you
good evening everyone
welcome to the Verde Dei Baptist Church
May the Last Man sing a service
for our first song
let's grab our hymnals and turn to song number 263
song number 263
verily, verily
oh what a savior
God, he died for me
on the first ready, sing
oh what a savior
God, he died for me
from bond and
nation, he hath made me
free
he that believeth on the
sunset, he
had everlasting
life
verily, verily
I say unto you
verily, verily
message ever
you
he that believeth on the
sun is true
had everlasting
life
all my
iniquities on him were
laid
all my iniquities
by him was made
oh who believeth
in the Lord had said
had everlasting
life
verily, verily
I say unto you
verily, verily
message ever
you, he that
believeth on the sun
is true
had everlasting
life
though poor and needy
I can trust my
Lord
though weak and mental
I believe his word
and message every
time of God
had everlasting
life
verily, verily
I say unto you
verily, verily
message ever
you, he
that believeth on the
sun is true
had everlasting
life
though whole
and worthy and I will
not doubt
for he the common
he will not guess out
he that believeth
on the moon you
shall have
everlasting
life
verily, verily
I say unto you
verily, verily
message ever you
he that believeth
on the sun
is true
had everlasting
life
first voice I hear on the first
ready, sing
the fields of sin
bring them in
bring the
wandering ones to Jesus
who'll go
with hell his
shepherd kind
help him the wandering
ones to find
who'll bring the lost
ones to the
gold
where they'll be sheltered
from the cold
bring them in
from the fields of sin
bring them in
bring the
wandering ones to Jesus
out in the desert
hear their cry
out on the mountains
wild and high
heart is the master
speaks to
thee
go by my sheep
wherever they be
bring them in
from the fields of sin
bring them in
bring the wandering ones to Jesus
our scripture reading please open your Bibles to 1 John chapter 2
the first letter of John chapter 2 just before the Galatians should and then the letters of John
so the first letter of John chapter 2
please say amen when you're there
amen
my little children
these things right I answer you that you say not
and if any man sin
we have not required with the father Jesus Christ the righteous
and he's the preparation for our sins
and not for us only
but also for the sins of the whole world
and hereby
we do know that we know him
if we keep his commandments
he that saith I know him
and keepeth not his commandments
is a liar and the truth is not in him
but whoso keepeth his word
in him verily the love of God is perfected
hereby know we that we are in him
he that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk even as he walked
well then I write no new commandment unto you
but an old commandment which he had from the beginning
the old commandment is the word which he have heard from the beginning
again a new commandment I write unto you
which thing is true in him and in you
because the darkness is past and the true light now shineth
he that saith he's in the light and hateth his father is in darkness even until now
he that loveth his father abideth in the light
and there is none occasion of stumbling in him
but he that hateth his brother is in darkness and walketh in darkness
and knoweth not whither he goeth
because the darkness has blinded his eyes
I write unto you little children
because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake
I write unto your fathers
because you have known him that is from the beginning
I write unto young men
because you have overcome the wicked one
I write unto you little children
because you have known the father
I have written unto your fathers
because you have known him that is from the beginning
I have written unto you young men
because you are strong and the word of God abideth in you
and you have overcome the wicked one
love not the world
neither the things that are in the world
if any man love the world
the love of the father is not in him
for all that is in the world
the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes
and the pride of life is not of the father
but is of the world
and the world passes away and the lust of the love
but he that doth the will of God abideth forever
little children it is the last time
and as if you have heard that antichrist shall come
even now are there many antichrists
whereby we know that it is the last time
they went out from us
but they were not of us
for if they had been of us
they would no doubt have continued with us
but they went out that they might be made manifest
that they were not all of us
but he hath an unction from the holy one
and he know all things
I have not written unto you because he know not the truth
but because he know it
and that no lie is of the truth
who is the liar but he that denyeth that Jesus is the Christ
he is antichrist that denies the father and the son
whosoever denies the son the same has not the father
but he that acknowledges the son has the father also
let us therefore abide in you which he hath heard from the beginning
if that which he hath heard from the beginning shall he remain in you
he also shall continue in the son and in the father
and this is the promise that he has promised us
even eternal life
these things have I have written unto you concerning them that seduce you
but the anointing which you have received of him abideth in you
and he need not that any man teach you
but as the same anointing teaches you of all things
and is truth and is no lie
and even as it has taught you he shall abide in him
and now little children abide in him
that when he shall appear we may have confidence
and not be ashamed before him at his coming
if he know that he is righteous
he know that everyone that art in righteousness is born of him
let us pray
thank you our father that we are here
and thank you for every soul that can listen today
and we will pray that you will anoint the preacher
and that you will give us understanding
open our hearts to love your word more and more
and yeah help us also to apply all the things that we hear
in his name amen
alright we are here in 1st John chapter 2
and let me just start at verse number 18
and then I'll tell you what the name of the sermon is
and what the sermon is about
but at verse number 18 at 1st John chapter 2
the Bible reads
little children it is the last time
and as you have heard that antichrist shall come
even now are there many antichrists
whereby we know that it is the last time
now when we think about the antichrist
there is one ultimate antichrist that is going to come
during the end times and we are aware of that
but the Bible says even though you have heard
that antichrist shall come
referring to that antichrist
even now are there many antichrists
and basically what it is referring to
are people that are false prophets
and of course in today's world
there are a lot of false prophets right
this was written 2000 years ago
and the idea is that
since there is a lot of false prophets
you know it is the last time
and the indication is
as we get closer to the end times
you are going to have more and more and more false prophets
okay
verse number 19
they went out from us
but they were not of us
for if they had been of us
they would no doubt have continued with us
but they went out that they might be made manifest
that they were not all of us
now verse 19 is a bit of a tongue twister
and people you know they read that verse
and they are like what is this talking about
right and they get confused
and honestly you hear a lot of false things from verse 19
and the name of the sermon is
they went out from us
now in verse 19 it is being linked
back to the antichrist in verse 18
but the main idea I want you to understand is
obviously these antichrists are not safe people
okay
now how people apply verse 19
is in a lot of different ways
and a lot of ways incorrectly
so I am basically going to do a Bible study
on this phrase they went out from us
what is that referring to
what is the Bible saying
now whenever you preach a sermon like they went out from us
you are like who went out from us
who left our church
who is he talking about
and so that is not what that phrase is referring to as it is anyway
but I am not referring to anybody
I am just doing this Bible study
because a lot of people are confused about this phrase
they went out from us and you hear a lot of different things
and so before I explain to you
what this phrase actually means
let's start with something it does not mean
it does not mean
somebody leaving church
right go to 2 Timothy chapter 4
2 Timothy chapter 4
and this is probably
how it is most used by churches
they will say
well wait a minute somebody used to be part of our church
but they went out from us
if they had been of us they would no doubt have continued with us
but they went out that they might be made to manifest
they were not all of us
they were not saved
if they were really saved they would have stayed with the church
I mean they were at our church for 40 years
and then they quit the church
it is like they were never saved
that is the way people usually
apply that verse they will say
well they left the church I do not even know if they are saved
they went out from us
I mean they might be an anti-Christ
they are not really saved
I mean is that not how you hear that verse apply
and even if people do not realize the context
they will quote that phrase they went out from us
they left the church
they were part of the church they left
therefore they were never saved
that is not what that phrase is talking about
and let me just prove to you
that when somebody leaves the church
they are saved
2 Timothy 4 verse 10
the Bible reads
for Demas hath forsaken me
having loved this present world
and is departed unto Thessalonica
Crescendo to Galatia
Titus unto Dalmatia
now in this verse he is not saying that all of these people forsook him
he is just saying Demas forsook him
in terms of Demas forsook to live a worldly life
now realize that with Paul the Apostle
he is traveling around preaching at different locations
he would be in an area for a year or two
go to a different area
but the idea is that Demas basically
left the ministry so to speak
you could make the application
quit the church, quit serving God
and so here is the thing
Paul does not say that Demas was not saved
Paul does not say we question his salvation
what he says is
Demas loved this present world
and see people get this idea
well when you get saved
it means you love God
and those that are saved love God
if you love God those that are not saved
do not love God
that is not what the Bible teaches
being saved is not about loving God
you get saved and then that does not mean
you love God
whether or not you walk in His commandments
that is the determination of whether or not
you love God
so Demas loving this present world
it does not mean
well he was not saved
because if he was really saved he would love God
where does the Bible say that?
