the saved receive their glorified body at the rapture, right? That's when we

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get manifested. In fact, go to verse number 18 to see the context. Romans 8

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18.

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for I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."

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Okay, again, us is talking about believers.

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Now here the glory is not referring to the rewards in heaven because the Bible does not say the glory which shall be revealed to us.

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The Bible says the glory which shall be

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revealed in us.

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I believe it's talking about the glorified body.

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You know, it's pointing to the manifestation of the saved.

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Now, you might ask, but animals still die after the rapture.

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Animals still die after we get our glorified body.

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Thanks for watching!

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Now I believe the concept is the glorification of the believers, which begins the final stage of God's plan to, you know,

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to, you know, I believe the glorification begins the final stage of God's plan to redeem the mankind.

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And that's all finalized.

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when we appear with Jesus in glory

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to start his millennial kingdom,

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and then which leads up to the eternal state.

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OK, so all you can say that this manifestation

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is talking about a public glorification of the believers

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when Christ comes to set his kingdom.

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But again, the Bible says the creature.

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They are waiting for the revealing and the manifestation of the said when we get our glorified body, which kicks off the eternal state.

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So look at verse number 20.

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Hopefully I'm not confusing you.

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Romans 8.20.

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The Bible says,

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for the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who had subjected the same in hope.

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So all non-human creatures, they are subject to vanity, they are subject to emptiness, involuntarily, because of what happened through Adam.

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Because the ground did not rebel against God. Mankind rebelled, and the whole creation was placed under the curse as a result of man's sin.

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and the creature was made subject to vanity by reason of him.

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Now I believe him is referring to God because God subjected creation to vanity because of Adam's sin,

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because Adam didn't curse the ground. God did. Okay?

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And God has subjected the same in hope. What hope?

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God didn't curse the creation for no reason.

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One day he would restore the creation.

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Look at the next verse for context.

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Look at verse 21.

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Because the creature itself also

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shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption

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into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

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That's why God has subjected the same in hope

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because the creation itself will not be a...

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and the creation itself will not be under the curse forever.

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One day, one day the creation will be delivered

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from the corruption.

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Keep in place in Romans chapter eight,

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go to Ecclesiastes chapter three.

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I'm not teaching that animals get glorified bodies

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and they go to heaven when they die, OK?

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And the Bible is teaching that the creature will

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share the effects of the liberty given to the children of God

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in that they will be liberated from their curse and vanity.

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because the animals will not receive the same liberty as the children of God,

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but they will enter into the effects.

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of that liberty, just like when Adam sinned,

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they entered into the, they entered to the effects

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of the curse, right?

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And when we are redeemed, they will actually partake

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in this liberty, you know, obviously not, you know,

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he's not referring to the glorified body,

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but there will be no more curse, there will be no more,

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you know, death, and there will be no more eating each other.

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Okay?

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Uri in Ecclesiastes chapter three, look at verse 21.

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And the Bible says this,

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Who knoweth the spirit of men that goeth upward,

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and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

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Here the Bible says the spirit of the beast,

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the spirit of the animals that go down to the earth.

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Now again that's the same word of breath.

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Let me read to you.

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Genesis 7, 15.

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And they, the animals, went in unto Noah,

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went in unto Noah, in the ark,

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two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

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So the Bible says the animals does have breath,

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you know, animals has their own spirit.

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Look at verse number 19.

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Ecclesiastes chapter 3 verse 19.

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The Bible clarified that for you.

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For that which befoeth the sons of man befoeth the beast.

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Even one thing befoeth them as the one died,

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so so died the other, yea, they have all one breath.

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Again, that's the same word.

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So that a man have no preeminence above a beast

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for all his vanity, all go unto one place,

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all of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

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So the Bible says when animals die,

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They don't have an-

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They don't have an afterlife. They just die.

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Unlike the humans, go to chapter 12.

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Go to Ecclesiastes chapter 12, look at verse number 7.

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So, regarding the physical death, animals just die.

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However, human beings have a different direction after we die.

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Look at verse number 7.

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You are in Isaiah chapter 12, look at verse number 7.

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Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was,

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and the spirit shall return to God who gave it.

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Now the context is talking about human beings.

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Look at verse number 1.

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Remember now that Creator in the days of thy youth,

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while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh,

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when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them.

