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All right, come on everybody welcome to Verity Baptist Church
Let's take up take out our bulletins and just go through a couple things first. Let's count up salvation's for this past week
Let's start in the back section
Three anybody else one
Anybody else in the back section? All right for salvation's in the back section my son man. He always gets five, right?
Every week. All right, great jobs up. All right
Anybody in this section any salvation's anybody? All right. What about in this section any salvation's anybody?
Five, okay five. I wasn't sure if you're raising your hand or four was five. Okay five. All right, anybody else anybody I missed
All right, well great job everybody keep up the great work and in the middle of a bulletin
We do have a lot of upcoming activities. We have choir practice many times before our
anniversary service on November 27th
as a reminder
the anniversary service will not be here because this is a normal Sunday in terms of attendance and
I'm assuming we're gonna have a bigger crowd for our anniversary. We're not going to fit in here
So we're actually renting out a venue that is pretty nearby
It's near the Gulag area, but that's where our performance is going to be for choir also coming up before then
We have our Children's Day in two weeks. It was a great time last year
it's gonna be a great time as well both for parents and for kids and
Also on Saturday November 12th for our anniversary in Pampanga
That also will not be at our normal church location because we're renting out a building and so we did have a sign-up sheet
Last week for those that want to come to the event that need a ride or gonna be coming down if you did not sign
Up for it, but you still want to be a part of that. Let me know
You can tell me you can message me on Facebook and we'll add you to that
Let me know if you need a ride, but that's gonna be great
And obviously, you know this church started the church in Pampanga and honestly
It would not have started just on my own because you know when we started there's a lot of guys that were preaching sermons
It was not just me because I really didn't know if I could preach, you know, five sermons in a week
So a lot of guys stepped in and preached and everything like that
So, you know we get to rejoice in the work that we did and how it's a growing church there in Pampanga
But anyways, that's it for announcements. We'll have our brother Raffi lead us in another song
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Let us open our Bibles to first Corinthians chapter 5 first Corinthians chapter 5
That's it is our custom. We are going to read the whole chapter first Corinthians chapter 5
Please say amen when you're there
First Corinthians 5
It is reported commonly that there was fornication among you and such fornication
Is not so much as named among the Gentiles that one should have his father's wife
And he are puffed up and have not rather mourned that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you
Five early as absolute body
But present spirit have judged already as though I were present concerning him that hath so done this deed in the name of our Lord
Jesus Christ when you are gathered together and my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ to deliver such an honor to Satan
For the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus
Your glory is not good. No, we not that a little 11 levels the whole lump
Perch out therefore the old level that he may be a new lump as young unleavened for even Christ
Our pastor was sacrificed for us. Therefore. Let us keep the feast not with the old level
Neither with 11 of malice and wickedness
But with a living bread of sincerity and truth I have wrote unto you in an epistle not to company
with for Niketas
Yet not all together with the for Niketas of this world or with the coverage's or shortness or with idolaters for then must he needs
Go out of the world
But now I have written unto you not to keep company if any man that is called a brother
be a for Niketa or coverage's and Olata or Rayla or drunkard or extortion up with such one and not to do
Not to eat for what have I to?
Judge them also that are without
Do not he judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judges therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person and let us wait
I thank your father for the word and we ask you that
He will give us some situation to understand your word and help us also always apply the things that that we hear and we pray
in his name
All right, we are here in first Corinthians five, let me just give a disclaimer
You know, you don't have to worry. Okay, it's like you come to this chapter people like oh no
It's like I don't know of any major problems that we're dealing with right now
Nobody's getting kicked out of church or anything like that
It is our text chapter though
But what I'm preaching on is a church that is blameless a church that is blameless now
You don't have to turn me about on the front of our bulletin
We have our verse of the week where also reading verse 14 where it says do all things without murmurings and disputings
And then it says that you may be blameless and harmless the sons of God without work without rebuke
in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation among whom he shine as
lights in the world and what the Bible says is that we as people should strive to be
Blameless and harmless now, here's the thing
All of us are sinners and we understand this and of course we cannot be sinless
But the Bible does say that we can be blameless now that's true on an individual level
But if the goal of an individual is to be blameless, well the goal of a church would be to be blameless, right?