commandments
it does not say if you love me keep my commandments
and that is the determination if you go to heaven
the determination if you love God
is if you keep His commandments
that is not salvation
go to John 21
now look at our church
if you have been at our church from the beginning
we have had various people at our church
for various lengths of time
and some people were a problem
but you know we have had people at our church
that went soul winning with our church
they were at our church
and then somewhere along the way they just kind of quit going to church
now I do not question their salvation
because they quit coming to our church
that is not a reason to question whether or not they are saved
now I mean I was disappointed
when people like that left their church
people that were not causing problems
they came to soul winning
they came to our church and they just kind of faded out
and I do not know whether they are going to church or not
but I do not question their salvation
because they left the church
because the Bible does not tell you to question someone's salvation
just because they leave the church
that is not what it is talking about in 1 John 2
let me give you another example
in John 21
John 21 verse 1
after these things Jesus showed Himself again
to the disciples at the sea of Tiberius
and on this wise showed He Himself
there were together Simon Peter and Thomas
called Didymus and Nathanael of Cana and Galilee
and the sons of Zebedee
and two other of his disciples
Simon Peter saith unto them
I go of fishing they say unto them
we also go with thee
now this does not mean it is a sin to go fishing
okay
what you need to realize is that
Simon Peter that was his job
that was his profession
before he got called into the ministry
okay there is nothing wrong with having that as a hobby
there is nothing wrong with having that as a career either
it is just the fact that Simon Peter
was in the ministry
and he basically goes back to his old lifestyle
and he says you know what I go of fishing
and all the other ones come with him
so basically he is essentially
leaving the ministry
leaving the church saying I do not want to have anything to do with it anymore
it is not worth it
I do not want to do it I want to go back to my old lifestyle
right is that not what you see in John 21
this is after the resurrection of Jesus
this is not the first time
they are seeing Jesus appear to them
this is after that but basically
Peter has quit the ministry
kind of like quitting the church
verse 3
Simon Peter saith unto them
I go of fishing
they say unto them we also go with thee
showing that you have an impact on other people
if you do quit our church
other people might quit our church
other people might get backslidden
because you quit the church that is reality
the actions you make
affect other people
they went forth and entered into a ship immediately
and that night they caught nothing
so basically God does not bless them
they catch nothing
but when the morning was now come
Jesus stood on the shore
but the disciples knew not that it was Jesus
then Jesus saith unto them children have ye any meat
they answered him no
and he said unto them cast the net on the right side of the ship
and ye shall find
they cast therefore and now they were not able to draw it
for the multitude of fishes
anyway here is the thing that reminds you of that story
where Jesus said let down the nets
and then they let down one net
and then it broke because
there was too many fish
it kind of reminds Peter
back to three years in the past
and it's kind of like
Peter you did all these great things over three years
and you caught many fish
symbolically speaking
saying being a fisher of men
and now you're going back to your old lifestyle
and he's getting reminded about
the soul winning and what he did
verse 7
therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved
saith unto Peter
the Lord
now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord
he girt his fisher's coat on to him for he was naked
and did cast himself into the sea
now I think people are aware of this
but let me just say this because
when I was newly saved in reading this
I didn't understand what the definition of nakedness was
in the Bible
so I thought that Peter was not wearing any clothes at all
and I'm like what is wrong with you
like why would you go fishing
and not wear anything
but what the Bible defines nakedness as
is from your knee to your waist
so I would say the indication would probably be
that he's wearing some sort of shorts that didn't
cover up all of his nakedness
but of course if you're in front of the Lord Jesus Christ
you're going to be embarrassed about that
and all of a sudden he's just like
throws himself in the water
and he basically is just trying to hide himself
from the Lord because he doesn't want to be seen
when he's not dressed appropriately
and so
here's my point though in this passage
let's say
because they basically quit the church
and if the idea is that if you
quit the church that you're not saved
doesn't it make sense that Jesus would stop
to give them the gospel if they weren't saved
when do you ever see
Jesus in John 21 saying
okay let me go through the gospel with you
for the one millionth time
right? He doesn't stop to give them the gospel
you say why? Because quitting
the church doesn't mean you're not saved
it just means you quit the church
right? I mean that's not a reason to
question somebody's salvation
right? Now look it's
nobody's ever happy when people quit the church
they get out of
serving God or whatever
but the reality is
there'd be no reason to question someone's salvation
simply because
they left our church
okay? Simply because they stopped
going to church, simply because
they stopped coming and being part of the fellowship at our church
now go to Hebrews 10
Hebrews 10
Hebrews chapter 10
and here's the thing
if you think that somebody quitting
church means we should question their salvation
which is what a lot of Baptist churches
teach you're going to have to give me a verse
to prove that not just
well here's my opinion if you quit the church
I don't even know if you're saved that sounds
real powerful but it doesn't sound real biblical
show me a verse that actually
supports that because a lot of
I mean pastors can get up saying hey you know what
if you're still listening to rock music
I don't even know if you're saved
well that sounds real powerful
and it also sounds real bobo because that's not
what the Bible says
I mean you can yell all you want
and sound powerful
that doesn't make it right
where's your Bible to back up what you're saying
somebody leaving the church is not
a reason to question their salvation
okay?