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So the difference between humans and just all the other creatures is, you know, animals just die,

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but when we die, the spirit goes back to God, okay?

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So again, I'm not teaching that animals have an afterlife,

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but they will partake in the Liberty as I'll talk more about it later.

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Go back to Romans chapter 8.

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Romans chapter number 8.

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Look at verse 22, Romans 8, 22.

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The ball says this, Romans 822.

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for we know that the whole creation groaneth

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and travilleth in pain together until now.

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So the entire creation, hey, animals, the ground,

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they are subject to decay, right?

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Animals are subject to pains and sufferings,

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being like eaten and all kind of other things.

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Okay, verse 23, that's the proof text

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that the creature is talking about non-human creatures.

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Romans 8, 23.

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And now.

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only day but ourselves also which have the first fruits of the Spirit even we

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ourselves grown within ourselves waiting for the adoption to with the

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redemption of our body so verse 23 makes it clear that the creature and the

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creation is not talking about humans or the same but non-human creation because

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the Bible makes a comparison between day and ourselves also that means the

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animals they are so

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subject to vanity, and they are waiting

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for the manifestation of the sons of God.

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I hope I'm making my points clear,

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because after we get to rule and reign with Christ,

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they will no longer eat each other, right?

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So they are partaking in this liberty,

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although they don't share the same liberty as the saved.

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That's why the Bible says the whole creation is just waiting for the redemption and waiting for the manifestation.

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And we ourselves also, we are waiting for the redemption of our body.

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Okay?

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Now, now we can argue if it's fair for God to curse the earth due to Adam's sin,

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but the Bible teaches that because of Adam's sin the earth is cursed, whether you like it or not.

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Okay?

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And the Bible makes it clear that animals suffer as a result of the fall, whether you like it or not.

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And as Christians, we don't decide doctrine by what seems fair to us, right?

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We determine doctrines by what God has said.

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So just ask yourself a very simple question. Does God have the right to judge his own creation?

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And of course it does.

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Okay, so the problem of animal sufferings do not disapprove God at all

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because the atheists will say that, you know, if God is all loving, why is there so much suffering?

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But again, the question still presupposes that objective evil exists

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because if suffering is truly evil and not a personal preference, then, you know,

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then we have an objective moral standard.

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Plus, when the atheists ask the question about the animal

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suffering, they are also assuming

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that a perfectly loving God would not

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have morally sufficient reason for allowing animal suffering.

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Notice the logic because they presuppose that a perfectly loving God do not have any

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Moral morally sufficient reason to allow animal suffering because it assumes that if we cannot think of a good reason

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Then there cannot be one

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Again, that's their argument, right?

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Also, they also presuppose that

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They know how an all-powerful all loving God ought to act

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See, like, the problem of doubting, you know, why does a loving God tolerate animal suffering,

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they are basically saying that they know how an all-loving, all-powerful God ought to act.

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But unless someone is omniscient, they're not even at the position to even question

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why God does this, why God does that, okay?

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And some people try to solve the problem by saying

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animals don't really suffer like humans do.

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Now I do believe that animals do not possess

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the same moral conscience, self-awareness,

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or even spiritual capacity as human.

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They don't think about eternity, right?

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But let's not overstate the case.

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Because the Bible does say that animals...

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they do experience pain and death.

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They do, you know, Romans 8 says,

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the whole creation groans under the curse.

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Okay, so like the Bible does teach that they do suffer,

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so the biblical answer is not that animals never suffer.

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You know, the biblical answer is that their suffering

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is one of the consequences of Adam's fall.

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Okay, that's the biblical answer.

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And one application we can take away from this is,

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your sins affect other people,

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sometimes even non-human creatures, right?

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Because one man's sin affect the whole creation.

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The earth is cursed.

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Now we have thorns and thistles.

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Now we have death.

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Because sin always has victims, right?

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Adam sinned, and the whole creation suffered.

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And our sins likewise can bring consequences to our families,

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churches, communities, sometimes even to the animals,

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sometimes even to the environment.

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Although I'm not the pro, the earth recycling guy,

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but we should not just trash the environment on purpose.

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However, I do want to mention something

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that may be pretty interesting to you,

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because I just thought about this while writing the sermon.

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Because based on Romans chapter eight,

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the entire creation groans and travails

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and waits for the redemption of the saved.

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It never say that they will be discarded.

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And we know for sure that during the millennium,

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human life was greatly extended, okay?