I mean as a church we want to be blameless not just as individuals but collectively as a church
We should strive to be blameless
So we have three points here today and the first thing that will cause a church not to be blameless
Is if there's major sins that are not being dealt with where someone should get kicked out of church
Okay, and that's what first Corinthians 5 is talking about
That's the first thing you would think of because that's the most major one
Obviously if there's major sins that are not dealt with the Bible says in first came first Corinthians 5
verse 1
It is reported commonly that there's fornication among you in such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles
That one should have his father's wife. So there's this church and there's a guy in the church that is
Intimately involved with his father's wife now, this is just perverse
I mean, this is just a bizarre that someone would come to church and have that major of a sin that they're dealing with and
This is something that's not even named amongst the Gentiles and I would say yeah, you know
I've never heard of this in real life, right?
And this is a major major sin that is going on and what what's it's not just as a major sin in the church
It's commonly reported
Meaning even outside the church people are aware
They know that that's the church where that person goes that is basically involved with his father's wife
It's like what that means is the church is not blameless, right?
I mean you could criticize that church and say they've got the most extreme sin
We've ever even heard of in a church and they're accepting it
Well, they're not blameless right and so this chapter gives us a template on if we accept sins like this in our church as a church
We are not blameless people could criticize us for basically allowing sin in our church verse number two
And
You're puffed up and if not rather mourns that he that hath done this team might be taken away from among you and it says
They're in verse number two. It says you're puffed up. Now. What does that mean?
It means the church itself got basically arrogant about the fact that they were allowing a sin
You say why would they get arrogant?
Well, the idea is they're basically saying we're too loving ever to get rid of anybody from church, right?
That's the sort of attitude and yet in
1922
Most Baptist churches are like the Church of Court
Anything goes and if you would say what about first Corinthians 5 they'd say well
We just believe that God is a god of the second chances, right?
We're just you know, too nice to kick someone out and they'll say things like the church is like a hospital, right?
I don't have a problem with that analogy if you properly use it because in many ways church is like a hospital
It's a place for the people that are sick or sinners
Right to get better through the preaching of God's Word
But here's the thing when you make an analogy. It doesn't mean analogies are perfect, especially an analogy
That's not even mentioned in the Bible. Okay, and look, I don't know how all hospitals work
But let me just state something that not all viruses are the same. Sometimes there's quarantine laws within a hospital
I mean if you walk in it's like what's your condition? I've got the black plague
I'm pretty sure they're gonna deal with you a little bit differently than other people
Right. I mean so even in a hospital that I mean even with the COVID
There's quarantining and all kinds of rules and everything like that
So look you can use that analogy if you want and I'll probably in the future preach a sermon called churches like a hospital
But realize it's an analogy and you got to use Bible to actually back up and not just what seems right to you
Okay, yeah church is like a hospital but the Bible also says but some people get rejected at the door and it says well
We can't treat you right? That's what the Bible teaches
says in verse 3
For I vary as absent in body
But present in spirit have judged already as though I were present concerning him that hath so done this deed
And what Paul says is you know, I'm not even there
But this is my judgment. I've already told you what I think
Now why is Paul able to talk about this when he is not there to verify stuff well, it's commonly reported
Right if there's 20 reports about something and let me help you understand this if one person comes to me and makes
An accusation about someone it's like well, I I have to verify things like I don't know if it's true or not
It's just what one person said
But if 20 people come to me with the same thing that's enough verification out of the mouth of two or three witnesses
Right. I mean if 20 people say I saw that person commit murder guilty
Right. What else is there to talk about? I mean, there's witnesses to what actually took place
So Paul's able to report because it's commonly reported now some people try to go to the book of Matthew and they say well
This is every situation that you got to basically give them a chance like it's a courtroom
They get to tell you what they think it's like no, no, no, there's certain situations like that, but not every situation
There's different types of situations of church discipline and first Corinthians 5 is one
specifically for sins that are at the local church it says in verse number four in
the name of our Lord Jesus Christ when you're gathered together in my spirit with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ to
Deliver such in one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus
Your graying is not good
Know you not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump and the Bible says if there's a little bit of sin
At this church, it's going to leaven the entire lump. Now look obviously as I said nobody is without sin
But the Bible gives us specific sins and it says that if it's allowed at the church
It could spread as if it's no big deal and what we'd be teaching young children
Is that anything is tolerated in the local church
But that is not actually what the Bible teaches the Bible actually gives you specific sins that are actually not tolerated in the local church
Verse 7 purge out there for the old leaven that you may be a new lump as you're unleavened for even Christ our Passover
Sacrificed for us therefore. Let us keep the feast not with old leaven neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness
But with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth
Then he says in verse 9. He's going to talk more in detail about specific sins. I wrote unto you an epistle
not to keep company with
fornicators now when it says fornicator here what fornication is by definition is when unmarried people are
Physically intimately involved together, you know sexually involved together
Unmarried people but what I believe is that fornication is like for under the it's it's this umbrella of sexual sin
Where fornication is the smallest sexual sin that would get you removed from church and obviously there's things that are worse than fornication
So any sexual sin that is worse than fornication would also apply, right?