Hebrews 10 verse 24
Hebrews 10 verse 24 the Bible reads
and let us
consider one another to provoke
unto love and to good works
now when he says let us he's referring
to other saved people
okay? he's saying let us
let saved people consider one another
to provoke unto love and to good works
so instead of thinking about yourself
think about other people okay? as a saved person
be concerned about other people
verse 25
not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together
as the manner of
some is
he's saying he's telling
saved people you ought to
be in church to consider
one another
okay? he's commanding
saved people to be in church
which means it's not an automatic thing
because why would he have to command it?
so here's the thing when he's saying as the manner of
some is he's referring to
other saved people
right? because he says as saved people
let us consider one another
be in church as a saved person because
he's talking about the people at church
not forsaking as the manner of
some is referring to other saved people
he's not saying
as the manner of some is as unsaved people
don't go to church but saved go to church
that's not the context my friend
the context is as saved people
don't be like other saved people
that don't go to church
that's what he's saying
the manner of some saved people
let us saved people consider one another
provoke unto love and to good works
don't be as other saved people that choose
to forsake church
but exhorting one another
and so much the more
as you see the day approaching
so what we're seeing there
and what we see in the Bible
is that saved people can choose to not go to church
turn in your Bible
to Luke 8
Luke 8
Luke chapter 8
I mean I didn't start going to church
until 8 months after I got saved
does that mean that I wasn't really saved
until I set foot in church?
it doesn't make any sense
right? and here's the reality
probably in this room if we heard people's testimonies
of when they got saved and when they started going to church
probably a lot of us were saved for a long time
before we started going to church
right? and look
you know I don't want to see people
leave our church in the future
if somebody moves and they go to another great church
that's fine but I would hate to see people leave our church
get out of serving God
or whatever
but it's going to happen at our church in the future though
and it has happened
to our church before we've had people that were part of our church
part of soul winning
then they kind of start skipping church and you're kind of wondering
where did that person go?
and they just kind of left
right? well here's the thing
it's happened before it's going to happen again
I hope it doesn't happen with anyone that's in this room right now
but here's the thing
if you quit our church I'm not going to question your salvation
now if you don't quit
for a valid reason
then I might question your love for God
but I wouldn't question whether or not
you're saved because
you quit going to church
people quit church
there's plenty of Demuses in this world
so this phrase
is not saying that if you quit church
they went out from us
they left Verity Baptist Church Manila
right? I guess they were never saved
that's not what it's saying
another thing people say is
well they went out from us they started living a sinful life
right?
they were living a godly life
then they started living a sinful life
they went out from us they quit serving God
they quit living a godly life
started listening to bad music
they went out from us
they were never saved
that's what people will say
Luke 8 verse 13
are they which when they hear receive the word with joy
now this is
referring to people that they don't just
receive the word
they receive it with joy
to be saved you must receive the word
you don't have to receive it with joy
okay?
case in point is you know today
when me and brother Sean were going soloing
the people we got saved they seemed excited about visiting
church now we don't know if they're going to but
a lot of people get saved and they're not excited
about visiting church they have no interest in
going to church they're glad to be saved
and that's about it and they're not
receiving the word with joy
but see some people when they get saved
they actually are very thankful to be
saved they receive the word with joy
when you cross reference a synonym
to joy is gladness
right? the Bible says in Acts 2 that
those that gladly receive his word were baptized
okay? those that didn't
just get saved but were very thankful
ended up getting baptized
so in a saying here in Luke 8 verse 13
people that receive the word with joy
it's referring to people that get saved and they're
excited about it right? they do want to serve
God and these have no
root which for a while believe in a
time of temptation fall away
and the indication is they're not rooted
and grounded in the things
that they believe they're excited
but then when temptation
persecutions come they fade out
and isn't this true with a lot of new
people newly saved
listen to all these sermons online
they get excited about church
their family criticizes
this church then they just quit
right? isn't that true?
people once their family criticizes
them they just quit
right? people get up when they have
friends and family that criticize
they just can't take it due to persecution they just
kind of fade out they receive the word with joy
but they just were not rooted
and then when persecution comes they just fade out
okay? verse 14
and now which fell among thorns
for they which when they have heard go forth
and so they hear the word of God they go
forth they start serving God and are
choked with cares and riches
and pleasures of this life
and bring no fruit to perfection
there are many things that want to
choke you out of serving God
right? they basically prevent you
from serving God now think of the
analogy the Bible's giving of choking
okay? and you know
think of like a fight and somebody's in
like a guillotine choke
or a rear naked choke or whatever if you have any
familiarity with you know mixed martial
arts or whatever triangle choke
if you're being choked you start losing
energy you can't fight back as much
when someone first starts choking you you're
really fighting to get the hands off the neck
right? but eventually you start losing
your strength and the Bible's saying
the cares and riches and pleasures
they can start choking you so you don't have any
strength to fight back eventually
if you don't get those things out of your life they'll start
choking you where you don't have any
energy anymore to actually serve
God but what the Bible's showing you
is there's people that get
excited about serving God
but because of these cares and riches
and pleasures and persecutions
these things happen and then they quit
serving God it
doesn't say they're not saved
it says they bring no fruit to
perfection now look I understand
at a lot of churches they say well if there's
no fruit there's no salvation because
if you're really saved you're going to bear fruit
what does it mean to bear fruit?
it means to get people saved
the fruit of the righteous is a tree of life
and he that winneth souls is wise
that's what it's referring to about
bearing fruit now what
people say is well your fruits are good
works okay this is what a lot
of people say well
here's what doesn't make any sense about that
everybody does good works
unsaved people do nice things
if your fruits
talking about good works
unsaved people do nice things
before I was saved I did some nice things
my neighbor
growing up you know she was in her nineties
you know in our neighborhood and during the winter
time with a lot of snow and a lot of ice
you know I shoveled her driveway
and spent a couple hours that way you know
it'd be safe for her that's a nice
thing isn't it?
I was an unsafe person but
you know if you're raised right by your parents you want to do
nice things be a good person
unsaved people do nice things
okay
so here's the thing that doesn't make any sense
to say you're first talking about good works
cause everybody does some good works
everybody does some nice things
what the fruit is referring to is getting people
saved and here's the thing
if you're living a worldly and sinful life
good luck trying to
bear fruit you say why
because that worldly life will choke you
out so you don't have any energy
people have this idea they want to serve God
but they don't want to make any changes
in their life
they still want to listen to the rock music
they still want to do
all the same activities
they still want to commit all the same sins
but they want to serve God
it doesn't work that way
you got to make a choice which way you're going to walk
and if you try to go both ways
eventually you're going to bring no fruit to perfection
that's what the Bible teaches
doesn't mean that you're not saved though
go to Hebrews 11
Hebrews 11
and people say well you know yes everybody does
good things but I mean you're going to have a lifestyle
filled full of lots of fruit
well how much?