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Actually, I'll go to Isaiah 65, Isaiah 65.

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Look at verse number 20, Isaiah 65, verse number 20.

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Isaiah 65 verse 20. The Bible says this.

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Isaiah 65 20, there shall be no more dance and infant of days, nor an old man that have

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not filled his days, for the child shall die and hundred years old, but a sinner being

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and hundred years old shall be accursed.

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So verse 20 illustrates the idea that human life will be greatly extended.

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The Bible says even a child shall die at 100 years old.

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So again, because the millennium is a transitional stage until the eternal state, because it

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kind of resets the world to the Garden of Eden.

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So we know for sure based on Isaiah

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that there will be animals during the millennium, right?

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Because they live peacefully with men.

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The problem is what about the eternal state?

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Or will there be animals in heaven?

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Because think about it logically, right?

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Because we know there are animals during the millennium,

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but what about the eternal state?

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OK?

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Now, I'm not talking about supernatural creatures

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mentioned in the book of Revelation.

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I'm talking about the animals we know now,

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like cats, dogs, horses, whatever, okay?

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And when talking about spending eternity in heaven,

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technically, we spend eternity on the new earth, right?

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the New Jerusalem would descend from heaven.

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So the real question is, will there

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be animals in the New Earth after the millennium?

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Because I've never thought about that.

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And when I wrote this sermon, I started brainstorming.

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Thanks for watching!

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But here's the thing, the Bible doesn't really say that.

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The Bible does not really say either or.

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But one thing for sure is we know

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animals do live during the millennial reign of Christ.

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So let me give you three positions,

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because if you know me, I love playing the devil's advocate.

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Position number one.

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Animals die during the millennium but become immortal in the new earth.

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Position number one, animals die during the millennium but become immortal in the new earth.

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Go to 1 Corinthians 15.

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The novel is in Revelation 21 verse 4.

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and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes

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and there shall be no more death.

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I believe the no more death,

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if that's referring to all creatures,

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then animals would also cease dying

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because they are part of the creation

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that has been delivered from the bondage of corruption.

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Although the no more death here is referring to humans

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in its immediate context.

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Although the Bible does say in Romans,

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verse 821, because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption.

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So you can argue that this bondage of corruption is, you know, death is included in that, so

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when we get to the eternal state, there will be no more animal death as well.

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going in 1 Corinthians 15, look at verse 23,

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1 Corinthians 15, verse 23.

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The Bible says but every man in his own order cries the first fruits after what they that they that are Christ

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And he's coming then come at the end when he shall have delivered of the kingdom to God even the father

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When he shall have put down all rules and all authority and power for he must reign till he had put all enemies

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Till he had put all enemies under his feet the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death so death

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It will be destroyed before we enter into the eternal state,

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when we enter into the new earth and the new Jerusalem.

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So the timeline will be, during the God of Eden,

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there's no animal death.

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And after the fall, animal death enters.

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And then during the millennial reign of Christ,

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animals still die.

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but the curse is greatly reduced.

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And then when we get to the new earth,

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death completely is abolished.

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So that's position number one, that animals still

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die during the millennium, but becomes

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immortal in the new earth, because death is abolished.

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Position number two, animals continue reproducing and dying

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forever as usual.

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you

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That's place number two because like revelation 21 for only talks about human death and animals

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are never said to be immortal, therefore animals continue normal biological life forever.

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Now personally I don't really agree with this view because to me death is the greatest manifestation of the corruption.

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So if corruption is removed, I'd expect death to be removed as well.

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Especially, I believe, during the Garden of Eden, there's no animal death.

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So this position says animals just keep reproducing and dying forever.

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Although I don't really agree with this perspective.

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Here is position number three.

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Animals no longer reproduce after the millennium.

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And the Bible says that the saved neither marry

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or are given in marriage in resurrection

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after they get their glorified body, right?

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But the Bible never addresses

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whether animals reproduce in eternity.

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So some people apply this to animals,

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but that's entirely speculative, okay?

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So these are the three positions I can come up.

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But personally, I do think position one makes the most sense,

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that animals will exist on the new earth,

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and they wouldn't really die.

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Especially concerning that the new earth is going back

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to the state of Eden, and there were no animals dying

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before the fall.

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you

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and death itself has been abolished after the millennium,

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so I assume that there will be no animal death as well.