She really sins like adultery bestiality
Homosexuality, I mean sexual sins that are more grievous, but let's say for example, you know
If somebody's addicted to pornography that is obviously a major sin
But that is not fornication
Right. And so that would not be something somebody would be kicked out of church for unless they were actually bringing that in church
And then yes that they would get kicked out for that, right? That would be ridiculous
I actually heard of that recently at a new IFB church in the US someone caught watching pornography at church
It's like well, that's pretty major
Right. I mean if you got an addiction, it's like that doesn't get you kicked out, but if you actually bring it in church
That's different, right?
So, but what the Bible says is fornication but pretty much any sexual sin that would be worse than that would also fit, right?
Then it says in verse number 10
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world or with the covetous or extortioners with idolaters
For then must you needs go out of this world go out of the world
So Bible says, you know, I'm telling you not to keep company with someone that is a fornicator
But I'm not saying that you know what you have to avoid every single person
That's guilty of fornication covetousness extortioners or idolaters in the entire world for then must he needs go out of the world
Right in the Philippines by statistics the majority of children in the Philippines are born out of wedlock
so obviously this is a very common thing in the Philippines and in many countries and
You know, obviously fornication is a very common thing in the Philippines and look whatever's happened in the past the past
You know, I'm not criticizing you for the past
But we want to teach our children not to make mistakes that we made growing up, right?
We want to teach kids these things are not acceptable don't commit these sins
It's going to destroy your life, but you'd have to go out of the world to completely avoid everybody guilty of these sins
So very second. I'm so convicted by this sermon. I'm never going to be around any anybody like this ever so
Never go to Robinson's never go to the Plank Day. Never go to any restaurant
Because I promise you if you're around 20 plus people you're gonna have probably several people that are guilty of many of these sins
You must needs go out of the world
So what the Bible is saying is hey, you don't have to feel guilty
Like you work a job with a bunch of people that are guilty about it, man
I feel like my conscience is convicted like I'm sinning, you know
For example many people have told me many people at our church here and in Pampanga in the past have said they worked at call
Centers what I understand there are a lot of homos that work at call centers like a very high percentage
Well, does that mean you have to quit your job because you're accompanying with those that are LGBT?
Well, no, you must needs go out of the world
to completely avoid
Every single sin that's under here in 1st Corinthians 5 what the Bible is saying is you're a local church and there are certain sins
That are not acceptable at the local church and it mentions here in verse 10
Fornication, covetousness, extortioners, idolaters, for then must he needs go out of the world
You say Brother Stuckey, you know, how do we know when to accept people when not to okay
Well, the Bible gives us more information on this look at what it says in verse 11
But now I've written on you not to keep company notice this if any man that is called a brother
This is very important
Because here's the thing if somebody visits our church for the first time
nobody knows their name if
They visit for ten times. Nobody knows their name to be honest, right?
Just a few people but when they're at a church for a time period eventually, what do you call them brother?
Stuckey
brother
Ronald brother
Franklin right you call them brother so-and-so or sister so and so it's just like the way you call them in the local church
You don't have to but that's usually a sign of respect and that's generally what you do
They get to be the point where you consider them your brother in Christ your sister in Christ your church family, right?