100? 101?
give me a number on it
where does the Bible say
you must have this amount of fruit
to prove you're saved
it's just referring to getting people saved
and look all of us
that are soul winners can relate to this
I mean if you're living a sinful and worldly lifestyle
you're not going to be able to get people saved
because if you have some weeks where you're not as on fire for God
you're not motivated to go soul winning
you're not motivated to serve God
but when you're getting sin out of your life
and reading the Bible and praying to God
you're motivated and filled with the Spirit
you want to do big things
but when you're kind of going both ways
you lose your motivation very quickly
is that not true?
am I the only one who sins sometimes right?
I mean it's true right?
when you have areas of your life that aren't perfect
and you know it really drains you
or chokes you out
of going all out serving God
and look none of us are perfect none of us are going to be perfect
we understand that
but here's the thing what the fruit is referring to
is getting people saved it's very clear
Hebrews 11 verse 31
By faith the harlot Rahab
perished not with them that believed not
when she had received the spies with peace
and what shall I
and by the way let me just say this with Rahab
it never says that
she repented of her sin to be saved
right?
I mean it never says well you know what to be safe
she had to quit being a harlot
no she had to believe
the choices she made
it's like those were the choices she made
she didn't have to quit that sin to be saved
okay?
and it says in verse 32
and what shall I more say for the time would
fail to tell me
the time would fail me
to tell of Gideon and of
Barak and of Samson
now think about Samson
Hebrews 11 is known as the what?
hall of faith
that's what people call it right?
it's a list of people that everybody would agree
is saved
right? it's very clear from the chapter everybody in that
chapter is saved it's being mentioned
well think about the characters that are being mentioned
Samson
well Samson did a lot of good things
what are the things that Samson is most famous for?
Samson and Delilah
right?
being with a woman he's not married to
I mean he was also with
prostitutes in the
story of him right?
he also was the last thing he ever did
you know he basically committed suicide
took the pillars and just killed himself and other people
right? there's plenty of bad things
that you see about Samson I mean
it doesn't seem like his lifestyle was all that great
I mean he's the character in the Bible
who goes on these
you know he's serving God then committing sin
serving God and committing big sins right?
but yet he's saved according to Hebrews 11
so here's the thing
if living a sinful
life means you're not saved I mean
it doesn't really get much worse than the last thing you ever
did is you killed yourself
right? so here's the thing
if that's referring to
living a sinful life then it doesn't make any sense
cause Samson was living a sinful life
and yet he was saved
right? no questioning whether or not he was saved
well that's a special case
how many special cases do we need?
right? I mean
if someone could live a sinful life back then
and be saved they can live a sinful life now
and be saved
and of Jephthah
Jephthah
what's he most famous for?
sacrificing his daughter because he made a dumb
vow?
I mean when you read the characters
when you read the chapters on Jephthah
he's not exactly the greatest cleanest
character ever either now look I have no doubt
that he did a lot of great things for God
but in terms of living a
non-worldly
life being separated from
I wouldn't mention Jephthah
in my top couple people
right? I mean when you talk about the greatest characters
of the Old Testament you're not going to name
Jephthah
if people name Samson it's cause they don't know that many characters
in the Bible and they're just like yeah that guy's Samson
and Delilah that story right?
it's like he's not exactly the cleanest
character in the Old Testament
Jephthah neither was he either
and yet this is a saved
person according to Hebrews 11
of David
also David
hmm now David did a lot of great things for God
don't misunderstand me
he also did a lot of bad things
right? specifically adultery
and murder those are two pretty
sins my friend right?
adultery and he
even though he did not physically kill
Uriah the Bible
says that he did kill Uriah you say
why? because he basically just had
him on a suicide mission as they would say
basically they put him to the front of battle
and just said well just leave him okay?
so and David's words
were so callous when he said hey
the sword killeth one as well as
another right?
and so look David committed some pretty
bad sins adultery
and murder and yet we
don't question whether David was saved you say
well David repented of a sin
okay well first off what about
the last thing he did was commit suicide
but with David if you remember and I don't want to go there
for the sake of time because I want to share what this passage is
actually talking about David said
restore to me the joy of thy salvation
he did not say restore to me
my salvation he said restore
to me the joy meaning
he had lost his joy
and his excitement to serve God
because when you live a sinful life
isn't it true that you're not excited about
serving God right?
but he didn't say restore to me my
salvation because he didn't lose his salvation
because it's once saved always saved always has been
living a sinful life
that does not mean you should question someone's salvation
go to 2 Peter 2 let me give you a couple other examples
2 Peter 2
2 Peter chapter 2
and look actually there are a lot of characters in the Bible that did a lot of bad things
and we would never need to question their salvation
because the Bible is clear they got saved
so I mean I don't know how many exceptions you need
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
I mean a million I mean
there's plenty of characters that did a lot of bad things
and yet there's no reason to question their salvation
according to the word of God
and yet they were saved
this Calvinistic idea
that well when you get saved
you're going to start to live a godly life
more godly every day
well then why is it that David
committed those big sins a long time after he was saved?
doesn't make any sense
if I was not to say that
if you get saved you're going to automatically
start serving God and loving God more
and more and more
and look if you ever listen to these Calvinist
I don't recommend you ever listening to these Calvinist
but look if you're
preparing to preach against something
you got to kind of study it sometimes
to be aware of what they teach and what they say
and if you listen to John MacArthur
and R.C. Sproul
and Paul Washer
and these famous people
they will say that the determination of whether or not
you're saved is if you love God
if you want to serve God that means you're saved
it's like
well where does it say that in the Bible?