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However, if you're holding position number one,

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there's a follow-up question, okay?

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Because if animals exist on the New Earth and never die,

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will they keep reproducing?

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Right, again, you know...

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I like playing the what-if games.

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If they truly exist forever and never

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die during the eternal state, will they keep reproducing?

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But again, just realize that the Bible doesn't really

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say any of that.

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So I'm just simply speculating.

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So option number one, animals continue reproducing forever.

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That's the first option.

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Now, I don't think that's feasible because soon

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you will run into population issues, right?

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But here's the second option.

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Animals no longer reproduce when they enter

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into the eternal state.

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Now, I do think that's more plausible

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because I think if the Earth is already filled,

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there's no point to keep filling it

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because the command to the...

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Because the command given to God to the animals is in Genesis 1, in Genesis 1 22

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The Bible says and God blessed them saying be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters

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And fill the waters in the seas and and let foul

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Multiply in the earth. Okay, so if the earth is already filled. There's no point to keep filling it

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Okay, so I do believe if animals

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Exist during the during the eternal state they would just stop reproducing

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Okay, again, I think that's more plausible because I don't think God will allow it to run into the entire earth is filled with animals.

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But again, here's another follow-up question. What about plants?

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Again, you know I can keep playing the game. Okay now plants were given as food even before the fall and the Bible never talks about

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Plants dying so plant death is a different type of death. That's out of that's

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That's completely out of the scope of this discussion. Okay

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So I do think plants will still quote, unquote, die,

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but there probably won't be any weeds and thorns,

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since these are the result of the curse.

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Again, these are my thoughts.

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Feel free to disagree with me after the service.

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I think it's pretty interesting to speculate,

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because one thing we know for sure

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is animals do exist during the millennium.

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So the question is, what about a new earth?

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Turn to Psalm 36.

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Psalm 36.

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So I lean on they will still exist, they will be immortal, but they will stop reproducing.

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So I said point number one, God did not create a world full of curse. Point number two,

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the curse affected the entire creation. Point number three, God still cares about animals.

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God still cares about animals. Psalm 36, look at verse number five.

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Psalm 36 verse 5. The Bible says,

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Thy mercy, O Lord, is in the heavens,

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and Thy faithfulness reacheth unto the clouds.

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Thy righteousness is like the great mountains,

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Thy judgments are a great deep.

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O Lord, Thou preserve'st man and beast.

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So the Bible says,

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You know, God keeps the humans as well as the animals, okay?

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Turn to Psalm 104, Psalm 104.

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We will read a good chunk of Psalm 104.

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We'll have verse number 10, Psalm 104, verse number 10.

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The Bible says this Psalm 104 verse 10

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He sendeth the springs into the valleys, which run among the hills.

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They give drink to every beast of the field.

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The wild asses quench their thirst.

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By them shall the fowls of the heaven have their habitation, which sing among the branches.

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He water the hills from his chambers.

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The earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works.

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He causes the grass to grow for the cattle and the herb for the

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service of man that he may bring forth food out of the earth, and wine that maketh glad

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the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's

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heart.

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The trees of the Lord are full of sap, the cedars of Lebanon which he have planted, where

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the birds make their nest as for the stork, the fir trees are her house, the high hills

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RE Refuge for the wild ghosts?

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and the rocks for the conies.

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He, God, appointed the moon for seasons.

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The sun knoweth he is going down.

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Thou makest darkness, and it is night.

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Wherein all the beasts of the forest do creep forth,

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the young lions roar after their prey and seek their meat.

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From God the sun ariseth.

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They gather themselves together and lay them down in their dens.

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Men go forth unto his way.

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and to his labor until the evening.

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So the Bible is very clear that God feeds the animals

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and God made the springs and God gave drink to every animal

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and God watches them and God designed them.

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Okay?

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And in verse 21, the Bible even says,

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the young lions, they seek their food,

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they seek their meat from God

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because God provides for them and God sustains them.

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Look at verse 24.

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O Lord, how manifold are thy works, and in wisdom hast thou made them all.

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The earth is full of thy riches, so is this great NYC, wherein are things creeping innumerable.

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So all the creeping, you know, centipede, millipede, you know, all these things, all

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the creeping things are made by God, both small and great beasts.

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go to ships, there is that Leviathan.

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whom thou hast made to play their aim, these wait upon thee.