They're part of the body at a point now
The Bible doesn't give us an exact line whether it's you know
One month or two months and look different churches can look at this a little bit differently. It can be a bit of a gray area
It's not a perfect two plus three equals five situation
But the idea is eventually someone gets to the point where their brother so and so or sister so and so now
Go to Revelation chapter 2
Revelation 2 Revelation 2
Because people could ask this question, okay. Well, there's certain sins that are not acceptable
What if you go out so winning today? And one of the things that's gonna be mentioned
We're gonna go back there in a second is being a drunkard lasting arrow, right?
you say what if we go out so winning and we meet a drunkard out so winning and
We get him saved while he's sober because nobody gets saved while they're drunk
You say they're saying I got him say but they're a drunkard
Should I invite him to church? Yes, you say what because they're not known as brother so-and-so yet
They're not known as sister so-and-so so-and-so yet
You're not gonna do or a man and a woman living together that are not married and they get saved
You say what do you do? Do you tell them about why their sin is not acceptable? No, no, you invite him to church
But you can't expect somebody who just got saved now to have their entire life cleaned up
Right, you can give them a chance to hear the preaching, you know
And then eventually now here's the thing if you invite somebody out so winning and they come to church that is in that situation
You should let me know about that
privately and not tell other people about it and
The reason why is not that I won't let them come back because they're gonna get a chance and we're gonna see that in Revelation
But I should be aware of that, you know that they're in that situation
You say why do they get a chance instead of having to get it right immediately?
Well, and that's what it says in Revelation 2 verse 20
Revelation 2 verse 20
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee because thou sufferest which is an old-fashioned muckaloomong way to say allowest
That woman Jezebel which called herself her prophetess
To teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication and to eat things sacrificed unto idols now
It's just my opinion, but I don't think this woman's name is actually Jezebel. I think that's just kind of a
An endearing term that God is giving for this woman
It's like Jezebel right to basically describe that she's you know, very guilty of a lot of major things
right, but he says, you know, this woman is
Teaching and
Seducing my servants to commit fornication. Is that a small sin or a big sin?
It's a pretty big sin
Right. I mean, it's not just committing fornication. She's trying to get other people to commit fornication
That's a big sin, right and it says she's teaching them to eat things sacrificed unto idols
Once again, that's a very major thing as well, right?
She she has very major sins and you know, of course the first reaction is get this woman out of here
But notice what it says in verse number 21 and I gave her space
to repent of her fornication and she repented not now space means
time
And what it's saying is this woman has a time period where she gets to get this sin, right and either
Get it right or get out now. You say what is the time frame? Well, it doesn't give us an exact time frame and
Churches can see this differently, you know, I've known various pastors that you know
What they they give a very short leash and other pastors that give more time period you say what's the exact amount of time?
Well, you know honestly it's situation by situation
because for example, somebody might start coming to church but just from time to time and
Technically they've been around for three months, but they've been to three church services
That's a little bit different than being at every church service for three months, right?
So not every situation is the same
But this woman has a space or a time period to get her sin, right?
And if not, then she'll get kicked out notice what it says in verse 22 behold. I will cast her into a bed and
Then that commit adultery with her into great tribulation except they repent of their deeds
But it's very major sin and the Bible says she does have a time period to get it right go to 1st Corinthians 5
1st Corinthians 5
And let me just say this that dealing with
situations of people getting kicked out is never fun and
there's really no way to perfectly do it that everybody's happy about because if
And we've had people to church should have been kicked out before obviously and when those situations happen
Some people are like man that person should have been kicked out a while ago and some people are like, you know
Why don't you give them another chance? It's like well, you know what it just is what it is, right?
I mean when you judge cases
Unfortunately, not everyone's going to agree with the judgment
It is what it is
But what I do like about the Bible is God says what's bound in earth is bound in heaven and he says I will stand
by
The judgment that you make in a specific situation and you know what obviously God understands
These are not easy situations to deal with because a lot of these are kind of gray area now
Fornication is not such a gray area, but a lot of these are because notice what it says in verse 11
But now I've written on do not to keep company if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator or a covetous now
We know what covetous is but here's the thing all of us have some level of degree of covetousness from time to time
Not all of us are
Fornicators, but when it comes to cover just all of us are at some level of sometimes we give me covetous and so
Obviously different churches can deal with these things differently some might be you know more strict
and some might be more lenient and these are not very easy things to deal with because obviously
Covered just what I would say is generally I would call somebody covetous if they always talk about money
You're going so winning and all they talk about is money money money money
Everything they talk about is just money money money money money. That's all the time. Another thing it mentions is or an idolatry
Well, look if we get a Catholic saved today and they come to church next week. They probably still have idols in their house