I thought the Bible said believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
and I thought that there's lots of people
that live sinful lives that were saved
in the Bible
2 Peter 2 verse 6
and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah
into ashes condemned them with an overthrow
making them an example unto those
that after should live ungodly
and delivered just Lot
vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked
the Bible says
that Lot was a saved man
just Lot
for that righteous man dwelling
among them and when it says
just Lot it's not saying he delivered only
Lot it's saying just as in just
righteous
delivered just Lot
and it says in verse 8 for that righteous
man dwelling among them and seeing and hearing
vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their
unlawful deeds the Bible says that Lot
was a righteous man he was not righteous
in terms of the fact that he was living a godly
life though
there's none righteous no not one
and Lot certainly wasn't living a righteous
life but he was saved
and yet here's a man who offers his
daughters to these Sodomites
here's a man who even when
he's being told the city's going to be destroyed
he's kind of like arguing
with God it's like what are you doing
then he gets drunk
and then his daughters basically you know
have their way with him when he's drunk and he has kids
that's where you get the Moabites and the Ammonites
you look at the life I mean he defends
the Sodomites
if you're looking at his lifestyle
if it's salvation
based on works then Lot wasn't
saved but
salvation's not based on works
he did a lot of bad things and yet
we don't question the salvation of Lot because
I was very clearly saved
so look your works don't
determine whether or not you're saved or not
verse 5 and spare not
the old world but save Noah the 8th person
a preacher of righteousness bring in the
flood upon the world of the ungodly look
Noah was a great character in the Bible
he did a lot of great things but
we also remember him getting drunk
right so there's
another example of someone who committed
pretty bad sin and
here's the thing Noah did that
600 years
you know into his life and it's like
wait a minute if you're
supposed to be living more godly every day why is
it that he committed that sin a long time into
his life rather than like when he was a
new Christian or a new believer or whatever
right so look
it's not saying they went out from us it's not saying
they started to live a sinful life it's not saying
they quit the church it's not saying they
started to live a sinful life go back to
1 John 2
1 John 2 you say well what's it talking about
then
well here's the thing if you're trying to
figure out what a verse means
here's the easy way to figure it out
look at the context
around that verse
see people often times will
quote a verse and they'll just make it mean
whatever they want
right we've probably all been to Baptist churches
where they quote one verse and they make a sermon
out of it and sometimes you're like hey that
was a really good sermon but that is not what that verse
was talking about
right and look sometimes I agree with
what they're preaching like amen but that's
that verse is totally out of context that you're
using right and people
quote 1 John 2 19 all the time
and they never really talk about the context
because they'll say well they left the church
they must not be saved
what in the context would tell you that's
referring to church
what is it referring to
well it's not that complicated verse 19
they went out from us but they were not of us
for if they had been of us they would no doubt have continued with us
but they went out that they might be made
manifest that they were not all of us
what's that mean verse 20
but ye
so it's comparing those that went out
from us versus ye
to save people
unction from the holy one
and ye know all things
referring to having the holy spirit of God
and dwelling you and the spirit of God
is the spirit of truth and he's saying
you're not like the unsaved people because you have the
holy spirit of God dwelling
inside of you verse 21
I have not written on you because ye know not
the truth but because ye know it and that
no lie is of the truth
he's saying I'm writing to you
because you're saved
right obviously if you're going to write
the words of God you're going to write it to save people
not unsaved people
unsaved people are not likely to read the word of God
and they're not going to understand it
as an unsaved person
he's saying I'm writing to save people
so he's saying you're not like the people
that basically went out because you know the truth
they did not know the truth
you know the truth
and when you get saved you're indwelled with the spirit
of truth the holy spirit of God
and notice this phrase
at the end of verse 21
it's really important and that no lie
is of the truth
verse 22 who is a liar
but he that denyeth that Jesus is the Christ
he is anti-Christ that denyeth the father
and the son so as a saved person
you're going to realize Jesus is the only way to heaven
you're not going to deny Jesus
you're also going to realize there's a father and a son
okay
verse 23 obviously we believe in the trinity
verse 23 whosoever denyeth the son
the same hath not the father he that acknowledges
the son hath the father also
well let's jump forward
to first John chapter 5
so what's the context
well it's all about the truth
see you as a saved person
you know the truth
when it says they went out from us
those are people that did not know the truth
it's referring to the truth
so when it's saying they went out from us
what it's saying is they went out from the beliefs
okay
they went out from the truth
but you're not going to do that you say why
you know all things
you know the truth
and you know that no lie is of the truth
if you're a saved person you understand
you say but doesn't that make common sense
no lie is of the truth well it's going to make more sense
when we see the context of first John 5
first John 5 verse 10
he that believeth on the son of God
hath the witness in himself
those that believe on Jesus Christ
after the resurrection
once the Holy Spirit was given to all those
that were saved indwelling them
you get saved you get indwelled with the Spirit of God
as a saved person
if you are saved here tonight
you have the Holy Spirit of God indwelling you
okay
he that believeth not God
hath made him a liar
because he believeth not the record that God gave his son
now remember we said earlier
no lie is of the truth
and the Bible says that if you don't believe God
you're calling him a liar
and the reason why is because you don't believe the record
that God gave his son
basically what the Bible is saying is
there's two types of people
those that are calling God a liar
and those that believe God is telling the truth
telling the truth about what
verse 11
and it says and this is the record
see if people don't believe this record
they're calling God a liar
and this is the record that God hath
given to us eternal life
and this life is in his son
so there's three things mentioned here about the record
okay
the last one mentioned at the end of this verse
is life is in
his son
okay
to be saved you must believe that life
eternal life is in his son
Jesus Christ
that's what the Bible says
if someone says I think there's multiple ways to heaven
well you know what
you're not going to heaven unless you get saved
you say why?
because they're calling God a liar
the Bible says life is in his son
plus well Buddha
if you live in Thailand
plus you know Mohammed if you live in a Muslim country
plus you know Sheila
or whatever God they want to worship
if you're in India
no you must believe life is in his son
you must believe Jesus is the only way to heaven
and if you don't believe that it's because you're not saved
that's what the Bible says
you're calling God a liar
because you either believe God or you're calling him a liar
and here's the thing
us that are saved we know that no lie is of the truth
we know that Buddha is false
we know Mohammed is false
we know that Paul is false
it's not confusing to us
it's not hard for us to figure out
because we know salvation is only in Jesus Christ
and we know that's what the Bible says
we know there's not going to be another one day
we know it's not well Jesus for us
but in this part of the world it's Buddha
we know that's not true
we know that only Jesus died and paid for our sins
as a saved person you know that
you know no lie is of the truth
they think there's multiple ways to heaven oftentimes
it says
also in this verse
that God hath given to us eternal life
so God is giving us eternal life
kind of like the gift of God is eternal life
we must believe that God is giving us eternal life
we must believe it's a free gift
if someone says I believe Jesus died
and paid for my sins
he's my savior and I must get baptized to go to heaven
they're not saved
I say why?
because they don't believe God is giving them eternal life
it's a gift
what does a gift mean?
we'll uncover this
if you're saying wow you know you got to get baptized
those are your works
you must quit drinking
those are your works
you must repent of your sins
give your life to God
those are your works
that's not something that's being given to you
right?