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All the animals that wait upon God,

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that thou mayest give them their meat in due season,

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that thou givest them together, thou openest thy hand,

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they are filled with good, thou hide'st thy face,

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they are troubled.

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So if God.

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Doesn't provide for them then you know they'll just go you know days without food right thou takes away their breath

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They die and return to their dust thou sentence forth thy spirit. They are created again the Bible equates breath and spirit

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Together

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Thou renewest the face of the earth, the glory of the Lord shall endure forever, the Lord

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shall rejoice in his works."

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So Psalm 104 is abundantly clear that God provides food for the animals.

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God provides for the lions.

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God provides water for wild animals.

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God gives birthplace to the nest.

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And God sustains every living creature.

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So God does care about the creation, God does care about the creation.

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about the animals, turn to Matthew chapter six.

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Matthew chapter number six.

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Matthew chapter 6, look at verse 25.

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Matthew 6 25

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The Bible says this

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Therefore I say unto you take no thought for your life what you shall eat or what you shall drink

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nor yet for your body

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What ye shall put on is not the life more than meat and the body than raiment.

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So here in verse 25, the Bible, Jesus Christ is making it clear that don't worry about

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what you're going to eat, drink, or your clothing because our life is more than that.

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But then he makes a comparison of verse 26.

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Behold the fowls of the air, for they sow not, neither do they reap nor gather into barns,

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Yet your heavenly father feedeth them, or eateth them.

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not much better than day. So God genuinely cares for the animals because the birds, they

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don't plant crops, but God still provides for them. But human beings are of greater

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value than any animal, so if God feeds birds, how much more will he care for his children?

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That's the point that God is making here. Go to Matthew chapter 10. Matthew chapter

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time.

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So it's not that God doesn't care about the animals,

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God does care for the animals, but human values

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are far greater.

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Matthew chapter 10, look at verse 28.

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Matthew 10, 28.

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and fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell,

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are now two sparrows, so for a farthing, and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your father."

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So even a sparrow...

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When he dies, God allows that, God permits that, because they should not fall on the ground without God the Father's approval.

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Look at verse number 30.

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Notice the Bible does not say that sparrows are worthless. The Bible says, you know, we as God's children

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We are worth far more. Okay

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Go to Proverbs chapter 12 Proverbs chapter 12

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and

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Think about the story of Jonah God even rebuked Jonah for not having compassion by mentioning cattle

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Okay, so God does care about animal life, but again human lives are far greater.

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In Proverbs chapter 12.

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Proverbs chapter 12.

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Look at verse 10, Proverbs 12-10.

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The Bible says,

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The Bible says a righteous man regarded the life of his beast.

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However, some people would twist this verse to teach that we should never kill animals

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to eat them because the Bible says we should regard the life of the beast.

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But notice this phrase, he's beast.

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Okay, so I do believe the context is talking about the animal that you know belong to you.

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Maybe it's talking about an ox, donkey, a horse or a livestock that works for you or is under your care.

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Because if an animal is working for you, hey feed it, water it and don't abuse it.

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Okay, the Bible says in the Bible says,

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does not muzzle the ox when he treads out the corn.

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So if the oxen is working for-

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you let it eat grass, and don't be cruel to them.

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However, people make that argument so stupid

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because it's the same God that permitted man

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to eat animals.

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The Bible says every moving thing that liveth

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shall be meat for you.

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Jesus Christ ate fish.

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Jesus Christ himself ate a Passover lamb.

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So again, we should eat animals

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because we are not weak, amen.

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But we should not rejoice in animal cruelty.

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Go to Genesis chapter 1.

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Genesis chapter 1.

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So God clearly cares about the animals.

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But just like God cares more about us.

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and he still allows us to go through sufferings in our life.

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Animals also live in a sin-cursed world,

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and they have to bear the consequences.

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Maybe they are looking forward to one day

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during the new Earth, they will never die.

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OK?

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So I said point number one.

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God did not create a world full of death. Point number two, the curse affected the entire generation, the entire creation. And point number three,

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God still cares about animals. Point number four,

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mankind should have dominion over animals.

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Mankind should have dominion over animals. Genesis chapter 1, look at verse 28.

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Genesis 1, 28. And God blessed them, talking about Adam and Eve.

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And God said unto them, Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it.

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And have dominion, means control of power over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl

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of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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Sometimes the Bible is very clear, God wants mankind to have dominion over every non-human

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creature, right?