And
If they start coming to church regularly
They're gonna get space
To get that sin right and everything if it's something that I'm aware of and other people are not aware of I will talk to
That person privately and just let them know like hey, you know, this is something that you got to get right now
The way I look at this is some people come to church and they have pre-existing
Situations for example Catholics often have a lot of idolatry
That's a little bit different than someone who's been in our church from day one
And been here for four years and then we still see you pulling out the rosary beads, you know, like
Every lunchtime and praying to them or whatever. That's a different situation. I mean if somebody got saved last week
It's like we need to give them a little bit of grace and realize they're still learning
And Lord willing if they stay at our church for several months
They'll probably start to feel foolish about some of the traditions are doing that are completely wrong or whatever
So idolatry is one that is mentioned then it mentions
Railer and railer is like lying about people and once again
I believe this is kind of like an umbrella where basically major sins of the tongue can be associated with this whether it be gossiping
Lying about others. I mean these sorts of things kind of tie together and these are things that exist at churches all over the world
Right, they're definitely things
I mean where people will be guilty of railing and something we've dealt with at our church
Why would it talk to people individually and said hey you made an accusation against someone it turned out not to be true
And they're like, yeah, I guess I was wrong. It's like well, you got to get that right
You gotta let every single person know that believe what you said that what you said wasn't true
Right because if there's major things that you know, like railing where you're lying about people it can destroy somebody's reputation
Right. So railing is one that's mentioned. It also says drunkard and
Look a lot of people in this world drink alcohol from time to time and
drinking one beer per week
Does not make you la cinero or drunkard. It does make you a sinner
Because I preach against alcohol
But here's the thing, you know, I'm just drinking from time to time does not make you a drunkard
Right. And so look if somebody drinks from time to time look I preach against that sin, but you know what it's it's between them
And God I promise you
At our church and I'm not aware of this of people at our church
I promise you there's people at our church that drink alcohol from time to time
I wish that were not the case, but I'm sure it is
Right, you know and you know, hopefully it's not a common thing because obviously that's a major sin something I've preached against many times
But here's the thing if somebody drinks from time to time
That is a little bit different than waking up in your own vomit you say better study
That's very disgusting to think about. Yeah, it's a disgusting sin to do right at least a lot of disgusting, you know results
But if somebody drinks from time to time, they don't get kicked out for that, right?
Then it says extortion or an extortion is like stealing money by force or by guilt
And so yeah, there's all these things that are mentioned and here's the thing if we allow major sins at our church
And it becomes a common knowledge
The result is people think it's accepted and what it means is we're not blameless as a church
What we're talking about is how to be blameless as a local New Testament church
Which should be our goal that we don't have major problems at our church
Then it says in verse number 12 for whatever to do to judge them that also without
Do not you judge them that are within meaning within the local church, but then they're without God judge
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked persons what the Bible says is with church discipline if someone gets removed from church
You know what? God's the one who deals with it, right?
I mean it's outside of our control then but situations in the church about says yes
You ought to judge those situations if there are major problems now look as I said
I'm long-suffering if anybody gets kicked out of church because I don't enjoy kicking people out of church and
In most ways I agree with the idea churches like a hospital where we all have our problems and it takes time to grow
But it can come to the point where things must be removed from the local church now turn your Bible to Matthew 19
Matthew 19
Another story to think about is the sin of Achan, right?
Well, basically there's a major sin, but Joshua is not aware of it
And when it comes to his knowledge
He realized the whole congregation is being cursed because of that sin
And so I'm never happy to hear about you know major sins existing at our church
But I'm I'd rather know about something if it does exist because God expects us to deal with it
And you know Lord willing that person can get that sin right now some people might ask the question well brother Stuckey you said
That people can have these sins and still visit church. Why do you not let homosexuals come to your church?
Here's the thing somebody who's guilty of fornication can get that right they can just quit fornicating
Someone getting an adultery can get that right someone that's a drunkard can get that right someone. That's a homo
They can't get it right
You say right because just as the Bible teaches one saved always say the Bible also teaches once a homo
Always a homo
Well, this is what you call a local New Testament church in 2022
That's what the Bible teaches I mean last I checked Sodom and Gomorrah is still mentioned in the Word of God
Genesis 19
Judges 19 is still there and look I understand for some of you
Maybe you know if you've never heard our preaching that might seem extreme, and it's like you know what I don't have time to explain
Genesis 19 to does 19 I would just encourage you to read it
What I would say is for those that think that's extreme you've never read Genesis 19
You've never read Judges 19 and this place is going to be a safe place for the children of this church
And it's not going to be a safe place
When you have sexual perverts that are running around and here's the thing someone guilty of fornication can get it right
The Bible teaches that someone who?