I mean who wants me to say hey you know what I got a gift for you
it's yours
come up and take it it's free I'm going to give you this Bible
somebody actually gave this to me as a gift
and I like it
it's a nice Bible
I'm going to give it to you as a gift here tonight
but
but I need you to clean my house
I need you to make a list of all the things I need you to do
I need you to clean my house
I need you to wash my car I don't own a car
not anymore
but I need you to do all this paper
I need you to write my sermons for the next three months
it's like
oh I don't want it it's not worth it
that's not a gift
and see when God says he is giving us eternal life
it means it's a gift
it's free it's 100% free
meaning he did the work
and he paid for sin
there's nothing we have to do
look if our works got us to heaven
what would be the point of Jesus even dying for us
the whole reason why he died for us
is because our works are never going to cut
we must believe he's giving us eternal life
here's the thing if you're saved
you know that
as a saved person you know
that if another person
said you must be
baptized to go to heaven you'd be like wait a minute
no lies of the truth
that's not what the Bible says
the Bible says it's only in Jesus Christ
right? and it says
he hath given to us
eternal life
eternal
everlasting
forever
here's the thing if somebody thinks
well you get saved now
but
you got to do good works to keep your salvation
they're not saved
you say why? because they don't believe that
God's giving them eternal life
they must understand what the gift is
see there's no works to be saved
there's no works to stay saved
there's no works on either side of salvation
and once you start saying things like
well you must do this or you can't do this
it's like whoa wait a minute
you're adding works to the Gospel my friend
right? you must believe
it's a free gift it's eternal and it's only in Jesus
you must believe it's just 100% paid for
by Jesus Christ if someone doesn't
believe that they're not saved
and here's the thing as a saved person you know that no lies
of the truth see what the Bible's referring to
is people that would say
amen it's by faith alone
it's only in Jesus
you can never lose it but then
one day they went out from us
one day they completely
changed their beliefs about that
one day they leave our
church and they join that church right
over there
it's like what?
right? one day they
leave our church and they start teaching you must get
baptized and go to heaven
one day they leave our church see here's the thing
I'd question someone's salvation if they leave our church
but if they leave our church
and just change their beliefs
specifically about salvation
you better believe I'd question their salvation
right? I mean
somebody is saved now fire for God
they're going soul winning
but then all of a sudden one day they become a buzzer
they were never saved my friend
cause you can't lose your salvation
they can't be saved
and lost and here's the thing
you can't believe another way to heaven
and be saved
they were never saved
never and look as a saved person you know
that no lie is of the truth we understand this
it's very simple for us let's look at some more scriptures
here verse 12
verse 12 it says he that hath
the son hath life and he that hath not the son
of God hath not life there's two types
of people those that have the son those
that don't have the son those that have the son
believe the record those
that don't have the son do not believe the record
you're not going to see someone who has the
son but does not believe the record
doesn't work that way
if you have the son you believe the record
what is that record?
free gift eternal only in Jesus
you're not going to find
someone who does not believe those
things they say well I think there's multiple
ways to have it yet they have the son
no they don't because when you
get saved you're in dwell with the spirit
of truth my friend
and you will understand salvation
until the day you die
that's what the Bible teaches
verse 13 these things have I
written unto you that believe in the name of the son of God that you
may know that you have eternal life and that you may
believe in the name of the son of God
how can you know that you're on your way to heaven
well if you believe the record
you say why is that?
because I know that no matter
how bad I screw up my life in the future
it doesn't affect
my salvation because it's
eternal life and look that's
a great promise we have because
you know you say that to people and they'll say
well you might just go out and commit all these
wicked sins well
last I checked people that are in this room are actually
trying to live clean lives
okay
but here's the thing it's like you know
it's very comforting knowing that even if I
screw up like some of these people we mentioned
in the Bible with big sins I'm
still going to go to heaven now I'm going to be judged
here on earth but I'm still going to go to heaven
okay look I'm not saying
somebody could never be confused at all
because when you hear heretics you can get a little
bit confused but look if somebody
says I'm a hardcore Hindu and you see them
bowing down to a cow three months
after they leave our church
they were never saved my friend go to John 3
I'll show you a few other scriptures on this
John 3
now look this happens in
real life it doesn't just happen
in the Bible it happens
in real life I've experienced
this in my life of people that
you thought were on fire for God you thought
they believed the same thing and then
they just leave one day the first time I ever
experienced this was I got saved in
college which I've said I'm not
sure if I've mentioned it before but
when I got saved I told my roommate
in college the next day
I said you know what you got to talk to this
guy because he knew who this person was too I said
you got to talk to Mike he'll tell you how to get to heaven
cause I didn't know how to explain I was newly
saved I was like you got to talk to this guy
you got to talk to Mike he explained how to
get to heaven I thought I was going to heaven I was
wrong I said you got to talk to him
and so my friend talked to him the next day
and you know my roommate
got saved or so I
thought right
and at this time we had like this group of people
that were trying to serve God and doing
Bible studies and things like that and
then all of a sudden you know we do these Bible studies and
everything like that and you know what
my friend whenever he went home for the
weekend he would come back
and he would just say some really weird
things he's like yeah you know what my
dad had some good points about why you need to
get baptized to go to heaven
we're like what?
and then we show him what
the Bible said and we straighten him out
he'd go home the next week and he's like yeah my dad
showed some good points about how you got to speak
in tongues to go to heaven we're like
what? and like
every weekend he'd come back with something
now as a newly saved person I thought my
friend was just bobo
I was like what's wrong
with him right like why does he keep changing
his mind well now that I understand
more about the Bible I realized
well because he wasn't saved
right that's the reason why
cause here's the thing I didn't fluctuate back and
forth like maybe this is the way to heaven maybe this way
there's a lot of things I didn't know but I
knew salvation my friend
though he kept changing his mind all the time
well I mean years later he ended up
studying Islam and I think he's an atheist now
he actually mocks you know my
friend who's a pastor in West Virginia he's mocked
his sermons online before and everything
he's like man he's like a God hater now
I mean it certainly seems like he's a record man
he hates God but here's someone
we thought got saved
but then he completely rejected
Christianity you know what that teaches me
he wasn't saved
he said he'd rather suck ya I mean does that make you feel bad
he was your roommate at college well he was my friend
a long time ago
but he hates God now
he's not my friend
now
right I mean he obviously just never believed like we did
right he never nailed
it down I guess he always had questions about it
or whatever he never believed it
cause here's the thing if he did believe it he'd still
believe it now I mean he might
get backslidden he might become a drunk
might become a drug addict he might do
any matter of sin whatever but here's
the thing he would still believe
that Jesus is the way to heaven
right he would still believe it's a free gift
and the fact that he doesn't believe that
wasn't saved
John 3 verse 15
actually just go to
verse 18 verse 18 John 3
verse 18
he that believeth on him
is not condemned but
he that believeth not is condemned
already now why is a person who does
not believe condemned because he hath
not believed
in the name of the only begotten
son of God what does that mean he hath not believed
he never believed
he has not yet believed
the person who does not believe has
not yet believed he's never believed
you're not seeing well somebody
did believe and they stopped believing
it's saying he hath not believed
he never believed
he never believed in the name of the only begotten