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You know, all the fish, fowl, and everything that moveth.

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So mankind should have dominion over all non-human creatures.

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Go to Psalm chapter eight.

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Psalm chapter number eight.

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Psalm 8, look at verse number 4.

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Psalm 8, verse 4.

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The Bible says,

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What is man, that thou art mindful of him,

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and the son of man that thou visitest him?

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For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels.

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Concerning the powers and the strength for thou has made man a little lower than the angels

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And has crowned him with glory and honor

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Okay, verse number six thou made it seem to have dominion over the works of thy hands thou has put all things

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That means everything

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That I put all things under his feet, all sheep and oxen, yea, and the beast of the field,

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the fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passes through the path of the seas.

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O Lord our God, O Lord our Lord, how excellent is thy name in all the earth."

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Again, the Bible is clear. We are supposed to take control of every non-human creature.

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You know, every animal should be subject to our control.

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Now we do Matthew chapter 8. Matthew chapter 8.

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So even though God cares for the animals and that animals are still valuable,

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but mankind is invaluable, okay?

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And the problem is that our society sometimes prefer pets over babies.

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They prefer dogs over children.

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But God prefers mankind all day every day.

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Matthew chapter 8, look at verse number 30.

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Matthew 8.30.

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This is after Jesus Christ cast out devils out of the two men.

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Matthew 8.30.

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And there was a good way out from them,

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and earth of many swine feeding.

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So the devils besought him, saying,

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if thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.

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Bye!

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And he said unto them, Go, and when they were come out,

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they went into the herd of swine,

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and behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently

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down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

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Notice, Jesus Christ cast the devils, multiple devils,

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out of two men, and Christ permitted them

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to enter into a herd of swine,

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and the entire herd ran violently to the sea and perished.

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and perished.

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Why? Because those two men's lives were worth far more than two thousand, ten thousands of pigs.

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Okay? Because human lives are way more valuable, and God prefers mankind all day, every day.

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Now we go to Romans chapter one. Romans chapter one.

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You know, Peter won't like this story. Peter won't like Matthew chapter eight.

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So we should not abuse animals, nor should we elevate them to the level of mankind or even above it.

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Okay?

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Because we have a problem between abortion versus animal activism.

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Some people will fight passionately to save unborn puppies while supporting the abortion of unborn babies.

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We know people are doing that all over the place.

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Romans chapter 1, look at verse 21.

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Romans 1, 21.

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Because that when they knew God they glorified him not as God neither were thankful but but became vain in their

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In their in their imaginations when you prefer animals over human

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Hey, you are vain in their imaginations your mind is messed up, right?

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And the foolish heart was darkened professing themselves to be wise they became fools notice verse

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verse verse verse 23 and changed the glory of the uncrowned for God into an image may like to

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May like to cut for men and to birth

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and for for the beast and creeping things wherefore God also gave them up to

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To unclean this through the lust of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves

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And you know unsafe people who you know rather save the life of the puppies

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than the life of the babies.

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You know, these people, if they are not careful,

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they will be given to a rubber bait path.

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You know, eventually they will follow this path

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and they will be beyond the hope of salvation.

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So, to me that's pretty...

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So, to me that's a pretty serious thing.

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We should never elevate animals

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to the level of mankind.

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Some people even elevate them above mankind.

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Okay?

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You know, people will prefer pets over children.

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Many couples choose to have pets rather than children because they don't want the responsibility of raising a family.

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Dogs and cats become their fur babies that completely replace God's design for the family.

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And there is in general greater outrage over animal death than human death.

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Because the story about an abused dog

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can generate more public outrage

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than the murder of a child

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or the killing of millions of unborn babies.

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That is messed up.

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Back in 2014, there's a Grand Canyon

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squirrel kicking incident.

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Who knows about that?

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I didn't do that, okay?

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2014, there's a Grand Canyon squirrel kicking incident.

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There's a video that went viral showing a man luring

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a squirrel to the edge of the Grand Canyon

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with breadcrumbs and then kicking it off the cliff.

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Now, the footage sparked widespread outrage online.

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The incident was investigated by the National Park Service and Animal Rights Group, including

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PETA UK, offered a reward of nearly $17,000 for information leading to the man's identification

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and conviction.

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If identified, he could have faced federal wildlife harassment charges carrying up to six months in jail and a fine.

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Now, let me just say this.

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Cruelty is wrong that he should not kick the squirt off the cliff, okay?

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But where's the same outrage and passion when it comes to abortion?

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You know, many of the same people who, you know, support killing unborn babies,

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these are the same group of people.

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Talking about worshipping the creatures.

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Six months in jail for killing a squirrel, good night.

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Maybe a fine is more reasonable because I do oppose animal cruelty,

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but $17,000 just to ID him and then a federal charge,

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federal charge of six months in prison for killing a squirrel?

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That doesn't make any sense.

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Again, where is the outrage when it comes to aborting babies?

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And then people, you know, people tend to treat pets as people.

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Some people spend enormous amount of money on their pets' clothing, birthday parties,

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strollers, meals, and even whales and inheritance for pets, while just neglecting to provide for

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for their own family, about 21% of cat owners.

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reported hosting holiday or birthday parties for their cats.

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You know, Americans were estimated to spend about $860 million on Halloween costumes for pets alone.

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Some owners spent tens of thousands of dollars on, you know, the veteran, you know, the vet procedures.

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Some, you know, advanced surgeries can even cost $15,000.

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And lifetime spending on a single dog can, you know, go over $50,000.

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For some people.

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Again, there's nothing wrong with loving your dog and taking good care of your dog,

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but our culture often crosses the line, okay?

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Because we throw birthday parties for pets.

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We buy designer clothes for dogs.

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We push them in baby strollers.

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And we spend hundreds and millions of dollars dressing them up for Halloween.

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Meanwhile, millions of unborn babies are being discarded, and countless people are going

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to hell.

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Why not just spend those money and go on a mission trip or just give to the mission and just help

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help for further the gospel, right? And you know, animal, you know, people try to push,

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people try to push the animal rights to make them equal to human rights.

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Some even argue that killing an animal for food is morally equivalent to murdering a human being.

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But the Bible forbids murder, but God allows us to eat animals, okay?

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They would prioritize animal rescue over human rescue.

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And we know that because we go soul hunting and we see the signs at the door that says,

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please save my dog first, right?

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You know, PETA has repeatedly used the slogan, meat is murder.

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They argue that animals have a right to life

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comparable to humans and that killing them for food

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is murder.

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PETA's infamous Holocaust on your plate campaign

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compared the slaughter of animals for food

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to the Holocaust, displaying images of concentration camp

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victims alongside of the livestock.

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So we are all committing Holocaust.

01:34:25.780 --> 01:34:25.800
you

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PETA also released an ad comparing artificial insemination of livestock to the rape of women,

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arguing that consuming dairy and meat supports rape.

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Talking about worshipping the animals, right? It's a major red flag when people prefer animal

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life over human life.

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Not to mention that God gave animals to human benefit.

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Animals were used for animal sacrifices.

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Passover lamb, Jesus Christ ate fish.

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The Bible says in 1st Timothy,

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for every creature of God is good and nothing to be refused.

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Everything can be on the table.

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We can eat anything in the New Testament.

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You know, I exercise my dominion by eating them.

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Okay?

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Because when you eat them, you are clearly exercising your dominion, right?

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Eating meat is not a sin.

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Ranching is not a sin.

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Fishing is a sin.

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Fishing is not a sin.

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Hunting is not a sin.

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Throughout scripture animals are used for human benefit. They are meant to serve us.

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Throughout the Bible, you know animals are used for food, clothing, labor,

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transportation, and sacrifices back in the Old Testament.

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Go to Isaiah 46.

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Now you might say, what about experimenting the animals?

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What if you just experiment upon the animals to make some drug or whatever?

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Well, human lives are far more valuable than...

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than the animal life.

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So if some animals die in the process of developing

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some medicine that can save people,

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there's nothing wrong with that.

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They're meant to support us.

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OK?

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So I said point number one, God did not

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create a world full of death.

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Point number two, God cursed the entire creation.

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Point number three, God still cares about animals.

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Point number four, mankind should

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have dominion over animals.

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So the problem is, does animal suffering disapprove God?

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Not at all.

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In fact, the Bible says they do suffer.

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Isaiah 46, look at verse number nine.

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Isaiah 46, 9.

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Remember the four more things of oath, for I am God and there's none else.

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I am God and there's none like me, declaring the end from the beginning,

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and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying,

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My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.