son of God look if someone does
not believe now they never did believe
right look this is actually
very basic in the Bible
but a lot of people have a problem
with what the Bible teaches about this
if someone does not believe
it means that they never did believe
ok
look I understand people can get saved
and hear false doctrines and they can get a little
bit mixed up on this repentance line
and some of these things like well if you're really saved
probably not going to commit a big sin they can get mixed
up on some of those things but there's certainly
a line and when people are saying things like
wow Buddha's the way to heaven also
or you know what if you're
really saved it's just like
I'm sorry but they're not saved
ok because if they were
saved they would understand this verse 36
verse 36
it says he that
believeth on the son hath everlasting life
and he that believeth not
the son shall not see life
but the wrath of God abideth them once again
two types of people those that believe in the son and those
that do not believe and those that do not believe
have the wrath of God abiding them
well here's the thing if somebody
could be saved but
not believe God's wrath
would not abide on them because that's referring to them going
to hell so those that don't
believe they never believed it's very
clear look at verse
33 verse 33
and this is actually a very key verse
in John 3 and I think sometimes
we just don't focus on it because there's all these
famous and awesome verses John 3
verse 33
he that hath
received his testimony received the testimony
of who what testimony
do you need to receive to be saved you need to receive
the testimony of Jesus Christ right
he that hath received his testimony
hath received the testimony of Jesus Christ
hath said to his
seal that God is
true hath said to his
seal that God is true
right now here's the thing Jesus Christ
is the truth and when you get
saved you get involved with the spirit of God
you get sealed with the Holy Spirit of
Prophets go to Ephesians 1 Ephesians
chapter 1 Ephesians
1
Ephesians
chapter 1
Ephesians chapter 1 verse 13
remember it hath
said to his seal that God is
true when you get saved you get
sealed said to his seal
that God is true Ephesians 1
verse 13 in whom he
also trusted and trust is a synonym
for believing
he in whom he also trusted
after that he heard the word of
truth so you heard the gospel the
gospel of your salvation in whom
also after that he believed
you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of
Promise you receive his testimony
you believe and you're sealed
with that Holy Spirit of Promise
and so here's the thing the Bible says set to
his seal that God is true because the Holy
Spirit is the spirit of truth in Bible sex
when you get saved you get
sealed with that promise
and you've set to your seal that God is
true you will always believe
that God is true meaning you will never
call God a
liar
right isn't what we saw in 1 John
5 that those that do not believe the record
are calling God a liar well here's the thing
when you receive the testimony of the Lord you've
set to your seal your seal with the Holy
Spirit of truth that God is true
meaning you will never call
God a liar you will never
not believe the record that God gave
the son this is why
Paul questions the salvation of
the church of Galatia because of the fact
they're getting mixed up on
on these various works and saying
well if you're saved you should do these things
and it's like wait a minute what are you
saying right because
salvation is by faith alone
don't make it confusing by trying to
add stuff after salvation
okay
now look at verse 14 which
is the earnest of our inheritance until the
redemption of the purchase for possession
onto the praise of his glory
when you get saved you're sealed with the spirit of God
and here's the thing it's God's seal
that he's promised you you're
saved forever until the purchase
possession the glorified body
you'll always have the spirit of truth
that's going to show you and help you understand
what salvation is look
you can end up committing sins
and quit church and live an ungodly
life but what you cannot do
as a saved person is end up
believing in Buddha for salvation
that will not happen
here's the thing if you do
that one day and you believe Buddha
is the way to heaven you
weren't saved and here's
the thing I would not hesitate
if someone started believing
another way to heaven to say they were never saved
if
anybody in this room one day left
our church and believed in Buddha for
heaven or Muhammad I would say
they were not saved I wouldn't even
question it I wouldn't doubt it
now here's the thing it's shocking
when this happens in real life because
you don't really expect it
right you see these things
in the Bible you kind of think they would never actually
happen in real life even though the Bible is real life
okay
but I've seen this and look for those of you
that have listened to lots of sermons online there's people
that were kind of well known in the new IP
circle and then they just completely changed
their doctrine what does that mean
well when they're changing doctrine
and salvation it's proving that they were never saved
and look here's the thing
I started listening to Pastor Anderson
in 2008 I know a lot more
names than probably you guys do
people from the last like 15 years
people that they were really zealous
fired up you know preaching
at men's preaching nights and then all of a sudden they
start a YouTube channel about all these ways you
can lose your salvation
never saved
right it's reality and you
got to just and you have to realize
this will happen and look
it's going to happen at our church as our church grows
one day we'll have somebody leave our church and believe
something different and I want to give you an example of this
not from our church but
just what I'm talking about I want to show you
I'm living by what
I preach okay
because recently and I told some of you
about this about a month ago but someone
I went to college with and roomed with
for a couple years this is a different
roommate that became a heretic
okay
someone I roomed with for a couple years in college
and I went soloing with this guy like
50 times independent
fundamental Baptist
King James only
I mean anti-repentance of sins for
salvation I mean everything
there's nothing that would make me question
his beliefs at the time or whatever
and I've kind of lost touch with this person
I'm not really friends with him
anymore but you know one of my friends
you know back east
where I'm from in the United States
he messaged me this conversation they had
because apparently my friend
who became a heretic
just got baptized a couple months ago
it's like
you got baptized like 20 years ago
why did you get baptized a couple months ago
so my friend asked him you know basically
why did you get baptized
and I'm not going to read this whole conversation
but I want you to just understand what I'm
talking about here and what he said
was that he's learned a lot
of new doctrines and everything he's like walking
in this revelation was and continues
to be liberating like meaning it's
freeing me it has changed my way
of thinking and relating with God and others
in ways that only being transformed
by his spirit can
transformed by his spirit
now let me just say this that's the sort of terminology
of Pentecostal we use
I got transformed by his spirit
that's the sort of terminology
they'll say somebody was a homo but he got transformed
by the spirit of God or whatever
that's the sort of thing that they'll say
that's their terminology I got transformed
by only his spirit can
with a renewed mind and new perspective
on so many things I felt the need to be baptized
again so
my friend asked were you unsaved when you got
baptized the first time because
you're getting baptized again
it's like so you're saying you were never saved
you know when we knew you in the past and by
the way the person who got re-baptized
he remarried he got a divorce
remarried a different person and
he goes to a Pentecostal church now
okay it's not just he's talking like a Pentecostal
he goes to a Pentecostal church now
and
so my friend asked were you not baptized
or were you not saved when you got baptized the first time
he said not at all I was
born again on November 19, 2004
and was baptized in water sometime
in May 2005
so he still says he was saved back then but he felt the need
to get baptized again so
going on with this conversation
he says
Acts 19 1-6 this is my friend
that's a heretic not my old friend
that's a heretic now not my friend that's a good guy
okay he says
Acts 19 1-6 speaks of believers
who were baptized a second time after
receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit
I'm not going to go there for sake of time
I'll probably preach a sermon in the future because this is a big
Pentecostal passage those in Acts 19
were not saved they got
baptized again
because they weren't saved the first time
I mean there's people at our church that have been baptized
multiple times because
you maybe thought you were saved before
you realized you weren't and you got baptized later on
isn't that true with a lot of people at our church
right?