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So here's the thing that we have to realize. God can do whatever he wants.

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Because it's God's creation. He can do whatever he wants. Look at verse 11.

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Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executed my counsel from a foreign country,

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yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed it, I will also do it.

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Again, God can do everything he wants within his nature. Think about Job. Job never...

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Job learned why every suffering happened.

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Job learned at the end that who was governing all things,

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because God is in control.

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And the biblical reason for the animal suffering

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is actually really simple, because of the fall of man.

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The entire creation is cursed.

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But based on atheism or even naturalism, that is normal.

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Because evolution...

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produce life through endless sufferings, right?

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You know, predators build the ecosystem,

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and pain is simply biology, okay?

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So again, they have to answer the question

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of suffering as well, right?

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But the Bible says that is an enemy.

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Creation fell, creation groans,

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Christ came to reverse the curse in the end.

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So we should just believe what the Bible says.

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Just realize that sins have their consequences.

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And God made all things, and he can do whatever he wants within his nature.

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And don't be cruel to your animals, but use them to your benefits.

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Eat them, have them work for you, use their skin for clothing.

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Use them for your benefits, and don't elevate them above God.

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realize that restoration is coming when Christ comes back. One day there will be

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no curse, no death, no groaning, and there'll be no suffering. Amen? So let's pray.

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Thank you all for giving me this sermon topic.

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Lord, I pray that we will realize that our sins have consequences.

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I pray that we'll just be mindful to not live in our flesh.

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And I pray that we'll truly access dominion over the animals and not to lift them up over human beings.

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And pray that we'll have the right perspective concerning animals.

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And I pray this in Jesus' name, Amen.

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Alright, amen

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All right last song is gonna be song 67 the pearly white city the pearly white city song

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67 the pearly white city on the last part just watch me

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Song 67, The Pearly White City.

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Last part, watch me.

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On the first.

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There is a holy beautiful city whose builder and ruler is God.

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John solid descending from heaven when Papmos in exile he trod.

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It's massive walls made of jasper.

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The city itself is pure gold

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And when my frail tent here is folded

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Mine I shall its glory behold

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In that bright city

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pearly white city

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I have a mansion

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a harp and a crown

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now I am watching

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waiting and longing

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for the white city

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that's soon coming down

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No sin is allowed in that city

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And nothing defiling or mean

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No pain and no sickness can enter

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No creep on the doorknob is seen

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Earth's sorrows and cares are forgotten.

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No tempter is there to annoy.

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No parting words ever are spoken.

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There's nothing to hurt or destroy.

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In that bright city.

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Pearly white city.

01:42:01.500 --> 01:42:09.100
I have a mansion, a harp, and a crown.

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Now I am watching, waiting, and longing

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for the white city that's soon coming down.

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No heartaches are known in that city

01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:34.000
No tears ever moisten the eye

01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:38.520
There's no disappointment in heaven

01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:43.160
No envy and strife in the sky

01:42:43.160 --> 01:42:47.680
The saints all are sanctified holy

01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:51.960
They live in the sweet army there

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My heart is now set on that city

01:42:56.200 --> 01:43:01.200
And someday it's blessings I'll share

01:43:01.200 --> 01:43:06.200
In that bright city

01:43:06.200 --> 01:43:10.200
Pearly white city

01:43:10.900 --> 01:43:18.900
I have a mansion, a harp, and a crown.

01:43:18.900 --> 01:43:25.900
Now I am watching, waiting, and longing

01:43:25.900 --> 01:43:32.900
for the white city that's soon coming down.

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Watch me on the last one.

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My loved ones are gathering yonder.

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My friends who are passing away, and soon I shall join their bright number, and dwell in eternity's day.

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They're saved now in glory with Jesus, their trials and battles are past, they overcame sin and the tempter.

01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:10.240
They've reached that fair city at last

01:44:10.240 --> 01:44:17.440
In that bright city

01:44:17.440 --> 01:44:21.160
Pearly white city

01:44:22.400 --> 01:44:31.900
I have a mansion, a harp, and a crown.

01:44:31.900 --> 01:44:41.400
Now I am watching, waiting, and longing

01:44:41.400 --> 01:44:48.900
for the white city that's soon coming down.

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All right, great singing, Brother Steven.

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Can you please close out with a word of prayer?

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Amen. You are dismissed.