Acts 19 same thing they had gotten
baptized but they weren't saved so
baptism is after salvation
so they got baptized
it's not referring to people that were saved
and then all of a sudden later on
they got a second baptism which gave
them the baptism of the Holy Spirit
and in Pentecostal lingo that means you start
speaking in tongues when you get that baptism of the Holy Spirit
so
he says after receiving
the baptism of the Holy Spirit water
baptism is a picture of the death burial and resurrection
of Christ and it also represents
newness of life and obedience to him
if God asked me to be
baptized in water over and over again
I would
God doesn't ask you
to be baptized over
and over again
it's like yeah you know what I would too if God
said get baptized every day okay
right? I'll get baptized
every day he doesn't ask you to do that
though
that's a dumb statement I mean God's not asking you to do that
right?
if God asked me to get baptized every day then I would
okay?
and he says we're to die to self
daily so we're supposed to get
baptized daily?
we're to be filled with the Spirit not only daily
but moment by moment
then he says this my mind
has been made new I'm a new
creature in Christ now wait a minute
being a new creature is when you get saved
but not in
Pentecostal churches
a new creature is once you start speaking in tongues
and I have received
the baptism of the Holy Spirit
well that's certainly
Pentecostal lingo right? I've received
the baptism of the Holy Spirit
now look that's Bible terminology
but they completely take it out of context
what the Bible is referring to
when a Pentecostal says
I got the baptism of the Holy Spirit
that means they're speaking in tongues pretty much
right? and he said I've received
the baptism of the Holy Spirit
you ask what happened to me and this is it
he said he would give his Holy Spirit to them
without measure that asked him
I asked he gave and it's beautiful he's beautiful
his love for us is beyond our comprehension
it's so weird reading this
because this does not sound like my old friend
at all like
it's beautiful he's beautiful it's like
that is totally not my old friend
and it's like
literally I think there might be something else
inside of him speaking through and I'm being dead serious
now look I don't know
100% for a fact this person
is unsafe because he didn't directly say something
about salvation I hope he's just
lying about all of this because he mirrored
a Pentecostal and for whatever
reason he decided I'm just going to try to
act like a Pentecostal to make her happy
that's best case scenario
but
I don't think that's likely
the truth
what the truth is probably
they went out from us
but they were not of us
if they had been of us
they would no doubt continue with us
but they went out that they might be manifested
they were not all of us completely changed
his doctrines
I mean and look specifically
that's referring to salvation but this
is linked with salvation as we're talking about
the baptism the holy spirit and things such as this
like with the Pentecostal church
and it's because here's the thing you know what
you and our church if you leave our church
and go to some lame church you know
whatever but if you leave our church and go to a Pentecostal
church and tell me you got baptized by the holy
spirit after you left our church
I mean
and here's the thing if he is speaking in tongues
for sure he's not saved
right because that means you're possessed
by devils and that's what I
believe is actually taking place
but this is someone I roomed with for a couple years
I've gone solo with tons of
times I listen to a lot of great
preaching with him
but it seems
like he never had the holy spirit inside of him
and I'm using this as an example just because
it's fresh on my mind with someone who used to be my friend
something that really kind of surprised me
but you know honestly it didn't surprise me
as much as things in the past have
because I've just seen this in action
before this hits a little bit
close to home because this was someone I was actually close
friends with at one time
but here's the thing you will see it in your
lifetime and look make
no mistake about it if you stay at our church
eventually we'll have somebody leave
and just completely forsake
all of their beliefs when they leave our church
and believe against the truth
they'll believe completely different things
on salvation completely change
all their doctrines you say what does that mean if it happens
it means that they're not
saved not because they quit our
church not because
they're living a sinful life
but because they quit believing
the things on salvation they completely
changed their doctrines
it means that they were never saved
that's what it means is they went out
from us look and look this is
not the only reason mentioned in the Bible
that you would ever question someone's salvation
I preached through the psychopath series I talked about
comparing child of God versus child of the
devil that's too in depth to go into
but it's also in 1 John
but the bottom line is what that phrase
they went out from us what does that mean
it means that if people just leave the doctrines
on salvation
because the context of 1 John 2 was about the truth
right
when you get saved you are
sealed with the Holy Spirit of truth
you will never forsake the
beliefs on salvation and if someone
ever left our church and just
believed completely different things or let's say
they stayed in our church
they didn't go out from us
physically but they just
changed their doctrines and let's say
somebody at our church is trying to go around
and teach people that you got to get baptized
or teach people you can lose their salvation let me know
because we'll kick that person out because they're a heretic
we let unsaved people
visit our church but you know what
they're not allowed to teach different things than what we teach
and if someone comes
with us for years and then all of a sudden
they just change their beliefs and they're trying to
persuade other people at church it just means
they're a Judas that went to the inside
that's trying to cause problems at our church
and I wish this would never take place
but it does take place sometimes
sometimes you will see people that
went out from us they were never
actually with us they never actually believed like
we did they were just pretending
it deceived themselves
or whatever but they were never actually saved themselves
let's close in the word of prayer dear heavenly father
thank you for allowing us to be here today and getting to see your word
in this topic and help us to understand this idea that
when it comes to salvation
this is something that people that are saved will
always understand they will not just completely
change their beliefs into some new doctrine
help us to realize that when it
does happen at our church in the future and somebody
leaves or completely changes their
doctrine help us to understand
that that person was just never saved when they
changed their doctrine on salvation god
we pray these things in Jesus name amen
for our last song
let's turn to song number 390
song number 390
have I done me best for Jesus
I wonder have I done my best for Jesus
on the first ready
sing
I wonder
have I done my best
for Jesus
who died
upon the
coral tree
to think
of his
great sacrifice
at
Calvary
I know my
Lord expects the best
from me
how
many are the
lost that I have
lived
how many
are the
help to
free
I wonder have I
done my best for Jesus
when he
has done so much
for me
he
ours that I have wasted
are so many
we
are
spent for Christ so few
because of
all my lack of love
for Jesus
I
wonder if his heart
is breaking too
how
many are the
lost that I have
lived and
how many
are the chain I've
helped to free
I
wonder have I done my
best for Jesus
when he
has done so
much for me
I
wonder have I
cared enough for
others
or have
I let them
die alone
I
might have held the
wonder to the
Savior
the seed of
precious life I
might have sown
how
many are the lost
that I have
lived and
how many are
the chain I've
helped to free
I wonder
have I done my
best for Jesus
when
he has done
so much for me
no longer will
I stay within the
valley
I'll
climb to mountain
heights above
the
world is dying
now for one of
someone
to tell them
of the same earth's
matchless love
how many
are the lost
that I have lived
and how
many are the
chain I've helped to
free
I wonder
have I done my best
for Jesus
when he
has done
so much for me
you